#degeneracy — Public Fediverse posts

Ey. Take your demoralizing elsewhere. May I recommend #Twitter? No, I'm not calling it X.

"The #left" as a #pejorative must stop, because the talking points are basically so vein and ignorant of the problems that is clearly a result of psy-ops. #ThinkTanks got in your brain, boy.

As for me, I reject the #degeneracy and delusions of grandeur that the average #oligarch has. They're #narcissists and #hedonists. I'm about freeing people from their clutches, not fashion a iron glove.

@polarity

Apparently the escape from that is to hold a position of power or authority: in society today, your conduct can be blatantly heinous and people will say it's really justified and you're actually a good person. Must be nice to go through life like that...

#thoughts #wildfires #PalisadesFire #fires #CaliforniaFires #self #society #degeneracy

Any time I share my grievances about the Palisades Fire and how I have been victimized multiple times over (not just by the disaster itself, but by the response) all I get in reply is lies, mocking, ridicule, and flat-out bullying.

#thoughts #wildfires #PalisadesFire #fires #CaliforniaFires #self #society #degeneracy

Finally got a car insurance policy: all done on computer with Allstate, whose chat box is run by Indians. At least they don't call up their customers and bully them with multiple swear words, which is more than I can say for Americans these days...

#self #thoughts #insurance #carinsurance #society #degeneracy #offshoring #outsourcing

@ekmiller

Interesting insight of brain functions requiring both:

• electromagnetic neural nets oscillations sync
+
• underlying chemical dendritic neuronal triggers

» . These two mechanisms likely
work together to dynamically form functional networks. «

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627324002782

HT @ekmiller @matrig @StefanoFusi et al !!

ps: only dubious x
#MixedSelectivity new term ie:
#MultipleRealizability
#NeuronalEnsemble
#NeuralReuse
#Degeneracy
#Redundancy
#Contextualism
#Overlapping

#Neuroscience

@ehud

• Candidate #1

The iconic #KrebsCycle that sits at the heart of metabolism

https://nick-lane.net/books/transformer-the-deep-chemistry-of-life-and-death/

• Candidate #2

#MultipleRealizability et:

#NeuronalEnsemble
D Hebb et al.

#NeuralReuse
M L Anderson et al.

#Degeneracy #Redundancy
G M Edelman et al.

#Contextualism
C Klein et al.

#Overlapping
L Pessoa et al.

https://doi.org/10.1111/phc3.12914

@NicoleCRust

If I understand your question,
I will go for brain lesions research showing but instead reduction then plasticity —concept that everyone confuses/mixes with:

L. Pessoa et al.
#Overlapping

GM Edelman et al.
#degeneracy
#redundancy

Michael L Anderson et al. #NeuralReuse

D Hebb et al.
#NeuronalEnsemble

then as well, wtf differs those from: #MultipleRealizability ?

https://plato.stanford.edu/archivES/FALL2017/Entries/multiple-realizability/

@sganguli

L. Pessoa et al.
#Overlapping

GM Edelman et al.
#degeneracy
#redundancy

Michael L Anderson et al. #NeuralReuse

D Hebb et al.
#NeuronalEnsemble

@junosz

oh no please do not add another one, please no J!

IMHO AFAIK J's Multiple Realizability better fits into:

L. Pessoa et al.
#Overlapping

GM Edelman et al.
#degeneracy
#redundancy

Michael L Anderson et al. #NeuralReuse

D Hebb et al.
#NeuronalEnsemble

see:
https://mastodon.online/@Neurograce/110697810878967152

@elduvelle_neuro I agree with @beneuroscience @kofanchen and @alicia_izquierdo here. One very broad way to look at it could be the classic nature (genes, evolution --> #neuroethology) vs nurture (environment, epigenetics --> behavioral #neuroscience)?

To slightly rephrase what others have stated - #neurothology studies the mechanisms that the brain has evolved to function in its natural conditions. If I were to draw a venn diagram for this, there could be/is an intersection between the 2 sets (behavioral neuroscience and neuroethology) but they are 2 different sets. There's #EfficientCoding based on response to natural statistics of the animal's environment that I think lies at the intersection. While there may be a behavioral response to a stimulus in the lab, it doesn't mean that the stimulus even exists in the statistics of the animal's natural environment.

In a lab, you can rewire the auditory cortex of a ferret's brain and they can start "seeing" with their auditory cortex but it doesn't mean that in a "normal" animal's brain that's what happens.

https://www.nature.com/articles/35009043
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/rewired-ferrets-overturn-theories-of-brain-growth.html
https://web.mit.edu/surlab/publications/Newton_Sur04.pdf

I think of it this way -- there could be several mechanisms to achieve the same output (behavior) in a lab setting but that doesn't mean that the brain actually uses any or all of those mechanisms in its natural environment. Heck, even in the natural environment the brain could (and very likely does) exhibit #degeneracy where distinct structural units could give rise to the same function (behavior) under different circumstances.

Also, given the diversity of responses to the OP, adding #neurobuzz @neurobuzz 🙂​

@elduvelle_neuro I agree with @beneuroscience @kofanchen and @alicia_izquierdo here. One very broad way to look at it could be the classic nature (genes, evolution --> #neuroethology) vs nurture (environment, epigenetics --> behavioral #neuroscience)?

To slightly rephrase what others have stated - #neurothology studies the mechanisms that the brain has evolved to function in its natural conditions. If I were to draw a venn diagram for this, there could be/is an intersection between the 2 sets (behavioral neuroscience and neuroethology) but they are 2 different sets. There's #EfficientCoding based on response to natural statistics of the animal's environment that I think lies at the intersection. While there may be a behavioral response to a stimulus in the lab, it doesn't mean that the stimulus even exists in the statistics of the animal's natural environment.

In a lab, you can rewire the auditory cortex of a ferret's brain and they can start "seeing" with their auditory cortex but it doesn't mean that in a "normal" animal's brain that's what happens.

https://www.nature.com/articles/35009043
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/rewired-ferrets-overturn-theories-of-brain-growth.html
https://web.mit.edu/surlab/publications/Newton_Sur04.pdf

I think of it this way -- there could be several mechanisms to achieve the same output (behavior) in a lab setting but that doesn't mean that the brain actually uses any or all of those mechanisms in its natural environment. Heck, even in the natural environment the brain could (and very likely does) exhibit #degeneracy where distinct structural units could give rise to the same function (behavior) under different circumstances.

Also, given the diversity of responses to the OP, adding #neurobuzz @neurobuzz 🙂​

@elduvelle_neuro I agree with @beneuroscience @kofanchen and @alicia_izquierdo here. One very broad way to look at it could be the classic nature (genes, evolution --> #neuroethology) vs nurture (environment, epigenetics --> behavioral #neuroscience)?

To slightly rephrase what others have stated - #neurothology studies the mechanisms that the brain has evolved to function in its natural conditions. If I were to draw a venn diagram for this, there could be/is an intersection between the 2 sets (behavioral neuroscience and neuroethology) but they are 2 different sets. There's #EfficientCoding based on response to natural statistics of the animal's environment that I think lies at the intersection. While there may be a behavioral response to a stimulus in the lab, it doesn't mean that the stimulus even exists in the statistics of the animal's natural environment.

In a lab, you can rewire the auditory cortex of a ferret's brain and they can start "seeing" with their auditory cortex but it doesn't mean that in a "normal" animal's brain that's what happens.

https://www.nature.com/articles/35009043
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/rewired-ferrets-overturn-theories-of-brain-growth.html
https://web.mit.edu/surlab/publications/Newton_Sur04.pdf

I think of it this way -- there could be several mechanisms to achieve the same output (behavior) in a lab setting but that doesn't mean that the brain actually uses any or all of those mechanisms in its natural environment. Heck, even in the natural environment the brain could (and very likely does) exhibit #degeneracy where distinct structural units could give rise to the same function (behavior) under different circumstances.

Also, given the diversity of responses to the OP, adding #neurobuzz @neurobuzz 🙂​

@elduvelle_neuro I agree with @beneuroscience @kofanchen and @alicia_izquierdo here. One very broad way to look at it could be the classic nature (genes, evolution --> #neuroethology) vs nurture (environment, epigenetics --> behavioral #neuroscience)?

To slightly rephrase what others have stated - #neurothology studies the mechanisms that the brain has evolved to function in its natural conditions. If I were to draw a venn diagram for this, there could be/is an intersection between the 2 sets (behavioral neuroscience and neuroethology) but they are 2 different sets. There's #EfficientCoding based on response to natural statistics of the animal's environment that I think lies at the intersection. While there may be a behavioral response to a stimulus in the lab, it doesn't mean that the stimulus even exists in the statistics of the animal's natural environment.

In a lab, you can rewire the auditory cortex of a ferret's brain and they can start "seeing" with their auditory cortex but it doesn't mean that in a "normal" animal's brain that's what happens.

https://www.nature.com/articles/35009043
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/rewired-ferrets-overturn-theories-of-brain-growth.html
https://web.mit.edu/surlab/publications/Newton_Sur04.pdf

I think of it this way -- there could be several mechanisms to achieve the same output (behavior) in a lab setting but that doesn't mean that the brain actually uses any or all of those mechanisms in its natural environment. Heck, even in the natural environment the brain could (and very likely does) exhibit #degeneracy where distinct structural units could give rise to the same function (behavior) under different circumstances.

Also, given the diversity of responses to the OP, adding #neurobuzz @neurobuzz 🙂​

@elduvelle_neuro I agree with @beneuroscience @kofanchen and @alicia_izquierdo here. One very broad way to look at it could be the classic nature (genes, evolution --> #neuroethology) vs nurture (environment, epigenetics --> behavioral #neuroscience)?

To slightly rephrase what others have stated - #neurothology studies the mechanisms that the brain has evolved to function in its natural conditions. If I were to draw a venn diagram for this, there could be/is an intersection between the 2 sets (behavioral neuroscience and neuroethology) but they are 2 different sets. There's #EfficientCoding based on response to natural statistics of the animal's environment that I think lies at the intersection. While there may be a behavioral response to a stimulus in the lab, it doesn't mean that the stimulus even exists in the statistics of the animal's natural environment.

In a lab, you can rewire the auditory cortex of a ferret's brain and they can start "seeing" with their auditory cortex but it doesn't mean that in a "normal" animal's brain that's what happens.

https://www.nature.com/articles/35009043
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/25/science/rewired-ferrets-overturn-theories-of-brain-growth.html
https://web.mit.edu/surlab/publications/Newton_Sur04.pdf

I think of it this way -- there could be several mechanisms to achieve the same output (behavior) in a lab setting but that doesn't mean that the brain actually uses any or all of those mechanisms in its natural environment. Heck, even in the natural environment the brain could (and very likely does) exhibit #degeneracy where distinct structural units could give rise to the same function (behavior) under different circumstances.

Also, given the diversity of responses to the OP, adding #neurobuzz @neurobuzz 🙂​

@dlevenstein
#degeneracy
#redundancy
#NeuralReuse
#overlapping
et al.

@manisha @Neurograce @neuroscience @cogsci @cogneurophys

Interesting links!!!

I understood it properly that your definition of #degeneracy will closely/loosely overlap with:

1. Michael L. Anderson #NeuralReuse definiton

2. @PessoaBrain #overlapping definition

3. Hebb's #NeuronalEnsemble

yea or nay or #degeneracy + #redundancy or else ?