#hellosystem — Public Fediverse posts

#FreeBSD got some well deserved mainstream coverage yesterday when the YouTube channel ExplainingComputers released a video about FreeBSD on the desktop - or to be more accurate: about FreeBSD desktop derivatives: #GhostBSD #NomadBSD #MidnightBSD #HelloSystem

https://youtu.be/9Xm52v1D8qo?si=HsisQ_7Z_ojL9Pqx

I need opinions for running helloSystem via bhyve. It's kinda cool to run Aqua UI with FreeBSD as the core.

#hellosystem #bhyve

@eugenialoli thanks …

I'm not aware of explicit abandonment of helloSystem, although <https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/releases> the latest release was probably based on FreeBSD 13.1, which reached end of life in July 2023 <https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported/>.

Most memorable (a turn-off for me, and others): the imbalanced rampage about Wayland.

Cc @duncan_bayne

#FreeBSD #helloSystem

@gyptazy this was touching to read. I’ve never used #helloSystem, but I hope @probono is alright too.

To sum up, I tried three #FreeBSD-based systems today.

Two were unusable:

#helloSystem (super quirky, very pre-alpha)

#nomadBSD (looks beautiful, barely runs from USB)

One was pretty good:

#GhostBSD (looks good, works well, everything well-integrated. Full upgrade in VM killed the system, but it might perform better on bare metal. Would try again. This seems like the easiest, fastest way to get a full-featured BSD desktop.)

#BSD

I am trying #helloSystem, which is a #FreeBSD-based desktop that seems to sort of, kind of look like a Macintosh desktop.

I don't think this is going to convince any Mac users to switch. It's pretty odd. I don't think a look-alike that is not a work-alike can get any traction with the MacOS crowd.

I mostly found it quite puzzling, though I was able to boot and install the system in a GNOME Boxes VM. I was warned by helloSystem after install that I needed to switch my VM to EFI booting, or some things wouldn't work. I have no idea how to do that. Not sure I want to know, either.

The system does work, and I'm going to play around with it a bit.

If you're looking for something *different*, this is it.

https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/

Here is the list of OSs that I have attempted to install (with a DE) on my Intel #N100 #MiniPC and have failed thus far (not in an particular order):
1) #ClearLinux (will try again)
2) #GhostBSD
3) #NomadBSD
4) #FreeBSD
5) #MidnightBSD
6) #HelloSystem
7) #ReactOS
8) #OpenIndianaHiptster

*edit* I did successfully install #Haiku but I did not find it to be fun to play with.

#ClearLinux :clearlinux: was a bust; it got stuck on some SystemD thing.

Tried #HelloSystem again, but it was super buggy with installation.

Now I am trying #MidnightBSD. Hopefully this one works 🤞

#helloSystem Publishes New Experimental Build Based On #FreeBSD 14.0 :freebsd:

https://www.phoronix.com/news/helloSystem-New-14.0-Experiment

@Neirac
#hellosystem
ghostbsd.org, nomadBSD and the newest candidate: helloSystem! https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/

Decided to give #HelloSystem a try.

The hardware? A cheap AMD APU.

The result?

* UEFI boot is busted.
* Man pages depend on network access, but iwlwifi doesn't have firmware :blobfoxlurkglare:
* The language selector *suggests you have a fucking Raspberry Pi keyboard* so that it can figure out the language, can't be mouse-selected, can't be *keyboard selected*, and the only keybaord key that works is down-arrow, which defaults to French.

I opened the issue tracker and discovered that it's a mess. Which I mean, fine, it's one guy from what I can tell?

he's very opinionated, too, and I believe follows me on fedi. I can appreciate some of the views but man does he collect some Really Shitty People as followers.

For those following my #BSD saga here is the truncated version:
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1) #GhostBSD Community #XFCE version installed. Had some quirky issues, like gpu fans not working properly. Wanted to try something else.
2) Tried #MidnightBSD, “installed” then crashed on reboot
3) Tried #FreeBSD current, kept timing out and issues around pkg
4) Tried to install #HelloSystem but got stuck in a boot/restart loop
5) Got tired of tring to install BSD
6) Attempted to install #Haiku. Would not load onto SSD

@[email protected] welp, I am now downloading :ageblobcat: #HelloSystem

@nopatience

Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.

The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.

Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.

@nopatience

Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.

The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.

Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.

@nopatience

Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.

The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.

Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.

@nopatience

Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.

The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.

Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.

@nopatience

Lots of responses already but I want to make a suggestion to look at other alternatives too.

The #BSDs are a decent option too. Maybe slightly more involved depending on your hardware. I'd recommend #GhostBSD (more traditional feel), #helloSystem (more like old Macs) or any Linux distro really.

Could also try WSL on Windows if you want to try something else.

@neingeist @mirabilos @thunderbird Ich hab' auch schon von #MirBSD gehört, aber anders als #FreeBSD, #helloSystem #hardenedBSD, #OpenBSD, #NetBSD und #DragonflyBSD sowie #pfSense und #OPNsense es bisher noch nie ausprobiert...

@neingeist @mirabilos @thunderbird Ich hab' auch schon von #MirBSD gehört, aber anders als #FreeBSD, #helloSystem #hardenedBSD, #OpenBSD, #NetBSD und #DragonflyBSD sowie #pfSense und #OPNsense es bisher noch nie ausprobiert...

@neingeist @mirabilos @thunderbird Ich hab' auch schon von #MirBSD gehört, aber anders als #FreeBSD, #helloSystem #hardenedBSD, #OpenBSD, #NetBSD und #DragonflyBSD sowie #pfSense und #OPNsense es bisher noch nie ausprobiert...

@thomholwerda i don't think so. I too don't like the approach of #AppImage|s, #Flatpak (,...) but if you have for example a #immutable installation (#RedHat silverblue, #SteamOS,...) you can't use apt, rpm, deb (...). So you either have to use #homebrew or something like that => or use Flatpak (...).
Since i like the #AppBundle approach from for example #macOS or #helloSystem i would love to see something like that for linux, too.

@thomholwerda i don't think so. I too don't like the approach of #AppImage|s, #Flatpak (,...) but if you have for example a #immutable installation (#RedHat silverblue, #SteamOS,...) you can't use apt, rpm, deb (...). So you either have to use #homebrew or something like that => or use Flatpak (...).
Since i like the #AppBundle approach from for example #macOS or #helloSystem i would love to see something like that for linux, too.

@thomholwerda i don't think so. I too don't like the approach of #AppImage|s, #Flatpak (,...) but if you have for example a #immutable installation (#RedHat silverblue, #SteamOS,...) you can't use apt, rpm, deb (...). So you either have to use #homebrew or something like that => or use Flatpak (...).
Since i like the #AppBundle approach from for example #macOS or #helloSystem i would love to see something like that for linux, too.

@thomholwerda i don't think so. I too don't like the approach of #AppImage|s, #Flatpak (,...) but if you have for example a #immutable installation (#RedHat silverblue, #SteamOS,...) you can't use apt, rpm, deb (...). So you either have to use #homebrew or something like that => or use Flatpak (...).
Since i like the #AppBundle approach from for example #macOS or #helloSystem i would love to see something like that for linux, too.

@thomholwerda i don't think so. I too don't like the approach of #AppImage|s, #Flatpak (,...) but if you have for example a #immutable installation (#RedHat silverblue, #SteamOS,...) you can't use apt, rpm, deb (...). So you either have to use #homebrew or something like that => or use Flatpak (...).
Since i like the #AppBundle approach from for example #macOS or #helloSystem i would love to see something like that for linux, too.

@limi I bought a Power Mac G4 MDD last week. So I now have a very well working and fast Mac OS X 10.5 machine :)

#hellosystem is the closest if you want something like that on modern hardware. But #Audion, #AppleWorks, #Transmit, … all the stuff that makes this old Mac OS so great besides the system core is missing today.

#retrocomputing #MacOSX #unix

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