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Also a microformats/semantic HTML question: is there a good accessibility argument for using microformats or other semantic markup for locations specifically?
I ask because I've soured a bit on structured data now that it feels like I'm just making it easier to slurp up my page for AI training.
I like the idea of making things richer and easier to use for humans, but apart from using microformats to add data to webmentions, I'm starting to consider paring back on how much I use them.
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WML, WAP, and Microformats Demo, by @artlung.com:
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Given that the biggest obstacle to the adoption of microformats is the lack of programs that actually implement them, I have been toying with the idea of writing some useful programs that work with all the information we put onto our websites.
It's frustrating that we're at a point where the bottleneck of the Semantic Web ideal is not actually a low amount of structured information, but the lack of any program to do anything interesting whatsoever with it!
Who cares if we all use the HTML5 tag on our sites, if there is no browser that actually provides a "contact webmaster" button in the sidebar?
Who cares if we all mark up our cooking recipes as perfectly detailed machine readable h-recipe entries, if there is zero cooking apps or whatever actually capable of using any of the data we provide?
Who cares if we all use h-cards and h-feeds and whatnot if there is no feed reader that can actually notify us when our friends posted a new blog entry?
#microformats #microformats2 #HTML #webDev #indieWeb #semanticHTML #semanticWeb #HTML5
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@paulca I wonder if there's prior art from #indieweb land that could be used and/or expanded upon?
https://indieweb.org/Category:building-blocks
#microformats and #ActivityStreams (which begat #ActivityPub already has a big vocabulary of things (nouns and verbs)
The #indeweb outlook on auth is that your domain is your UID
Payments… no real idea/suggestion
The allure of a a Just Works™ universal payments system on the web has been there since the start. That territory seems more fragmented than ever. -
The team @micro.blog have done it again.
They soft-launched https://micro.one yesterday¹.
This may be the most accessible onramp to the open social web ever.
Cost: $1 a month. Yes you read correctly.
This is the simplest and cheapest (where you are the customer, not the product) way to own your identity and content online².
Stop posting in someone else’s garage³.
Time to export your Twitter, and migrate your Mastodon handle to your own home on the web.
Of course you can bring your own domain name. Additionally:
* blog posts, naturally, both articles and microblogging notes
* photos
* podcasting
* custom themes
* web-clients and native mobile posting clients
* WordPress, Tumblr, Mastodon, Medium import
More details (and alternatives) at https://micro.one/about/pricing
And yes, it interoperates with the open #socialWeb, including:
* #ActivityPub support, #Mastodon and #fediverse compatibility
* #IndieAuth to sign-in to third-party apps
* #microformats support in all built-in themes
* #Webmention for sending and receiving replies across websites
* #Micropub standard posting API, supporting dozens of clients
* #Microsub standard timeline API, supporting social readers
More #indieweb support details at https://micro.one/about/indieweb
Did I mention the the superb micro.blog (and micro.one) Community Guidelines?
* https://help.micro.blog/t/community-guidelines/39
Well done @manton.org and team.
This is post 6 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts #ownYourIdentity #ownYourData #openSocialWeb
← https://tantek.com/2025/003/t1/lastfm-year-in-review-playback24
→ https://tantek.com/2025/012/t1/eight-years-webmention
Glossary
IndieAuth
https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth
microformats
https://microformats.org/wiki/microformats
Micropub
https://indieweb.org/Micropub
Microsub
https://indieweb.org/Microsub
Webmention
https://indieweb.org/Webmention
References
¹ https://www.manton.org/2025/01/03/microone-was-effectively-a-softlaunch.html
² https://tantek.com/2025/001/t1/15-years-notes-my-site-first
³ https://tantek.com/2023/022/t2/own-your-notes-domain-migration -
📝:ivory_boost: I Use /uses
Back in 2023 I quietly published my /uses #Slashpage. Today I gave it a pass to update things that had fallen out of date.
#NaBloPoMo #NaBloPoMo2024 #Uses #IndieWeb #Microformats
https://calebhearth.com/m/i-use-uses -
I love microformats, but only a handful of people really use h-feed readers. Maybe add some (explicit) reply context to your RSS feeds, too?
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I have even played around with a few #microformats on top of JDAML -- one codenamed #Znatchke which is something in between HTML and #Markdown and one which shows how something like #doctest could be implemented with JDAML (suggested by @RyunoKi).
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# Über IE8s Webslices und hAtom
Ich habe heute morgen bei Keasone schon den ersten (deutschsprachigen) Bericht über den Internet Explorer 8 (beta) gelesen. In den Genuss, ihn selber zu testen, bin ich leider noch nicht gekommen, habe aber gerade ein paar interessanten Artikel über ein neues IE8 Feature gelesen.
Mit dem neuen Internet Explorer ist es möglich Teile einer Webseite direkt zu abonnieren, um über Änderungen dieser Bereiche Informiert zu werden, ohne den Umweg über einen RSS-Feed gehen zu müssen. Das Besondere an den so genannten „WebSlices“ ist, dass sie dem hAtom Microformat bis auf ein paar kleine Unterschiede gleichen.
WebSlices are enabled by adding HTML annotations directly to the Web page. WebSlices use a combination of the hAtom Microformat and the WebSlice format to describe a subscribable portion of a Web page. This section covers the primary, expiration, and bandwidth properties of a WebSlice.
Das heißt, Microsoft hat weitestgehend die Attribute des hAtom Formats verwendet und einen eigenen „Container“ darum gesetzt. Statt
class="hfeed hentry"heißt es in der WebSlices-Definitionclass="hslice"…Der Aufbau eines WebSlices sieht folgendermassen aus:
<div class="hslice" id="1"> <p class="entry-title">Item - $66.00</p> <div class="entry-content">high bidder: buyer1 ... </div> </div>Code-Sprache: HTML, XML (xml)Das hAtom Format im Vergleich:
<div class="hfeed hentry" id="1"> <p class="entry-title">Item - $66.00</p> <div class="entry-content">high bidder: buyer1 ... </div> </div>Code-Sprache: HTML, XML (xml)Prinzipiell ist die Idee hinter WebSlices, Teile einer Webseite abonnieren zu können, super… schade ist nur, dass sie nicht auf bestehende/etablierte Formate wie hAtom zurückgreifen, sondern wieder ein eigenes proprietäres Format schaffen müssen.
Ich verstehe auch nicht ganz den Sinn hinter diesem Schritt… hAtom ist mittlerweile ein relativ weit verbreiteter Standard (einige Beispiele) und würde dem WebSlices-System sofort einen Anwendungsfall bieten. Durch das Schaffen eines eigenen Formates dauert es seine Zeit, bis Webseiten-Betreiber dieses auch umsetzen (wenn sie es überhaupt umsetzen).Ich hoffe dass Microsoft seinen Kurs ändern wird oder zumindest das hAtom Format als alternative zu ihrem hSlice ermöglicht.
#hAtom #IE8 #InternetExplorer #Microformats #Microsoft #Mikroformate #Webslices