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(This is the promised English thread)
Here it is - the final (if kinda ugly, I'm no good at design) version of the #EffectivePaxRailNet Polish Lands 1939 map!I drew it on paper and then digitized it with Inkscape, styling the lines with color and thickness to indicate the longest gaps between trains on the given sections. The dashed-not-dotted (slightly thicker) lines are generally ones with 6~6.5 pairs where my notes didn't clearly indicate the gaps were all smaller than 4h.
I used modern, or at least as modern as possible, Polish names everywhere (except for Kaliningrad Oblast, that place is complicated).
(And yeaaah, I really need to find somewhere I can host these things on a more permanent basis, especially including the original SVG - you can barely see the smallest captions due to Mastodon image size limits)
(Post with rules I apply here: https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/114558906905813832)
(I'd like to note that as I only looked at timetables of individual lines, you can't exactly judge the "effectiveness" of junction stations with this map, researching timed transfers is a whole 'nother thing)
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(This thread is dedicated to @partim @tml and @jon (the former to for sparking the bout of inspiration that led to me actually doing this and the latter, because without him I wouldn't have been here to interact with the former two)
#rail #pkp #DeutscheReichsbahn #bahnbubble #trainbubble #history
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(English thread to come later)
Szukałem dobrego czasu, żeby to zapostować, ale życie jest życiem i w sumie zawsze mogę dokonać autopodbicia w nadziei, że więcej ludzi zobaczy. Oto i jest - ostateczna (choć może trochę brzydka, nie mam ręki do designu) wersja mapy #EffectivePaxRailNet Ziemie Polskie 1939!Zgodnie z założeniem, dodałem kolejny wymiar do mapki, którą pokazałem wcześniej, pokazując kolorem i grubością kreski jak mniej-więcej przedstawiały się najdłuższe odstępy między pociągami na danych odcinkach. Przerywaną nie kropkowaną (lekko grubszą) linią są zaznaczone generalnie linie mające minimalne 6~6,5 pary, gdzie nie zanotowałem wyraźnie, że są poniżej 4h.
Wszędzie są zastosowane nazwy dzisiejsze, a przynajmniej tak dzisiejsze jak się da (no, oprócz odniesień do obwodu królewieckiego, to jest skomplikowane)
(I kurczę, naprawdę muszę sobie znaleźć jakieś miejsce do bardziej permanentnego postowania takich rzeczy, szczególnie z SVG - maksymalne limity rozmiaru zdjęcia na Mastodonie powodują, że małe napisy ledwo widać… No cóż, mam za swoje)
(Post z zasadami, którymi się kieruję - może powinienem to zapostować osobno, odpowiedzi niestety nie pokazują się po wybraniu hashtaga pod Wyróżnione, więc brakuje bardzo ważnego kawałka całego przedsięwzięcia(EDIT: Jednak pokazuje odpowiedzi, po prostu to nie jest zahashtagowane i jeszcze pod CW): https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/114558906905813832)
(Chciałbym też zaznaczyć, że patrzyłem tylko na rozkłady pojedynczych linii - to, jak wyglądało skomunikowanie pociągów na stacjach to zupełnie osobny temat)
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cc @kolej
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I've been here for almost a year and I feel at home, it's time for an updated #introduction. (Po polsku poniżej)
Professionally interested in IT, personally in public transport, particularly railways these days, and a bunch of other things you won't hear from me about here :)
Being here inspired me to explore railway timetables (#EffectivePaxRailNet) and the art of the #Kursbuch. You may also have heard of me through the story of #Mevo or the news about Polish rail I post in English. I encourage you to have a look at the Featured tab and pinned posts, it's the surest way to find my original content
Security and privacy build on each other, which is why I try to keep this account topical and don't write travel reports ;)
Old intro/Stare intro: https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/113148980869674762
Po polsku:
Jestem tu od prawie roku i czuję się jak w domu, czas przedstawić się jeszcze raz.Interesuję się zawodowo informatyką, a osobiście transportem publicznym, ostatnio szczególnie pociągami, a także masą innych rzeczy, o których tu nie przeczytacie :)
Przebywanie tutaj zainspirowało mnie do głębszego przeglądania rozkładów jazdy (#EffectivePaxRailNet) i obserwacji sztuki projektowania i redakcji "cegieł" SRJP. Mogliście dowiedzieć się o mnie dzięki wątkowi o historii #Mevo, bądź z niusów o zmianach na kolei w Polsce, które podaję dalej (raczej) po angielsku. Zachęcam do spojrzenia na kartę Wyróżnione i przypięte wpisy, tak najłatwiej dobić się do mojego oryginalnego kontentu, że tak powiem
Bezpieczeństwo i prywatność opierają się na sobie nawzajem, więc staram się utrzymać to konto w pewnej konkretnej niszy tematycznej i nie publikuję sprawozdań ze swoich podróży ;)
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And right off the bat, this narrow-gauge Piotrków-Sulejów line (https://www.bazakolejowa.pl/index.php?dzial=linie&id=1127&okno=start), with table number 101, made it in, despite having had pretty much only seasonal service under the II RP (somehow), a Piotrków station inexplicable located two kilometers away from the mainline station, while being located on the mainline, and doing 17 km in 47 minutes at best. An interesting bit of history is that after it was shut down in 1986, it was apparently briefly reactivated in February 1989 due to… a bus strike
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One thing is that on a number of sections so far, I've encountered what I can only assume is 60s PKP's answer to the French timetable - characterized by:
- Significant afternoon bias
- No fast trains in the morning, or only one - all the fast long-distance trains (note: for a certain definition of fast, there weren't any lines fast by modern standards yet iirc) are in the evening or night trains
- In fact, probably no trains around 10~12, or even earlier
- Yet they still stay on the right side of my criteria by pushing 4~5 pairs in the afternoon
- Then there may be no train in the late evening, but not to worry! Odds are you'd only have to wait until 1 or 2 (AM) -
So, I'm not even done with 1939 yet, but I'm already gathering #EffectivePaxRailNet info from another timetable. This time, it's going to be Poland in September 1966 (because this timetable's scans in Baza Kolejowa's library are excellent quality - many thanks to the administrators and ksiezyc_nad_gieesem, whoever they are, for providing one of the best #Kursbuch archives around - though it covers only Poland up to 2000 and 2005-2011, it actually has pretty much every PKP timetable within these bounds, in better or worse quality, and this wouldn't have been possible without it).
Expect to be hearing a lot about the wtfs I'm finding in it, it's fun
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Data gathering done, final numbers for the DR area are 41.03% (4956.7/12079.8) km and 33.66% (870/2585) stations good, 43.45% (5248.9) km and 36.71% (949) st. on workdays.
Now for the drawing - the hard, though hopefully also shorter, part (has it really been over a month?).
Also, weird hours-long gaps on the bridge in Görlitz/Zgorzelec (then united), considering you would expect freight to go via Bielawa Dolna.
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CW: #EffectivePaxRailNet preview, going on about numbers
Update for those who aren't tired of watching numbers creeping towards 50%, with the 124 block done and pretty much conpletely "good" (Wrocław-Jelenia Góra and branches into the Karkonosze, much of it electrified by the Germans only for the Russians to take it all away as "reparations") we have 35.29% in kilometers and 29.52% in stations, and 125 (Rudna Gwizdanów-Legnica-Kamieniec Ząb.) will be included whole, pushing those numbers up yet. In fact the kilometer figure is about to break double the 1641 km I recorded for the parts of Poland's current territory then under PKP (so Poland and Danzig)
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OK, so the numbers do get better in Silesia - between table 119 and table 122 growth from 28.24% to 32.67% in kilometers and from 21.92% to 25.06% in stations
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CW: Long post, #EffectivePaxRailNet preview
@partim @tml So, I've decided to try my hand at something like this, and while I'm still gathering data, I think I have a mildly interesting preview for... (deep breath) Effective Passenger Rail Network - Polish Lands* May 1939, or #EffectivePaxRailNet for hashtaggability.
Digging through old timetables like this is a fairly labor-intensive process, so I've tried to keep the rules fairly simple - I'll put the rules in a reply.
Anyway, the preview is numbers... well, charts of numbers - I've been tallying the line length and number of stations for the then-German part of today's Poland (I've already done the Polish parts, but it was only afterwards that the idea of reserving some space on the page - yes I'm doing it on paper - for tallying as I go came to me) and so far I'm somewhere around Olsztyn - table 118m. You can see that things look fine and dandy around Szczecin and then sharply drop until some ~18% after the 113 series of tables with Pomeranian _Kleinbahnen_, recovering slowly, but staying under 30% in both categories for now - I imagine Silesia should be better again. Note that the bars show percentages of _the total numbers as of that point_, not each batch separately.**
Notes:
(* By "Polish Lands" I mean an ahistorical application of Poland's present borders to the past - it's a direct translation of "ziemie polskie", a usage you may find in some Polish literature)
(** I hope this paragraph is appropriate as alt text)