#nollm — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #nollm, aggregated by home.social.
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Neoliberals: "We agree with all what you said, but this needs to be handled via regulation. We won't be inconveniencing ourselves with boycotting it."
Neoliberals when regulation occurs: "They're taking our freedom!"
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Neoliberals: "We agree with all what you said, but this needs to be handled via regulation. We won't be inconveniencing ourselves with boycotting it."
Neoliberals when regulation occurs: "They're taking our freedom!"
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And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).
Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute." (This was about the copyright policy, so they could have contributed noncontroversially for a long time, yet they never did.)
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And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).
Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute." (This was about the copyright policy, so they could have contributed noncontroversially for a long time, yet they never did.)
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I'm trying to keep an open mind.
When someone I used to respect starts using LLMs, I'm thinking: okay, their moral compass is bad, but at least they're putting an effort to review that stuff and they're trying to improve other projects.
When that person writes a pro-AI blog post, complaining that people aren't respecting them anymore, I'm still trying to stay neutral.
But honestly, when said person starts ranting that Codeberg dared ban vibecoded shit, I can't but despise them at this point.
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I'm trying to keep an open mind.
When someone I used to respect starts using LLMs, I'm thinking: okay, their moral compass is bad, but at least they're putting an effort to review that stuff and they're trying to improve other projects.
When that person writes a pro-AI blog post, complaining that people aren't respecting them anymore, I'm still trying to stay neutral.
But honestly, when said person starts ranting that Codeberg dared ban vibecoded shit, I can't but despise them at this point.
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So, Codeberg (which is a FOSS/freedom-focused code hosting site) is run as a cooperative, with members able to nominate measures/policies and vote on them etc.
They just had a vote and approved policies making "AI" / LLM-based projects basically unwelcome there. The vote wasn't close; 70% voted in favour of the policy. It's not a hard & fast "if you use LLM, you're banned" or anything of the sort - it's quite a measured, reasoned stance.
The slopcoders are freaking out. They just don't understand how this is possible. Imagine! A community of people that makes their own decisions and you can't just make them do what you want or ignore them and consume their resources without their consent!
"I like slopcoding, actually" is turning out to be a *really* good litmus test for people you want to have absolutely nothing to do with your project or your community.
Look at some of the whining (this is the only reason I would ever link to YCombinator [1]):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49021856[1] Your occasional and irregular reminder: "Hacker" "News" is neither.
#NoAI #NoLLM #sloperator #slopcoding #vibecoding #consent #Codeberg #hosting #forge #community #FOSS #HackerNews #YCombinator
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So, Codeberg (which is a FOSS/freedom-focused code hosting site) is run as a cooperative, with members able to nominate measures/policies and vote on them etc.
They just had a vote and approved policies making "AI" / LLM-based projects basically unwelcome there. The vote wasn't close; 70% voted in favour of the policy. It's not a hard & fast "if you use LLM, you're banned" or anything of the sort - it's quite a measured, reasoned stance.
The slopcoders are freaking out. They just don't understand how this is possible. Imagine! A community of people that makes their own decisions and you can't just make them do what you want or ignore them and consume their resources without their consent!
"I like slopcoding, actually" is turning out to be a *really* good litmus test for people you want to have absolutely nothing to do with your project or your community.
Look at some of the whining (this is the only reason I would ever link to YCombinator [1]):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49021856[1] Your occasional and irregular reminder: "Hacker" "News" is neither.
#NoAI #NoLLM #sloperator #slopcoding #vibecoding #consent #Codeberg #hosting #forge #community #FOSS #HackerNews #YCombinator
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And here is Mr Hepworth. He will be your AI replacement over the coming weeks. Mr Hepworth will accept any prompts that you put to him, and he will respond to them in his own way. You will find the change hard at first, but you will get through this.
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And here is Mr Hepworth. He will be your AI replacement over the coming weeks. Mr Hepworth will accept any prompts that you put to him, and he will respond to them in his own way. You will find the change hard at first, but you will get through this.
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"The AI hype cycle would have you believe the technology is inevitable. But AI backlash is growing, as people worry it will steal their jobs, jack up electricity rates and further enrich the wealthy, all while hurting the environment.
… Only 18% of young people ages 14 to 29 say they feel hopeful about AI, according to a recent Gallup survey.
The disdain spans generations and political parties."
AI backlash becomes a real business risk:
https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/ai-backlash-becomes-real-business-120007051.html -
"The AI hype cycle would have you believe the technology is inevitable. But AI backlash is growing, as people worry it will steal their jobs, jack up electricity rates and further enrich the wealthy, all while hurting the environment.
… Only 18% of young people ages 14 to 29 say they feel hopeful about AI, according to a recent Gallup survey.
The disdain spans generations and political parties."
AI backlash becomes a real business risk:
https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/ai-backlash-becomes-real-business-120007051.html -
In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
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In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
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In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
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In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
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In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security releases. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
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Let's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.
Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.
Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.
Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.
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Let's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.
Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.
Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.
Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.
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Find projects that do not use AI on the new No AI List website: https://noailist.org
People are looking to find and support No AI projects - so whether you're working on gamedev, art, software, music, or something else, add your project today!
#NoAI #antiai #nollm #tech #technology #gamedev #mastoart #music #software #dev
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Find projects that do not use AI on the new No AI List website: https://noailist.org
People are looking to find and support No AI projects - so whether you're working on gamedev, art, software, music, or something else, add your project today!
#NoAI #antiai #nollm #tech #technology #gamedev #mastoart #music #software #dev
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@rafbuff/116951796523823504
Es gibt auch neuere Entwicklungen zu Memristoren und energiesparenden Synapsen.
KI aber kein LLM
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@rafbuff/116951796523823504
Es gibt auch neuere Entwicklungen zu Memristoren und energiesparenden Synapsen.
KI aber kein LLM
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@rafbuff/116951796523823504
Es gibt auch neuere Entwicklungen zu Memristoren und energiesparenden Synapsen.
KI aber kein LLM
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@rafbuff/116951796523823504
Es gibt auch neuere Entwicklungen zu Memristoren und energiesparenden Synapsen.
KI aber kein LLM
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@rafbuff/116951796523823504
Es gibt auch neuere Entwicklungen zu Memristoren und energiesparenden Synapsen.
KI aber kein LLM
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
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So… looking at that "In the weights" site again today… the results are even funnier if someone has less of an "online" presence.
Apparently I and both my parents were actors in BBC show "The Bill"… my father comes up as a soccer player… and my mother apparently was a swimmer in the 1960 summer Olympic games.
So yeah… bullshit machines they are! Sometimes you can trust a little of what they say, and sometimes it's complete and utter crap. We've come to the conclusion that at least one model thinks if it's a British-sounding name, they must've been an actor in "The Bill".
Ironically in those cases, the bit that was considered "hallucination" was: "these are private individuals" , "these names are ambiguous" or "this name relates to multiple people".
