#redditblackout — Public Fediverse posts
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Reddit Tells Protesting Mods It Will Remove Them If They Don’t Stop, As Reddit’s Subreddit For The Blind Can No Longer Be Moderated By Blind Users | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Tells Protesting Mods It Will Remove Them If They Don’t Stop, As Reddit’s Subreddit For The Blind Can No Longer Be Moderated By Blind Users | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Tells Protesting Mods It Will Remove Them If They Don’t Stop, As Reddit’s Subreddit For The Blind Can No Longer Be Moderated By Blind Users | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Tells Protesting Mods It Will Remove Them If They Don’t Stop, As Reddit’s Subreddit For The Blind Can No Longer Be Moderated By Blind Users | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Tells Protesting Mods It Will Remove Them If They Don’t Stop, As Reddit’s Subreddit For The Blind Can No Longer Be Moderated By Blind Users | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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I predict that what's going on with Reddit is going to become an object lesson in future classes on "how to not piss off absolutely everyone in a community that was largely built by volunteers."
#Reddit #RedditMigration #RedditBlackout #stupid #idiotic #HowToPissOffEveryone #volunteers #ObjectLesson #classes
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Grumble grumble conspiracy grumble 😐 (Sarcasm)
Who needs Reddit anyway.. I've deleted the app from my phone.#radiacode #geology #nuclear #canada #ottawa #censorship #science #stem #gammaspectroscopy #spicyrockhunting #reddit #redditMigration #redditblackout #radiation
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Suggestion for Reddit mods and community: Don’t die on this hill. Don’t delete your account, and don’t get kicked out of mod position. Instead, stick around and help guide people to leave Reddit for these free spaces of the Fediverse. Drain Reddit perpetually.
#Reddit #reddark #RedditAlternatives #redditalternative #RedditAPIProtest #redditblackout #redditblackouts #redditgoesdark #RedditMigration -
Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats To Protesting Mods, As Ad Buyers Leave | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats To Protesting Mods, As Ad Buyers Leave | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats To Protesting Mods, As Ad Buyers Leave | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats To Protesting Mods, As Ad Buyers Leave | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats To Protesting Mods, As Ad Buyers Leave | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private - The Verge
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private - The Verge
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private - The Verge
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private - The Verge
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Redditors Found a New NSFW Way to Protest API Changes | The Mary Sue
https://www.themarysue.com/redditors-found-a-new-nsfw-way-to-protest-api-changes/
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Redditors Found a New NSFW Way to Protest API Changes | The Mary Sue
https://www.themarysue.com/redditors-found-a-new-nsfw-way-to-protest-api-changes/
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Redditors Found a New NSFW Way to Protest API Changes | The Mary Sue
https://www.themarysue.com/redditors-found-a-new-nsfw-way-to-protest-api-changes/
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Redditors Found a New NSFW Way to Protest API Changes | The Mary Sue
https://www.themarysue.com/redditors-found-a-new-nsfw-way-to-protest-api-changes/
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #FuckUSpez
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Since, but of course, the top comment on my (aggressively down-moderated, possibly by HN itself) Hacker News thread Utterly Missed The Plot (I'm shocked, shocked...):
The point of this post is that the contributors to this subreddit are one person. And has been for going on ten years.
The moderator team is one person. And has been or going on ten years.
Much of the readership is ... one person, who refers back to older posts to link elsewhere. (Though I'll admit that according to Reddit's stats, surprisingly more than that.)
That the subreddit had already been largely on hiatus for the past three years, because of preexisting frustrations with Reddit's leadership and direction. The subject of much of the front page of the subreddit.
Archive snapshot from this past February (there's been no change to content since then): https://web.archive.org/web/20220224161047/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/
That the moderator and contributor had long voiced concerns over precisely the issue of Reddit seizing control of subreddits, and a lack of any ongoing right over a subreddit, no matter how personal and how long it had been:
Quoting from "No, this subreddit is not fully dead yet, but ...":
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Years before "profile pages" became a thing, several people started what were effectively personal subreddits. /r/TalesByToxlab[1] is a classic instance, and also an exemplar of the conflicts arising. This is not my sub, and I'm not nominating it, to be ABSOLUTELY clear.
TBT was a personal space where one person shared their personal stories, some from real life, some fictional.
And I say "was", because /u/toxlab[2] died three years ago. A fact which large sites need to deal with.
(A ways back I'd computed that a site at the scale of Google+, with a nominal 3 billion profiles, saw on the order of 10k newly dead accounts every day. Reddit operates at about 1/10 that scale. Do the math.)
Should TBT be recycled back into the pool? It was never a "community site". What any modmail or logs, which might reveal personal messages and communications? I get these myself from time to time via several subs.
Reddit's stance has long been that subreddits are community, not personal, resources. For large and leading subs, this may well be appropriate. For small efforts, it almost certainly is not.
That concern is a chief one I've had with Reddit since beginning a few experiments of my own. I wrote on various aspects of Reddit which raise flags[3] five years ago. And this weighs heavily (though other factors contribute) in my decision to move my principle posting activity elsewhere[4], specifically to a blog whose features, content, and presentation are far more under my control.
I don't want my subs to become zombies or be allocated to others. When they're done, they should die, and be buried, their electrons recycled. And I suspect I'm not the only one.
https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/dt527o/no_this_subreddit_is_not_fully_dead_yet_but/
Links:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/TalesByToxlab
https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/u/toxlab
This is no longer about arguably large and "community" subreddits which might arguably have some thin line of reasoning to legitimise Reddit's corporate claim to them, but small group and individual efforts, with private data and communications potentially being handed over to third parties. Issues I'd raised years ago, now proving to have been quite prescient concerns. One-person subreddits.
And in this case, that one person happens to be me.
#Reddit #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout #RedditBoycott #RedditMigration #RedditAPI
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The Reddit story goes deeper, and drags in Ycombinator and its popular news aggregator Hacker News
My submission earlier today about Reddit seeking to seize my personal subreddit of going on ten years drew 405 votes and 299 comments, but ranked 42nd on the archive page https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2023-06-22&p=2, well below posts with far fewer votes and/or comments.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36434885
I've inquired as to whether that was due to flags or HN moderator actions (automated or manual).
But ...
... HN's chief moderator dang had commented earlier today that Reddit content is now penalised, and has been since "a while ago": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36435312
I note that this conflicts with, and contradicts, a comment from a week ago reiterating HN's policy of moderating less not more on stories concerning YC companies, specifically noting that this was despite the somewhat distant-in-time and tenuous present relationship between YC and Reddit.
And that comment appears to be the first HN's mod team bothered mention the fact, as an HN site search reveals:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36366909
The fact is that Reddit are an Internet juggernaut, that they are going explicitly against prior commitments, promises, and policies (both sitewide and in my case specifically communicated to me three years ago by a Reddit admin ggAlex: https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/dt527o/no_this_subreddit_is_not_fully_dead_yet_but/f6vj489/
This war-against-its-power-users has made international headlines.
HN plays a de facto role of customer-support-of-last-resort, which dang has specifically acknowledged:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34941474.
And yes, that can be repetitive and annoying and repetitively annoying ... but ... it is often one of the only viable venues for those who are disempowered to be heard.
Or, in /u/toxlab's case, the dead: https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/TalesFromRetail/comments/5a2xj3/everett_redditor_utoxlab_of_rtalesbytoxlab_passed/
HN's present Reddit policy both amplifies an existing power discrepancy (that of Reddit members against the company) and puts HN's own credibility at risk.
HN cannot simultaneously claim to:
- moderate YC companies less,
- impose a penalty for submissions concerning a specific YC company, and ]- fail to disclose the existence of that penalty at all.
I'm well aware of the jump in Reddit-related traffic, and have commented at length on it (per my wont): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36435319
The fact that HN have now put their thumb on the scale without notifying either submitters or the general readership concerns me greatly.
How about HN:
- De-thumbs that scale
- Clearly and prominently disclose the fact of the penalty, and the dates at which it was applied and lifted.
- Applies a case-by-case assessment based on new significant information.
- Provides a mechanism for aggregating similar classes of stories. E.g., the tens to hundreds of thousands of small and/or personal subreddits which Reddit are now acting to seize control of.
Hacker News's own credibility is very much at risk here and that itself is a serious concern to the site.
(Communicated to HN's mod team via email, toot here adapted slightly.)
#Reddit #HackerNew #HN #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout #ycombinator
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Reddit Tells Mods That Protesting By Changing Sub To NSFW Violates The Rules | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Tells Mods That Protesting By Changing Sub To NSFW Violates The Rules | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Tells Mods That Protesting By Changing Sub To NSFW Violates The Rules | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Tells Mods That Protesting By Changing Sub To NSFW Violates The Rules | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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As my toot notes, I'd been very aware that Reddit could reclaim the subreddit according to its rules then in place. The pinned posts on the sub, for 2 and 3 years respectively as of this past February, discussed that amongst other concerns. The Wayback Machine shows those here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220224161047/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/
One of those posts specifically addressed my preferences for how my subreddit should allowed to die and rest in ... ouch, typo, "piece". That post received an admin response saying that it would be a good candidate for just that.
#Reddit #FuckReddit #ModCodeOfConduct #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout
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First they came for /r/pics ... now Reddit are coming for the individual personal subreddits
Quite some years ago I'd realised that amongst the problems with using Reddit as a personal blogging space (my avatar here is a relic of that, if you'd not put the two together) was that I do not in fact have any permanent claim to that space.
Reddit's previous policies of moderator re-assignment bothered me. The policies apparently instituted September 2022 and being rolled out aggressively in recent days ... have not weakened my concerns.
And, checking in now, I find a day-old modmail to /r/dredmorbius, a subreddit which only ever was my own personal posts with comments from a few friends, and about 1,000 subscribers ... has received a notice to reclaim by /u/Modcodeofconduct, screenshot attached here.
I have not abandoned the sub. I had closed it in protest of Reddit's continued failings and war against its volunteer moderators and general community.
And I will not go quietly.
#Reddit #FuckReddit #ModCodeOfConduct #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout
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Seven Rules For Internet CEOs To Avoid Enshittification | Techdirt
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/21/seven-rules-for-internet-ceos-to-avoid-enshittification/
#MuskratKills #NoBillionaires #RIPTwitter #Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Seven Rules For Internet CEOs To Avoid Enshittification | Techdirt
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/21/seven-rules-for-internet-ceos-to-avoid-enshittification/
#MuskratKills #NoBillionaires #RIPTwitter #Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Seven Rules For Internet CEOs To Avoid Enshittification | Techdirt
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/21/seven-rules-for-internet-ceos-to-avoid-enshittification/
#MuskratKills #NoBillionaires #RIPTwitter #Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Experiments With Removing Mods, Blocking Attempts To Switch Subs To NSFW | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Experiments With Removing Mods, Blocking Attempts To Switch Subs To NSFW | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Experiments With Removing Mods, Blocking Attempts To Switch Subs To NSFW | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Reddit Experiments With Removing Mods, Blocking Attempts To Switch Subs To NSFW | Techdirt
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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What we’re learning from the Reddit blackout https://www.platformer.news/p/what-were-learning-from-the-reddit
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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What we’re learning from the Reddit blackout https://www.platformer.news/p/what-were-learning-from-the-reddit
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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What we’re learning from the Reddit blackout https://www.platformer.news/p/what-were-learning-from-the-reddit
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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What we’re learning from the Reddit blackout https://www.platformer.news/p/what-were-learning-from-the-reddit
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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What we’re learning from the Reddit blackout https://www.platformer.news/p/what-were-learning-from-the-reddit
#Reddark #RedditBlackout #Enshittification #RemoveHuffman #ResignSpez
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Steve Huffman: "Apollo threatened us, said they'll 'make it easy' if Reddit gave them $10 million. This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us."
Luckily, Apollo developer Christian Selig had proof that Huffman lied.
While the media coverage (and many written subreddit positions) focus on the API changes, it's the justified anger at Huffman's dishonesty that fuels many of the redditor protests.
(1 of 2)
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Well Reddit Corporate has decided to go full draconian on moderators participating in the #RedditBlackout and #RedditStrike .
There is a clear and obvious threat presented here, for a subreddit of 270 members....
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Kbin, Lemmy, the landed gentry, and the rise of “threadiverse” - Reddit users, mods and entire sub-reddits are moving, migrating to fediverse sites like #Kbin and #Lemmy. “…if they (Reddit) somehow cobble together enough moderators to keep going and people reluctantly stay there for a while, everybody will keep looking for alternatives.” #Reddit #RedditMigration #RedditAlternatives #RedditBlackout #Redditapi #SocialMedia #Fediverse https://privacy.thenexus.today/8-days-later-draft-kbin-lemmy-landed-gentry/
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#Reddit is only valuable if the people are on it. The recent move by #Spez is to monetize Reddit and make lots of money off user-generated content and the free work of mods. If you don’t want to spend your time making techbro CEOs even wealthier, the solution is pretty simple - migrate elsewhere, preferably to federated alternatives. Here’s a great resource for finding new communities. Bookmark it. Use it.
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While I disagree with u/spez's actions, I understand his perspective. Reddit's most valuable asset is its curated text data for training Large Language Models like ChatGPT. Closing down the API protects that asset. He's likely betting that subreddit moderation will be solved with LLMs so the mods that generated that data are of little concern going forward. There will be only one chance to monetize this data asset.
The reason I disagree with u/spez's actions is because I don't believe this asset belongs to him. I'm sure he's protected from a legal perspective but from a philosophical perspective, when a user writes an idea on an online forum, they don't forfeit ownership of that idea. People who contributed to Reddit even 12 months ago had no idea their thoughts will be monetized and consumed by LLMs. We need laws to protect people's data and to democratize data assets.
I also wish u/spez would just be honest about what he's doing. Telling possibly career ending lies about developers and disregarding the mods that made Reddit is inexcusable. It's clear that Reddit has succeeded despite u/spez's leadership.
#Reddit #RedditBlackout #RedditMigration #Spez #Huffman #SteveHuffman #LargeLanguageModels #LLM #LLMs
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@morebento @dangillmor Hoffman is now threatening my sub of a few hundred thousand users:
Absolute fascist scare tactics, trying to get people to tell on each other and abandon their friends. #redditblackout #reddit #redditstrike #spez
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With my HN FP archive updated through yesterday, as one does, updated occurrences of "Reddit" in front-page story titles:
2007 41
2008 31
2009 15
2010 44
2011 41
2012 46
2013 28
2014 27
2015 27
2016 19
2017 15
2018 15
2019 12
2020 24
2021 12
2022 13
2023 28And what's the occurrence by month in 2023, you ask? Why, I'll tell you:
1 1
2 1
3 0
4 1
5 3
6 22And those 22 stories in the first half of June are ... not positive:
- Teddit – An alternative Reddit front-end focused on privacy
- [dupe] Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases
- Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
- Reddit’s plan to kill third-party apps sparks widespread protests
- Reddit's Recently Announced API Changes, and the future of /r/blind
- Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diffusion
- ArchiveTeam has saved over 11.2B Reddit links
- Archive your Reddit data before it's too late
- Reddit Strike Has Started
- Thousands of subreddits pledge to go dark after the Reddit CEO’s recent remarks
- Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years
- Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?
- Reddit.com appears to be having an outage
- Show HN: Zsync, a Reddit Alternative with the Goal to Reward Quality Comments
- Apollo’s Christian Selig explains his fight with Reddit – and why users revolted
- The Reddit blackout will continue
- The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes
- Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely
- Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts
- Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
- Louis Rossmann calls community to leave Reddit
- Reddit App – Suspicious high number of recent 5 star, one word reviews
#HackerNews #HackerNewsAnalytics #Reddit #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout
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#Reddit blackout goes DEFCON 4. In response to the CEO's claim he's going to let communities "vote out bad moderators" the moderators have held their own elections in some of the largest communities the users have spoken: Now only pictures of John Oliver will be allowed in /r/pics and /r/gifs
This is freaking hilarious!
#johnoliver #redditblackout #activism #redditfascism #fuckReddit #spez #pics #gifs #humor #faafo
