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Dodane do bazy: Macaroni OS. Macaroni OS to dystrybucja Linuksa powstała jako projekt inkubacyjny pod parasolem opartego na kodzie źródłowym Funtoo Linux, opracowuje szereg binarnych systemów operacyjnych Linux dla komputerów stacjonarnych, serwerów i kontenerów. https://linuxiarze.pl/distro-macaronios/ #linux #gentoo #funtoo

Dodane do bazy: Vipnix. Vipnix LiveCD to przenośna dystrybucja Linuksa oparta na spuściźnie Gentoo Linux, Funtoo i Macaroni OS. https://linuxiarze.pl/distro-vipnix/ #linux #gentoo #funtoo

The PopOS beta is fine; doesn’t really hold my interest to keep it.

After hunting around on #DistroWatch I came across #MacaroniOS. Just by name alone it peaked my interest; plus it looks to be #Gentoo/#Funtoo based

Hey #linux community, I ask of you all yet again. I wanna know some fun, chaotic, weird, random Linux distros.

For now I've got #nixos, #vanillaos, #funtoo, #mxlinux, #qubes, #antix, & #puppylinux on a quick Google search.

It's been almost 2 years since I touched NixOS so might as well play around with it again.

I'll start googling up some more & I'm also gonna be looking on #distrowatch later but I gotta go eat my midnight snacks, lol.

Again, no #linuxfromscratch / #lfs. That's for laters!

Yes source based distro's have been around since the very beginning - in fact, MCC Interim Linux and #SLS weren't far from that mark, except that they merely tried to make it a bit more convenient by packaging up tarballs to be exploded during installation. And there's always #LFS.

If you think about Slackpkg - and you consider that you can actually re-install the entire system by compiling every single component of the default (full) install with the evocation of a single command, followed by the customization of your entire system by installing every kind of software imaginable through the use of #sbopkg or some other automated, dependency resolving package manager that uses #SlackBuilds (which are downloaded, then exectuted, and subsequently download the latest release of he software package desired, which is in turn compiled, packaged, and exploded) - you actually have a fully source based distro installed on your box.

That's right - Slackware is (can be forced to be) an entirely source based distro installed on your device.

And choosing to convert from a point release to Slackware -current switches you from a point release to a #Rolling_Release distro.

*Debian Testing, aka at this time, Trixie is a rolling release. #Arch_Linux is a rolling release, SourceMage and Lunar Linux are source based distros based on #Sorcerer_Linux, the original fully source based Linux distro released when Linux was only about 8yrs old in 2000, and the #Gentoo or #Funtoo source based Linux distros.

SystemD my ass. That has nothing to do with nothing in that conversation - it's completely non-sequitur and truth be told, most source based distros (Arch, Gentoo) support the type of init system that *YOU CHOOSE. For Debiantards such as myself, well..... There's #Devuan - and that's very refreshing to actually have control over your system again with true init scripts. But I rarely use Devuan, even though I've been associated with the initiative since its inception, after leaving the #Mageia team several years ago.

As I state in almost all of my profiles, I'm a Slacker, since 1993 (Slackware Linux), and I'm also a bit of a #Debiantard. On the BSD side, after leaving #Jolix (386BSD) for Slackware, I've pretty much settled on either #OpenBSD or #Dragonfly_BSD, w/the awesome #HAMMER2 FS. I still have a lot of love for #FreeBSD and of course #NetBSD - where I spend a lot of time in my proper #Korn Shell....

But what the heck does any of this have to do with a comparison of using Gentoo Linux being akin to using SystemD?

I don't like SystemD - but if you're a realist, that doesn't mean you forgo using distros that only have that init tooling. You just roll with the punches and keep following the innovations that support you - NO ONE STILL RUNS WINDOWS XP in production - at least, no one outside of state mental hospitals, that's just insane to do in a forward facing business environment.

But a lot of companies do leverage OpenRC, SysVinit, etc., instead of SystemD - that's not going away, and SystemD itself and Poetering have their own up and coming challengers.

SystemD is (supposed to be, originally) a way to boot your box. Yes, it's indeed encroached upon other landscapes since, but not all of those constructs are even considered by many mainstream distros - it's not a fact of life. Other init systems thrive in the UNIX world to this day and will continue to do so.

Likewise, Source based Linux distros are just one among many distros that exist, and may or may not leverage SystemD as their init systems - to really get a good grasp of this, I recommend doing a few Arch Linux installs - with and without SystemD as the base init system. Heck, even Debian still supports your regular, good old #syslog, and at every turn during your updates, reminds you how to keep it enabled since the whole journalctl crap just isn't as elegant, IMO.

Personally, I think more concurrent options are usually better - space is cheap. Storage no longer costs a dollar a meg. or worse, like it was when I was a kid, a few thousand dollars a meg. That's right... MegaByte - Not TB for penny's!

Okay so now I'm waiting to hear back from the OP and see just what the heck they meant when I got triggered. In the meantime....

Enjoy installing and using #Sorcerer_Linux, or the subesquent forks of it's surviving lineage like #SourceMage and #Lunar_Linux - you're now a part of mainstream source-basedLinux History once you do 🤘 💀 🤘

#tallship #Linux #FOSS #distros #Sorcerer

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RE: https://social.sdf.org/users/tallship/statuses/111957857148746923

@tallship

Any suggestion about Gentoo Linux?
I know Gentoo, but haven't used it that much.

Is Gentoo can be reliable for low spec's machine as long the program code isn't sucks right?

I want to use an old machine (2C/2T CPU with 3GB of RAM) to become reliable in my own production but still keep relevant to the newest certain software that I use.

I'm, okay to wait for the compilation as long it doesn't take for hours of time

#Gentoo #Linux #suckless #lowtechhardware #x86 #x86_64 #i686 #Funtoo

Yes source based distro's have been around since the very beginning - in fact, MCC Interim Linux and #SLS weren't far from that mark, except that they merely tried to make it a bit more convenient by packaging up tarballs to be exploded during installation. And there's always #LFS.

If you think about Slackpkg - and you consider that you can actually re-install the entire system by compiling every single component of the default (full) install with the evocation of a single command, followed by the customization of your entire system by installing every kind of software imaginable through the use of #sbopkg or some other automated, dependency resolving package manager that uses #SlackBuilds (which are downloaded, then exectuted, and subsequently download the latest release of he software package desired, which is in turn compiled, packaged, and exploded) - you actually have a fully source based distro installed on your box.

That's right - Slackware is (can be forced to be) an entirely source based distro installed on your device.

And choosing to convert from a point release to Slackware -current switches you from a point release to a #Rolling_Release distro.

*Debian Testing, aka at this time, Trixie is a rolling release. #Arch_Linux is a rolling release, SourceMage and Lunar Linux are source based distros based on #Sorcerer_Linux, the original fully source based Linux distro released when Linux was only about 8yrs old in 2000, and the #Gentoo or #Funtoo source based Linux distros.

SystemD my ass. That has nothing to do with nothing in that conversation - it's completely non-sequitur and truth be told, most source based distros (Arch, Gentoo) support the type of init system that *YOU CHOOSE. For Debiantards such as myself, well..... There's #Devuan - and that's very refreshing to actually have control over your system again with true init scripts. But I rarely use Devuan, even though I've been associated with the initiative since its inception, after leaving the #Mageia team several years ago.

As I state in almost all of my profiles, I'm a Slacker, since 1993 (Slackware Linux), and I'm also a bit of a #Debiantard. On the BSD side, after leaving #Jolix (386BSD) for Slackware, I've pretty much settled on either #OpenBSD or #Dragonfly_BSD, w/the awesome #HAMMER2 FS. I still have a lot of love for #FreeBSD and of course #NetBSD - where I spend a lot of time in my proper #Korn Shell....

But what the heck does any of this have to do with a comparison of using Gentoo Linux being akin to using SystemD?

I don't like SystemD - but if you're a realist, that doesn't mean you forgo using distros that only have that init tooling. You just roll with the punches and keep following the innovations that support you - NO ONE STILL RUNS WINDOWS XP in production - at least, no one outside of state mental hospitals, that's just insane to do in a forward facing business environment.

But a lot of companies do leverage OpenRC, SysVinit, etc., instead of SystemD - that's not going away, and SystemD itself and Poetering have their own up and coming challengers.

SystemD is (supposed to be, originally) a way to boot your box. Yes, it's indeed encroached upon other landscapes since, but not all of those constructs are even considered by many mainstream distros - it's not a fact of life. Other init systems thrive in the UNIX world to this day and will continue to do so.

Likewise, Source based Linux distros are just one among many distros that exist, and may or may not leverage SystemD as their init systems - to really get a good grasp of this, I recommend doing a few Arch Linux installs - with and without SystemD as the base init system. Heck, even Debian still supports your regular, good old #syslog, and at every turn during your updates, reminds you how to keep it enabled since the whole journalctl crap just isn't as elegant, IMO.

Personally, I think more concurrent options are usually better - space is cheap. Storage no longer costs a dollar a meg. or worse, like it was when I was a kid, a few thousand dollars a meg. That's right... MegaByte - Not TB for penny's!

Okay so now I'm waiting to hear back from the OP and see just what the heck they meant when I got triggered. In the meantime....

Enjoy installing and using #Sorcerer_Linux, or the subesquent forks of it's surviving lineage like #SourceMage and #Lunar_Linux - you're now a part of mainstream source-basedLinux History once you do 🤘 💀 🤘

#tallship #Linux #FOSS #distros #Sorcerer

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RE: https://social.sdf.org/users/tallship/statuses/111957857148746923

@tallship

Yes source based distro's have been around since the very beginning - in fact, MCC Interim Linux and #SLS weren't far from that mark, except that they merely tried to make it a bit more convenient by packaging up tarballs to be exploded during installation. And there's always #LFS.

If you think about Slackpkg - and you consider that you can actually re-install the entire system by compiling every single component of the default (full) install with the evocation of a single command, followed by the customization of your entire system by installing every kind of software imaginable through the use of #sbopkg or some other automated, dependency resolving package manager that uses #SlackBuilds (which are downloaded, then exectuted, and subsequently download the latest release of he software package desired, which is in turn compiled, packaged, and exploded) - you actually have a fully source based distro installed on your box.

That's right - Slackware is (can be forced to be) an entirely source based distro installed on your device.

And choosing to convert from a point release to Slackware -current switches you from a point release to a #Rolling_Release distro.

*Debian Testing, aka at this time, Trixie is a rolling release. #Arch_Linux is a rolling release, SourceMage and Lunar Linux are source based distros based on #Sorcerer_Linux, the original fully source based Linux distro released when Linux was only about 8yrs old in 2000, and the #Gentoo or #Funtoo source based Linux distros.

SystemD my ass. That has nothing to do with nothing in that conversation - it's completely non-sequitur and truth be told, most source based distros (Arch, Gentoo) support the type of init system that *YOU CHOOSE. For Debiantards such as myself, well..... There's #Devuan - and that's very refreshing to actually have control over your system again with true init scripts. But I rarely use Devuan, even though I've been associated with the initiative since its inception, after leaving the #Mageia team several years ago.

As I state in almost all of my profiles, I'm a Slacker, since 1993 (Slackware Linux), and I'm also a bit of a #Debiantard. On the BSD side, after leaving #Jolix (386BSD) for Slackware, I've pretty much settled on either #OpenBSD or #Dragonfly_BSD, w/the awesome #HAMMER2 FS. I still have a lot of love for #FreeBSD and of course #NetBSD - where I spend a lot of time in my proper #Korn Shell....

But what the heck does any of this have to do with a comparison of using Gentoo Linux being akin to using SystemD?

I don't like SystemD - but if you're a realist, that doesn't mean you forgo using distros that only have that init tooling. You just roll with the punches and keep following the innovations that support you - NO ONE STILL RUNS WINDOWS XP in production - at least, no one outside of state mental hospitals, that's just insane to do in a forward facing business environment.

But a lot of companies do leverage OpenRC, SysVinit, etc., instead of SystemD - that's not going away, and SystemD itself and Poetering have their own up and coming challengers.

SystemD is (supposed to be, originally) a way to boot your box. Yes, it's indeed encroached upon other landscapes since, but not all of those constructs are even considered by many mainstream distros - it's not a fact of life. Other init systems thrive in the UNIX world to this day and will continue to do so.

Likewise, Source based Linux distros are just one among many distros that exist, and may or may not leverage SystemD as their init systems - to really get a good grasp of this, I recommend doing a few Arch Linux installs - with and without SystemD as the base init system. Heck, even Debian still supports your regular, good old #syslog, and at every turn during your updates, reminds you how to keep it enabled since the whole journalctl crap just isn't as elegant, IMO.

Personally, I think more concurrent options are usually better - space is cheap. Storage no longer costs a dollar a meg. or worse, like it was when I was a kid, a few thousand dollars a meg. That's right... MegaByte - Not TB for penny's!

Okay so now I'm waiting to hear back from the OP and see just what the heck they meant when I got triggered. In the meantime....

Enjoy installing and using #Sorcerer_Linux, or the subesquent forks of it's surviving lineage like #SourceMage and #Lunar_Linux - you're now a part of mainstream source-basedLinux History once you do 🤘 💀 🤘

#tallship #Linux #FOSS #distros #Sorcerer

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RE: https://social.sdf.org/users/tallship/statuses/111957857148746923

@tallship

Destination Linux | Episode 104 – "Super Tux Mojo"

Announcement for Linux 5.0. They check out some new releases for Funtoo Linux, UBports’ Ubuntu Touch, Tilix and more.

Later on in the show, they talk about some news from CES, an ALL-in-One PC from Entroware and then some Linux Gaming news.

+much more: Tips, Tricks and Software Spotlight picks!

==> https://youtu.be/lMEwCCbLC5o
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#DestinationLinux #LinuxPodcast #podcasting #Linux #Tux #UBports #Entroware #Funtoo #Tilix #CES @DestinationLinux

So my #funtoo development notenook was powered off for a while, let's see what will break when I update today.

#linuxdev

Last month, Daniel Robbins announced the cessation of Funtoo Linux; however, he has now decided to switch the project to "Hobby Mode" instead.
https://linuxiac.com/robbins-changed-his-mind-funtoo-shift-to-hobby-mode/

#funtoo #gentoo #linux

Funtoo – a Linux distribution created on the top of Gentoo in 2008 by the former leader of the Gentoo project https://archiveos.org/funtoo/ #linux #gentoo #funtoo

Funtoo Linux is Being Discontinued! Time to Look for Alternatives #Funtoo #Gentoo #Linux #EOL
https://ostechnix.com/funtoo-is-discontinued/

#Funtoo #Linux Project Being Discontinued?

https://linuxiac.com/funtoo-linux-project-being-discontinued/

Daniel Robbins ogłosił koniec #Funtoo. Cóż, jako ktoś, kto miał krótką nieprzyjemność pracować przy Funtoo, podzielę się z wami niezbyt popularną opinią: "przykro mi, ale nie jest mi przykro".

https://forums.funtoo.org/topic/5182-all-good-things-must-come-to-an-end/

Daniel Robbins opuścił #Gentoo, bo nie mógł znieść myśli, że projekt się rozrósł i nowi ludzie chcieli mieć coś do powiedzenia. Później próbował wrócił, więcej niż raz. Najlepiej to podsumowuje ten krótki post:

https://lwn.net/Articles/224615/

Wbrew nazwie, w Funtoo nie ma wiele zabawy. Kiedyś miało parę fajnych bajerów, w porównaniu do Gentoo. Lecz potem zaczęło zostawać w tyle, i w końcu przestało oferować użytkownikom realną przewagę nad Gentoo. Zamiast tego, skupiło się na hasłach marketingowych. Koniec końców, trudno nie myśleć, że Funtoo było kolejną próbą zarobienia na Gentoo.

Funtoo było niezwykle toksyczną dystrybucją. Czasem odnosiło się wrażenie, że jedyną rzeczą, która łączy głównych devów, jest nienawiść do Gentoo (z tej czy innej przyczyny). Nowi ludzie przychodzili, i równie szybko odchodzili. Daniel Robbins próbował też zatrudniać ludzi do pracy nad Funtoo (ze mną włącznie). Jak możecie sobie wyobrazić, był typem pracodawcy, który nigdy nie jest zadowolony z twojej pracy i zawsze znajdzie wymówkę, by nie zapłacić tego, co obiecał. Czy właśnie automatyczne pobieranie paczek z Gentoo zepsuło Funtoo? "Jesteś też devem Gentoo, to twoja wina!"

Więc: nie, nie jest mi przykro, że Funtoo się kończy. Przynajmniej już nie będzie próbowało nikogo ściągnąć do toksycznego, na wpół martwego forku Gentoo, zbudowanego na marketingowym bełkocie. Mam tylko nadzieję, że Daniel Robbins nie będzie znów próbował wrócić do Gentoo.

Daniel Robbins announced the end of #Funtoo. Well, as someone who had the short unpleasantness of working on Funtoo, I'm going to share an unpopular opinion: "sorry, but I'm not sorry".

https://forums.funtoo.org/topic/5182-all-good-things-must-come-to-an-end/

Daniel Robbins left #Gentoo, because he couldn't stand the idea that the project grew and people wanted a say too. He tried coming back, more than once. This post is one of the great summaries of the situation:

https://lwn.net/Articles/224615/

While Funtoo sounds like fun, it really wasn't. Sure, back in the day, it had some cool hacks on top of Gentoo. But then it started falling behind. Over time, it stopped offering users real advantages over Gentoo, and focused on buzzwords instead. In the end, it's hard not to feel that eventually, it was just another attempt to monetize on Gentoo.

Funtoo was an inherently toxic place. There were times when you felt that the only thing keeping the core developers together was hatred for Gentoo (for one reason or another). So while new people came, they soon left the project. Daniel Robbins also tried hiring developers to work on Funtoo (myself included), but as you can probably guess, he was the kind of employer who was never satisfied with your work and always found justifications not to actually pay what he owe. Did automatic pull from Gentoo just break Funtoo? "You're a Gentoo dev too, it's all your fault!"

So, no, I'm not sorry that the story of Funtoo ends here. At least people won't be lured into a toxic, half-dead buzzword Gentoo fork. I just hope Daniel Robbins won't try to come back to Gentoo again now.

Daniel Robbins is killing off #Funtoo #Linux. He announced it on Discord, but the official site has yet to be updated.

The project will officially be dead the end of August, or in about five weeks.

@docRekd thanks. I just saw that one (re-toot below) and it got me curious. Was considering trying NixOs for a while now (currently using #gentoo for ages with brief switch to #funtoo till got in a fight with Robbins, cause of, ironically, single person of decision and no proper roadmap), but seems it is not good timing now 😅

https://hachyderm.io/@jakehamilton/112355361353931366

My poor #Librem13 is suffering today. I am rebuilding my #funtoo VM an emerging the world on the laptop itself.

TIL Funtoo https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funtoo #funtoo #linux

Slowly getting back into #Funtoo #Linux work.

Well, it seems that #MocaccinoOS won't be doing business with #Funtoo after all. There will be another project doing that…

https://github.com/mocaccinoOS/mocaccino/releases/tag/v1.0
https://www.macaronios.org/

#Gentoo #Linux

#ActuLibre En vrac’ de fin de semaine -> http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/?p=20489 #Vrac'attitudes! #PJSLeatherCraft #logiciellibre #Informatique #manjarolinux #Trucsdegeek #EndeavourOS #Libreries #geekeries #logiciel #Culture #funtoo #libre #linux #vrac

#ActuLibre En vrac’ de fin de semaine -> http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/?p=20489 #Vrac'attitudes! #PJSLeatherCraft #logiciellibre #Informatique #manjarolinux #Trucsdegeek #EndeavourOS #Libreries #geekeries #logiciel #Culture #funtoo #libre #linux #vrac