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Left #godelEscherBach in the car and when i turned the page, this tiny seed was on top...

The time has come to bite into this bad boy. See y’all in a year.

#reading #readers #StoryGraph #hofstadter #godelescherbach

When I was a child, I thought the world had things that were true and things that were false, i.e., things were "black and white".

Things happened to me, including reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid" #Godel #GodelEscherBach, and I realized "Oh! There’s a gray area! (and not only that, the very edges of the gray area are fuzzy!"

And then I learned about #Bayes (and #Laplace) and realized: "Oh shit! It’s **all** gray!"

It feels like you **know** some things to be true because have assigned them such high probabilities. So high, they seem certain. Sorry. It’s not actually 1. And always remember: probability is what you **know**; reality is outside of that (just like "is your blue the same as my blue?"). Yes! Your model is good enough to navigate the world and make good decisions; but absolutely don’t confuse that with having no room left to learn.

I know I said this in a weird way, but keep growing.

When I was a child, I thought the world had things that were true and things that were false, i.e., things were "black and white".

Things happened to me, including reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid" #Godel #GodelEscherBach, and I realized "Oh! There’s a gray area! (and not only that, the very edges of the gray area are fuzzy!"

And then I learned about #Bayes (and #Laplace) and realized: "Oh shit! It’s **all** gray!"

It feels like you **know** some things to be true because have assigned them such high probabilities. So high, they seem certain. Sorry. It’s not actually 1. And always remember: probability is what you **know**; reality is outside of that (just like "is your blue the same as my blue?"). Yes! Your model is good enough to navigate the world and make good decisions; but absolutely don’t confuse that with having no room left to learn.

I know I said this in a weird way, but keep growing.

When I was a child, I thought the world had things that were true and things that were false, i.e., things were "black and white".

Things happened to me, including reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid" #Godel #GodelEscherBach, and I realized "Oh! There’s a gray area! (and not only that, the very edges of the gray area are fuzzy!"

And then I learned about #Bayes (and #Laplace) and realized: "Oh shit! It’s **all** gray!"

It feels like you **know** some things to be true because have assigned them such high probabilities. So high, they seem certain. Sorry. It’s not actually 1. And always remember: probability is what you **know**; reality is outside of that (just like "is your blue the same as my blue?"). Yes! Your model is good enough to navigate the world and make good decisions; but absolutely don’t confuse that with having no room left to learn.

I know I said this in a weird way, but keep growing.

When I was a child, I thought the world had things that were true and things that were false, i.e., things were "black and white".

Things happened to me, including reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid" #Godel #GodelEscherBach, and I realized "Oh! There’s a gray area! (and not only that, the very edges of the gray area are fuzzy!"

And then I learned about #Bayes (and #Laplace) and realized: "Oh shit! It’s **all** gray!"

It feels like you **know** some things to be true because have assigned them such high probabilities. So high, they seem certain. Sorry. It’s not actually 1. And always remember: probability is what you **know**; reality is outside of that (just like "is your blue the same as my blue?"). Yes! Your model is good enough to navigate the world and make good decisions; but absolutely don’t confuse that with having no room left to learn.

I know I said this in a weird way, but keep growing.

Wenn man des Esel nennt, kommt er gerennt.

#OutOfContext #GödelEscherBach

„Ich frausehe es ein“, frauantwortet die Frau und fraugeht von dannen ...
#OutOfContext #GödelEscherBach

"Meta-Meta-Meta-Jōshū ist ein Satz von TNT"

#OutOfContext #GödelEscherBach

"Herr Krebs könnte behaupten, sein Kühlschrank sein ein „vollkommener“ Plattenspieler."

#OutOfContext #GödelEscherBach

I'm looking back at TNT (Typographical Number Theory) from Gödel Escher Bach, and I'm trying to sketch some simple proofs I could write in this system. And I'm stuck, because I have no way to get from "this thing exists" to "here's this thing, now what can I do with it?"

I'm trying to prove that every number is greater than or equal to all its positive divisors - e.g. An:Aa:<Eb:(a*Sb)=n -> Ec:(c+a)=n>.

I can generalize from a universal quantifier, but I can't do something similar for the existential quantifier. I'm stuck on how to proceed.

#numbertheory #TNT #GodelEscherBach #math #logic

There are two types of people...
Those who are dominated by interests in math, music, and art.
And those who are not.
#GodelEscherBach

Started reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach", and couldn't resist a quick and easy reproduction of the cover. Boolean modifiers made this cake.

#Blender #Blender3d #3DArt #GödelEscherBach

Has anyone read both ‘GEB’ and ‘I am a strange loop’ by Hofstadter?

Should I really read GEB first?

#Hofstadter #godelescherbach #iamastrangeloop

https://mastodon.social/users/alatitude77/statuses/100322535956471172
I couldn't agree more! While I acknowledge the brilliance of some ideas in Douglas #Hofstadter's Gödel Escher Bach, I can't help but feel that the hype around it is a bit excessive. The book aims to unite math, #CognitiveScience, and art through the concept of recursion, in a recursive style, but I find it verbose with some hand-waving about Zen and music theory. Personally, I prefer a more straightforward approach, like "Metamagical Themas," where Hofstadter shares his reflections on self-reference and #GödelsTheorem without unnecessary stylistic effects. #bookstodon #GödelEscherBach @alatitude77

https://youtu.be/R6e08RnJyxo
Interesting (& rather alarming) interview with Doug Hofstadter, author of #GodelEscherBach about #AI. If he's worried, I'm worried.
#ArtificialIntelligence, #ChatGPT

For those who have created prompts to write/answer in the style of someone, an author’s on the mark rebuttal that goes beyond the “get off of my lawn” level. #GödelEscherBach #AI https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/godel-escher-bach-geb-ai/674589/

@Mathemagician @McPatrick
Tried to learn algebra on Khan Academy a few years ago and made a little progress, but my plate got really full. I'm also trying learn Spanish, get a blog, learn more about philosophy read a few important books and listen as much great music as possible. The clock is running out!

I'm hoping I'm at least smart enough to understand most of #GodelEscherBach. That's one of the books on my list.

@ErikJonker ook tegen boerenacties? Zou een recursieve actie zijn. Gedurfd. #gödelescherbach

@henryseg There are also more extreme examples of this, such as a digital sundial which has a different shadow every 20 minutes as the sun arcs across the sky.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1068443
https://www.digitalsundial.com/background.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_sundial
#sundial #math #fractal #3dPrinting #GödelEscherBach

Numbers are strange.

(I'm reading #GödelEscherBach, BTW. 😉)

From reading #GödelEscherBach and its recursive chapter, through being a bit stumped a bit by the way the shown graphs are constructed, now all the way down considering an attempt to a custom #graphviz layout engine to replicate the tree layout from the book so I can actually "see" things better as I couldn't find a tool that does it like that (yet) https://graphviz.org/docs/layouts/writing-layout-plugins/ #RabbitHole

I really should be focusing on the actual problem here, rather than being nerd sniped, but there you go I-mode

I'm barely a few chapters into #GödelEscherBach and I already find myself applying " quote marks a lot more often to words, where I suddenly realise how we might be mixing up meanings of the same expressions in different systems. I guess that will make me that annoying co-worker until I work through this properly...

OK. I did it and bought the English original of #GödelEscherBach. It's surprisingly easy to read (and hopefully understand 😀). During the ≈30 years since I got the German translation I learned some additional English, it seems. 😄

The 23-page preface added some interesting additional context. – And I do wonder what the additional 20 years since the 20th anniversary edition have brought us. 😃

Getting a bit philosophical while rereading a translation of ‘Gödel, Escher, Bach’, wondering how much information got lost due to the translation – and which parts of it. If any…

And how much would still be lost, even if I read the English original (given that I’m not a native English speaker).

#GödelEscherBach

Decided on the book to read over the holidays: 'Gödel, Esche, Bach'. Douglas R. Hofstadter. Klett Kotta. 6. printing. 1985.

Nineteenhundreteightyfive – that's why it's the German translation. 🙂

Wanted to read the English ebook edition, but the preview was disappointing (to say the least) and the reviews complained about it being a badly scanned and OCRed version. 🤷‍♂️

#GödelEscherBach

One important lesson of (nearly) every #AdventOfCode puzzle: It's not as simple as it looks at the beginning.

It's a lesson to be remembered for work…: Most people underestimate the effort, even when they take this into account. See #HofstadtersLaw ➙ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law

#GödelEscherBach #Hofstadter

Somebody should make an #eBook #eReader case that (optionally) shows the cover of the book being read.

It would mean that people can strike up conversations in public spaces about the books they are reading.

How do the #geek kids show their friends that they are cool enough to be reading #GodelEscherBach or #TheDragonBook in #school nowadays?

#eBooks #Amazon #Kobo #Kindle #AmazonKindle #SocialMedia