#firstaliyah — Public Fediverse posts

https://www.europesays.com/iran/109748/ Law of Return amendment stirs debate over conversion recognition in Israel #conversion #FirstAliyah #Israel #IsraeliCitizenship #Judaism #LawOfReturnIsrael #TheMediaLine

Immigrant exposes details of life in Israel at war https://www.byteseu.com/?p=1314385 #aliyah #Conflicts #FirstAliyah #IranIsraelWar #Israel #IsraelHamasWar

⬆️ @Nochem
>> We live in the real world, not the biblical world

You shouldn't skip the biblical accounts because #Hamas insists on #Islam as the foundation for the doctrine of defending and protecting #Palestine.

But, if you insist on skipping 1000s of years of history, at least continue with last ~150 years or so (not just 75) with the #RussianRevolution of 1881 and #FirstAliyah ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111972829551469697

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @Nochem
>> We live in the real world, not the biblical world

You shouldn't skip the biblical accounts because #Hamas insists on #Islam as the foundation for the doctrine of defending and protecting #Palestine.

But, if you insist on skipping 1000s of years of history, at least continue with last ~150 years or so (not just 75) with the #RussianRevolution of 1881 and #FirstAliyah ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111972829551469697

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @Nochem
>> We live in the real world, not the biblical world

You shouldn't skip the biblical accounts because #Hamas insists on #Islam as the foundation for the doctrine of defending and protecting #Palestine.

But, if you insist on skipping 1000s of years of history, at least continue with last ~150 years or so (not just 75) with the #RussianRevolution of 1881 and #FirstAliyah ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111972829551469697

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @oatmeal

Even ignoring the biblical account of #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE, we have documented history of MULTIPLE #JewishDisplacements

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah

And the virulent #antisemitism in #EasternEurope and #Germany that climaxed in the #Holocaust in the early 20th century — ALL happened before your #cherryPicked date of 1948.

@lukevanin
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⬆️ @oatmeal

Even ignoring the biblical account of #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE, we have documented history of MULTIPLE #JewishDisplacements

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah

And the virulent #antisemitism in #EasternEurope and #Germany that climaxed in the #Holocaust in the early 20th century — ALL happened before your #cherryPicked date of 1948.

@lukevanin
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⬆️ @oatmeal

Even ignoring the biblical account of #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE, we have documented history of MULTIPLE #JewishDisplacements

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah

And the virulent #antisemitism in #EasternEurope and #Germany that climaxed in the #Holocaust in the early 20th century — ALL happened before your #cherryPicked date of 1948.

@lukevanin
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@paulbiggar @Grandalf

For 400 years before #WWI, #Palestinians were under despotic #Ottoman #occupation subject to onerous #TurkishYoke. For 4 centuries, occupation was NOT an issue ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111493882749029059

#RussianRevolution of 1871 triggered the #FirstAliyah. Hatred for #Jews predates Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

@specked @endantisemitism

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@paulbiggar @Grandalf

For 400 years before #WWI, #Palestinians were under despotic #Ottoman #occupation subject to onerous #TurkishYoke. For 4 centuries, occupation was NOT an issue ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111493882749029059

#RussianRevolution of 1871 triggered the #FirstAliyah. Hatred for #Jews predates Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

@specked @endantisemitism

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@paulbiggar @Grandalf

For 400 years before #WWI, #Palestinians were under despotic #Ottoman #occupation subject to onerous #TurkishYoke. For 4 centuries, occupation was NOT an issue ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111493882749029059

#RussianRevolution of 1871 triggered the #FirstAliyah. Hatred for #Jews predates Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

@specked @endantisemitism

@Darryl

Oh no no, you don't get to #cherrypick the time frame when it suits you.

12th c.BCE arrival of #Philistines in #Canaan, ignoring that #Jews were present since before that

1917 First wave of #Zionists, ignoring #Paltestinian hatred against #Jews since before the #FirstAliyah -- Why is it ok to bring Zionism up from more than 100 years ago, but not #Arabism?

>> What #Hamas did 2 mo ago is not the issue ➡️ https://kolektiva.social/@Darryl/111570840047394442

Now you want to go back 50 years & blame #US?

@ashmueli

@Darryl

Oh no no, you don't get to #cherrypick the time frame when it suits you.

12th c.BCE arrival of #Philistines in #Canaan, ignoring that #Jews were present since before that

1917 First wave of #Zionists, ignoring #Paltestinian hatred against #Jews since before the #FirstAliyah -- Why is it ok to bring Zionism up from more than 100 years ago, but not #Arabism?

>> What #Hamas did 2 mo ago is not the issue ➡️ https://kolektiva.social/@Darryl/111570840047394442

Now you want to go back 50 years & blame #US?

@ashmueli

@Darryl

Oh no no, you don't get to #cherrypick the time frame when it suits you.

12th c.BCE arrival of #Philistines in #Canaan, ignoring that #Jews were present since before that

1917 First wave of #Zionists, ignoring #Paltestinian hatred against #Jews since before the #FirstAliyah -- Why is it ok to bring Zionism up from more than 100 years ago, but not #Arabism?

>> What #Hamas did 2 mo ago is not the issue ➡️ https://kolektiva.social/@Darryl/111570840047394442

Now you want to go back 50 years & blame #US?

@ashmueli

⬆️ @NLAWScametovisit

I'm sorry to disappoint you, if you came here looking for #Islamophobia.

My toot was about #comfortingLies & #unpleasantTruths involving

1. Militant Terrorism — #AxisOfResistance

2. Geopolitical Calculations — #Arabism

3. History of #Palestine before #FirstAliyah — which predates #Zionism

I DO try different angles to make things exciting. Which of the 3 angles did you find new, exciting, or racist, & why?

Please share to help me hone my message! Thx

@nogodsnomasters

⬆️ @NLAWScametovisit

I'm sorry to disappoint you, if you came here looking for #Islamophobia.

My toot was about #comfortingLies & #unpleasantTruths involving

1. Militant Terrorism — #AxisOfResistance

2. Geopolitical Calculations — #Arabism

3. History of #Palestine before #FirstAliyah — which predates #Zionism

I DO try different angles to make things exciting. Which of the 3 angles did you find new, exciting, or racist, & why?

Please share to help me hone my message! Thx

@nogodsnomasters

⬆️ @NLAWScametovisit

I'm sorry to disappoint you, if you came here looking for #Islamophobia.

My toot was about #comfortingLies & #unpleasantTruths involving

1. Militant Terrorism — #AxisOfResistance

2. Geopolitical Calculations — #Arabism

3. History of #Palestine before #FirstAliyah — which predates #Zionism

I DO try different angles to make things exciting. Which of the 3 angles did you find new, exciting, or racist, & why?

Please share to help me hone my message! Thx

@nogodsnomasters

@wolfsbruder

Repeated #Jewish #displacement crystallizes NEED for Jewish home ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

No label is needed. We ought to accommodate the repeatedly marginalized

But it's the label that gives rise to political #jingoism on both sides. Most people are not ready, willing, or able to look past the label

Also Jewish exclusion attempts in #Palestine predate #FirstAliyah, which itself predates #Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

The real problem is #Arabism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111518104428222810

@wolfsbruder

Repeated #Jewish #displacement crystallizes NEED for Jewish home ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

No label is needed. We ought to accommodate the repeatedly marginalized

But it's the label that gives rise to political #jingoism on both sides. Most people are not ready, willing, or able to look past the label

Also Jewish exclusion attempts in #Palestine predate #FirstAliyah, which itself predates #Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

The real problem is #Arabism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111518104428222810

@wolfsbruder

Repeated #Jewish #displacement crystallizes NEED for Jewish home ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

No label is needed. We ought to accommodate the repeatedly marginalized

But it's the label that gives rise to political #jingoism on both sides. Most people are not ready, willing, or able to look past the label

Also Jewish exclusion attempts in #Palestine predate #FirstAliyah, which itself predates #Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

The real problem is #Arabism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111518104428222810

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#FirstAliyah predates #Zionism.

#Zionist Movement was born of reasons well-known, among which was virulent #antisemitism in #Europe & #Russia.

#Palestinian authorities, themselves under #Turkish #occupation, begged #Ottomans to prohibit #Russian #Jews from immigrating even before the arrival of Zionists — most of whom arrived only after #WWI.

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression.

They never tolerated Jews

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#FirstAliyah predates #Zionism.

#Zionist Movement was born of reasons well-known, among which was virulent #antisemitism in #Europe & #Russia.

#Palestinian authorities, themselves under #Turkish #occupation, begged #Ottomans to prohibit #Russian #Jews from immigrating even before the arrival of Zionists — most of whom arrived only after #WWI.

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression.

They never tolerated Jews

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#FirstAliyah predates #Zionism.

#Zionist Movement was born of reasons well-known, among which was virulent #antisemitism in #Europe & #Russia.

#Palestinian authorities, themselves under #Turkish #occupation, begged #Ottomans to prohibit #Russian #Jews from immigrating even before the arrival of Zionists — most of whom arrived only after #WWI.

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression.

They never tolerated Jews

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#Palestinians loudly complain of #displacement, but they aren't the only ones who have been displaced in history.

15+ million #Hindus & #Muslims were displaced after #BritishIndia was partitioned into #India and #Pakistan in 1947.

#Jewish people suffered displacement MULTIPLE times, even ignoring #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE:

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah
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#Palestinians loudly complain of #displacement, but they aren't the only ones who have been displaced in history.

15+ million #Hindus & #Muslims were displaced after #BritishIndia was partitioned into #India and #Pakistan in 1947.

#Jewish people suffered displacement MULTIPLE times, even ignoring #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE:

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah
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#Palestinians loudly complain of #displacement, but they aren't the only ones who have been displaced in history.

15+ million #Hindus & #Muslims were displaced after #BritishIndia was partitioned into #India and #Pakistan in 1947.

#Jewish people suffered displacement MULTIPLE times, even ignoring #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE:

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah
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