#hellosystem — Public Fediverse posts
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#Encuesta: De los #EntornosDeEscritorios más livianos para #GNULinux y la familia #BSD, ¿con cuál de estos cuatro te quedás?
#LXDE #LXQt #GNOME #MATE #Cinnamon #KDE #TDE #Trinity
#Escritorios #GNU #GNU_Linux #Linux #NetBSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #DragonFlyBSD #NomadBSD #MidnightBSD #GhostBSD #helloSystem #Distro #Distros #DistroGNU #DistrosGNU #DistribuciónGNU #DistribucionesGNU #DistribuciónLinux #DistribucionesLinux
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#FreeBSD got some well deserved mainstream coverage yesterday when the YouTube channel ExplainingComputers released a video about FreeBSD on the desktop - or to be more accurate: about FreeBSD desktop derivatives: #GhostBSD #NomadBSD #MidnightBSD #HelloSystem
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#FreeBSD got some well deserved mainstream coverage yesterday when the YouTube channel ExplainingComputers released a video about FreeBSD on the desktop - or to be more accurate: about FreeBSD desktop derivatives: #GhostBSD #NomadBSD #MidnightBSD #HelloSystem
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I need opinions for running helloSystem via bhyve. It's kinda cool to run Aqua UI with FreeBSD as the core.
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@eugenialoli thanks …
I'm not aware of explicit abandonment of helloSystem, although <https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases> the latest release was probably based on FreeBSD 13.1, which reached end of life in July 2023 <https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported/>.
Most memorable (a turn-off for me, and others): the imbalanced rampage about Wayland.
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@eugenialoli thanks …
I'm not aware of explicit abandonment of helloSystem, although <https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases> the latest release was probably based on FreeBSD 13.1, which reached end of life in July 2023 <https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported/>.
Most memorable (a turn-off for me, and others): the imbalanced rampage about Wayland.
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@gyptazy this was touching to read. I’ve never used #helloSystem, but I hope @probono is alright too.
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To sum up, I tried three #FreeBSD-based systems today.
Two were unusable:
#helloSystem (super quirky, very pre-alpha)
#nomadBSD (looks beautiful, barely runs from USB)
One was pretty good:
#GhostBSD (looks good, works well, everything well-integrated. Full upgrade in VM killed the system, but it might perform better on bare metal. Would try again. This seems like the easiest, fastest way to get a full-featured BSD desktop.)
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To sum up, I tried three #FreeBSD-based systems today.
Two were unusable:
#helloSystem (super quirky, very pre-alpha)
#nomadBSD (looks beautiful, barely runs from USB)
One was pretty good:
#GhostBSD (looks good, works well, everything well-integrated. Full upgrade in VM killed the system, but it might perform better on bare metal. Would try again. This seems like the easiest, fastest way to get a full-featured BSD desktop.)
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I am trying #helloSystem, which is a #FreeBSD-based desktop that seems to sort of, kind of look like a Macintosh desktop.
I don't think this is going to convince any Mac users to switch. It's pretty odd. I don't think a look-alike that is not a work-alike can get any traction with the MacOS crowd.
I mostly found it quite puzzling, though I was able to boot and install the system in a GNOME Boxes VM. I was warned by helloSystem after install that I needed to switch my VM to EFI booting, or some things wouldn't work. I have no idea how to do that. Not sure I want to know, either.
The system does work, and I'm going to play around with it a bit.
If you're looking for something *different*, this is it.
https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/ -
I am trying #helloSystem, which is a #FreeBSD-based desktop that seems to sort of, kind of look like a Macintosh desktop.
I don't think this is going to convince any Mac users to switch. It's pretty odd. I don't think a look-alike that is not a work-alike can get any traction with the MacOS crowd.
I mostly found it quite puzzling, though I was able to boot and install the system in a GNOME Boxes VM. I was warned by helloSystem after install that I needed to switch my VM to EFI booting, or some things wouldn't work. I have no idea how to do that. Not sure I want to know, either.
The system does work, and I'm going to play around with it a bit.
If you're looking for something *different*, this is it.
https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/ -
#helloSystem Publishes New Experimental Build Based On #FreeBSD 14.0 :freebsd:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/helloSystem-New-14.0-Experiment
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#helloSystem Publishes New Experimental Build Based On #FreeBSD 14.0 :freebsd:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/helloSystem-New-14.0-Experiment
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@Neirac
#hellosystem
ghostbsd.org, nomadBSD and the newest candidate: helloSystem! https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/ -
Decided to give #HelloSystem a try.
The hardware? A cheap AMD APU.
The result?
* UEFI boot is busted.
* Man pages depend on network access, but iwlwifi doesn't have firmware :blobfoxlurkglare:
* The language selector *suggests you have a fucking Raspberry Pi keyboard* so that it can figure out the language, can't be mouse-selected, can't be *keyboard selected*, and the only keybaord key that works is down-arrow, which defaults to French.I opened the issue tracker and discovered that it's a mess. Which I mean, fine, it's one guy from what I can tell?
he's very opinionated, too, and I believe follows me on fedi. I can appreciate some of the views but man does he collect some Really Shitty People as followers.
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Decided to give #HelloSystem a try.
The hardware? A cheap AMD APU.
The result?
* UEFI boot is busted.
* Man pages depend on network access, but iwlwifi doesn't have firmware :blobfoxlurkglare:
* The language selector *suggests you have a fucking Raspberry Pi keyboard* so that it can figure out the language, can't be mouse-selected, can't be *keyboard selected*, and the only keybaord key that works is down-arrow, which defaults to French.I opened the issue tracker and discovered that it's a mess. Which I mean, fine, it's one guy from what I can tell?
he's very opinionated, too, and I believe follows me on fedi. I can appreciate some of the views but man does he collect some Really Shitty People as followers.
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Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.
The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.
Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.
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Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.
The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.
Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.
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@Shmuly If I remember correctly, #hellosystem also has a live ISO: https://hellosystem.github.io/
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Experimental #helloSystem ISO based on #FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE is available for testing at https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases/tag/experimental-14.0. Known issue: No compositor (e.g., no drop shadows behind windows) on (some? all?) #nvidia GPUs. Reason so far unknown.
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Received my #Raspberry Pi 5 today, had to try #helloDesktop on it immediately. Next step: Get this to run on #FreeBSD. Eventually: Shall we try to get the full #helloSystem going there...?
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Experimental #helloSystem ISO based on #FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 is available for testing at https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases/tag/experimental-14.0
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@probono continuing the discussion from https://twitter.com/ed_maste/status/1722274872838295616,
Improving the new user experience is a focus area for the @FreeBSDFoundation for upcoming work, and there are a number of Foundation folks and people in the #FreeBSD community who expect to look at improving the installation experience, the process to get a graphical environment set up, etc.
My hope is to that we can have upstream in #FreeBSD the infrastructure and tools that projects like #helloSystem and #GhostBSD need.
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On #helloSystem 0.9.0 it sees all wi-fi networks but it won't connect to wi-fi. The status for my wi-fi says disconnected, I can't tell if it tries to connect or not. I select my wifi, type password, I try scanning, clock on Connect,vit shows no errors but status stays disconnected and never changes. @probono
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Is #helloSystem not going to upgrade until 14.1 release? I want to try helloSystem but not if it means being stuck on 13 branch for 2 years. It appears #FreeBSD 14 is implementing needed network hardware drivers for 2.5Gb.
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@mos_8502 @kevin ...only that the Super key is usually in a different physical location on the keyboard, which is why we have decided to use the Alt key as the Command key in #helloSystem
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@mos_8502 I'm not exactly a fan of D-Bus (I think it is way too complicated like many things originating from Gnome lately) but as of today it is what most applications use to populate the global menu. In #helloSystem we have put in a lot of work to get it going for Qt, Gtk2, Gtk3, Electron, Firefox, Chrome, and lately even Java apps. Maybe one could eventually do a very lightweight "bridge" that simulates the needed D-Bus interface to the applications... or something along those lines.
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@mos_8502 Cool! Are you targeting the global menu to also show menus for non-ObjC applications? How is it going to communicate with the applications? The menu in #helloSystem started out on LIVEstep a couple of years ago, but I wrote it in Qt rather than ObjC. And I found the documentation about global menus lacking overall. https://github.com/helloSystem/Menu