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@Martina NeumayerThis is supposed to be a phone that women will also use
You honestly think that every smartphone out there has the same target audience as the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy?
This is supposed to be a phone that geeks will use first and foremost. The most hardcore of them. The direct opposite of “tech-illiterate”.
In case you didn't know: The new Jolla Phone is From The Makers Of™ the first Jolla Phone. And the Nokia N9. They were all targetted at the same audience who actually bought the direct predecessor of the N9, the Nokia N900.
I mean, look at the N900. Now, look at the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 which came out before and after the N900. Notice how thick and clunky the N900 is in comparison especially with the iPhone 4? Why would someone buy that?
Because it ran Maemo. And because it had a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard.
Why would someone want that operating system if there were thousands of times more apps available for iOS?
Because Maemo is a fork of Debian GNU/Linux and still largely works and handles like Debian GNU/Linux. All the way to the “app store” being nothing but a pretty frontend for the apt package manager.
People who bought the Nokia N900 also bought second-hand IBM ThinkPad T43 or T60 business laptops with no operating system on them, just to install some Linux distro. No matter how much better a MacBook Air looked. No matter if almost everyone else was gushing over Windows 7 back then.
They also bought Linksys WRT54GL routers with the very intent to replace the stock firmware with OpenWrt, a firmware that offers professional industry-grade features, but that doesn't even have a Web interface. If you take your phone to ssh into your router and configure or upgrade it or check the logs, a hardware keyboard is much more convenient than a sleek design.
They also bought tickets to the annual Chaos Communication Congress.
Many of them bought the first Jolla Phone, hoping that they could acquire a TOHKBD, a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard that could be attached to the bottom of the phone instead of its own stock bottom, The Other Half. They were disappointed that the Nokia N950 didn't go into mass-production.
Some of those who missed both the first Jolla phone and the community-issued Jolla C opted for a grey-import Intex Aqua Fish, made in India for India, because it was basically a Jolla C without The Other Half that didn't even know it was actually a Jolla C. Not few of them hacked their Aqua Fish so it thought it's a Jolla C, and so they'd get system upgrades earlier.
The new Jolla Phone is an up-to-date take on the same principle as the old Jolla Phone. All the way up to The Other Half. Like, it's one of its key features that the bottom can be removed without exposing any circuitry, and that a third-party replacement with extra features can be attached, e.g. an additional battery or a more high-end camera or a slide-out hardware keyboard.
However, this requires the bottom half of the phone to be easily removeable. With an iPhone-like case, this isn't possible. Also, this requires the bottom half of the phone to have a rather simple shape so that any third-party Other Half matches the top in shape, and so that it's easy to manufacture. Other Halves are usually made by people in their spare time in small batches and never by big corporations.
By the way: If you expect the Jolla Phone to have anywhere close to as many apps, especially commercial apps, as the iPhone or a typical Android phone, you'll be disappointed, too. Literally all third-party apps available for Sailfish OS are free-as-in-freedom and open-source. And there's no Google Play Store.
Bottom line: Don't expect a MacBook Air from Tuxedo Computers. And don't expect Arch Linux to be every bit as “user-friendly” as Windows 10 or iOS.
@jolla
#Jolla #Jolla Phone #Jolla C #Nokia N900 #Nokia N9 #Intex Aqua Fish #Linux #GNU/Linux #Maemo #Sailfish OS -
@Martina NeumayerThis is supposed to be a phone that women will also use
You honestly think that every smartphone out there has the same target audience as the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy?
This is supposed to be a phone that geeks will use first and foremost. The most hardcore of them. The direct opposite of “tech-illiterate”.
In case you didn't know: The new Jolla Phone is From The Makers Of™ the first Jolla Phone. And the Nokia N9. They were all targetted at the same audience who actually bought the direct predecessor of the N9, the Nokia N900.
I mean, look at the N900. Now, look at the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 which came out before and after the N900. Notice how thick and clunky the N900 is in comparison especially with the iPhone 4? Why would someone buy that?
Because it ran Maemo. And because it had a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard.
Why would someone want that operating system if there were thousands of times more apps available for iOS?
Because Maemo is a fork of Debian GNU/Linux and still largely works and handles like Debian GNU/Linux. All the way to the “app store” being nothing but a pretty frontend for the apt package manager.
People who bought the Nokia N900 also bought second-hand IBM ThinkPad T43 or T60 business laptops with no operating system on them, just to install some Linux distro. No matter how much better a MacBook Air looked. No matter if almost everyone else was gushing over Windows 7 back then.
They also bought Linksys WRT54GL routers with the very intent to replace the stock firmware with OpenWrt, a firmware that offers professional industry-grade features, but that doesn't even have a Web interface. If you take your phone to ssh into your router and configure or upgrade it or check the logs, a hardware keyboard is much more convenient than a sleek design.
They also bought tickets to the annual Chaos Communication Congress.
Many of them bought the first Jolla Phone, hoping that they could acquire a TOHKBD, a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard that could be attached to the bottom of the phone instead of its own stock bottom, The Other Half. They were disappointed that the Nokia N950 didn't go into mass-production.
Some of those who missed both the first Jolla phone and the community-issued Jolla C opted for a grey-import Intex Aqua Fish, made in India for India, because it was basically a Jolla C without The Other Half that didn't even know it was actually a Jolla C. Not few of them hacked their Aqua Fish so it thought it's a Jolla C, and so they'd get system upgrades earlier.
The new Jolla Phone is an up-to-date take on the same principle as the old Jolla Phone. All the way up to The Other Half. Like, it's one of its key features that the bottom can be removed without exposing any circuitry, and that a third-party replacement with extra features can be attached, e.g. an additional battery or a more high-end camera or a slide-out hardware keyboard.
However, this requires the bottom half of the phone to be easily removeable. With an iPhone-like case, this isn't possible. Also, this requires the bottom half of the phone to have a rather simple shape so that any third-party Other Half matches the top in shape, and so that it's easy to manufacture. Other Halves are usually made by people in their spare time in small batches and never by big corporations.
By the way: If you expect the Jolla Phone to have anywhere close to as many apps, especially commercial apps, as the iPhone or a typical Android phone, you'll be disappointed, too. Literally all third-party apps available for Sailfish OS are free-as-in-freedom and open-source. And there's no Google Play Store.
Bottom line: Don't expect a MacBook Air from Tuxedo Computers. And don't expect Arch Linux to be every bit as “user-friendly” as Windows 10 or iOS.
@jolla
#Jolla #Jolla Phone #Jolla C #Nokia N900 #Nokia N9 #Intex Aqua Fish #Linux #GNU/Linux #Maemo #Sailfish OS -
@Martina NeumayerThis is supposed to be a phone that women will also use
You honestly think that every smartphone out there has the same target audience as the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy?
This is supposed to be a phone that geeks will use first and foremost. The most hardcore of them. The direct opposite of “tech-illiterate”.
In case you didn't know: The new Jolla Phone is From The Makers Of™ the first Jolla Phone. And the Nokia N9. They were all targetted at the same audience who actually bought the direct predecessor of the N9, the Nokia N900.
I mean, look at the N900. Now, look at the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 which came out before and after the N900. Notice how thick and clunky the N900 is in comparison especially with the iPhone 4? Why would someone buy that?
Because it ran Maemo. And because it had a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard.
Why would someone want that operating system if there were thousands of times more apps available for iOS?
Because Maemo is a fork of Debian GNU/Linux and still largely works and handles like Debian GNU/Linux. All the way to the “app store” being nothing but a pretty frontend for the apt package manager.
People who bought the Nokia N900 also bought second-hand IBM ThinkPad T43 or T60 business laptops with no operating system on them, just to install some Linux distro. No matter how much better a MacBook Air looked. No matter if almost everyone else was gushing over Windows 7 back then.
They also bought Linksys WRT54GL routers with the very intent to replace the stock firmware with OpenWrt, a firmware that offers professional industry-grade features, but that doesn't even have a Web interface. If you take your phone to ssh into your router and configure or upgrade it or check the logs, a hardware keyboard is much more convenient than a sleek design.
They also bought tickets to the annual Chaos Communication Congress.
Many of them bought the first Jolla Phone, hoping that they could acquire a TOHKBD, a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard that could be attached to the bottom of the phone instead of its own stock bottom, The Other Half. They were disappointed that the Nokia N950 didn't go into mass-production.
Some of those who missed both the first Jolla phone and the community-issued Jolla C opted for a grey-import Intex Aqua Fish, made in India for India, because it was basically a Jolla C without The Other Half that didn't even know it was actually a Jolla C. Not few of them hacked their Aqua Fish so it thought it's a Jolla C, and so they'd get system upgrades earlier.
The new Jolla Phone is an up-to-date take on the same principle as the old Jolla Phone. All the way up to The Other Half. Like, it's one of its key features that the bottom can be removed without exposing any circuitry, and that a third-party replacement with extra features can be attached, e.g. an additional battery or a more high-end camera or a slide-out hardware keyboard.
However, this requires the bottom half of the phone to be easily removeable. With an iPhone-like case, this isn't possible. Also, this requires the bottom half of the phone to have a rather simple shape so that any third-party Other Half matches the top in shape, and so that it's easy to manufacture. Other Halves are usually made by people in their spare time in small batches and never by big corporations.
By the way: If you expect the Jolla Phone to have anywhere close to as many apps, especially commercial apps, as the iPhone or a typical Android phone, you'll be disappointed, too. Literally all third-party apps available for Sailfish OS are free-as-in-freedom and open-source. And there's no Google Play Store.
Bottom line: Don't expect a MacBook Air from Tuxedo Computers. And don't expect Arch Linux to be every bit as “user-friendly” as Windows 10 or iOS.
@jolla
#Jolla #Jolla Phone #Jolla C #Nokia N900 #Nokia N9 #Intex Aqua Fish #Linux #GNU/Linux #Maemo #Sailfish OS -
@Martina NeumayerThis is supposed to be a phone that women will also use
You honestly think that every smartphone out there has the same target audience as the Apple iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy?
This is supposed to be a phone that geeks will use first and foremost. The most hardcore of them. The direct opposite of “tech-illiterate”.
In case you didn't know: The new Jolla Phone is From The Makers Of™ the first Jolla Phone. And the Nokia N9. They were all targetted at the same audience who actually bought the direct predecessor of the N9, the Nokia N900.
I mean, look at the N900. Now, look at the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 which came out before and after the N900. Notice how thick and clunky the N900 is in comparison especially with the iPhone 4? Why would someone buy that?
Because it ran Maemo. And because it had a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard.
Why would someone want that operating system if there were thousands of times more apps available for iOS?
Because Maemo is a fork of Debian GNU/Linux and still largely works and handles like Debian GNU/Linux. All the way to the “app store” being nothing but a pretty frontend for the apt package manager.
People who bought the Nokia N900 also bought second-hand IBM ThinkPad T43 or T60 business laptops with no operating system on them, just to install some Linux distro. No matter how much better a MacBook Air looked. No matter if almost everyone else was gushing over Windows 7 back then.
They also bought Linksys WRT54GL routers with the very intent to replace the stock firmware with OpenWrt, a firmware that offers professional industry-grade features, but that doesn't even have a Web interface. If you take your phone to ssh into your router and configure or upgrade it or check the logs, a hardware keyboard is much more convenient than a sleek design.
They also bought tickets to the annual Chaos Communication Congress.
Many of them bought the first Jolla Phone, hoping that they could acquire a TOHKBD, a slide-out hardware QWERTY keyboard that could be attached to the bottom of the phone instead of its own stock bottom, The Other Half. They were disappointed that the Nokia N950 didn't go into mass-production.
Some of those who missed both the first Jolla phone and the community-issued Jolla C opted for a grey-import Intex Aqua Fish, made in India for India, because it was basically a Jolla C without The Other Half that didn't even know it was actually a Jolla C. Not few of them hacked their Aqua Fish so it thought it's a Jolla C, and so they'd get system upgrades earlier.
The new Jolla Phone is an up-to-date take on the same principle as the old Jolla Phone. All the way up to The Other Half. Like, it's one of its key features that the bottom can be removed without exposing any circuitry, and that a third-party replacement with extra features can be attached, e.g. an additional battery or a more high-end camera or a slide-out hardware keyboard.
However, this requires the bottom half of the phone to be easily removeable. With an iPhone-like case, this isn't possible. Also, this requires the bottom half of the phone to have a rather simple shape so that any third-party Other Half matches the top in shape, and so that it's easy to manufacture. Other Halves are usually made by people in their spare time in small batches and never by big corporations.
By the way: If you expect the Jolla Phone to have anywhere close to as many apps, especially commercial apps, as the iPhone or a typical Android phone, you'll be disappointed, too. Literally all third-party apps available for Sailfish OS are free-as-in-freedom and open-source. And there's no Google Play Store.
Bottom line: Don't expect a MacBook Air from Tuxedo Computers. And don't expect Arch Linux to be every bit as “user-friendly” as Windows 10 or iOS.
@jolla
#Jolla #Jolla Phone #Jolla C #Nokia N900 #Nokia N9 #Intex Aqua Fish #Linux #GNU/Linux #Maemo #Sailfish OS -
@jgibbon old or otherwise, I agree with your nitpicking list! :D
The original JP01 was just a joy to hold, with the two-halves design, great size (slightly bigger is ok, like the first community phone #JollaC, but not huge like C2), and laggy or not you just want to keep the phone in your hand. Not so with the #JollaC2 for reasons you stated.
Now that @jolla is planning the #nextgenjollaphone with input from community, there's hope for nicer HW to match #SailfishOS! https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone-update-11-25/25503
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@jgibbon old or otherwise, I agree with your nitpicking list! :D
The original JP01 was just a joy to hold, with the two-halves design, great size (slightly bigger is ok, like the first community phone #JollaC, but not huge like C2), and laggy or not you just want to keep the phone in your hand. Not so with the #JollaC2 for reasons you stated.
Now that @jolla is planning the #nextgenjollaphone with input from community, there's hope for nicer HW to match #SailfishOS! https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone-update-11-25/25503
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@jgibbon old or otherwise, I agree with your nitpicking list! :D
The original JP01 was just a joy to hold, with the two-halves design, great size (slightly bigger is ok, like the first community phone #JollaC, but not huge like C2), and laggy or not you just want to keep the phone in your hand. Not so with the #JollaC2 for reasons you stated.
Now that @jolla is planning the #nextgenjollaphone with input from community, there's hope for nicer HW to match #SailfishOS! https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone-update-11-25/25503
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@jgibbon old or otherwise, I agree with your nitpicking list! :D
The original JP01 was just a joy to hold, with the two-halves design, great size (slightly bigger is ok, like the first community phone #JollaC, but not huge like C2), and laggy or not you just want to keep the phone in your hand. Not so with the #JollaC2 for reasons you stated.
Now that @jolla is planning the #nextgenjollaphone with input from community, there's hope for nicer HW to match #SailfishOS! https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone-update-11-25/25503
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@jgibbon old or otherwise, I agree with your nitpicking list! :D
The original JP01 was just a joy to hold, with the two-halves design, great size (slightly bigger is ok, like the first community phone #JollaC, but not huge like C2), and laggy or not you just want to keep the phone in your hand. Not so with the #JollaC2 for reasons you stated.
Now that @jolla is planning the #nextgenjollaphone with input from community, there's hope for nicer HW to match #SailfishOS! https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone-update-11-25/25503
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Any recommendation on #JollaC (the OG model) or Intex Aqua Fish battery replacement? Intex BR2567BU became an unobtainium, and other solution involves a mod on the battery which I am afraid to do so. I don't want to throw away my otherwise-good-working Jolla C for this reason.
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Any recommendation on #JollaC (the OG model) or Intex Aqua Fish battery replacement? Intex BR2567BU became an unobtainium, and other solution involves a mod on the battery which I am afraid to do so. I don't want to throw away my otherwise-good-working Jolla C for this reason.
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Size matters.
Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?
Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.
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Size matters.
Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?
Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.
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Size matters.
Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?
Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.
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Size matters.
Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?
Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.
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Size matters.
Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?
Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.
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Sigh, now my #jollac gives a empty blurry homescreen only. I can ssh into it and can see that sailjaild won't start on boot (even if it is enabled and starts fine manually). Now what ? #sailfishos
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Sigh, now my #jollac gives a empty blurry homescreen only. I can ssh into it and can see that sailjaild won't start on boot (even if it is enabled and starts fine manually). Now what ? #sailfishos
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Sigh, now my #jollac gives a empty blurry homescreen only. I can ssh into it and can see that sailjaild won't start on boot (even if it is enabled and starts fine manually). Now what ? #sailfishos
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Sigh, now my #jollac gives a empty blurry homescreen only. I can ssh into it and can see that sailjaild won't start on boot (even if it is enabled and starts fine manually). Now what ? #sailfishos
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Sigh, now my #jollac gives a empty blurry homescreen only. I can ssh into it and can see that sailjaild won't start on boot (even if it is enabled and starts fine manually). Now what ? #sailfishos
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My current little #SailfishOS collection: #Jolla #Tablet, #Sony #XperiaXA2Ultra, Sony #Xperia10III (daily driver) and #JollaC on the right :)
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My current little #SailfishOS collection: #Jolla #Tablet, #Sony #XperiaXA2Ultra, Sony #Xperia10III (daily driver) and #JollaC on the right :)
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My #Jolla and #Fxtec devices running #SailfishOS.
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My #Jolla and #Fxtec devices running #SailfishOS.
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Riding on a wave of nostalgia, took out my #Jolla 1s and #JollaC (running various versions of #SailfishOS 2.x), performed factory resets, and updated all of them to the latest #Sailfish3. Took several hours, but they now feel like brand new devices. I miss the smaller screens!
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Riding on a wave of nostalgia, took out my #Jolla 1s and #JollaC (running various versions of #SailfishOS 2.x), performed factory resets, and updated all of them to the latest #Sailfish3. Took several hours, but they now feel like brand new devices. I miss the smaller screens!
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@cybette
My #SailfishOS device list:1. #Xperia10Plus
2. #JollaTablet
3. #JollaCBut at the moment i use none of them as daily driver... because the Jolla C is way to slow (browser) and the Xperia 10 Plus Duo Sim (like mine) has a really annoying touchscreen bug (https://together.jolla.com/question/225481/xperia-10-plus-ds-random-freezes/) :(
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@cybette
My #SailfishOS device list:1. #Xperia10Plus
2. #JollaTablet
3. #JollaCBut at the moment i use none of them as daily driver... because the Jolla C is way to slow (browser) and the Xperia 10 Plus Duo Sim (like mine) has a really annoying touchscreen bug (https://together.jolla.com/question/225481/xperia-10-plus-ds-random-freezes/) :(
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@cybette My #SailfishOS device history:
#Jolla1
#JollaC
#IntexAquaFish
#SonyXperiaX (NVRAM died, won't boot anymore)
#Gemini
#SonyXperiaXA2My favourite? Hard to say. I use the XA2 as my daily phone and I'm very happy with the battery life and all. The JollaC/Aqua Fish had very good speech quality IMO. This is important when standing in a noisy computer room.
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@cybette My #SailfishOS device history:
#Jolla1
#JollaC
#IntexAquaFish
#SonyXperiaX (NVRAM died, won't boot anymore)
#Gemini
#SonyXperiaXA2My favourite? Hard to say. I use the XA2 as my daily phone and I'm very happy with the battery life and all. The JollaC/Aqua Fish had very good speech quality IMO. This is important when standing in a noisy computer room.
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@cybette
I own a #Jolla1, #JollaC, #SonyXperiaX2.Pictured are the two Jollas, together with their grandad #NokiaN9.
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@cybette
I own a #Jolla1, #JollaC, #SonyXperiaX2.Pictured are the two Jollas, together with their grandad #NokiaN9.
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#SailfishOS devices I've had, listed chronologically, numbered by preference:
1. #Jolla1 (multiple)
2. #JollaTablet
2. #JollaC
2. #SonyXperiaX
1. #FxtecPro1(Yeah, they all mean a lot to me, hard to decide 😅)
How about you? Which ones do you have and what are your favourites?
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#SailfishOS devices I've had, listed chronologically, numbered by preference:
1. #Jolla1 (multiple)
2. #JollaTablet
2. #JollaC
2. #SonyXperiaX
1. #FxtecPro1(Yeah, they all mean a lot to me, hard to decide 😅)
How about you? Which ones do you have and what are your favourites?
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#SailfishOS devices I've had, listed chronologically, numbered by preference:
1. #Jolla1 (multiple)
2. #JollaTablet
2. #JollaC
2. #SonyXperiaX
1. #FxtecPro1(Yeah, they all mean a lot to me, hard to decide 😅)
How about you? Which ones do you have and what are your favourites?
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Goodbye Sailfish OS and Jolla
Already in September 2017 I migrated away from Sailfish OS and I am now using an Android phone. For me, this is the first time I left the niche market of alternative phone operating systems to go mainstream. Originally I used a Nokia dumb phone and then in 2009 got the Nokia N900 as my first smartphone with Maemo as OS, which was so much joy, easily extensible due to the […]
#android #jolla #jollac #lineageos #linux #motorola #motozplay #n9 #n900 #nokia #sailfish #sailfishos
https://raimue.blog/2018/01/09/goodbye-sailfish-os-and-jolla/