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  1. @bibliolater

    The bubble does what every bubble wants to do: it breaches all limits of sanity. The laws of phyiscs and the laws of logic all are being suspended. Or so it seems, until the inevitable return to reality. In the meantime, valuable resources worth trillions of dollars are being misdirected. What a collosal waste.

    Tulips at least did not material harm. Come back, Tulip Mania.

    #noAI #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption #bubbles #nvidia #TulipMania

  2. @bibliolater

    The bubble does what every bubble wants to do: it breaches all limits of sanity. The laws of phyiscs and the laws of logic all are being suspended. Or so it seems, until the inevitable return to reality. In the meantime, valuable resources worth trillions of dollars are being misdirected. What a collosal waste.

    Tulips at least did not material harm. Come back, Tulip Mania.

    #noAI #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption #bubbles #nvidia #TulipMania

  3. Okay, not using "#AI" isn't hard.

    It's not like anybody's asking you to switch to a more expensive vegan diet when you've been eating meat all your life and you have a bunch of health issues that make any diet changes hard.

    It's more like deciding not to switch from a normal diet to one primarily based on McDonald's just because everyone else thinks it's cool, and also you're going to save some time on cooking (at the cost of driving there and back all the time).

    What we're literally asking you to consider is to keep doing things like you do, without engaging in a pointless, expensive, destructive hype just because "everyone" thinks it's so great and it gives you positive reinforcement. It's "you've managed not to be a dork so far, why'd you suddenly want to pay extra to become one?"

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  4. Okay, not using "#AI" isn't hard.

    It's not like anybody's asking you to switch to a more expensive vegan diet when you've been eating meat all your life and you have a bunch of health issues that make any diet changes hard.

    It's more like deciding not to switch from a normal diet to one primarily based on McDonald's just because everyone else thinks it's cool, and also you're going to save some time on cooking (at the cost of driving there and back all the time).

    What we're literally asking you to consider is to keep doing things like you do, without engaging in a pointless, expensive, destructive hype just because "everyone" thinks it's so great and it gives you positive reinforcement. It's "you've managed not to be a dork so far, why'd you suddenly want to pay extra to become one?"

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  5. Bloody frustrating trying to find stuff that's not LLM-tainted now.

    I want to build a launcher, ultimately for Wayland, though if I can support X11 with it too… fantastic, there are plenty of X11 window managers that could benefit from something that reads FreeDesktop.org .menu / .desktop files and builds up a menu tree to navigate.

    I'm thinking of building this in C++, since gcc have, for now, said they will decline "legally significant LLM content". So far the only bit I know that has ingested slop there is Fortran.

    Years ago, I'd have reached for Qt for this, but they embrace the slop now.
    Fine, how about FLTK? Nope, they have inhaled as well.
    WxWidgets? Just checked their Github page… "A user you have blocked has contributed" (claude).
    Tk? Wayland is a work-in-progress. X11 only for now.
    Motif? Does anyone use that in 2026?
    Xaw? You got to be joking…

    GTK+ *looks* clean so far… but then again, I said that about wxWidgets a month back … and I utterly detest dealing with GTK… but that might be my only viable option.

    Ugh I hate this timeline.

    #NoLLM #GUIToolkit #rant

  6. Bloody frustrating trying to find stuff that's not LLM-tainted now.

    I want to build a launcher, ultimately for Wayland, though if I can support X11 with it too… fantastic, there are plenty of X11 window managers that could benefit from something that reads FreeDesktop.org .menu / .desktop files and builds up a menu tree to navigate.

    I'm thinking of building this in C++, since gcc have, for now, said they will decline "legally significant LLM content". So far the only bit I know that has ingested slop there is Fortran.

    Years ago, I'd have reached for Qt for this, but they embrace the slop now.
    Fine, how about FLTK? Nope, they have inhaled as well.
    WxWidgets? Just checked their Github page… "A user you have blocked has contributed" (claude).
    Tk? Wayland is a work-in-progress. X11 only for now.
    Motif? Does anyone use that in 2026?
    Xaw? You got to be joking…

    GTK+ *looks* clean so far… but then again, I said that about wxWidgets a month back … and I utterly detest dealing with GTK… but that might be my only viable option.

    Ugh I hate this timeline.

    #NoLLM #GUIToolkit #rant

  7. Since #homeassistant accepts AI contributions I'm looking for a #noai #nollm FOSS alternative, any recommendations from the fediverse?

  8. Since #homeassistant accepts AI contributions I'm looking for a #noai #nollm FOSS alternative, any recommendations from the fediverse?

  9. If anyone's wondering, #Xfce is a #slop junk now too, and the author is busy writing long excuses for them, with full realization of how harmful they are.

    spurint.org/journal/2026/07/ll

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  10. If anyone's wondering, #Xfce is a #slop junk now too, and the author is busy writing long excuses for them, with full realization of how harmful they are.

    spurint.org/journal/2026/07/ll

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  11. Update on Bing use-case: quickly view a Gregorian calendar month display with new features and without Copilot noise.

    In 2024, I wrote about a use-case for Bing where it vastly outshines all other search engines. https://tantek.com/2024/287/t3/bing-use-case-calendar-month

    Since then, Bing has added “Copilot” LLM generated results to the top of search results by default, and unfortunately they add zero value to calendar month searches and displays. Worse, Copilot’s “summary” can often be long enough to push the actual calendar month display “below the fold” as it were.

    Solution: add " -ai" to your query.

    E.g. assuming you’ve setup Firefox search shortcuts as I recommended (https://tantek.com/2024/287/t2/setup-search-shortcuts-firefox)

    Type this into your Firefox address bar:

    b 2026 sep -ai

    or directly go to https://bing.com/ and enter: 2026 sep -ai

    and press return. You should see a days and weeks grid display for September 2026, with the current day of the month (the 9th as I’m writing this) selected in the displayed month.


    Note the new calendar month display features since I last blogged this in 2024:
    * Day 252 — day of the year! September 9th of 2026 is the 252nd day of 2026.
    * Week 37 — Sept 9th is also on the 37th week of 2026
    * 31 days later — Sept 9th is 31 days from today (August 9th).
    * < [ Sep v ] > – little anglebracket arrows on either side of the month button/dropdown to one-click nav to the prev/next month
    * [ Start Day v ] — a new “Start Day” drop down button to change which day of the week to display as the start of the week

    Amazing that despite already being far better than any other search engine for year month queries, Bing has *improved* its calendar month display search results, while Duckduckgo, Google, Yahoo are just as useless (yes I checked) as they were two years ago (I also tried Ecosia and it was no better). I am hashtagging them all to see if anyone at those other search engines notices and gets around to implementing a similar calendar month display.

    #search #webSearch #SearchShortcut #Microsoft #Bing #MicrosoftBing #BingSearch #BingTip #searchTip #calendar #month
    #CoPilot #NoCoPilot #NoAI #NoGenAI #NoLLM #Firefox #DuckDuckGo #Google #GoogleSearch #Yahoo #YahooSearch #Ecosia.

    #Blaugust #Blaugust2026

  12. Update on Bing use-case: quickly view a Gregorian calendar month display with new features and without Copilot noise.

    In 2024, I wrote about a use-case for Bing where it vastly outshines all other search engines. https://tantek.com/2024/287/t3/bing-use-case-calendar-month

    Since then, Bing has added “Copilot” LLM generated results to the top of search results by default, and unfortunately they add zero value to calendar month searches and displays. Worse, Copilot’s “summary” can often be long enough to push the actual calendar month display “below the fold” as it were.

    Solution: add " -ai" to your query.

    E.g. assuming you’ve setup Firefox search shortcuts as I recommended (https://tantek.com/2024/287/t2/setup-search-shortcuts-firefox)

    Type this into your Firefox address bar:

    b 2026 sep -ai

    or directly go to https://bing.com/ and enter: 2026 sep -ai

    and press return. You should see a days and weeks grid display for September 2026, with the current day of the month (the 9th as I’m writing this) selected in the displayed month.


    Note the new calendar month display features since I last blogged this in 2024:
    * Day 252 — day of the year! September 9th of 2026 is the 252nd day of 2026.
    * Week 37 — Sept 9th is also on the 37th week of 2026
    * 31 days later — Sept 9th is 31 days from today (August 9th).
    * < [ Sep v ] > – little anglebracket arrows on either side of the month button/dropdown to one-click nav to the prev/next month
    * [ Start Day v ] — a new “Start Day” drop down button to change which day of the week to display as the start of the week

    Amazing that despite already being far better than any other search engine for year month queries, Bing has *improved* its calendar month display search results, while Duckduckgo, Google, Yahoo are just as useless (yes I checked) as they were two years ago (I also tried Ecosia and it was no better). I am hashtagging them all to see if anyone at those other search engines notices and gets around to implementing a similar calendar month display.

    #search #webSearch #SearchShortcut #Microsoft #Bing #MicrosoftBing #BingSearch #BingTip #searchTip #calendar #month
    #CoPilot #NoCoPilot #NoAI #NoGenAI #NoLLM #Firefox #DuckDuckGo #Google #GoogleSearch #Yahoo #YahooSearch #Ecosia.

    #Blaugust #Blaugust2026

  13. A heartfelt "no to genAI" from a teaching and education perspective. By Katherine Rundell. l 100% agree.

    《 genAI risks becoming an iron curtain that comes down between a young person and their potential for thinking, for experiment and conquering frustration, for stamina and for invention – and thereby, between the young people and their freedom. It risks halting learning before it can take flight. 》

    《 It was always very possible to write an essay about Paradise Lost without having read Paradise Lost. This is the first time it is possible to create an essay about Paradise Lost without having read the essay you just “wrote”. This is the first time in history that sentences do not need to have humans behind them. 》

    《 The young mind is a spectacular thing. To waste its beauty and strength would be a dereliction of the trust the young are asked to put in the old. 》

    theguardian.com/books/ng-inter

    #education #learning #noAI #noLLM #KatherineRundell #StopTheAICorruption

  14. A heartfelt "no to genAI" from a teaching and education perspective. By Katherine Rundell. l 100% agree.

    《 genAI risks becoming an iron curtain that comes down between a young person and their potential for thinking, for experiment and conquering frustration, for stamina and for invention – and thereby, between the young people and their freedom. It risks halting learning before it can take flight. 》

    《 It was always very possible to write an essay about Paradise Lost without having read Paradise Lost. This is the first time it is possible to create an essay about Paradise Lost without having read the essay you just “wrote”. This is the first time in history that sentences do not need to have humans behind them. 》

    《 The young mind is a spectacular thing. To waste its beauty and strength would be a dereliction of the trust the young are asked to put in the old. 》

    theguardian.com/books/ng-inter

    #education #learning #noAI #noLLM #KatherineRundell #StopTheAICorruption

  15. I've taken #Gentoo Bugzilla down, because it was unusable anyway. No point in feeding the #LLM scrapers that are using thousands of different IPv4 addresses, with no obvious patterns I can see.

    EDIT: I'm not looking for hints. I'm not a sysadmin, and I don't have time to deal with this shit. I'm just trying to get some useful job done. I'm not supposed to have to be dealing with this.

    #AI #NoAI #NoLLM

  16. I've taken #Gentoo Bugzilla down, because it was unusable anyway. No point in feeding the #LLM scrapers that are using thousands of different IPv4 addresses, with no obvious patterns I can see.

    EDIT: I'm not looking for hints. I'm not a sysadmin, and I don't have time to deal with this shit. I'm just trying to get some useful job done. I'm not supposed to have to be dealing with this.

    #AI #NoAI #NoLLM

  17. @Lichtenbergian

    Fascinating article by Anne Lawrence-Mathers on the _Ars Notoria_. Thank you for the Lichtenbergian assignment!

    As you say, the visual element in the Ars Notoria book is interesting. The whole presentation feels very current.

    As does the desire by its medieval users to bypass actual learning through the use of arcane methods unrelated to the subject matter. The association with current LLM practices is striking, and rather amusing.

    And, just like today's genAI users need to develop ever more sophistiated layers of prompt-management skills, so the medieval Ars Notoria users struggled to meet the extensive technical demands of invoking the substitute methods. Then as now, one wants to ask these users: why not do the real thing?

    Thought-provoking stuff!

    #ArsNotoria #AnneLawrenceMathers #noAI #noLLM #noShortcuts #StopTheAICorruption

  18. @Lichtenbergian

    Fascinating article by Anne Lawrence-Mathers on the _Ars Notoria_. Thank you for the Lichtenbergian assignment!

    As you say, the visual element in the Ars Notoria book is interesting. The whole presentation feels very current.

    As does the desire by its medieval users to bypass actual learning through the use of arcane methods unrelated to the subject matter. The association with current LLM practices is striking, and rather amusing.

    And, just like today's genAI users need to develop ever more sophistiated layers of prompt-management skills, so the medieval Ars Notoria users struggled to meet the extensive technical demands of invoking the substitute methods. Then as now, one wants to ask these users: why not do the real thing?

    Thought-provoking stuff!

    #ArsNotoria #AnneLawrenceMathers #noAI #noLLM #noShortcuts #StopTheAICorruption

  19. Bon, déjà, l'évidence: l'intelligence artificielle partout, cest une cata.
    Mais quand un-e journaliste de ce niveau de pouvoir prétend qu'une I.A.générative est "parfaite", j'estime qu'on devrait supprimer sa carte de presse et le-a retrogader jusqu'à la base.
    #StopTheSlop #NoAI #NoLLM

    RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:jmusvarqn5czqikhnqdmjyum/post/3msib6zuvea26

  20. If my principles didn't prevent me from doing that, I'd be replying with walls of LLM-generated text of how offended I am whenever someone replies to my bug reports with LLM-generated walls of text.

    Also, this is where I lose patience: github.com/faust-streaming/cCh

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  21. If my principles didn't prevent me from doing that, I'd be replying with walls of LLM-generated text of how offended I am whenever someone replies to my bug reports with LLM-generated walls of text.

    Also, this is where I lose patience: github.com/faust-streaming/cCh

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  22. @thomasfuchs @_the_cloud @a2_4am this is why AI slop in even the hobbyist realm is poisoning the well.

    You don’t know what license it holds, whose underlying work has been stolen, and it diminishes the overall level of true joy of discovery in the community.

    And then there’s the training ethics and environmental cost.

    It’s a “Look at the shiny thing *I* made without really trying!” situation rather than “Look at this amazing thing I discovered! And now I can create this other thing with that knowledge.”

    Something worth doing *is worth doing*.

    Pull a handle on a slop…I mean slot…no actually, I mean slop machine to get an answer-shaped dingus is as bad as using AIs for “creative” uses like, oh, I don’t know, blog post header images. Even in the hobby space.

    So, using it for creative uses like, oh, I *do* know, programming, is as bad as using it in any creative endeavour.

    We’ll end up in a melange of slop in all fields if we don’t resist in all fields because everyone seems to have a “Oh, it’s ok for *that* ‘low value’ endeavour, just not for the one/s *I* care about it being used in.”

    Simply: #NoAI #NoLLM #NoGenAI

    hachyderm.io/@thomasfuchs/1170

  23. @thomasfuchs @_the_cloud @a2_4am this is why AI slop in even the hobbyist realm is poisoning the well.

    You don’t know what license it holds, whose underlying work has been stolen, and it diminishes the overall level of true joy of discovery in the community.

    And then there’s the training ethics and environmental cost.

    It’s a “Look at the shiny thing *I* made without really trying!” situation rather than “Look at this amazing thing I discovered! And now I can create this other thing with that knowledge.”

    Something worth doing *is worth doing*.

    Pull a handle on a slop…I mean slot…no actually, I mean slop machine to get an answer-shaped dingus is as bad as using AIs for “creative” uses like, oh, I don’t know, blog post header images. Even in the hobby space.

    So, using it for creative uses like, oh, I *do* know, programming, is as bad as using it in any creative endeavour.

    We’ll end up in a melange of slop in all fields if we don’t resist in all fields because everyone seems to have a “Oh, it’s ok for *that* ‘low value’ endeavour, just not for the one/s *I* care about it being used in.”

    Simply: #NoAI #NoLLM #NoGenAI

    hachyderm.io/@thomasfuchs/1170

  24. @xexyl

    Yes, #noAI is usefull too. As is #noLLM. I have used all of these and still do. In April 2025 I did a small poll on these hashtags:
    mastodonapp.uk/@the_roamer/115

    That discussion was in favour of "noAI", but since then I moved more toward "noLLM".

    I see the "zuzai" tag as an additional element, and more as whimsical tease, not an all-earnest certificate.

    It's ok if there are people who don't know what it means --- they are free to overlook it, or to be puzzled and look it up, or to be puzzled and remain puzzled.

    Eg, I once added a brief no-genAI statement to my email signature, but it just felt pedantic and wrong. I removed it after a week. But I can picture myself adding "#zuzai" to my signature. Most will ignore it, some will detect it and will understand, some will search for it. It's more playful and less preachy than the other options.

    Searching for zuzai on Google or DDG produces the zuzai.org site right away, so there is no need to add the weblink.

    #zuzai

  25. @xexyl

    Yes, #noAI is usefull too. As is #noLLM. I have used all of these and still do. In April 2025 I did a small poll on these hashtags:
    mastodonapp.uk/@the_roamer/115

    That discussion was in favour of "noAI", but since then I moved more toward "noLLM".

    I see the "zuzai" tag as an additional element, and more as whimsical tease, not an all-earnest certificate.

    It's ok if there are people who don't know what it means --- they are free to overlook it, or to be puzzled and look it up, or to be puzzled and remain puzzled.

    Eg, I once added a brief no-genAI statement to my email signature, but it just felt pedantic and wrong. I removed it after a week. But I can picture myself adding "#zuzai" to my signature. Most will ignore it, some will detect it and will understand, some will search for it. It's more playful and less preachy than the other options.

    Searching for zuzai on Google or DDG produces the zuzai.org site right away, so there is no need to add the weblink.

    #zuzai

  26. I think warnings like "AI-generated content may be incorrect" or "AI responses may include mistakes" are fundamentally wrong. It makes the user think that, in general, the output is a truth.
    The warning should point to the idea that LLM output **sometimes** may be correct.
    It should be something like:

    "The output is generated by a text generator. Any resemblance to reality is purely coincidental. There is no intelligence behind the text."

    Also the warning can be closer to something written on cigarette packs:

    "A lot of services were harmed to create the service you're currently using. The Earth is irreversibly damaging right now because of your use this service. Periodical use of such generators may lead to a cognitive surrender."

    May be interesting for subscribers #NoSlop #NoLLM #NoAI

  27. I think warnings like "AI-generated content may be incorrect" or "AI responses may include mistakes" are fundamentally wrong. It makes the user think that, in general, the output is a truth.
    The warning should point to the idea that LLM output **sometimes** may be correct.
    It should be something like:

    "The output is generated by a text generator. Any resemblance to reality is purely coincidental. There is no intelligence behind the text."

    Also the warning can be closer to something written on cigarette packs:

    "A lot of services were harmed to create the service you're currently using. The Earth is irreversibly damaging right now because of your use this service. Periodical use of such generators may lead to a cognitive surrender."

    May be interesting for subscribers #NoSlop #NoLLM #NoAI

  28. indieweb.social/@jaredwhite/11

    It's a neat idea to curate a list of anti-AI practioners, but the OP/organizer immediately undermines himself by allowing signatories that self-report enjoying being "just a little bit nazi, as a treat".

    At least it served as a decent honeypot thread; the AI bros cannot abide by any non-LLM / non-genAI spaces or conversations and tell on themselves in the replies as they always do.

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  29. @xexyl

    I think it's useful to have a quick way of flagging the fact that the text one publishes is written by a human, undistorted by LLM machinery.

    It's also useful to have a battle-cry tag when debating those very issues.

    Naturally, fighting the pervasive use of genAI is a separate matter from flagging its non-use in a particular text, but in practice the two overlap and I wouldn't mind using #zuzai for both purposes. Not very pure from a philosophcal standpoint, I understand, but to me #zuzai would sound OK in either context.

    Which word or words should we use for these purposes? Whatever gets adopted will be fine. I often use #noLLM, or my own personal marker, "#StopTheAICorruption". I'd be glad to use #zuzai instead, or in addition to the other tags.

    No such word will be perfect, and if need be we can do without any tag. Though I think tags on Mastodon are cool.

  30. @xexyl

    I think it's useful to have a quick way of flagging the fact that the text one publishes is written by a human, undistorted by LLM machinery.

    It's also useful to have a battle-cry tag when debating those very issues.

    Naturally, fighting the pervasive use of genAI is a separate matter from flagging its non-use in a particular text, but in practice the two overlap and I wouldn't mind using #zuzai for both purposes. Not very pure from a philosophcal standpoint, I understand, but to me #zuzai would sound OK in either context.

    Which word or words should we use for these purposes? Whatever gets adopted will be fine. I often use #noLLM, or my own personal marker, "#StopTheAICorruption". I'd be glad to use #zuzai instead, or in addition to the other tags.

    No such word will be perfect, and if need be we can do without any tag. Though I think tags on Mastodon are cool.

  31. I've setup #syncthing to synchronize my music between my desktop and my android, and run deadbeef on the desktop and vinyl music player on my phone. No more ai-infested #spotify for me! #noai #nollm

  32. I've setup #syncthing to synchronize my music between my desktop and my android, and run deadbeef on the desktop and vinyl music player on my phone. No more ai-infested #spotify for me! #noai #nollm

  33. Neoliberals: "We agree with all what you said, but this needs to be handled via regulation. We won't be inconveniencing ourselves with boycotting it."

    Neoliberals when regulation occurs: "They're taking our freedom!"

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  34. Neoliberals: "We agree with all what you said, but this needs to be handled via regulation. We won't be inconveniencing ourselves with boycotting it."

    Neoliberals when regulation occurs: "They're taking our freedom!"

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  35. And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).

    Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute." (This was about the copyright policy, so they could have contributed noncontroversially for a long time, yet they never did.)

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  36. And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).

    Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute." (This was about the copyright policy, so they could have contributed noncontroversially for a long time, yet they never did.)

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  37. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

    When someone I used to respect starts using LLMs, I'm thinking: okay, their moral compass is bad, but at least they're putting an effort to review that stuff and they're trying to improve other projects.

    When that person writes a pro-AI blog post, complaining that people aren't respecting them anymore, I'm still trying to stay neutral.

    But honestly, when said person starts ranting that Codeberg dared ban vibecoded shit, I can't but despise them at this point.

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  38. I'm trying to keep an open mind.

    When someone I used to respect starts using LLMs, I'm thinking: okay, their moral compass is bad, but at least they're putting an effort to review that stuff and they're trying to improve other projects.

    When that person writes a pro-AI blog post, complaining that people aren't respecting them anymore, I'm still trying to stay neutral.

    But honestly, when said person starts ranting that Codeberg dared ban vibecoded shit, I can't but despise them at this point.

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  39. So, Codeberg (which is a FOSS/freedom-focused code hosting site) is run as a cooperative, with members able to nominate measures/policies and vote on them etc.

    They just had a vote and approved policies making "AI" / LLM-based projects basically unwelcome there. The vote wasn't close; 70% voted in favour of the policy. It's not a hard & fast "if you use LLM, you're banned" or anything of the sort - it's quite a measured, reasoned stance.

    The slopcoders are freaking out. They just don't understand how this is possible. Imagine! A community of people that makes their own decisions and you can't just make them do what you want or ignore them and consume their resources without their consent!

    "I like slopcoding, actually" is turning out to be a *really* good litmus test for people you want to have absolutely nothing to do with your project or your community.

    Look at some of the whining (this is the only reason I would ever link to YCombinator [1]):
    news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4

    [1] Your occasional and irregular reminder: "Hacker" "News" is neither.

    #NoAI #NoLLM #sloperator #slopcoding #vibecoding #consent #Codeberg #hosting #forge #community #FOSS #HackerNews #YCombinator

  40. So, Codeberg (which is a FOSS/freedom-focused code hosting site) is run as a cooperative, with members able to nominate measures/policies and vote on them etc.

    They just had a vote and approved policies making "AI" / LLM-based projects basically unwelcome there. The vote wasn't close; 70% voted in favour of the policy. It's not a hard & fast "if you use LLM, you're banned" or anything of the sort - it's quite a measured, reasoned stance.

    The slopcoders are freaking out. They just don't understand how this is possible. Imagine! A community of people that makes their own decisions and you can't just make them do what you want or ignore them and consume their resources without their consent!

    "I like slopcoding, actually" is turning out to be a *really* good litmus test for people you want to have absolutely nothing to do with your project or your community.

    Look at some of the whining (this is the only reason I would ever link to YCombinator [1]):
    news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4

    [1] Your occasional and irregular reminder: "Hacker" "News" is neither.

    #NoAI #NoLLM #sloperator #slopcoding #vibecoding #consent #Codeberg #hosting #forge #community #FOSS #HackerNews #YCombinator

  41. And here is Mr Hepworth. He will be your AI replacement over the coming weeks. Mr Hepworth will accept any prompts that you put to him, and he will respond to them in his own way. You will find the change hard at first, but you will get through this.

    #ThePromptFreeLife #StopTheAICorruption #noLLM

  42. And here is Mr Hepworth. He will be your AI replacement over the coming weeks. Mr Hepworth will accept any prompts that you put to him, and he will respond to them in his own way. You will find the change hard at first, but you will get through this.

    #ThePromptFreeLife #StopTheAICorruption #noLLM

  43. "The AI hype cycle would have you believe the technology is inevitable. But AI backlash is growing, as people worry it will steal their jobs, jack up electricity rates and further enrich the wealthy, all while hurting the environment.

    … Only 18% of young people ages 14 to 29 say they feel hopeful about AI, according to a recent Gallup survey.

    The disdain spans generations and political parties."

    AI backlash becomes a real business risk:
    finance.yahoo.com/sectors/tech

    #noAI #noLLM

  44. "The AI hype cycle would have you believe the technology is inevitable. But AI backlash is growing, as people worry it will steal their jobs, jack up electricity rates and further enrich the wealthy, all while hurting the environment.

    … Only 18% of young people ages 14 to 29 say they feel hopeful about AI, according to a recent Gallup survey.

    The disdain spans generations and political parties."

    AI backlash becomes a real business risk:
    finance.yahoo.com/sectors/tech

    #noAI #noLLM

  45. In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.

    It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  46. In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.

    It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.

    #NoAI #NoLLM

  47. Let's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.

    Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.

    Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.

    Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.

    #NoAI #NoLLM #LLM

  48. Let's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.

    Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.

    Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.

    Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.

    #NoAI #NoLLM #LLM

  49. Here's a perfect #blog #AntiSpam idea: put an URL field, and say "to pass, you must leave that field empty". Challenge difficulty level: impossible.

    #spam #slop #NoAI #NoLLM

  50. Here's a perfect #blog #AntiSpam idea: put an URL field, and say "to pass, you must leave that field empty". Challenge difficulty level: impossible.

    #spam #slop #NoAI #NoLLM

  51. I love how people keep shitting up #slop comments that praise my #LLM criticisms. I mean, I probably wouldn't have figured it out if not there were two suspiciously similar comments, and both ofc linked some random slop SaaS.

    #AI #NoAI #NoLLM

  52. I love how people keep shitting up #slop comments that praise my #LLM criticisms. I mean, I probably wouldn't have figured it out if not there were two suspiciously similar comments, and both ofc linked some random slop SaaS.

    #AI #NoAI #NoLLM