#immunitydebt — Public Fediverse posts
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CW: "immunity debt" vs actual immune disruption
Useful piece at The BMJ, about covid messing with T cells etc.
Depressing that there's still so much denial in this area. Anthony Leonardi was trying to raise awareness of T cell damage back in 2021. (Difficult to make head or tail of his relentlessly non-layperson explanations, but he was at least talking about it.)
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Here's the email I just sent to #ScienceFriday explaining why I will no longer listen to them.
(Text in the replies.)
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#COVID #CovidIsNotOver #ImmunityDebt #science -
"Like many debunked ideas, hygiene theory and the myth of the bored immune system have become entrenched. A couple of years ago, hygiene theory got repackaged as "immunity debt." Now Americans, Canadians, and many Europeans think they need to get sick to stay healthy. The elites have absolutely no problem with that. It saves them countless billions to let everyone continue thinking they're better off letting diseases run around in their cells."
https://www.okdoomer.io/how-your-immune-system-actually-works/
#immunityDebt #publicHealth #inequality -
"Like many debunked ideas, hygiene theory and the myth of the bored immune system have become entrenched. A couple of years ago, hygiene theory got repackaged as "immunity debt." Now Americans, Canadians, and many Europeans think they need to get sick to stay healthy. The elites have absolutely no problem with that. It saves them countless billions...."
https://www.okdoomer.io/how-your-immune-system-actually-works/
#immunityDebt #publicHealth #inequality -
‘Immunity debt’ is a misguided and dangerous concept.
Source: https://archive.md/60s0p
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Wearing a respirator may help you pay off #ImmunityDebt
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We're in year 3 of the "immunity debt" hypothesis & here's a headline, flu cases in Ohio are more than double the average of cases *between the 2017-2018 & 2022-2023 flu seasons*.
2 OF THE 5 FLU PERIODS IN THE AVERAGE were so anomalously high that somebody had to invent that stupid idea, and yet we're beating that average handily. Sure is taking us a long time to recover from that period when we weren't allowed to cough on each other back in 2021.
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/ohio-flu-activity-is-high-hospitalizations-over-30-above-5-year-average #covid #immunitydebt
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Are People Getting Sick More Since the Covid Pandemic? By Kristen V. Brown
"Immunity debt: No scientific data to support this theory"
"Immunity theft: An area of growing scientific inquiry"
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Grateful to @_L1vY_ for porting such good information to mastodon regarding #covid #ImmuneSystem damage and helping to debunk the disinfo myth of #ImmunityDebt which tries to blame the on-going rise in respiratory illnesses on the lockdown.
Some people may find an html based version of Dr. Lisa Iannattone's @lisa_iannattone informative and evidence based (with links) thread easier to read and navigate...
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The Dwight Schrute Covid Strategy, life imitating art slightly too much.
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"Immune system training bag" with N95 masks being handed out. 😏 Seen in foyer of a conference last week.
☑️ #ImmunityTheft #EndemieRebellen #CovidIsNotOver #DieMaskeBleibtAuf #MediBubble #NerdHumor @phpledge
❌ #ImmunityDebt #Immunschuld 🤨RT https://chaos.social/@gittaca/111392056057453079 & https://chaos.social/@gittaca/110260445540528674
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I know we're all busy with COVID but is anybody starting to plan squashing their MERS immunity debt?
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@LALegault @breadandcircuses @jessicawildfire Next they’ll blame it on “heat debt” (a la “immunity debt”…we are ill because we haven’t gotten infected enough. Protect yourself from illness by getting infected more). Replace illness/infections with heat stroke, and voila!
#ClimateChange #HeatDebt #ImmunityDebt #COVID #StupidestTimeline
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"I was appalled to see the prime minister making those comments. And then, shortly after that, he was at a mall pressing his face up against a bunch of children — no mask. That’s the big problem with the false narrative of immunity debt: it’s encouraging people to do the exact opposite of what we need to be doing to keep everyone safe."
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"Many experts suggest what is actually occurring is what some are calling immunity theft.
"Research has found that having COVID — even a mild case — can interfere with a person's immune function for at least eight months, leaving them vulnerable. Barton is seeing children this year who get a viral infection, usually COVID, then get something else soon after."
It's not #ImmunityDebt, it's #COVID19 #ImmunityTheft.
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#ImmunityDebt - the new #FakeNews
The notion that you have to get infected to avoid getting infected defies anything I’ve come across since I first entered medical school 50 years ago.
It is dangerous spin, which is being used to justify “Let it rip”.
Don’t get sucked in.
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Ignore the title and reference to ivermectin. This article is not primarily political, but the title reflects how the pandemic in general is political. Don't let that turn you off.
The article explains our situation really well, including why so many hospitals are filling with sick kids. It's important that people understand the issues discussed in this post.
#immunodeficiency #ImmuneDysfunction #immunityDebt #LongCovid #postCOVID #OrganDamage #RSV #Strep #SickKids
https://thegauntlet.substack.com/p/with-immunity-debt-democrats-are
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I see the Daily Mail is doing Daily Mail things this morning. Seriously, we're still using the language of "immunity debt" as if that isn't going to hurl us into science-denial hell? Does #ImmunityDebt attempt to describe a real phenomenon? Sort of? Immune systems need input to create antibodies. But this doesn't come close to explaining the entire picture, and when we simplify things that aren't actually simple, we get people killed. #epidemiology #EpiFedi #EpiMastodon #DisabilityJustice
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This is a fabulous post on why people are sicker this year than in years past.
#Flu #RSV #Influenza #Fever #Cough
Hint: it's not #ImmunityDebt
#immunodeficiency #CovidIsNotOver
https://jessicawildfire.substack.com/p/it-was-never-mild-and-we-dont-have
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These data suggest, Immunity Debt only seems to apply to Covid in terms of lost life years.
Ergo Covid is the constant, not unproven theory of Immunity Debt.
Those promoting the "#ImmunityDebt" troll (https://twitter.com/decodingtrolls/status/1587847507656294401?s=46&t=SQDh6sI-232eW0aW-ALeAw) need to answer:
Why, if "Immunity Debt" is a thing, is #Covid's years of life lost in 2021 (by comparison to 2020) so massive, compared to other causes of death?
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Booked in for my flu vaccination on Friday! Last slot left this week so I jumped on it!
Hopefully it’ll be like last time and I won’t have a bruised arm.
I’d like a #Covid one too, but I don’t qualify for one, even though it’s been a year since my last one. -
Booked in for my flu vaccination on Friday! Last slot left this week so I jumped on it!
Hopefully it’ll be like last time and I won’t have a bruised arm.
I’d like a #Covid one too, but I don’t qualify for one, even though it’s been a year since my last one. -
Booked in for my flu vaccination on Friday! Last slot left this week so I jumped on it!
Hopefully it’ll be like last time and I won’t have a bruised arm.
I’d like a #Covid one too, but I don’t qualify for one, even though it’s been a year since my last one. -
Are you feeling more sickly than usual? Are your #coughs worse than before? Your hospitals might not be able to help you but there's no need to worry. At Dr. Debt, we've got you covered. #Immunitydebt. Maternal debt. Pollution debt. Radiation debt. Any kind of disease debt. (1)