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#lispyGopherClimate @kentpitman #live #interview #computerScience #programming #lisp #commonLisp #python with some special announcements and releases.
#teco #emacs #conditionshttps://archives.anonradio.net/202502120000_screwtape.mp3
#archive Thanks for the incredible interview and livechat everyone!
Interview 1 / ?
Please drop questions here beforehand or join us live in #lambdaMOO as always !
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I'm a bit worried that technical gremlins are eating https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio (where is everybody) and I'm quite looking forward to ^ live interview. If you can, could you please boost over/in the next hour or so.
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@screwtape/113670481731400200
Yesterday's announcement toot:
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@screwtape/113666050682187320
#podcast #live #interview #lisp #medleyjoin #lambdaMOO to talk too
@interlisp @nosrednayduj @dougmerritt @jlamothe @alexshendi @rat @pkw @mdhughes @sacha @masinter @kentpitman @prahou
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#lispyGopherClimate #lisp #programming #podcast #live Wednesday 0UTC https://archives.anonradio.net/202503050000_screwtape.mp3
#climateCrisis #haiku and #risk #inequality #essay by @kentpitman
https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2013/08/lien-times-for-startups.html#libre #archive update from @hairylarry https://gamerplus.org/@hairylarry/114106383066762290
https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html
#ELS2025 submissions extended to Sunday. #LaTeX #ACM #primer / past #proceedingsNotes from my first #language #parser #commonLisp #mcclim #chess
If there are guests, there are guests(?)
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#LispyGopherClimate #lisp #ai #peertube
https://communitymedia.video/w/7KpDL8dmSMN7zH6TxEgQbbResurrected Sandewall's #softwareIndividuals from 2014.
This episode is dedicated to general purpose interaction in the software individual / #CAISOR paradigm.
Next will be porting the dynamicwindows zetalisp zwei to McCLIM #commonlisp.
@prahou #unix_surrealism next #openbsd release art??
Also @pesco and @dougmerritt on IPE '84
co guest and join in on #lambdaMOO as always!
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#lispygopherclimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202501220000_screwtape.mp3 #archive
#ClimateCrisis haiku/wildfires by @kentpitmanElectric (guitar) #music by @ksaj, community message from @TheGibson
Arrokoth #McClim Graphical adventure Game creation system #lisp
by five decade #gamedev veteran @mdhughes
#NUD #codegolf / adopting Arrokoth
@baruchel #lisp destructive permutation#mastobook club - Snow crash
#livechat in #lambdaMOO
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#lispyGopherClimate #podcast #archive https://archives.anonradio.net/202501150000_screwtape.mp3 0UTC Wed
#interview ing @shizamura author of the popular #scifi https://sarilho.net/en/ #comic#climateCrisis #haiku by @kentpitman
#liveChat in #lambdaMOO as always
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@join screwtape#Questions for @shizamura please!
#lisp, #fortran, #grammars, oh my.
#Murderbots #bookstodon @nosrednayduj @dougmerritt @ratxue @mdhughes I finally read 90% of it (no spoilers please)
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#lispygopherclimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202501220000_screwtape.mp3 #archive
#ClimateCrisis haiku/wildfires by @kentpitmanElectric (guitar) #music by @ksaj, community message from @TheGibson
Arrokoth #McClim Graphical adventure Game creation system #lisp
by five decade #gamedev veteran @mdhughes
#NUD #codegolf / adopting Arrokoth
@baruchel #lisp destructive permutation#mastobook club - Snow crash
#livechat in #lambdaMOO
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#lispygopherclimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202501220000_screwtape.mp3 #archive
#ClimateCrisis haiku/wildfires by @kentpitmanElectric (guitar) #music by @ksaj, community message from @TheGibson
Arrokoth #McClim Graphical adventure Game creation system #lisp
by five decade #gamedev veteran @mdhughes
#NUD #codegolf / adopting Arrokoth
@baruchel #lisp destructive permutation#mastobook club - Snow crash
#livechat in #lambdaMOO
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#lispygopherclimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202501220000_screwtape.mp3 #archive
#ClimateCrisis haiku/wildfires by @kentpitmanElectric (guitar) #music by @ksaj, community message from @TheGibson
Arrokoth #McClim Graphical adventure Game creation system #lisp
by five decade #gamedev veteran @mdhughes
#NUD #codegolf / adopting Arrokoth
@baruchel #lisp destructive permutation#mastobook club - Snow crash
#livechat in #lambdaMOO
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#lispygopherclimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202501220000_screwtape.mp3 #archive
#ClimateCrisis haiku/wildfires by @kentpitmanElectric (guitar) #music by @ksaj, community message from @TheGibson
Arrokoth #McClim Graphical adventure Game creation system #lisp
by five decade #gamedev veteran @mdhughes
#NUD #codegolf / adopting Arrokoth
@baruchel #lisp destructive permutation#mastobook club - Snow crash
#livechat in #lambdaMOO
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888
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#lispyGopherClimate #lisp #programming #podcast #live Wednesday 0UTC https://archives.anonradio.net/202503050000_screwtape.mp3
#climateCrisis #haiku and #risk #inequality #essay by @kentpitman
https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2013/08/lien-times-for-startups.html#libre #archive update from @hairylarry https://gamerplus.org/@hairylarry/114106383066762290
https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html
#ELS2025 submissions extended to Sunday. #LaTeX #ACM #primer / past #proceedingsNotes from my first #language #parser #commonLisp #mcclim #chess
If there are guests, there are guests(?)
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#lispyGopherClimate #lisp #programming #podcast #live Wednesday 0UTC https://archives.anonradio.net/202503050000_screwtape.mp3
#climateCrisis #haiku and #risk #inequality #essay by @kentpitman
https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2013/08/lien-times-for-startups.html#libre #archive update from @hairylarry https://gamerplus.org/@hairylarry/114106383066762290
https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html
#ELS2025 submissions extended to Sunday. #LaTeX #ACM #primer / past #proceedingsNotes from my first #language #parser #commonLisp #mcclim #chess
If there are guests, there are guests(?)
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#lispyGopherClimate #archived #unmitigatedDisaster https://archives.anonradio.net/202409250030_screwtape.mp3 000UTC every Wednesday
#climate #haiku @kentpitman#music @fstateaudio 's Skin Contact https://www.fstateaudio.com/
#lisp .. KMP's lost #zmacs port to #commonLisp, that thread with @eshel @amszmidt
#emacsconf2024 coming up! I got my proposal in https://emacsconf.org/2024/#gopher <- let's visit i-logout.cz/1/bongusta
We'll be in #lambdaMOO ! @nosrednayduj
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#lispyGopherClimate #archived #unmitigatedDisaster https://archives.anonradio.net/202409250030_screwtape.mp3 000UTC every Wednesday
#climate #haiku @kentpitman#music @fstateaudio 's Skin Contact https://www.fstateaudio.com/
#lisp .. KMP's lost #zmacs port to #commonLisp, that thread with @eshel @amszmidt
#emacsconf2024 coming up! I got my proposal in https://emacsconf.org/2024/#gopher <- let's visit i-logout.cz/1/bongusta
We'll be in #lambdaMOO ! @nosrednayduj
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#lispyGopherClimate #archived #unmitigatedDisaster https://archives.anonradio.net/202409250030_screwtape.mp3 000UTC every Wednesday
#climate #haiku @kentpitman#music @fstateaudio 's Skin Contact https://www.fstateaudio.com/
#lisp .. KMP's lost #zmacs port to #commonLisp, that thread with @eshel @amszmidt
#emacsconf2024 coming up! I got my proposal in https://emacsconf.org/2024/#gopher <- let's visit i-logout.cz/1/bongusta
We'll be in #lambdaMOO ! @nosrednayduj
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#lispyGopherClimate #archived #unmitigatedDisaster https://archives.anonradio.net/202409250030_screwtape.mp3 000UTC every Wednesday
#climate #haiku @kentpitman#music @fstateaudio 's Skin Contact https://www.fstateaudio.com/
#lisp .. KMP's lost #zmacs port to #commonLisp, that thread with @eshel @amszmidt
#emacsconf2024 coming up! I got my proposal in https://emacsconf.org/2024/#gopher <- let's visit i-logout.cz/1/bongusta
We'll be in #lambdaMOO ! @nosrednayduj
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#lispyGopherClimate #archived #unmitigatedDisaster https://archives.anonradio.net/202409250030_screwtape.mp3 000UTC every Wednesday
#climate #haiku @kentpitman#music @fstateaudio 's Skin Contact https://www.fstateaudio.com/
#lisp .. KMP's lost #zmacs port to #commonLisp, that thread with @eshel @amszmidt
#emacsconf2024 coming up! I got my proposal in https://emacsconf.org/2024/#gopher <- let's visit i-logout.cz/1/bongusta
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On the tangential topic of quines.
Here is my "due diligence".
By the way, in October I realized on my own a quine could be done with
`lambda' and `let', tried to work it out, ran out of time, left it
aside, and, alas, never went back to it...(defun quinep (form)
"Test whether a non-atom FORM evaluates to itself.
Test equality with `equalp' for better coverage (of implementations
that construct structures when reading backquoted expressions)."
;; A justified use of `eval'.
(and (not (atom form))
(equalp form (eval form))));; NB: `*print-pretty*' may affect the printing of backquotes.
(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm
'(LET ((LET '`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET))
"MMcM's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«MMcM@MIT-AI 09/17/79 15:37:16 Re: ''s».")(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp
'((LAMBDA (LAMBDA) (LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
'(LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
"RWK-KMP's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«KMP,RWK@MIT-ML (Sent by KMP@MIT-ML) 09/18/79 03:37:32».")(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm))
(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp)) -
On the tangential topic of quines.
Here is my "due diligence".
By the way, in October I realized on my own a quine could be done with
`lambda' and `let', tried to work it out, ran out of time, left it
aside, and, alas, never went back to it...(defun quinep (form)
"Test whether a non-atom FORM evaluates to itself.
Test equality with `equalp' for better coverage (of implementations
that construct structures when reading backquoted expressions)."
;; A justified use of `eval'.
(and (not (atom form))
(equalp form (eval form))));; NB: `*print-pretty*' may affect the printing of backquotes.
(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm
'(LET ((LET '`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET))
"MMcM's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«MMcM@MIT-AI 09/17/79 15:37:16 Re: ''s».")(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp
'((LAMBDA (LAMBDA) (LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
'(LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
"RWK-KMP's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«KMP,RWK@MIT-ML (Sent by KMP@MIT-ML) 09/18/79 03:37:32».")(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm))
(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp)) -
On the tangential topic of quines.
Here is my "due diligence".
By the way, in October I realized on my own a quine could be done with
`lambda' and `let', tried to work it out, ran out of time, left it
aside, and, alas, never went back to it...(defun quinep (form)
"Test whether a non-atom FORM evaluates to itself.
Test equality with `equalp' for better coverage (of implementations
that construct structures when reading backquoted expressions)."
;; A justified use of `eval'.
(and (not (atom form))
(equalp form (eval form))));; NB: `*print-pretty*' may affect the printing of backquotes.
(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm
'(LET ((LET '`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET))
"MMcM's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«MMcM@MIT-AI 09/17/79 15:37:16 Re: ''s».")(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp
'((LAMBDA (LAMBDA) (LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
'(LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
"RWK-KMP's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«KMP,RWK@MIT-ML (Sent by KMP@MIT-ML) 09/18/79 03:37:32».")(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm))
(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp)) -
On the tangential topic of quines.
Here is my "due diligence".
By the way, in October I realized on my own a quine could be done with
`lambda' and `let', tried to work it out, ran out of time, left it
aside, and, alas, never went back to it...(defun quinep (form)
"Test whether a non-atom FORM evaluates to itself.
Test equality with `equalp' for better coverage (of implementations
that construct structures when reading backquoted expressions)."
;; A justified use of `eval'.
(and (not (atom form))
(equalp form (eval form))));; NB: `*print-pretty*' may affect the printing of backquotes.
(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm
'(LET ((LET '`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET))
"MMcM's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«MMcM@MIT-AI 09/17/79 15:37:16 Re: ''s».")(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp
'((LAMBDA (LAMBDA) (LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
'(LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
"RWK-KMP's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«KMP,RWK@MIT-ML (Sent by KMP@MIT-ML) 09/18/79 03:37:32».")(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm))
(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp)) -
On the tangential topic of quines.
Here is my "due diligence".
By the way, in October I realized on my own a quine could be done with
`lambda' and `let', tried to work it out, ran out of time, left it
aside, and, alas, never went back to it...(defun quinep (form)
"Test whether a non-atom FORM evaluates to itself.
Test equality with `equalp' for better coverage (of implementations
that construct structures when reading backquoted expressions)."
;; A justified use of `eval'.
(and (not (atom form))
(equalp form (eval form))));; NB: `*print-pretty*' may affect the printing of backquotes.
(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm
'(LET ((LET '`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET)))
`(LET ((LET ',LET)) ,LET))
"MMcM's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«MMcM@MIT-AI 09/17/79 15:37:16 Re: ''s».")(defconstant pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp
'((LAMBDA (LAMBDA) (LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
'(LIST (LIST 'LAMBDA '(LAMBDA) LAMBDA)
(LIST 'QUOTE LAMBDA)))
"RWK-KMP's quine.
See <https://maclisp.info/pitmanual/funnies.html#evaluating_new_ideas>,
«KMP,RWK@MIT-ML (Sent by KMP@MIT-ML) 09/18/79 03:37:32».")(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-mmcm))
(assert (quinep pitmanual-funnies-eni-rwk-kmp)) -
Being frustrated by the lack of concrete information about #NoKings Boston on the 18th. #Mass50501 still says "details coming"; #MassachusettsPeaceAction and #mobilize.us say BOTH noon-4 AND "time to be announced"; #SwingBlueAlliance (who I've never heard of before) says 10-1. What time is a body to show up? I guess they're arguing with the city about use of Boston Common or something, because they all also say "exact location to be announced".
It's only three weeks away!
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Being frustrated by the lack of concrete information about #NoKings Boston on the 18th. #Mass50501 still says "details coming"; #MassachusettsPeaceAction and #mobilize.us say BOTH noon-4 AND "time to be announced"; #SwingBlueAlliance (who I've never heard of before) says 10-1. What time is a body to show up? I guess they're arguing with the city about use of Boston Common or something, because they all also say "exact location to be announced".
It's only three weeks away!
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Being frustrated by the lack of concrete information about #NoKings Boston on the 18th. #Mass50501 still says "details coming"; #MassachusettsPeaceAction and #mobilize.us say BOTH noon-4 AND "time to be announced"; #SwingBlueAlliance (who I've never heard of before) says 10-1. What time is a body to show up? I guess they're arguing with the city about use of Boston Common or something, because they all also say "exact location to be announced".
It's only three weeks away!
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Being frustrated by the lack of concrete information about #NoKings Boston on the 18th. #Mass50501 still says "details coming"; #MassachusettsPeaceAction and #mobilize.us say BOTH noon-4 AND "time to be announced"; #SwingBlueAlliance (who I've never heard of before) says 10-1. What time is a body to show up? I guess they're arguing with the city about use of Boston Common or something, because they all also say "exact location to be announced".
It's only three weeks away!
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Being frustrated by the lack of concrete information about #NoKings Boston on the 18th. #Mass50501 still says "details coming"; #MassachusettsPeaceAction and #mobilize.us say BOTH noon-4 AND "time to be announced"; #SwingBlueAlliance (who I've never heard of before) says 10-1. What time is a body to show up? I guess they're arguing with the city about use of Boston Common or something, because they all also say "exact location to be announced".
It's only three weeks away!
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Anecdote from my partner:
"I have just installed 96TB of disk space in an external enclosure on [work computer]. [coworker] wants it for storing astronomical images. The first time I installed a disk drive on a computer it was 48 years ago and the drive held 90kB. Today's storage is one billion times larger.
Moore's Law is really about chips and not disks, and says that things double every two years. According to that, a billion-fold increase should take 60 years, so I'm somewhat ahead of that rate."
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@dplattsf ...aaaand the #BostonGlobe censored today's Doonesbury. Thanks for posting the real one.
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@screwlisp Thought you would be interested in this.
On the ex-Symbolics employees mailing list somebody posted a link to a "history of the Lisp machine".
https://youtu.be/sV7C6Ezl35A?si=S4uh4-JXKC2_7lOR
It's kind of long and so I didn't watch the whole thing, but just skipped around a little bit. Somebody else who did watch it said,
'Fascinating exposition. Given his mispronunciations of "CADR" and "Macsyma", it's clear that he wasn't in the room where it happened, nor spoke to anyone who was. But I can't quarrel with his research or cause-and-effect analysis of both the industry as a whole and Symbolics in particular.'