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You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:
It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.
In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:
* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').
* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.
* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.
* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.
* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.
There are other differences as well.
#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers -
You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:
It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.
In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:
* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').
* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.
* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.
* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.
* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.
There are other differences as well.
#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers -
You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:
It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.
In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:
* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').
* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.
* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.
* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.
* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.
There are other differences as well.
#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers -
You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:
It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.
In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:
* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').
* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.
* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.
* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.
* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.
There are other differences as well.
#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers -
You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:
It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.
In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:
* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').
* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.
* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.
* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.
* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.
There are other differences as well.
#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers -
The always awesome Asianometry channel covered Lisp, early AI, and the Lisp Machines earlier this year:
“A Cult AI Computer’s Boom And Bust”, Asianometry (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7C6Ezl35A).
#Video #Asianometry #Lisp #AI #LispMachines #Symbolics #YouTube
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The always awesome Asianometry channel covered Lisp, early AI, and the Lisp Machines earlier this year:
“A Cult AI Computer’s Boom And Bust”, Asianometry (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7C6Ezl35A).
#Video #Asianometry #Lisp #AI #LispMachines #Symbolics #YouTube
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The always awesome Asianometry channel covered Lisp, early AI, and the Lisp Machines earlier this year:
“A Cult AI Computer’s Boom And Bust”, Asianometry (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7C6Ezl35A).
#Video #Asianometry #Lisp #AI #LispMachines #Symbolics #YouTube
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The always awesome Asianometry channel covered Lisp, early AI, and the Lisp Machines earlier this year:
“A Cult AI Computer’s Boom And Bust”, Asianometry (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7C6Ezl35A).
#Video #Asianometry #Lisp #AI #LispMachines #Symbolics #YouTube
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Кто ближе к Настоящему ИИ: LLM… или те, кого мы игнорируем?
За последние годы мир убедил себя, что ИИ уже здесь и что он: говорит, пишет, рисует, а значит - он думает . Но что, если это всего лишь иллюзия? Что, если настоящий ИИ "молчит" и не потому что не может, а потому что "не хочет говорить", пока не будет готов нести ответственность за каждое слово? Пока все смотрели на LLM, за кулисами десятки команд по всему миру, от Токио до Сан-Паулу, десятилетиями строили архитектуры, в которых разум "рождается" не из данных, а из логики, символов и целеполагания. Эти системы не генерируют стихи, а решают задачи, которых не было в обучающих наборах. И они уже сегодня обладают зачатками того, чего LLM принципиально лишены: модели мира, теории разума и внутренней воли. В этой статье вы узнаете, почему ни одна LLM никогда не пройдёт даже базовый тест Тьюринга. Какие архитектуры уже сегодня соответствуют критериям Настоящего ИИ и почему их разработчики предпочитают молчать, а не участвовать в гонке за хайпом. Это не статья для тех, кто верит в "чудо масштабирования", она для тех, кто готов увидеть, что скрыто за завесой. Узнать больше...
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40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:
🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682
🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4
🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP
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40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:
🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682
🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4
🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP
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40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:
🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682
🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4
🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP
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40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:
🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682
🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4
🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP
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40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:
🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682
🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4
🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP
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The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):
🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp
🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt
The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.
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🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP
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The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):
🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp
🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt
The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.
🌺
🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP
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The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):
🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp
🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt
The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.
🌺
🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP
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If you would like to come over to a friendly group on Telegram focused on the programming languages in the #FamilyOfLisp — please feel welcomed to join!
We are here:
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🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #InterLisp #Clojure #BaLindaLisp #Hy #ELSConf #ZetaLisp #LispMachine #ConnectionMachine #ThinkingMachines #Emacs #AutoLisp #CLOS #AMOP #SICP #CLtL2 #PAIP #AIMA #PCL #Symbolics #Genera #DylanLang #LFE #ISLisp #Arc #Janet #Jank #OnLisp #HTDP #CLHS #EuLisp