#sciop — Public Fediverse posts
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http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
>And this is exactly why Linux distributions have been distributing ISOs using torrents for years. Aside from the sort of piracy thing, that's the other thing that BitTorrent gets used a lot for, and it means that the small organizations throwing up their own Linux distro can distribute it without it completely crashing their tiny servers.
You're not wrong :P Pic related. It annoys me that #tails @tails recently moved away from having torrents as a form of downloading.
>Yeah, it makes me, think about, and something I've thought about before but haven't really explored is you know how when you go on Archive.org and there's a file, and one of your options is just to download a torrent. Why don't we do that for institutional repositories and data repositories?
That's one of my favourite parts of the Internet Archive :D
>Because those are starting to get big. I mean, I know one of the reasons is because, like, we use proprietary software for our institutional repository and Clarabate and Elsevier don't want to support that.
Elsevier, the bane of my academic existence.
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Also, vis-a-vis webseeds... what's stopping a Tor onion service from being the HTTP(S) endpoint? Those are pretty damn hard to bring down (from a legal standpoint). I'd assume the main limitation is that BitTorrent clients don't speak "onion service," but that's a fixable problem. Hell, what's stopping the trackers themselves from being onion services?
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http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
>And this is exactly why Linux distributions have been distributing ISOs using torrents for years. Aside from the sort of piracy thing, that's the other thing that BitTorrent gets used a lot for, and it means that the small organizations throwing up their own Linux distro can distribute it without it completely crashing their tiny servers.
You're not wrong :P Pic related. It annoys me that #tails @tails recently moved away from having torrents as a form of downloading.
>Yeah, it makes me, think about, and something I've thought about before but haven't really explored is you know how when you go on Archive.org and there's a file, and one of your options is just to download a torrent. Why don't we do that for institutional repositories and data repositories?
That's one of my favourite parts of the Internet Archive :D
>Because those are starting to get big. I mean, I know one of the reasons is because, like, we use proprietary software for our institutional repository and Clarabate and Elsevier don't want to support that.
Elsevier, the bane of my academic existence.
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Also, vis-a-vis webseeds... what's stopping a Tor onion service from being the HTTP(S) endpoint? Those are pretty damn hard to bring down (from a legal standpoint). I'd assume the main limitation is that BitTorrent clients don't speak "onion service," but that's a fixable problem. Hell, what's stopping the trackers themselves from being onion services?
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http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
>And this is exactly why Linux distributions have been distributing ISOs using torrents for years. Aside from the sort of piracy thing, that's the other thing that BitTorrent gets used a lot for, and it means that the small organizations throwing up their own Linux distro can distribute it without it completely crashing their tiny servers.
You're not wrong :P Pic related. It annoys me that #tails @tails recently moved away from having torrents as a form of downloading.
>Yeah, it makes me, think about, and something I've thought about before but haven't really explored is you know how when you go on Archive.org and there's a file, and one of your options is just to download a torrent. Why don't we do that for institutional repositories and data repositories?
That's one of my favourite parts of the Internet Archive :D
>Because those are starting to get big. I mean, I know one of the reasons is because, like, we use proprietary software for our institutional repository and Clarabate and Elsevier don't want to support that.
Elsevier, the bane of my academic existence.
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Also, vis-a-vis webseeds... what's stopping a Tor onion service from being the HTTP(S) endpoint? Those are pretty damn hard to bring down (from a legal standpoint). I'd assume the main limitation is that BitTorrent clients don't speak "onion service," but that's a fixable problem. Hell, what's stopping the trackers themselves from being onion services?
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http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
>And this is exactly why Linux distributions have been distributing ISOs using torrents for years. Aside from the sort of piracy thing, that's the other thing that BitTorrent gets used a lot for, and it means that the small organizations throwing up their own Linux distro can distribute it without it completely crashing their tiny servers.
You're not wrong :P Pic related. It annoys me that #tails @tails recently moved away from having torrents as a form of downloading.
>Yeah, it makes me, think about, and something I've thought about before but haven't really explored is you know how when you go on Archive.org and there's a file, and one of your options is just to download a torrent. Why don't we do that for institutional repositories and data repositories?
That's one of my favourite parts of the Internet Archive :D
>Because those are starting to get big. I mean, I know one of the reasons is because, like, we use proprietary software for our institutional repository and Clarabate and Elsevier don't want to support that.
Elsevier, the bane of my academic existence.
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Also, vis-a-vis webseeds... what's stopping a Tor onion service from being the HTTP(S) endpoint? Those are pretty damn hard to bring down (from a legal standpoint). I'd assume the main limitation is that BitTorrent clients don't speak "onion service," but that's a fixable problem. Hell, what's stopping the trackers themselves from being onion services?
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http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
>And this is exactly why Linux distributions have been distributing ISOs using torrents for years. Aside from the sort of piracy thing, that's the other thing that BitTorrent gets used a lot for, and it means that the small organizations throwing up their own Linux distro can distribute it without it completely crashing their tiny servers.
You're not wrong :P Pic related. It annoys me that #tails @tails recently moved away from having torrents as a form of downloading.
>Yeah, it makes me, think about, and something I've thought about before but haven't really explored is you know how when you go on Archive.org and there's a file, and one of your options is just to download a torrent. Why don't we do that for institutional repositories and data repositories?
That's one of my favourite parts of the Internet Archive :D
>Because those are starting to get big. I mean, I know one of the reasons is because, like, we use proprietary software for our institutional repository and Clarabate and Elsevier don't want to support that.
Elsevier, the bane of my academic existence.
-----
Also, vis-a-vis webseeds... what's stopping a Tor onion service from being the HTTP(S) endpoint? Those are pretty damn hard to bring down (from a legal standpoint). I'd assume the main limitation is that BitTorrent clients don't speak "onion service," but that's a fixable problem. Hell, what's stopping the trackers themselves from being onion services?
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RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116218229348059739
impossible to quote myself because i am always speaking in like a 10-layer run-on, but, still thinking about private/public social systems that support resilient digital social systems, around 33:45....
instead of it being one #sciop and that's a unitary thing, we want to do the same thing here where we have a number of these different trackers that can be online and talk to each other and share metadata back and forth ...
the more important role of a tracker is a site of social coordination, a site of giving organization and structure to a bundle of torrents. in particular giving a focus - in the same way that what cd focused labor towards archiving music, having sciop focusing labor as a place to put the public information torrents is the main thing that it actually does. So building those kind of social systems into the tracker, and the next steps are making those social systems extend across multiple trackers ...
A lot of the peer to peer space, especially post crypto boom can lean very libertarian in terms of its design and its goals. That its goal is to make the one big public archive of everything, and that doesn't exactly fit in this context and it's just a very particular arrangement of power. ... If you build your system around assuming that everything should be public and should always be immediately available, then you don't have the means of making these kinds of gray-area private negotiations and discussions that might need to happen for data that's a little more sensitive.
So we need a federation and sharing model that can scale from private, literally peer-to-peer as in "i want to know exactly who is involved in this swarm of peers" up to the global public index. So that's the next step as far as what we're working on this year.
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RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116218229348059739
impossible to quote myself because i am always speaking in like a 10-layer run-on, but, still thinking about private/public social systems that support resilient digital social systems, around 33:45....
instead of it being one #sciop and that's a unitary thing, we want to do the same thing here where we have a number of these different trackers that can be online and talk to each other and share metadata back and forth ...
the more important role of a tracker is a site of social coordination, a site of giving organization and structure to a bundle of torrents. in particular giving a focus - in the same way that what cd focused labor towards archiving music, having sciop focusing labor as a place to put the public information torrents is the main thing that it actually does. So building those kind of social systems into the tracker, and the next steps are making those social systems extend across multiple trackers ...
A lot of the peer to peer space, especially post crypto boom can lean very libertarian in terms of its design and its goals. That its goal is to make the one big public archive of everything, and that doesn't exactly fit in this context and it's just a very particular arrangement of power. ... If you build your system around assuming that everything should be public and should always be immediately available, then you don't have the means of making these kinds of gray-area private negotiations and discussions that might need to happen for data that's a little more sensitive.
So we need a federation and sharing model that can scale from private, literally peer-to-peer as in "i want to know exactly who is involved in this swarm of peers" up to the global public index. So that's the next step as far as what we're working on this year.
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RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116218229348059739
impossible to quote myself because i am always speaking in like a 10-layer run-on, but, still thinking about private/public social systems that support resilient digital social systems, around 33:45....
instead of it being one #sciop and that's a unitary thing, we want to do the same thing here where we have a number of these different trackers that can be online and talk to each other and share metadata back and forth ...
the more important role of a tracker is a site of social coordination, a site of giving organization and structure to a bundle of torrents. in particular giving a focus - in the same way that what cd focused labor towards archiving music, having sciop focusing labor as a place to put the public information torrents is the main thing that it actually does. So building those kind of social systems into the tracker, and the next steps are making those social systems extend across multiple trackers ...
A lot of the peer to peer space, especially post crypto boom can lean very libertarian in terms of its design and its goals. That its goal is to make the one big public archive of everything, and that doesn't exactly fit in this context and it's just a very particular arrangement of power. ... If you build your system around assuming that everything should be public and should always be immediately available, then you don't have the means of making these kinds of gray-area private negotiations and discussions that might need to happen for data that's a little more sensitive.
So we need a federation and sharing model that can scale from private, literally peer-to-peer as in "i want to know exactly who is involved in this swarm of peers" up to the global public index. So that's the next step as far as what we're working on this year.
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RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116218229348059739
impossible to quote myself because i am always speaking in like a 10-layer run-on, but, still thinking about private/public social systems that support resilient digital social systems, around 33:45....
instead of it being one #sciop and that's a unitary thing, we want to do the same thing here where we have a number of these different trackers that can be online and talk to each other and share metadata back and forth ...
the more important role of a tracker is a site of social coordination, a site of giving organization and structure to a bundle of torrents. in particular giving a focus - in the same way that what cd focused labor towards archiving music, having sciop focusing labor as a place to put the public information torrents is the main thing that it actually does. So building those kind of social systems into the tracker, and the next steps are making those social systems extend across multiple trackers ...
A lot of the peer to peer space, especially post crypto boom can lean very libertarian in terms of its design and its goals. That its goal is to make the one big public archive of everything, and that doesn't exactly fit in this context and it's just a very particular arrangement of power. ... If you build your system around assuming that everything should be public and should always be immediately available, then you don't have the means of making these kinds of gray-area private negotiations and discussions that might need to happen for data that's a little more sensitive.
So we need a federation and sharing model that can scale from private, literally peer-to-peer as in "i want to know exactly who is involved in this swarm of peers" up to the global public index. So that's the next step as far as what we're working on this year.
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RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116218229348059739
impossible to quote myself because i am always speaking in like a 10-layer run-on, but, still thinking about private/public social systems that support resilient digital social systems, around 33:45....
instead of it being one #sciop and that's a unitary thing, we want to do the same thing here where we have a number of these different trackers that can be online and talk to each other and share metadata back and forth ...
the more important role of a tracker is a site of social coordination, a site of giving organization and structure to a bundle of torrents. in particular giving a focus - in the same way that what cd focused labor towards archiving music, having sciop focusing labor as a place to put the public information torrents is the main thing that it actually does. So building those kind of social systems into the tracker, and the next steps are making those social systems extend across multiple trackers ...
A lot of the peer to peer space, especially post crypto boom can lean very libertarian in terms of its design and its goals. That its goal is to make the one big public archive of everything, and that doesn't exactly fit in this context and it's just a very particular arrangement of power. ... If you build your system around assuming that everything should be public and should always be immediately available, then you don't have the means of making these kinds of gray-area private negotiations and discussions that might need to happen for data that's a little more sensitive.
So we need a federation and sharing model that can scale from private, literally peer-to-peer as in "i want to know exactly who is involved in this swarm of peers" up to the global public index. So that's the next step as far as what we're working on this year.
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We were on librarypunk again to talk about #sciop. True to form I talk too much and they had to split it into two parts... Again...
http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
We spent a bit too much time talking about bittorrent and not enough time talking about the underlying fascism of it all, but hopefully the goal of a federated tracker for connected communities to self-archive comes thru
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We were on librarypunk again to talk about #sciop. True to form I talk too much and they had to split it into two parts... Again...
http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
We spent a bit too much time talking about bittorrent and not enough time talking about the underlying fascism of it all, but hopefully the goal of a federated tracker for connected communities to self-archive comes thru
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We were on librarypunk again to talk about #sciop. True to form I talk too much and they had to split it into two parts... Again...
http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
We spent a bit too much time talking about bittorrent and not enough time talking about the underlying fascism of it all, but hopefully the goal of a federated tracker for connected communities to self-archive comes thru
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We were on librarypunk again to talk about #sciop. True to form I talk too much and they had to split it into two parts... Again...
http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
We spent a bit too much time talking about bittorrent and not enough time talking about the underlying fascism of it all, but hopefully the goal of a federated tracker for connected communities to self-archive comes thru
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We were on librarypunk again to talk about #sciop. True to form I talk too much and they had to split it into two parts... Again...
http://librarypunk.gay/e/160-sciopnet-feat-jonny-and-jez-part-1/
We spent a bit too much time talking about bittorrent and not enough time talking about the underlying fascism of it all, but hopefully the goal of a federated tracker for connected communities to self-archive comes thru
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#sciop is now DMCA registered agent official thanks to a generous corporate sponsorship by Peertech Global Cyberindustrial Concern, LLC.
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#sciop is now DMCA registered agent official thanks to a generous corporate sponsorship by Peertech Global Cyberindustrial Concern, LLC.
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#sciop is now DMCA registered agent official thanks to a generous corporate sponsorship by Peertech Global Cyberindustrial Concern, LLC.
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#sciop is now DMCA registered agent official thanks to a generous corporate sponsorship by Peertech Global Cyberindustrial Concern, LLC.
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#sciop is now DMCA registered agent official thanks to a generous corporate sponsorship by Peertech Global Cyberindustrial Concern, LLC.
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(This is a job to come work on #sciop)
https://digipres.club/@mickylindlar/116025881444877358 -
(This is a job to come work on #sciop)
https://digipres.club/@mickylindlar/116025881444877358 -
(This is a job to come work on #sciop)
https://digipres.club/@mickylindlar/116025881444877358 -
(This is a job to come work on #sciop)
https://digipres.club/@mickylindlar/116025881444877358 -
(This is a job to come work on #sciop)
https://digipres.club/@mickylindlar/116025881444877358 -
Have had to work on some other things lately, but returning to #sciop and wrote a blog post about current status and our plans for federation - it's about that time. Just need to do one more feature (commenting) and finish up some work for main job responsibilities, and it's off to implementing distributed activitypub where we decouple actors from instances
https://blog.sciop.net/2025-12-08/sfn-and-federation -
Have had to work on some other things lately, but returning to #sciop and wrote a blog post about current status and our plans for federation - it's about that time. Just need to do one more feature (commenting) and finish up some work for main job responsibilities, and it's off to implementing distributed activitypub where we decouple actors from instances
https://blog.sciop.net/2025-12-08/sfn-and-federation -
Have had to work on some other things lately, but returning to #sciop and wrote a blog post about current status and our plans for federation - it's about that time. Just need to do one more feature (commenting) and finish up some work for main job responsibilities, and it's off to implementing distributed activitypub where we decouple actors from instances
https://blog.sciop.net/2025-12-08/sfn-and-federation -
Have had to work on some other things lately, but returning to #sciop and wrote a blog post about current status and our plans for federation - it's about that time. Just need to do one more feature (commenting) and finish up some work for main job responsibilities, and it's off to implementing distributed activitypub where we decouple actors from instances
https://blog.sciop.net/2025-12-08/sfn-and-federation -
Have had to work on some other things lately, but returning to #sciop and wrote a blog post about current status and our plans for federation - it's about that time. Just need to do one more feature (commenting) and finish up some work for main job responsibilities, and it's off to implementing distributed activitypub where we decouple actors from instances
https://blog.sciop.net/2025-12-08/sfn-and-federation -
@josh0 I have a VM consuming two entire copies of the bluesky firehose (okay not as big as twitters but) on a machine in my living room.
It's also the same machine that's processing all these json files.
Oh and running several hundred torrents comprising a few hundred TB of data for #sciop
No sweat, still has a couple dozen CPU threads doing nothing
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@josh0 I have a VM consuming two entire copies of the bluesky firehose (okay not as big as twitters but) on a machine in my living room.
It's also the same machine that's processing all these json files.
Oh and running several hundred torrents comprising a few hundred TB of data for #sciop
No sweat, still has a couple dozen CPU threads doing nothing
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@josh0 I have a VM consuming two entire copies of the bluesky firehose (okay not as big as twitters but) on a machine in my living room.
It's also the same machine that's processing all these json files.
Oh and running several hundred torrents comprising a few hundred TB of data for #sciop
No sweat, still has a couple dozen CPU threads doing nothing
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@josh0 I have a VM consuming two entire copies of the bluesky firehose (okay not as big as twitters but) on a machine in my living room.
It's also the same machine that's processing all these json files.
Oh and running several hundred torrents comprising a few hundred TB of data for #sciop
No sweat, still has a couple dozen CPU threads doing nothing
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@josh0 I have a VM consuming two entire copies of the bluesky firehose (okay not as big as twitters but) on a machine in my living room.
It's also the same machine that's processing all these json files.
Oh and running several hundred torrents comprising a few hundred TB of data for #sciop
No sweat, still has a couple dozen CPU threads doing nothing
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Here's another #FEP for representing torrents on activitypub :)
short, sweet, and with a reference implementation and tests!
towards a federated bittorrent tracker with #sciop !
PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/714
Discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d8c8-bittorrent-torrent-objects/8309 (or this thread)
#FEP_d8c8 #BitTorrentOverActivityPub #FederatedP2P #BitTorrent
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Here's another #FEP for representing torrents on activitypub :)
short, sweet, and with a reference implementation and tests!
towards a federated bittorrent tracker with #sciop !
PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/714
Discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d8c8-bittorrent-torrent-objects/8309 (or this thread)
#FEP_d8c8 #BitTorrentOverActivityPub #FederatedP2P #BitTorrent
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Here's another #FEP for representing torrents on activitypub :)
short, sweet, and with a reference implementation and tests!
towards a federated bittorrent tracker with #sciop !
PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/714
Discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d8c8-bittorrent-torrent-objects/8309 (or this thread)
#FEP_d8c8 #BitTorrentOverActivityPub #FederatedP2P #BitTorrent
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Here's another #FEP for representing torrents on activitypub :)
short, sweet, and with a reference implementation and tests!
towards a federated bittorrent tracker with #sciop !
PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/714
Discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d8c8-bittorrent-torrent-objects/8309 (or this thread)
#FEP_d8c8 #BitTorrentOverActivityPub #FederatedP2P #BitTorrent
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Here's another #FEP for representing torrents on activitypub :)
short, sweet, and with a reference implementation and tests!
towards a federated bittorrent tracker with #sciop !
PR: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/714
Discussion: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d8c8-bittorrent-torrent-objects/8309 (or this thread)
#FEP_d8c8 #BitTorrentOverActivityPub #FederatedP2P #BitTorrent
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This is extremely sad y'all. ZERO seeding going on from the SciOp / public data / antifa torrent server. Have a few spare gigs? Even that's something, please help preserve data the fascists are destroying!
#resist #fascism #datahoarder #digitalpreservation #archive #sciop #torrent #publicdata
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This is extremely sad y'all. ZERO seeding going on from the SciOp / public data / antifa torrent server. Have a few spare gigs? Even that's something, please help preserve data the fascists are destroying!
#resist #fascism #datahoarder #digitalpreservation #archive #sciop #torrent #publicdata
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This is extremely sad y'all. ZERO seeding going on from the SciOp / public data / antifa torrent server. Have a few spare gigs? Even that's something, please help preserve data the fascists are destroying!
#resist #fascism #datahoarder #digitalpreservation #archive #sciop #torrent #publicdata
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This is extremely sad y'all. ZERO seeding going on from the SciOp / public data / antifa torrent server. Have a few spare gigs? Even that's something, please help preserve data the fascists are destroying!
#resist #fascism #datahoarder #digitalpreservation #archive #sciop #torrent #publicdata
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This is extremely sad y'all. ZERO seeding going on from the SciOp / public data / antifa torrent server. Have a few spare gigs? Even that's something, please help preserve data the fascists are destroying!
#resist #fascism #datahoarder #digitalpreservation #archive #sciop #torrent #publicdata