#webenvironmentintegrity — Public Fediverse posts
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"We’ve heard your feedback, and the Web Environment Integrity proposal is no longer being considered by the Chrome team."
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2023/11/increasing-trust-for-embedded-media.html
#tech #news #google #chrome #drm #WebEnvironmentIntegrity #OpenWeb
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CW: Long thread/13
It's a reminder that what a monopolist thinks of as "security" isn't what you think of as security. Oftentimes, *their* security is antithetical to *your* security. That was the case with #WebEnvironmentIntegrity, a plan by Google to make your phone rat you out to advertisers' servers, revealing any adblocking modifications you might have installed so that ad-serving companies could refuse to talk to you:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/08/02/self-incrimination/#wei-bai-bai
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@Natanox Du musst aufs Datum achten. #WEI wurde vor wenigen Tagen erst abgesagt. Der von mir übersetzte Rant ist vom August und kann deshalb noch nicht auf diese neue Entwicklung eingehen.
Wie der auf Android-Apps beschränkte WEI-Nachfolger zu bewerten ist, würde ich gern hier diskutieren. Bisher erschließt sich mir der Sinn nicht.
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@chpietsch
Der nächste Angriff auf Demokratie und Menschenrechte.#WebEnvironmentIntegrity #WEI #Google #Privatsphäre #privacysandbox
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Web Environment Integrity got cancelled 🙌
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And Google has abandoned #WebEnvironmentIntegrity. Yay! The End!
Mm... No! Google has 'heard your feedback' and has instead created 'WebView Media Integrity API' that is 'narrowly scoped' and 'only targets' #AndroidWebView.
Think about it - now they don't have to listen to anyone's 'feedback'. And if you think the scope is going to remain narrow, boy! I have news for you! #FLoC/Topics anyone? Fool me once - shame on you! Fool me twice...
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2023/11/increasing-trust-for-embedded-media.html
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We'd opposed #Google's 'dangerous' Web integrity API proposal. Now they are backing off!
This is massively positive for the neutrality of the open Web. Though Google is so heavily driven by its interests rather than the benefit of the Web in general, it remains to be seen (and we strongly suspect it won’t take long) what they choose to replace it with.
Are they, for example, preparing a seemingly less obnoxious spec that is actually just as harmful to users (as they did with #FLOC & #Topics)?
It is highly suspicious that it coincides with their recent announcement to move from pay-per-click to pay-per-impression for ads.
Generally, Google hasn’t shown itself to be a trustworthy custodian of the web & we can’t let this apparent victory lure us into resting on our laurels.
A strong diversity of browsers & browser engines is going to be crucial to counteract any future attempt by a single party to dictate the future of the web.For more on this, head to our blog. ⬇️
https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/ -
Gut: #WebEnvironmentIntegrity ist tot!
Schlecht: Android-User bekommen #WEI trotzdem: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2023/11/increasing-trust-for-embedded-media.html
Wir haben uns fast schon daran gewöhnt, dass #Google in jedem Quartal einen neuen Angriff auf unsere #Privatsphäre oder auf das offene Web startet. Gern mit einem orwellschen Euphemismus benamt wie #privacysandbox.
Ein Rant: https://digitalcourage.de/blog/2023/google-web-environment-integrity
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Tiens, il semblerait que G👀gle ait décidé d'abandonner son projet fou dit #WebEnvironmentIntegrity 👍
https://9to5google.com/2023/11/02/google-chrome-web-integrity-api/
“Web Environment Integrity proposal is no longer being considered by the Chrome team.” -
Google is not proceeding with the proposed Web Integrity API. Instead, it is working on a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s "narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps" while "no user or device identifiers are shared."
#Google #OpenWeb
#WebEnvironmentIntegrity #Android #web #WebViewhttps://android-developers.googleblog.com/2023/11/increasing-trust-for-embedded-media.html?m=1
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:blobParty: Victory.
TL;DR: o Google queria colocar DRM na internet inteira, mas ninguém gostou da ideia além deles e agora desistiram da patacoada.
:mastodon: https://toot.cat/@doe/111342905547611447
:ars: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/
:youtube: https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=pwGTQu8DeTQ
:github: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity -
Google's new Web Environment Integrity (WEI) proposal has been almost universally derided. Here's what it could do to the web.
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Chromium-based browsers hold the majority of the browser market share.
This causes multiple issues:
- Increased attack surface
- Illusion of choice
- Single entity controlHaving a single product spread across millions of machines imposes a severe risk in case of discovered vulnerability as the area of attack could be worldwide and the patches could take a long time to propagate, giving opportunity for attackers to take advantage of the situation.
Users are given illusion of choice, no matter what they pick they are likely to end up using Google's product, either Blink or Chromium, since most browsers are based on them and are not advertised as such.
While Chromium project is open-source, ultimately Google is in full control of the changes being made to it. Giving away control of the web client to Google, entity controlling most of the web space, gives it the ability to shift and control market to it's will, both client-side and server-side.
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Mozilla on controversial #WebEnvironmentIntegrity
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852
citing https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/webvision/full/#openness
Standards "aim to avoid assumptions about the underlying hardware or software that might restrict where they can be deployed"
"no single party decides which form-factors, devices, #OperatingSystems, and #browsers may access the #Web"
This helps people "to overcome personal obstacles to access"
"Mechanisms that attempt to restrict these choices are harmful to the openness of the Web"
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Schön, daß #google bei der Browser-Entscheidung hilft. #chrome fliegt jetzt von all meinen Geräten. Auch die Instanzen zum Testen. Nicht zuletzt, weil ich keine Produkte mehr von #gafam nutzen will.
Und wenn meine Websiteprojekte im Chrome fehlerhaft sind, dann ist das eben so. Ich überlege zudem, ein "no chrome / no chrome support" Symbol auf die Seiten zu setzen.
#bigtech #gamam #datenchutz #privacy #WebEnvironmentIntegrity #webdrm #browserdrm #souveränität #ux #uux
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@endDRM on controversial #WebEnvironmentIntegrity #WEI proposal
"Many of us have grown up with a specific idea of the Internet, the notion of it as a collection of hyperlinked pages that can be accessed by a wide variety of different machines, programs, and operating systems. WEI is this idea's antithesis"
"Before serving a web page, a server can ask a #ThirdParty "verification" service to make sure that the user's browsing environment has not been "tampered" with"
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You thought #WebEnvironmentIntegrity (#WEI) was bad enough?
#Mozilla is alerted about a bill that has been suddenly put on an accelerated procedure in #France. That would force every #webbrowser to implement #censorship (not just at the #DNS).
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What an analogy for #WebEnvironmentIntegrity #WEI
> Putting handcuffs on every shopper who enters a store would doubtless reduce shoplifting, and stores with less shoplifting might lower their prices, benefitting all of their customers
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/your-computer-should-say-what-you-tell-it-say-1
Security always has been a tradeoff, hasn't it?
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New Video Up Now! We talk about this ridiculous proposal for the new #webenvironmentintegrity API that #google is trying to push through and how it’s just an absolutely #awful idea. Check out the full video here!
This Will Destroy The Internet As We Know It
https://youtu.be/58V0uKO7HLo -
New Video Up Now! We talk about this ridiculous proposal for the new #webenvironmentintegrity API that #google is trying to push through and how it’s just an absolutely #awful idea. Check out the full video here!
This Will Destroy The Internet As We Know It
https://youtu.be/58V0uKO7HLo -
Gibt es eigentlich schon Anti-#WEI-Banner, die Webseitenbesucher davor warnen, wenn sie einen Browser verwenden, der #WebEnvironmentIntegrity integriert hat?
Bestenfalls mit Links zu "mehr Informationen" und zum Einbau auf der eigenen Homepage?@digitalcourage Ich denke, das würde zu etwas mehr Beachtung bei den Nutzern von #Chrome #Edge #SamsungInternet und Co. führen und könnte so evtl. eine kritische Masse generieren. 🤔
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I've given #Firefox a chance, but it's simply too far behind #Chrome in speed and stability.
It regularly becomes unresponsive. Crashes in one tab can lock up other tabs. Chrome had that solved on day one back in 2008.
The lack of proper #PWA support is also a deal breaker.
I hate #webEnvironmentIntegrity as much as the next #webDev, but I can't live like this.
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#WebEnvironmentIntegrity is an all-out attack on the free Internet: Read why #WEI is terrible, and why we must vocally oppose it now. Google's latest maneuver threatens our freedom to explore the Internet with browsers of our choice. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/web-environment-integrity-is-an-all-out-attack-on-the-free-internet #DRM
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If my ISP stops acting up, my latest novelty (because it's not more than that) to protest #Google's #WebEnvironmentIntegrity #WEI crapola is up
