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(This is the promised English thread)
Here it is - the final (if kinda ugly, I'm no good at design) version of the #EffectivePaxRailNet Polish Lands 1939 map!

I drew it on paper and then digitized it with Inkscape, styling the lines with color and thickness to indicate the longest gaps between trains on the given sections. The dashed-not-dotted (slightly thicker) lines are generally ones with 6~6.5 pairs where my notes didn't clearly indicate the gaps were all smaller than 4h.

I used modern, or at least as modern as possible, Polish names everywhere (except for Kaliningrad Oblast, that place is complicated).

(And yeaaah, I really need to find somewhere I can host these things on a more permanent basis, especially including the original SVG - you can barely see the smallest captions due to Mastodon image size limits)

(Post with rules I apply here: https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/114558906905813832)

(I'd like to note that as I only looked at timetables of individual lines, you can't exactly judge the "effectiveness" of junction stations with this map, researching timed transfers is a whole 'nother thing)

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(This thread is dedicated to @partim @tml and @jon (the former to for sparking the bout of inspiration that led to me actually doing this and the latter, because without him I wouldn't have been here to interact with the former two)

#rail #pkp #DeutscheReichsbahn #bahnbubble #trainbubble #history

W istocie, mapa tras wyższej kategorii zawiera jedną, i to rzutem na taśmę - Niemieckie ekspresy między Wrocławiem a Kędzierzynem. Sieć długodystansowa była w dużej mierze nocna i sezonowa, a w PKP pociągów pospiesznych w ogóle było parę na krzyż

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#EffectivePaxRailNet

Rzucając okiem, możecie się zastanawiać "A dlaczego jest tyle miejsc, gdzie boczne linie są takie grubsze od głównych?" - należy pamiętać, że wszystkie kreski na tej mapie to pociągi osobowe. Pociągów przyspieszonych i ekspresowych było bardzo mało jak na dzisiejsze standardy… Ale całkiem skutecznie, wraz z towarami, blokowały szlaki. Podejrzewam, że wraz z ogólnie jeszcze słabszym ruchem pasażerskim tworzyło to coś porównywalnego dzisiaj do efektu Ouigo.

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(English thread to come later)
Szukałem dobrego czasu, żeby to zapostować, ale życie jest życiem i w sumie zawsze mogę dokonać autopodbicia w nadziei, że więcej ludzi zobaczy. Oto i jest - ostateczna (choć może trochę brzydka, nie mam ręki do designu) wersja mapy #EffectivePaxRailNet Ziemie Polskie 1939!

Zgodnie z założeniem, dodałem kolejny wymiar do mapki, którą pokazałem wcześniej, pokazując kolorem i grubością kreski jak mniej-więcej przedstawiały się najdłuższe odstępy między pociągami na danych odcinkach. Przerywaną nie kropkowaną (lekko grubszą) linią są zaznaczone generalnie linie mające minimalne 6~6,5 pary, gdzie nie zanotowałem wyraźnie, że są poniżej 4h.

Wszędzie są zastosowane nazwy dzisiejsze, a przynajmniej tak dzisiejsze jak się da (no, oprócz odniesień do obwodu królewieckiego, to jest skomplikowane)

(I kurczę, naprawdę muszę sobie znaleźć jakieś miejsce do bardziej permanentnego postowania takich rzeczy, szczególnie z SVG - maksymalne limity rozmiaru zdjęcia na Mastodonie powodują, że małe napisy ledwo widać… No cóż, mam za swoje)

(Post z zasadami, którymi się kieruję - może powinienem to zapostować osobno, odpowiedzi niestety nie pokazują się po wybraniu hashtaga pod Wyróżnione, więc brakuje bardzo ważnego kawałka całego przedsięwzięcia(EDIT: Jednak pokazuje odpowiedzi, po prostu to nie jest zahashtagowane i jeszcze pod CW): https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/114558906905813832)

(Chciałbym też zaznaczyć, że patrzyłem tylko na rozkłady pojedynczych linii - to, jak wyglądało skomunikowanie pociągów na stacjach to zupełnie osobny temat)

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cc @kolej

#kolej #pkp #DeutscheReichsbahn #historia

Pretty close now, only got behind on a couple things I perhaps should've done today 😅

Even found in my notes a couple lines I missed while sketching on paper

#EffectivePaxRailNet

I've been here for almost a year and I feel at home, it's time for an updated #introduction. (Po polsku poniżej)

Professionally interested in IT, personally in public transport, particularly railways these days, and a bunch of other things you won't hear from me about here :)

Being here inspired me to explore railway timetables (#EffectivePaxRailNet) and the art of the #Kursbuch. You may also have heard of me through the story of #Mevo or the news about Polish rail I post in English. I encourage you to have a look at the Featured tab and pinned posts, it's the surest way to find my original content

Security and privacy build on each other, which is why I try to keep this account topical and don't write travel reports ;)

Old intro/Stare intro: https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/113148980869674762

Po polsku:
Jestem tu od prawie roku i czuję się jak w domu, czas przedstawić się jeszcze raz.

Interesuję się zawodowo informatyką, a osobiście transportem publicznym, ostatnio szczególnie pociągami, a także masą innych rzeczy, o których tu nie przeczytacie :)

Przebywanie tutaj zainspirowało mnie do głębszego przeglądania rozkładów jazdy (#EffectivePaxRailNet) i obserwacji sztuki projektowania i redakcji "cegieł" SRJP. Mogliście dowiedzieć się o mnie dzięki wątkowi o historii #Mevo, bądź z niusów o zmianach na kolei w Polsce, które podaję dalej (raczej) po angielsku. Zachęcam do spojrzenia na kartę Wyróżnione i przypięte wpisy, tak najłatwiej dobić się do mojego oryginalnego kontentu, że tak powiem

Bezpieczeństwo i prywatność opierają się na sobie nawzajem, więc staram się utrzymać to konto w pewnej konkretnej niszy tematycznej i nie publikuję sprawozdań ze swoich podróży ;)

Zbieranie danych do #EffectivePaxRailNet Polska 1966 trwa...

Okręg I (południowe Mazowsze, Podkarpacie, Małopolska, GOP, ROW) pozytywnie, wyraźnie większe pokrycie przynajmniej "pół-sensownymi jak na dziesiejsze standardy" ilościami połączeń…

I docieram do Dolnego Śląska... totalna jatka, połowa linii, które widnieją na mapie 1939 wylatuje. Nawet Wrocław-Kłodzko (ale już Kłodzko-Wałbrzych i Kłodzko-Kudowa załapały się).

(EDIT: Spojrzałem drugi raz jednak odcinek przez Bardo też nie)

...Obcowanie z historią swojego tematu to dobra i ważna sprawa

#kolej #pkp

Drawing is now also progressing faster - here's a sneak peek at the final version of Warsaw (First Takts in Polish history 💚)

#EffectivePaxRailNet #PKP #kolej

Summing up we get roughly 25.67% (6596/25691) km and 25.66% (1257/4899) stations/halts (…that evened out oddly), on workdays 28.11% (7223) km and 28.45% (1394) stations.

Total density ~5.24 km per station, also on the 'effective' network.

And fun fact - if I haven't messed up my count big time, PKP had more of the kilometers of passenger lines, but DR (and local Kleinbahnen) had more of the stations/halts, but that's probbly not very surprising, is it.

#EffectivePaxRailNet

As a reminder - the DR area numbers were 41.03% (4956.7/12079.8) km and 33.66% (870/2585) stations good, 43.45% (5248.9) km and 36.71% (949) st. on workdays.

That's a total network density of one station per 4.67 km, though on the 'effective' network it's only 5.7 km

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#EffectivePaxRailNet Polish Lands 1939 final totals for the #PKP area (so, the parts of today's Poland that were part of Poland or the Free City of Danzig at the time): 12.04% (1639/13611) km and 16.72% (387/2314) stations "good", 14.50% (1974) km and 19.23% (445) stations on workdays, a bit more on school days.

On average one halt per 5.88 km of track (but note that this was calculated using distances from the timetable, which are rounded to whole kilometers - also it would probably be more if Kresy were included :P)

These are numbers so bad, I think not even what was at the time German Hinterpommern was quite that bad, if close.

#kolej

Żużel? https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBu%C5%BCel_(wie%C5%9B)

(Jakby ktoś się zastanawiał, czy porzuciłem #EffectivePaxRailNet - nie, nie porzuciłem, właśnie zagłuszam tym lęki)

#EffectivePaxRailNet PL1939: Still embellishing the map and tallying the numbers for the PKP area (Poland and Free City) and yeaaaaah, those are not good - so far oscillating around 6% kilometers and 11% stops (where on the DR side this never dropped below 18-ish on both counts)

#pkp

Widać zabo… Hmm, trochę nie tak.

(consider this still a preview, still missing details - wersja poglądowa, wciąż brak szczegółów)

#EffectivePaxRailNet #PKP

@jon Despite the border crossing required, the timetable was… par for the times and region to slightly better when it came to local connections? (you'll see what I mean when I'm done drawing my #EffectivePaxRailNet survey of Poland 1939) The 1935 timetable was nice enough to provide separate rows in Halmei showing the same dep/arr time to make it easier to account for the time change when scanning the table.
Then Hungary's Zakarpattya grab seemingly cut-off Sighetu harder, with no sign of cross-border service (unless that was just poor or even deliberately vague formatting, who knows?).

Indeed, it's in Hungarian wartime timetables that the first signs of a connection from Salva show up, with a line Telciu, and further mentions of an unopened Telciu-Moisei narrow-gauge line. It showed up with one pair in 1947 already (while Ilva and Vatra were still separated), but it was timed so comically poorly that you had to spend a night near Moisei to actually get anywhere… Like this:
arr from Telciu 11:57
dep to Sighet 2:26
arr from Sighet 20:03
dep to Telciu 14:00
(yes, those were the only trains)

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the service was suspended and then reappears by 1952 on the current route via Iza as part of a table reaching out to Cluj, with a whopping two pairs of mixed trains crossing the mountains running through between Salva and Sighet - one by night, one by day - each arriving an hour or two *after* the departure of a train to Câmpulung pe Tisa :) (At least the connection was maintained in the other direction)

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Current #EffectivePaxRailNet PL1939 drawing status: Why do I insist on messing with Bézier curves. And colors. I'm not a designer and have a poor sense of scale, it will all look terrible whatever I do.

Yet, something compels me.

And right off the bat, this narrow-gauge Piotrków-Sulejów line (https://www.bazakolejowa.pl/index.php?dzial=linie&id=1127&okno=start), with table number 101, made it in, despite having had pretty much only seasonal service under the II RP (somehow), a Piotrków station inexplicable located two kilometers away from the mainline station, while being located on the mainline, and doing 17 km in 47 minutes at best. An interesting bit of history is that after it was shut down in 1986, it was apparently briefly reactivated in February 1989 due to… a bus strike

#EffectivePaxRailNet #PKP #timetable #PRL

One thing is that on a number of sections so far, I've encountered what I can only assume is 60s PKP's answer to the French timetable - characterized by:
- Significant afternoon bias
- No fast trains in the morning, or only one - all the fast long-distance trains (note: for a certain definition of fast, there weren't any lines fast by modern standards yet iirc) are in the evening or night trains
- In fact, probably no trains around 10~12, or even earlier
- Yet they still stay on the right side of my criteria by pushing 4~5 pairs in the afternoon
- Then there may be no train in the late evening, but not to worry! Odds are you'd only have to wait until 1 or 2 (AM)

#EffectivePaxRailNet #PKP #timetable #PRL

So, I'm not even done with 1939 yet, but I'm already gathering #EffectivePaxRailNet info from another timetable. This time, it's going to be Poland in September 1966 (because this timetable's scans in Baza Kolejowa's library are excellent quality - many thanks to the administrators and ksiezyc_nad_gieesem, whoever they are, for providing one of the best #Kursbuch archives around - though it covers only Poland up to 2000 and 2005-2011, it actually has pretty much every PKP timetable within these bounds, in better or worse quality, and this wouldn't have been possible without it).

Expect to be hearing a lot about the wtfs I'm finding in it, it's fun

#EffectivePaxRailNet drawing update: second draft complete, significantly more reasonable than the first, now to scan it in, scale up and trace with multi-colored lines to distinguish lines barely meeting the qualification from the really good ones. Probably not the best process, but I feel like I'm better at drawing on paper than with a digital canvas

Data gathering done, final numbers for the DR area are 41.03% (4956.7/12079.8) km and 33.66% (870/2585) stations good, 43.45% (5248.9) km and 36.71% (949) st. on workdays.

Now for the drawing - the hard, though hopefully also shorter, part (has it really been over a month?).

Also, weird hours-long gaps on the bridge in Görlitz/Zgorzelec (then united), considering you would expect freight to go via Bielawa Dolna.

#EffectivePaxRailNet #DeutscheReichsbahn

OK, so the numbers do get better in Silesia - between table 119 and table 122 growth from 28.24% to 32.67% in kilometers and from 21.92% to 25.06% in stations

#EffectivePaxRailNet #DeutscheReichsbahn

And of course even with these rules I hit interesting edge cases, like Bartoszyce (Bartenstein) - Korsze (Korschen), which actually met the 6 trains bar in the Korsze direction, but the 4x4h bar in the Bartoszyce direction (incl. one pair skipping Studzieniec (Wormen)) - without meeting the other hurdle in either case.

EDIT: Oh, wait, it didn't actually, one gap was 4h22m, that's too much even with the flexibility I'm applying

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