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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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Let's get this straight: anything created with "AI" is #slop.
It doesn't have to be vibe-coded. It doesn't have to be horrible code. It doesn't matter that you've spent hours perfecting the prompt. It doesn't matter that ten people have spent a week reviewing it in detail.
As long as an "AI" took part in writing it, it's slop. It's an unethical technology, and anything created with it is tainted. It's an inhuman technology, and you're supporting it. You're being disrespectful to your users and contributors. You're putting your own convenience over humanity. You're aiding the worst murderous assholes in the history of humanity. And what's perhaps worst, you quite likely believe that you are making a net positive contribution, that you're helping people, while you're actually disrespecting and harming them.
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Let's get this straight: anything created with "AI" is #slop.
It doesn't have to be vibe-coded. It doesn't have to be horrible code. It doesn't matter that you've spent hours perfecting the prompt. It doesn't matter that ten people have spent a week reviewing it in detail.
As long as an "AI" took part in writing it, it's slop. It's an unethical technology, and anything created with it is tainted. It's an inhuman technology, and you're supporting it. You're being disrespectful to your users and contributors. You're putting your own convenience over humanity. You're aiding the worst murderous assholes in the history of humanity. And what's perhaps worst, you quite likely believe that you are making a net positive contribution, that you're helping people, while you're actually disrespecting and harming them.
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Thank you so much for this super insighful essay! Frightening in many ways, but it also gives me hope, since it at least lets me understand how it happens that madness gets a grip on an organisation.
Very wise words at the end about how to survive in an institution caught by the mania.
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Thank you so much for this super insighful essay! Frightening in many ways, but it also gives me hope, since it at least lets me understand how it happens that madness gets a grip on an organisation.
Very wise words at the end about how to survive in an institution caught by the mania.
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Thank you so much for this super insighful essay! Frightening in many ways, but it also gives me hope, since it at least lets me understand how it happens that madness gets a grip on an organisation.
Very wise words at the end about how to survive in an institution caught by the mania.
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Thank you so much for this super insighful essay! Frightening in many ways, but it also gives me hope, since it at least lets me understand how it happens that madness gets a grip on an organisation.
Very wise words at the end about how to survive in an institution caught by the mania.
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Thank you so much for this super insighful essay! Frightening in many ways, but it also gives me hope, since it at least lets me understand how it happens that madness gets a grip on an organisation.
Very wise words at the end about how to survive in an institution caught by the mania.
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<< What started as a few people [...] being caught up in hype has now resulted in an environment where leaders cannot speak honestly about their beliefs on how best to guide organisations, for fear of being removed [...]. This means that the least sensible recommendations are going totally unchallenged, resulting in employees being evaluated on totally gameable metrics such as “money spent on AI”, and those employees must play along to avoid being terminated. >>
Thank you for the link! An exceptiomally insightful, if frightening, report by @ludicity on the mechanisms through which AI mania spreads.
In my own work in a university context, I see glimpses of the same mechanisms, thankfully a little less extreme. We haven't reached the token-count yet, nor the firing-the-sceptic stage, but no doubt those will come to us too. We certainly have otherwise sensible colleagues ruthlessly pushing "AI innovations" because it buys them promotion.
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<< What started as a few people [...] being caught up in hype has now resulted in an environment where leaders cannot speak honestly about their beliefs on how best to guide organisations, for fear of being removed [...]. This means that the least sensible recommendations are going totally unchallenged, resulting in employees being evaluated on totally gameable metrics such as “money spent on AI”, and those employees must play along to avoid being terminated. >>
Thank you for the link! An exceptiomally insightful, if frightening, report by @ludicity on the mechanisms through which AI mania spreads.
In my own work in a university context, I see glimpses of the same mechanisms, thankfully a little less extreme. We haven't reached the token-count yet, nor the firing-the-sceptic stage, but no doubt those will come to us too. We certainly have otherwise sensible colleagues ruthlessly pushing "AI innovations" because it buys them promotion.
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<< What started as a few people [...] being caught up in hype has now resulted in an environment where leaders cannot speak honestly about their beliefs on how best to guide organisations, for fear of being removed [...]. This means that the least sensible recommendations are going totally unchallenged, resulting in employees being evaluated on totally gameable metrics such as “money spent on AI”, and those employees must play along to avoid being terminated. >>
Thank you for the link! An exceptiomally insightful, if frightening, report by @ludicity on the mechanisms through which AI mania spreads.
In my own work in a university context, I see glimpses of the same mechanisms, thankfully a little less extreme. We haven't reached the token-count yet, nor the firing-the-sceptic stage, but no doubt those will come to us too. We certainly have otherwise sensible colleagues ruthlessly pushing "AI innovations" because it buys them promotion.
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<< What started as a few people [...] being caught up in hype has now resulted in an environment where leaders cannot speak honestly about their beliefs on how best to guide organisations, for fear of being removed [...]. This means that the least sensible recommendations are going totally unchallenged, resulting in employees being evaluated on totally gameable metrics such as “money spent on AI”, and those employees must play along to avoid being terminated. >>
Thank you for the link! An exceptiomally insightful, if frightening, report by @ludicity on the mechanisms through which AI mania spreads.
In my own work in a university context, I see glimpses of the same mechanisms, thankfully a little less extreme. We haven't reached the token-count yet, nor the firing-the-sceptic stage, but no doubt those will come to us too. We certainly have otherwise sensible colleagues ruthlessly pushing "AI innovations" because it buys them promotion.
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<< What started as a few people [...] being caught up in hype has now resulted in an environment where leaders cannot speak honestly about their beliefs on how best to guide organisations, for fear of being removed [...]. This means that the least sensible recommendations are going totally unchallenged, resulting in employees being evaluated on totally gameable metrics such as “money spent on AI”, and those employees must play along to avoid being terminated. >>
Thank you for the link! An exceptiomally insightful, if frightening, report by @ludicity on the mechanisms through which AI mania spreads.
In my own work in a university context, I see glimpses of the same mechanisms, thankfully a little less extreme. We haven't reached the token-count yet, nor the firing-the-sceptic stage, but no doubt those will come to us too. We certainly have otherwise sensible colleagues ruthlessly pushing "AI innovations" because it buys them promotion.
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《 Fable in particular is known to have baffling gibberish intermediate messages, and in general if any of the intermediate "thinking" text was visible it would make it abundantly clear that the only reason these things appear to work is by sheer brute force, just keep generating text until something seems plausible. 》
Oh, lovely. This example shows us in archetypical form the original sin of genAI, doesn't it. Brute force being used to hide the absence of substantive alignment. Highly instructive (and entertaining), as is your entire thread.
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《 Fable in particular is known to have baffling gibberish intermediate messages, and in general if any of the intermediate "thinking" text was visible it would make it abundantly clear that the only reason these things appear to work is by sheer brute force, just keep generating text until something seems plausible. 》
Oh, lovely. This example shows us in archetypical form the original sin of genAI, doesn't it. Brute force being used to hide the absence of substantive alignment. Highly instructive (and entertaining), as is your entire thread.
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《 Fable in particular is known to have baffling gibberish intermediate messages, and in general if any of the intermediate "thinking" text was visible it would make it abundantly clear that the only reason these things appear to work is by sheer brute force, just keep generating text until something seems plausible. 》
Oh, lovely. This example shows us in archetypical form the original sin of genAI, doesn't it. Brute force being used to hide the absence of substantive alignment. Highly instructive (and entertaining), as is your entire thread.
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《 Fable in particular is known to have baffling gibberish intermediate messages, and in general if any of the intermediate "thinking" text was visible it would make it abundantly clear that the only reason these things appear to work is by sheer brute force, just keep generating text until something seems plausible. 》
Oh, lovely. This example shows us in archetypical form the original sin of genAI, doesn't it. Brute force being used to hide the absence of substantive alignment. Highly instructive (and entertaining), as is your entire thread.
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《 Fable in particular is known to have baffling gibberish intermediate messages, and in general if any of the intermediate "thinking" text was visible it would make it abundantly clear that the only reason these things appear to work is by sheer brute force, just keep generating text until something seems plausible. 》
Oh, lovely. This example shows us in archetypical form the original sin of genAI, doesn't it. Brute force being used to hide the absence of substantive alignment. Highly instructive (and entertaining), as is your entire thread.
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You can see the empty eyes, Lestrade. The self-satisfied smile. This man is no murderer, Inspector. He is an AI victim.
Holmes's voice revealed something akin to pity for the man in custody.
It is plain that our man here has lost all capacity to plan anything as complex as an actual murder of a physical human being. Notice his hand, still grasping the ergonomic mouse even though you have taken away his laptop. Too much ego boosting from the Affirmation Machine has closed him in on himself. If you check his laptop, you will find an open Claude session, not a floor plan of the victim's apartment.
Your murderer is still out and about, Lestrade. What the man before us needs is rest and an Affirmation detox.
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You can see the empty eyes, Lestrade. The self-satisfied smile. This man is no murderer, Inspector. He is an AI victim.
Holmes's voice revealed something akin to pity for the man in custody.
It is plain that our man here has lost all capacity to plan anything as complex as an actual murder of a physical human being. Notice his hand, still grasping the ergonomic mouse even though you have taken away his laptop. Too much ego boosting from the Affirmation Machine has closed him in on himself. If you check his laptop, you will find an open Claude session, not a floor plan of the victim's apartment.
Your murderer is still out and about, Lestrade. What the man before us needs is rest and an Affirmation detox.
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You can see the empty eyes, Lestrade. The self-satisfied smile. This man is no murderer, Inspector. He is an AI victim.
Holmes's voice revealed something akin to pity for the man in custody.
It is plain that our man here has lost all capacity to plan anything as complex as an actual murder of a physical human being. Notice his hand, still grasping the ergonomic mouse even though you have taken away his laptop. Too much ego boosting from the Affirmation Machine has closed him in on himself. If you check his laptop, you will find an open Claude session, not a floor plan of the victim's apartment.
Your murderer is still out and about, Lestrade. What the man before us needs is rest and an Affirmation detox.
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You can see the empty eyes, Lestrade. The self-satisfied smile. This man is no murderer, Inspector. He is an AI victim.
Holmes's voice revealed something akin to pity for the man in custody.
It is plain that our man here has lost all capacity to plan anything as complex as an actual murder of a physical human being. Notice his hand, still grasping the ergonomic mouse even though you have taken away his laptop. Too much ego boosting from the Affirmation Machine has closed him in on himself. If you check his laptop, you will find an open Claude session, not a floor plan of the victim's apartment.
Your murderer is still out and about, Lestrade. What the man before us needs is rest and an Affirmation detox.
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You can see the empty eyes, Lestrade. The self-satisfied smile. This man is no murderer, Inspector. He is an AI victim.
Holmes's voice revealed something akin to pity for the man in custody.
It is plain that our man here has lost all capacity to plan anything as complex as an actual murder of a physical human being. Notice his hand, still grasping the ergonomic mouse even though you have taken away his laptop. Too much ego boosting from the Affirmation Machine has closed him in on himself. If you check his laptop, you will find an open Claude session, not a floor plan of the victim's apartment.
Your murderer is still out and about, Lestrade. What the man before us needs is rest and an Affirmation detox.
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#Microsoft : Embrace, extend, and extinguish
#Facebook: little red book https://v1.benbarry.com/project/facebooks-book
And now it's culminating with #GenAI #LicenseWashing, #AIslop contributions and maintainers burning out
https://bsky.app/profile/samlearner.bsky.social/post/3mqew2x5vws2k
The long overdue schism between the "pragmatic" open source camp and the "ideological" camp leaning towards #NoLLM is finally happening, and we do need it to avoid being extinguished...
This is the original #LittleRedBook by the way, and it's quite fitting how both #BigTech and most communist parties seek to have a #totalitarian #monopoly over the ... um, means of production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung?wprov=sfla1
> Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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#Microsoft : Embrace, extend, and extinguish
#Facebook: little red book https://v1.benbarry.com/project/facebooks-book
And now it's culminating with #GenAI #LicenseWashing, #AIslop contributions and maintainers burning out
https://bsky.app/profile/samlearner.bsky.social/post/3mqew2x5vws2k
The long overdue schism between the "pragmatic" open source camp and the "ideological" camp leaning towards #NoLLM is finally happening, and we do need it to avoid being extinguished...
This is the original #LittleRedBook by the way, and it's quite fitting how both #BigTech and most communist parties seek to have a #totalitarian #monopoly over the ... um, means of production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung?wprov=sfla1
> Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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#Microsoft : Embrace, extend, and extinguish
#Facebook: little red book https://v1.benbarry.com/project/facebooks-book
And now it's culminating with #GenAI #LicenseWashing, #AIslop contributions and maintainers burning out
https://bsky.app/profile/samlearner.bsky.social/post/3mqew2x5vws2k
The long overdue schism between the "pragmatic" open source camp and the "ideological" camp leaning towards #NoLLM is finally happening, and we do need it to avoid being extinguished...
This is the original #LittleRedBook by the way, and it's quite fitting how both #BigTech and most communist parties seek to have a #totalitarian #monopoly over the ... um, means of production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung?wprov=sfla1
> Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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#Microsoft : Embrace, extend, and extinguish
#Facebook: little red book https://v1.benbarry.com/project/facebooks-book
And now it's culminating with #GenAI #LicenseWashing, #AIslop contributions and maintainers burning out
https://bsky.app/profile/samlearner.bsky.social/post/3mqew2x5vws2k
The long overdue schism between the "pragmatic" open source camp and the "ideological" camp leaning towards #NoLLM is finally happening, and we do need it to avoid being extinguished...
This is the original #LittleRedBook by the way, and it's quite fitting how both #BigTech and most communist parties seek to have a #totalitarian #monopoly over the ... um, means of production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung?wprov=sfla1
> Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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#Microsoft : Embrace, extend, and extinguish
#Facebook: little red book https://v1.benbarry.com/project/facebooks-book
And now it's culminating with #GenAI #LicenseWashing, #AIslop contributions and maintainers burning out
https://bsky.app/profile/samlearner.bsky.social/post/3mqew2x5vws2k
The long overdue schism between the "pragmatic" open source camp and the "ideological" camp leaning towards #NoLLM is finally happening, and we do need it to avoid being extinguished...
This is the original #LittleRedBook by the way, and it's quite fitting how both #BigTech and most communist parties seek to have a #totalitarian #monopoly over the ... um, means of production
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung?wprov=sfla1
> Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
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The state of #Python ecosystem right now: almost everything is slop. Some projects are complete vibe-coded slop (autobahn, chardet, cryptography). Some projects are disguised slop ("Coding agents shouldn't co-author themselves.")
There is only a handful of human projects left (Flask being one bright example). And they're being killed. They're being killed by the neverending slew of slop pull requests. They're being killed by all their dependencies becoming slop. They're being killed because this whole ecosystem has became such a complete cesspit that you have zero motivation to do anything.
EDIT: and honestly, this is only going to get worse. When you kill the incentive to work on projects, you only get more slop. Maintainers give in, and more projects become slop. Or they give up, and projects get forked unto slop.
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The state of #Python ecosystem right now: almost everything is slop. Some projects are complete vibe-coded slop (autobahn, chardet, cryptography). Some projects are disguised slop ("Coding agents shouldn't co-author themselves.")
There is only a handful of human projects left (Flask being one bright example). And they're being killed. They're being killed by the neverending slew of slop pull requests. They're being killed by all their dependencies becoming slop. They're being killed because this whole ecosystem has became such a complete cesspit that you have zero motivation to do anything.
EDIT: and honestly, this is only going to get worse. When you kill the incentive to work on projects, you only get more slop. Maintainers give in, and more projects become slop. Or they give up, and projects get forked unto slop.
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Hmm, so gfortran (part of the gcc suite) now has slop in it.
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgcc%2Egnu%2Eorg%2Fgit%2Fgcc
Of course it's got a long way to catch up to LLVM…
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub%2Ecom%2Fllvm%2Fllvm%2Dproject
Given Zig uses LLVM, I wonder where that puts them?
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Hmm, so gfortran (part of the gcc suite) now has slop in it.
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgcc%2Egnu%2Eorg%2Fgit%2Fgcc
Of course it's got a long way to catch up to LLVM…
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub%2Ecom%2Fllvm%2Fllvm%2Dproject
Given Zig uses LLVM, I wonder where that puts them?
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Hmm, so gfortran (part of the gcc suite) now has slop in it.
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgcc%2Egnu%2Eorg%2Fgit%2Fgcc
Of course it's got a long way to catch up to LLVM…
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub%2Ecom%2Fllvm%2Fllvm%2Dproject
Given Zig uses LLVM, I wonder where that puts them?
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Hmm, so gfortran (part of the gcc suite) now has slop in it.
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgcc%2Egnu%2Eorg%2Fgit%2Fgcc
Of course it's got a long way to catch up to LLVM…
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub%2Ecom%2Fllvm%2Fllvm%2Dproject
Given Zig uses LLVM, I wonder where that puts them?
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Hmm, so gfortran (part of the gcc suite) now has slop in it.
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgcc%2Egnu%2Eorg%2Fgit%2Fgcc
Of course it's got a long way to catch up to LLVM…
https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub%2Ecom%2Fllvm%2Fllvm%2Dproject
Given Zig uses LLVM, I wonder where that puts them?
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@warandpeas @oberstenzian Oh! We are so glad that the jew killing button is actually optional and users aren't forced at gunpoint to use it. That was definitely the one and only concern behind pointing out that it's there and not the implications of the leadership whose stated goal is to reduce genocide thinking it fit to make it in the first place and the dark patterns funneling users who don't understand its impact to make use of it.
So great that it allows Us be a good liberal (insult) and use the settings option that lets Us not think about the harm being done at scale, it's clearly fine as long as We don't personally participate in that one part while contributing to their operations otherwise.
(Sarcasm frothing at the edges of mouth like crumbs of hastily stolen cake.)
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@warandpeas @oberstenzian Oh! We are so glad that the jew killing button is actually optional and users aren't forced at gunpoint to use it. That was definitely the one and only concern behind pointing out that it's there and not the implications of the leadership whose stated goal is to reduce genocide thinking it fit to make it in the first place and the dark patterns funneling users who don't understand its impact to make use of it.
So great that it allows Us be a good liberal (insult) and use the settings option that lets Us not think about the harm being done at scale, it's clearly fine as long as We don't personally participate in that one part while contributing to their operations otherwise.
(Sarcasm frothing at the edges of mouth like crumbs of hastily stolen cake.)
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Quite incredible.
OUP World Classics brings out a new translation of Proust's La Prisonnière, and it turns out that the translator (Andrew Rothwell) assembled his copy from fragments provided to him by a genAI tool. And he couldn'd even be bothered to tell the editor about it! The Way We Live Now.
Painfully strong Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes. Who hasn't been turned around yet?
(Thank you for the link to the LitHub essay. An excellent piece of writing and nuanced reflection by Bryan Charles.)
#Proust #BryanCharles #AndrewRothwell #translation #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption
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Quite incredible.
OUP World Classics brings out a new translation of Proust's La Prisonnière, and it turns out that the translator (Andrew Rothwell) assembled his copy from fragments provided to him by a genAI tool. And he couldn'd even be bothered to tell the editor about it! The Way We Live Now.
Painfully strong Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes. Who hasn't been turned around yet?
(Thank you for the link to the LitHub essay. An excellent piece of writing and nuanced reflection by Bryan Charles.)
#Proust #BryanCharles #AndrewRothwell #translation #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption
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Quite incredible.
OUP World Classics brings out a new translation of Proust's La Prisonnière, and it turns out that the translator (Andrew Rothwell) assembled his copy from fragments provided to him by a genAI tool. And he couldn'd even be bothered to tell the editor about it! The Way We Live Now.
Painfully strong Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes. Who hasn't been turned around yet?
(Thank you for the link to the LitHub essay. An excellent piece of writing and nuanced reflection by Bryan Charles.)
#Proust #BryanCharles #AndrewRothwell #translation #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption
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Quite incredible.
OUP World Classics brings out a new translation of Proust's La Prisonnière, and it turns out that the translator (Andrew Rothwell) assembled his copy from fragments provided to him by a genAI tool. And he couldn'd even be bothered to tell the editor about it! The Way We Live Now.
Painfully strong Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes. Who hasn't been turned around yet?
(Thank you for the link to the LitHub essay. An excellent piece of writing and nuanced reflection by Bryan Charles.)
#Proust #BryanCharles #AndrewRothwell #translation #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption
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Quite incredible.
OUP World Classics brings out a new translation of Proust's La Prisonnière, and it turns out that the translator (Andrew Rothwell) assembled his copy from fragments provided to him by a genAI tool. And he couldn'd even be bothered to tell the editor about it! The Way We Live Now.
Painfully strong Invasion of the Body Snatchers vibes. Who hasn't been turned around yet?
(Thank you for the link to the LitHub essay. An excellent piece of writing and nuanced reflection by Bryan Charles.)
#Proust #BryanCharles #AndrewRothwell #translation #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption
