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I made an late night walk and suddenly memories from 18 years ago when I spent a year in Australia fleshed my mind. I wondered why, until I realized that it might be the humid 25°C at 10pm.
#CutCopy #ThePresets #ThePotbelleez #Pendulum #TheGrates #BritishIndia

I made an late night walk and suddenly memories from 18 years ago when I spent a year in Australia fleshed my mind. I wondered why, until I realized that it might be the humid 25°C at 10pm.
#CutCopy #ThePresets #ThePotbelleez #Pendulum #TheGrates #BritishIndia

Before photography transformed history, one British artist documented India's diverse people with extraordinary detail. Her sketches are reshaping how we understand colonial India.

#EmilyEden #India #BritishIndia #ColonialHistory, #ArtHistory #PhotographyHistory #DAGDelhi, #SouthAsia

https://kasonde24.blogspot.com/2026/07/emily-edens-india-sketches-reveal-life.html

Before photography transformed history, one British artist documented India's diverse people with extraordinary detail. Her sketches are reshaping how we understand colonial India.

#EmilyEden #India #BritishIndia #ColonialHistory, #ArtHistory #PhotographyHistory #DAGDelhi, #SouthAsia

https://kasonde24.blogspot.com/2026/07/emily-edens-india-sketches-reveal-life.html

Before photography transformed history, one British artist documented India's diverse people with extraordinary detail. Her sketches are reshaping how we understand colonial India.

#EmilyEden #India #BritishIndia #ColonialHistory, #ArtHistory #PhotographyHistory #DAGDelhi, #SouthAsia

https://kasonde24.blogspot.com/2026/07/emily-edens-india-sketches-reveal-life.html

Before photography transformed history, one British artist documented India's diverse people with extraordinary detail. Her sketches are reshaping how we understand colonial India.

#EmilyEden #India #BritishIndia #ColonialHistory, #ArtHistory #PhotographyHistory #DAGDelhi, #SouthAsia

https://kasonde24.blogspot.com/2026/07/emily-edens-india-sketches-reveal-life.html

Geoff Russ: Sorry, Carney, but the idea that newcomers don’t bring hatreds with them is a fiction

“When you come to Canada,” Mark Carney told newcomers in a speech addressing antisemitism, “you bring your faith,…
#Canada #MarkCarney #AlongsideSarkar #AnjemChoudary #AshSarkar #britishcolumbia #BritishIndia #killingofOsamabinLaden #PrimeMinisterIndiraGandhi #religiousextremism #U.S.Embassy
https://www.europesays.com/canada/95243/

MP Family Seeks Repayment of 1917 Loan from British Government

An Indian family in Madhya Pradesh wants the British government to repay a Rs 35,000 loan from 1917. They have documents and plan legal action.

#ColonialLoan, #BritishIndia, #HistoricalDebt, #MadhyaPradesh, #LegalNotice

https://newsletter.tf/mp-family-seeks-repayment-1917-loan-british/

MP Family Seeks Repayment of 1917 Loan from British Government

An Indian family in Madhya Pradesh wants the British government to repay a Rs 35,000 loan from 1917. They have documents and plan legal action.

#ColonialLoan, #BritishIndia, #HistoricalDebt, #MadhyaPradesh, #LegalNotice

https://newsletter.tf/mp-family-seeks-repayment-1917-loan-british/

A family in India is asking the British government to pay back a loan of Rs 35,000 given in 1917. This is over 100 years ago.

#ColonialLoan, #BritishIndia, #HistoricalDebt, #MadhyaPradesh, #LegalNotice

https://newsletter.tf/mp-family-seeks-repayment-1917-loan-british/

A family in India is asking the British government to pay back a loan of Rs 35,000 given in 1917. This is over 100 years ago.

#ColonialLoan, #BritishIndia, #HistoricalDebt, #MadhyaPradesh, #LegalNotice

https://newsletter.tf/mp-family-seeks-repayment-1917-loan-british/

Kerala Governor Claims British Introduced Caste System in Hinduism

Kerala Governor Rajendra Vishwanath Arlekar claims British introduced the caste system in India during census, changing social structures. Learn more.

#CasteSystem, #BritishIndia, #KeralaGovernor, #IndianHistory, #SocialJustice

https://newsletter.tf/kerala-governor-claims-british-introduced-caste-system-in-india/

Kerala Governor Claims British Introduced Caste System in Hinduism

Kerala Governor Rajendra Vishwanath Arlekar claims British introduced the caste system in India during census, changing social structures. Learn more.

#CasteSystem, #BritishIndia, #KeralaGovernor, #IndianHistory, #SocialJustice

https://newsletter.tf/kerala-governor-claims-british-introduced-caste-system-in-india/

Did the British create India's caste system? Kerala Governor Arlekar says yes, arguing Hinduism only had a 'varna' system before colonial rule. This changes how we see history.

#CasteSystem, #BritishIndia, #KeralaGovernor, #IndianHistory, #SocialJustice

https://newsletter.tf/kerala-governor-claims-british-introduced-caste-system-in-india/

Did the British create India's caste system? Kerala Governor Arlekar says yes, arguing Hinduism only had a 'varna' system before colonial rule. This changes how we see history.

#CasteSystem, #BritishIndia, #KeralaGovernor, #IndianHistory, #SocialJustice

https://newsletter.tf/kerala-governor-claims-british-introduced-caste-system-in-india/

The British Empire did so much damage to the identity of Palestinians and caused the refugee crisis in British India after the partition.

#britishempire
#freepalestine
#warcrimes
#india
#britishindia

The British Empire did so much damage to the identity of Palestinians and caused the refugee crisis in British India after the partition.

#britishempire
#freepalestine
#warcrimes
#india
#britishindia

The British Empire did so much damage to the identity of Palestinians and caused the refugee crisis in British India after the partition.

#britishempire
#freepalestine
#warcrimes
#india
#britishindia

⬆️ @ferret

>> The war doesn't start when they inevitably retaliate against your invasion of their home.

It wasn't an #invasion. It was #UnitedNations vote to partition #BritishPalestine into #TwoStates — #Israel & #Palestine for the 2 major ethnicities in the region.

Months earlier in 1947, #India and #Pakistan accepted another #UNGA vote to partition #BritishIndia into 2 states.

Palestinians never fought #Ottomans or #British for freedom. THEY REJECTED compromise and chose war against Israel

⬆️ @ferret

>> The war doesn't start when they inevitably retaliate against your invasion of their home.

It wasn't an #invasion. It was #UnitedNations vote to partition #BritishPalestine into #TwoStates — #Israel & #Palestine for the 2 major ethnicities in the region.

Months earlier in 1947, #India and #Pakistan accepted another #UNGA vote to partition #BritishIndia into 2 states.

Palestinians never fought #Ottomans or #British for freedom. THEY REJECTED compromise and chose war against Israel

"Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century
[…]
• Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
• The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
• In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered."

Sullivan, Hickel, 2022 : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169

@histodons 🧶

#progress #appropriation #enclosures #landGrab #economics #property #theft #capitalism #power #ownership #stateViolence #slavery #capitalization #history #anthropology #bioPower #bioPolitics #reputation #domination #beliefs #manufacturingConsent #whiteSupremacy #India #colonialism #BritishRule #BritishIndia #BritishEmpire #UK #Britain

"Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century
[…]
• Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
• The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
• In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered."

Sullivan, Hickel, 2022 : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169

@histodons 🧶

#progress #appropriation #enclosures #landGrab #economics #property #theft #capitalism #power #ownership #stateViolence #slavery #capitalization #history #anthropology #bioPower #bioPolitics #reputation #domination #beliefs #manufacturingConsent #whiteSupremacy #India #colonialism #BritishRule #BritishIndia #BritishEmpire #UK #Britain

"Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century
[…]
• Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
• The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
• In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered."

Sullivan, Hickel, 2022 : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169

@histodons 🧶

#progress #appropriation #enclosures #landGrab #economics #property #theft #capitalism #power #ownership #stateViolence #slavery #capitalization #history #anthropology #bioPower #bioPolitics #reputation #domination #beliefs #manufacturingConsent #whiteSupremacy #India #colonialism #BritishRule #BritishIndia #BritishEmpire #UK #Britain

"Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century
[…]
• Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
• The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
• In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered."

Sullivan, Hickel, 2022 : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169

@histodons 🧶

#progress #appropriation #enclosures #landGrab #economics #property #theft #capitalism #power #ownership #stateViolence #slavery #capitalization #history #anthropology #bioPower #bioPolitics #reputation #domination #beliefs #manufacturingConsent #whiteSupremacy #India #colonialism #BritishRule #BritishIndia #BritishEmpire #UK #Britain

⬆️ @Npars01

>> Rich people get richer off #genocide.

Sorry for multiple posts — 500 char limit 🙂

Partition of #BritishIndia into #India & #Pakistan was not about rich getting richer, nor was it about #genocide.

A #TwoStateSolution was pragmatic for an intractable problem — inability of people of different religions to coexist.

#Israel & #Palestine have similar problems, and if the latter had not recklessly rejected the UN proposal, it would arguably be in a better situation.

@QasimRashid

⬆️ @Npars01

>> Rich people get richer off #genocide.

Sorry for multiple posts — 500 char limit 🙂

Partition of #BritishIndia into #India & #Pakistan was not about rich getting richer, nor was it about #genocide.

A #TwoStateSolution was pragmatic for an intractable problem — inability of people of different religions to coexist.

#Israel & #Palestine have similar problems, and if the latter had not recklessly rejected the UN proposal, it would arguably be in a better situation.

@QasimRashid

⬆️ @Npars01

>> Rich people get richer off #genocide. #Russia was built off genocidal population removals too.

I agree with that, but it's the last word in that sentence that bothers me — "too" implies you are agreeing with @QasimRashid's spin on what happened in 1947.

Partition of #BritishIndia led to relocation of 15M+, but it was after both #India & #Pakistan accepted the #UN resolution, unlike #Palestine, which spat on it. Also, the movement was within the same land, not to a 3rd country

⬆️ @Npars01

>> Rich people get richer off #genocide. #Russia was built off genocidal population removals too.

I agree with that, but it's the last word in that sentence that bothers me — "too" implies you are agreeing with @QasimRashid's spin on what happened in 1947.

Partition of #BritishIndia led to relocation of 15M+, but it was after both #India & #Pakistan accepted the #UN resolution, unlike #Palestine, which spat on it. Also, the movement was within the same land, not to a 3rd country

⬆️ @Tattered

>> #Freedom that is rewriting school textbooks to erase ideas incompatible with Hindutva? As soon as you accept a few million deaths for a better world, you have become a monster.

You have pivoted away from whether accepting a #TwoStateSolution proposed by #UN for #BritishIndia as well as for #BritishMandate in #Palestine was better for all.

#Hindutva is a different monster.

#EcstasyAndAmnesia is #worthReading if you haven't read it already ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304

@badrihippo

⬆️ @Tattered

>> #Freedom that is rewriting school textbooks to erase ideas incompatible with Hindutva? As soon as you accept a few million deaths for a better world, you have become a monster.

You have pivoted away from whether accepting a #TwoStateSolution proposed by #UN for #BritishIndia as well as for #BritishMandate in #Palestine was better for all.

#Hindutva is a different monster.

#EcstasyAndAmnesia is #worthReading if you haven't read it already ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441485737099304

@badrihippo

⬆️ @badrihippo

>> #Indians who still think the #USA is not evil, here's the #WallStreetJournal thinking #Partition was a good thing… 😱

#WSJ is owned by the #Murdoch's family— might as well be from #Mordor, not #US.

The cases are not comparable. #India and #Pakistan agreed to a #UN-proposed #TwoStateSolution in 1947 but #Palestinians rejected similar for #BritishMandate in #Palestine the same year.

Partition of #BritishIndia was actually better for India — Just look at Pakistan now 🙂

@jopy

⬆️ @badrihippo

>> #Indians who still think the #USA is not evil, here's the #WallStreetJournal thinking #Partition was a good thing… 😱

#WSJ is owned by the #Murdoch's family— might as well be from #Mordor, not #US.

The cases are not comparable. #India and #Pakistan agreed to a #UN-proposed #TwoStateSolution in 1947 but #Palestinians rejected similar for #BritishMandate in #Palestine the same year.

Partition of #BritishIndia was actually better for India — Just look at Pakistan now 🙂

@jopy

⬆️ @Nochem

>> #OttomanEmpire was expansive, with #Arabs, #Jews, and #Christians as subjects. The #Caliph had influence as far as #BritishIndia.

Today, #India informed #Oman about records pertaining to #Turkish #OttomanEmpire in the #NationalArchives of India #NAI and handed over a list of 70 documents which cover a period from 1793-1953.

Subjects incl. treaties between #BritishIndia and #Sultan of #Muscat, and between India, Muscat and Oman.

@escarpment @lukevanin

https://www.thestatesman.com/world/india-oman-to-cooperate-in-the-field-of-archives-1503272543.html

⬆️ @Nochem

>> #OttomanEmpire was expansive, with #Arabs, #Jews, and #Christians as subjects. The #Caliph had influence as far as #BritishIndia.

Today, #India informed #Oman about records pertaining to #Turkish #OttomanEmpire in the #NationalArchives of India #NAI and handed over a list of 70 documents which cover a period from 1793-1953.

Subjects incl. treaties between #BritishIndia and #Sultan of #Muscat, and between India, Muscat and Oman.

@escarpment @lukevanin

https://www.thestatesman.com/world/india-oman-to-cooperate-in-the-field-of-archives-1503272543.html

⬆️ @Nochem

>> In October 1948… people were simply dumped into Gaza. People who personally did not wage war, but were simply Palestinian. They lost their property and …

This is NOT a uniquely #Palestinian experience.

In 1947, just before Palestinians rejected a #TwoStateSolution, there was a similar partition of #BritishIndia into #India and #Pakistan.

There was still a #civilWar. 15+ million were displaced. Most lost everything.

But both are FREE now because both accepted the solution.

⬆️ @Nochem

>> In October 1948… people were simply dumped into Gaza. People who personally did not wage war, but were simply Palestinian. They lost their property and …

This is NOT a uniquely #Palestinian experience.

In 1947, just before Palestinians rejected a #TwoStateSolution, there was a similar partition of #BritishIndia into #India and #Pakistan.

There was still a #civilWar. 15+ million were displaced. Most lost everything.

But both are FREE now because both accepted the solution.

⬆️ @Nochem

>> Strangely, my Moldovian ancestors lived under the Ottoman "yoke" too, until the early 19th Century.

Yes, the #OttomanEmpire was expansive, with #Arabs, #Jews, and #Christians as subjects. The #Caliph had influence as far as #BritishIndia in the east.

Had #Turkey accepted #British offer to keep #Palestine in exchange for exiting #WWI early, Palestinians would remain under #TurkishYoke with NO complaints, as in 400 prior years.

Their only problem is Jews.

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @Nochem

>> Strangely, my Moldovian ancestors lived under the Ottoman "yoke" too, until the early 19th Century.

Yes, the #OttomanEmpire was expansive, with #Arabs, #Jews, and #Christians as subjects. The #Caliph had influence as far as #BritishIndia in the east.

Had #Turkey accepted #British offer to keep #Palestine in exchange for exiting #WWI early, Palestinians would remain under #TurkishYoke with NO complaints, as in 400 prior years.

Their only problem is Jews.

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo

Oh please, stop this BS about compassion and creator.

You are a #Hamas-simp who does not see lack of compassion in deliberately killing civilians using rocket launches.

What happened to APA research paper you were going to write?

You learned nothing from the #UncannySimilarities between #BritishIndia and #BritishPalestine, nor from the difference between #Gandhi (peaceful) & #Bose (violent)

And you have the chutzpah to lecture me on peace and compassion?

@TruthSandwich

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo

Oh please, stop this BS about compassion and creator.

You are a #Hamas-simp who does not see lack of compassion in deliberately killing civilians using rocket launches.

What happened to APA research paper you were going to write?

You learned nothing from the #UncannySimilarities between #BritishIndia and #BritishPalestine, nor from the difference between #Gandhi (peaceful) & #Bose (violent)

And you have the chutzpah to lecture me on peace and compassion?

@TruthSandwich

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo

"Give me blood, and I shall give you freedom," he roared.

They gave him blood, but he did not give them #freedom.

#Bose was a freedom fighter who differed with #Gandhi on #nonViolence and wanted to wage war against #colonial rulers in #BritishIndia.

Among #UncannySimilarities, we can replace #Providence with #Allah, and #Nippon with #Iran in his speech, "Through the grace of Providence and through the help of generous Nippon [old name of #Japan]"

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-full-text-of-netaji-s-historic-give-me-blood-and-i-shall-give-you-freedom-speech-2169165

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo

"Give me blood, and I shall give you freedom," he roared.

They gave him blood, but he did not give them #freedom.

#Bose was a freedom fighter who differed with #Gandhi on #nonViolence and wanted to wage war against #colonial rulers in #BritishIndia.

Among #UncannySimilarities, we can replace #Providence with #Allah, and #Nippon with #Iran in his speech, "Through the grace of Providence and through the help of generous Nippon [old name of #Japan]"

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-full-text-of-netaji-s-historic-give-me-blood-and-i-shall-give-you-freedom-speech-2169165

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo
#TrueStory

There are #UncannySimilarities in centuries of #TurkishOccupation of #Arabia-#Palestine & those of #MuslimOccupation of #MedievalIndia — both subsequently under #BritishEmpire, & both fighting for independence.

There were 2 factions fighting #BritishIndia for independence — one violent, led by #Bose, aligned with #Japan & #Nazi #Germany Axis, while the other peaceful, led by #Gandhi

Guess which one succeeded?

Try freeing yourself from #Hamas & #AxisOfResistance

⬆️ @ayoubabedrabbo
#TrueStory

There are #UncannySimilarities in centuries of #TurkishOccupation of #Arabia-#Palestine & those of #MuslimOccupation of #MedievalIndia — both subsequently under #BritishEmpire, & both fighting for independence.

There were 2 factions fighting #BritishIndia for independence — one violent, led by #Bose, aligned with #Japan & #Nazi #Germany Axis, while the other peaceful, led by #Gandhi

Guess which one succeeded?

Try freeing yourself from #Hamas & #AxisOfResistance

⬆️ @TruthSandwich

Unfortunately, I can't see any of your toots from that fateful day, so I assumed that you wrote the quoted text (below).

It was in the context of partition of #BritishIndia into #India & #Pakistan, but because of myriad #UncannySimilarities, it also applied to partition of #BritishPalestine.

#TwoStateSolution was accepted by #Israelis but rejected by #Arabs.

Mortal enemies must share land that is partitioned to keep them separate, and BOTH sides need to make sacrifices.

⬆️ @TruthSandwich

Unfortunately, I can't see any of your toots from that fateful day, so I assumed that you wrote the quoted text (below).

It was in the context of partition of #BritishIndia into #India & #Pakistan, but because of myriad #UncannySimilarities, it also applied to partition of #BritishPalestine.

#TwoStateSolution was accepted by #Israelis but rejected by #Arabs.

Mortal enemies must share land that is partitioned to keep them separate, and BOTH sides need to make sacrifices.

⬆️ @vidyarthi @SteveThompson

#BritishIndia was partitioned because #Muslims wanted a separate #Muslim homeland.

At partition, #Pakistan chose to be #Islamist. #India chose #secularism.

In 1976, 42nd Amendment of Constitution of India inserted "#secular" and "#socialist" in the preamble.

In 1994 Supreme Court established that India has been secular since formation of republic.

#Hindutva #Hindutwa #religiousNationalism has since hijacked #Hinduism (#Hindu religion) & robbed it of secularity

⬆️ @vidyarthi @SteveThompson

#BritishIndia was partitioned because #Muslims wanted a separate #Muslim homeland.

At partition, #Pakistan chose to be #Islamist. #India chose #secularism.

In 1976, 42nd Amendment of Constitution of India inserted "#secular" and "#socialist" in the preamble.

In 1994 Supreme Court established that India has been secular since formation of republic.

#Hindutva #Hindutwa #religiousNationalism has since hijacked #Hinduism (#Hindu religion) & robbed it of secularity

#IndigoRevolt captures stark differences between 19th c #Hindu #cultivators (#ryot) in #BritishIndia & #Jewish ones from same time in what is now known as #Israel

Under #BritishYoke, ryots in the #India #colony were FORCED to plant #indigo instead of food crops on their own lands

When groups of settlers BOUGHT #ME land to cultivate it for themselves because they were barred from that in lands they had fled due to persecution, eg #Romania, #colonies meant something else

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_revolt

#IndigoRevolt captures stark differences between 19th c #Hindu #cultivators (#ryot) in #BritishIndia & #Jewish ones from same time in what is now known as #Israel

Under #BritishYoke, ryots in the #India #colony were FORCED to plant #indigo instead of food crops on their own lands

When groups of settlers BOUGHT #ME land to cultivate it for themselves because they were barred from that in lands they had fled due to persecution, eg #Romania, #colonies meant something else

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_revolt

⬆️ @TruthSandwich @emma

I understand there might be grey areas too. A terrorist for one might be a freedom fighter for another.

Here the case is rather stark. I explain the #Khalistan issue here ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111501161171427318

When #BritishIndia was partitioned in 1947 on #Hindu-#Muslim lines, #Punjab was part of #independent #India & remains its integral part

India is NOT “occupying” it.

Khalistan is not a "freedom" movement.

#Canada knows bomb plotters for both airplanes operated from Canada

⬆️ @TruthSandwich @emma

I understand there might be grey areas too. A terrorist for one might be a freedom fighter for another.

Here the case is rather stark. I explain the #Khalistan issue here ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111501161171427318

When #BritishIndia was partitioned in 1947 on #Hindu-#Muslim lines, #Punjab was part of #independent #India & remains its integral part

India is NOT “occupying” it.

Khalistan is not a "freedom" movement.

#Canada knows bomb plotters for both airplanes operated from Canada

⬆️ @TruthSandwich

>> My point is that creating Israel increased the risk of genocide.

That's where you & I also disagree on partition of #BritishIndia as well.

Why is it that mortal enemies #India & #Pakistan agreed to split the land and go their own ways in 1947, but #Palestinians refused to go along with a similar partition even though #Israel agreed?

#Arabs lost in 1948 fighting for Palestinians #inTheirName, but losers don't get to set terms of peace

@Bam @8124 @notwithstanding @martin

⬆️ @TruthSandwich

>> My point is that creating Israel increased the risk of genocide.

That's where you & I also disagree on partition of #BritishIndia as well.

Why is it that mortal enemies #India & #Pakistan agreed to split the land and go their own ways in 1947, but #Palestinians refused to go along with a similar partition even though #Israel agreed?

#Arabs lost in 1948 fighting for Palestinians #inTheirName, but losers don't get to set terms of peace

@Bam @8124 @notwithstanding @martin

⬆️ @TruthSandwich @notwithstanding @martin

#Muslims were not indigenous to #India. Yet, they #occupied it for centuries before #British.

Imagine if India denied #Pakistan's right to exist, claimed the entirety of #BritishIndia, and threw tantrums to restore both borders (#Pakistan East & West) to pre-1947 borders & reconstitute undivided India, Muslims would have a fit in reverse indignation.

Why? What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

#TwoStateSolution #UncannySimilarities

⬆️ @TruthSandwich @notwithstanding @martin

#Muslims were not indigenous to #India. Yet, they #occupied it for centuries before #British.

Imagine if India denied #Pakistan's right to exist, claimed the entirety of #BritishIndia, and threw tantrums to restore both borders (#Pakistan East & West) to pre-1947 borders & reconstitute undivided India, Muslims would have a fit in reverse indignation.

Why? What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

#TwoStateSolution #UncannySimilarities

@TruthSandwich @ArenaCops

I'm not advocating that they go anywhere, but there is no such thing as "nowhere for them to go."

For comparison, here are the #Jewish experiences as well as those of #Hindus and #Muslims of #BritishIndia in 1947 ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

@TruthSandwich @ArenaCops

I'm not advocating that they go anywhere, but there is no such thing as "nowhere for them to go."

For comparison, here are the #Jewish experiences as well as those of #Hindus and #Muslims of #BritishIndia in 1947 ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

100000s have been displaced from their homes and many fear the only option is #exile to #Sinai.

But they don’t want that. They say if that happened, they might never come back.

#ForcedExile is horrible ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

Like the 15+ MILLION #Hindus and #Muslims #displaced in 1947.

They left everything behind and could never come back after #BritishIndia was partitioned into #India and #Pakistan.

#Displacement #ForcedDisplacement

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazans-say-they-fear-fate-worse-than-bombs-permanent-exile-2023-12-15/

⬆️ @ashmueli
You are correctly tugging at multiple threads.

1. #Secular #oneState or #noStateSolution is a fantasy. This is informed by our collective experience in the partition of #BritishIndia, which had many #uncannySimilarities with #BritishPalestine, least of which is that BOTH were offered #TwoStateSolution in 1947.

Mortal enemies #India & #Pakistan settled — Neither was perfectly happy, but it was good enough.

There was still violence, but neither tried to eliminate other

@Darryl
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