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#WebObjects #Stickers

Some large #WebObjects applications open sourced publicly: PGI #Cocktail, represented at https://www.asso-cocktail.fr/

Sources are at https://sourcesup.renater.fr/, repos prefixed with "cocktail", last commits from around 2015:
https://sourcesup.renater.fr/search/?type_of_search=soft&group_id=0&words=cocktail&Search=Search

It's a pity I don't speak French, so it's a little bit hard to get what it's about as the source code is French as well.

But it seems to be an administration suite for the needs of #universities. From finances to staff to inscription.

#sourceCodeRecycling

Some large #WebObjects applications open sourced publicly: PGI #Cocktail, represented at https://www.asso-cocktail.fr/

Sources are at https://sourcesup.renater.fr/, repos prefixed with "cocktail", last commits from around 2015:
https://sourcesup.renater.fr/search/?type_of_search=soft&group_id=0&words=cocktail&Search=Search

It's a pity I don't speak French, so it's a little bit hard to get what it's about as the source code is French as well.

But it seems to be an administration suite for the needs of #universities. From finances to staff to inscription.

#sourceCodeRecycling

Some large #WebObjects applications open sourced publicly: PGI #Cocktail, represented at https://www.asso-cocktail.fr/

Sources are at https://sourcesup.renater.fr/, repos prefixed with "cocktail", last commits from around 2015:
https://sourcesup.renater.fr/search/?type_of_search=soft&group_id=0&words=cocktail&Search=Search

It's a pity I don't speak French, so it's a little bit hard to get what it's about as the source code is French as well.

But it seems to be an administration suite for the needs of #universities. From finances to staff to inscription.

#sourceCodeRecycling

Some large #WebObjects applications open sourced publicly: PGI #Cocktail, represented at https://www.asso-cocktail.fr/

Sources are at https://sourcesup.renater.fr/, repos prefixed with "cocktail", last commits from around 2015:
https://sourcesup.renater.fr/search/?type_of_search=soft&group_id=0&words=cocktail&Search=Search

It's a pity I don't speak French, so it's a little bit hard to get what it's about as the source code is French as well.

But it seems to be an administration suite for the needs of #universities. From finances to staff to inscription.

#sourceCodeRecycling

Some large #WebObjects applications open sourced publicly: PGI #Cocktail, represented at https://www.asso-cocktail.fr/

Sources are at https://sourcesup.renater.fr/, repos prefixed with "cocktail", last commits from around 2015:
https://sourcesup.renater.fr/search/?type_of_search=soft&group_id=0&words=cocktail&Search=Search

It's a pity I don't speak French, so it's a little bit hard to get what it's about as the source code is French as well.

But it seems to be an administration suite for the needs of #universities. From finances to staff to inscription.

#sourceCodeRecycling

Even #WebObjects #apps look quite ok using that theme. If only tabs would adopt to the GTK stylesheet a little more.

Ok, had a weekend off and relaxed yesterday night doing some retro computing.
Installed #MacOSXServer #Tiger on the old #PowerMac #G5. Luckily I remembered that this machine does boot from a USB pen drive when ones uses the right commands in #OpenFirmware.

Services started: #blojsom and the #WebObjects server.

Caught a bad cold. Woke up all night and found myself dreaming about #WebObjects. Is this a sign from the heavens? And what do they want to tell me?

TFW you open your http port for a moment and suddenly find this in your access log..what year is it even? 💩

access_log:45.156.130.37 - - [19/Aug/2025:21:24:44 +0200] "GET /helpdesk/WebObjects/Helpdesk.woa HTTP/1.1" 404

#webobjects

Yell #WebObjects !

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hcYvWcbj2nU

It looks and works way better than LibreOffice Base (sorry) and it's real client-server architecture. Yes, it isn't #FLOSS, which would be too awesome.
It's still from Apple, you know. (They probably still regret they wrote this in #Java in their early naive childhood days, not doing peek capitalism.)

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It looks and works way better than LibreOffice Base (sorry) and it's real client-server architecture. Yes, it isn't #FLOSS, which would be too awesome.
It's still from Apple, you know. (They probably still regret they wrote this in #Java in their early naive childhood days, not doing peek capitalism.)

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It looks and works way better than LibreOffice Base (sorry) and it's real client-server architecture. Yes, it isn't #FLOSS, which would be too awesome.
It's still from Apple, you know. (They probably still regret they wrote this in #Java in their early naive childhood days, not doing peek capitalism.)

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It looks and works way better than LibreOffice Base (sorry) and it's real client-server architecture. Yes, it isn't #FLOSS, which would be too awesome.
It's still from Apple, you know. (They probably still regret they wrote this in #Java in their early naive childhood days, not doing peek capitalism.)

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It looks and works way better than LibreOffice Base (sorry) and it's real client-server architecture. Yes, it isn't #FLOSS, which would be too awesome.
It's still from Apple, you know. (They probably still regret they wrote this in #Java in their early naive childhood days, not doing peek capitalism.)

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It's just so awesome. You lay out a database schema, import it to EOModeler, fix a few data types, set some rules (GUI! no freaking XML writing, simple syntax if you want to write) and the GUI looks exactly like you want a database app to look like.

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It's just so awesome. You lay out a database schema, import it to EOModeler, fix a few data types, set some rules (GUI! no freaking XML writing, simple syntax if you want to write) and the GUI looks exactly like you want a database app to look like.

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It's just so awesome. You lay out a database schema, import it to EOModeler, fix a few data types, set some rules (GUI! no freaking XML writing, simple syntax if you want to write) and the GUI looks exactly like you want a database app to look like.

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It's just so awesome. You lay out a database schema, import it to EOModeler, fix a few data types, set some rules (GUI! no freaking XML writing, simple syntax if you want to write) and the GUI looks exactly like you want a database app to look like.

#JavaClient #WebObjects

It's just so awesome. You lay out a database schema, import it to EOModeler, fix a few data types, set some rules (GUI! no freaking XML writing, simple syntax if you want to write) and the GUI looks exactly like you want a database app to look like.

#JavaClient #WebObjects

In later times #Apple probably didn't want to accept they really reimplemented the whole (?, at least a lot of) Foundation in pure portable Java (this is not the Cocoa-Java bridge!). But they did. This is the removed doc: "The Foundation Framework". 378 pages.

https://leopard-adc.pepas.com/documentation/LegacyTechnologies/WebObjects/WebObjects_5/FoundationRef/Java/JavaFoundation.pdf

#WebObjects #Java #Foundation

Looks like I got it running without errors from #Eclipse now. Two example frameworks, included into two example apps and clients. Server and client classes and resources both distributed correctly.
Still impressed by its beauty. Both optical as well as conceptual.

#WebObjects #D2JC #Java

Those guys called Apple's #JavaClient their "best kept secret" in 2009. Quite understandable why.

https://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-de[email protected]/msg28020.html

#WebObjects

Those guys called Apple's #JavaClient their "best kept secret" in 2009. Quite understandable why.

https://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-de[email protected]/msg28020.html

#WebObjects

Those guys called Apple's #JavaClient their "best kept secret" in 2009. Quite understandable why.

https://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-de[email protected]/msg28020.html

#WebObjects

Those guys called Apple's #JavaClient their "best kept secret" in 2009. Quite understandable why.

https://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-de[email protected]/msg28020.html

#WebObjects

Those guys called Apple's #JavaClient their "best kept secret" in 2009. Quite understandable why.

https://www.mail-archive.com/webobjects-de[email protected]/msg28020.html

#WebObjects

#Swing #Cocoa: It isn't suprising when you look into it. For #WebObjects #Apple not only reimplemented #Foundation in #Java (com.webobjects.foundation), they also made a #Cocoa abstraction layer that mimics layout and behaviour in #Swing (com.webobjects.eointerface.swing).

That one still works (https://fosstodon.org/@lazarus/114252747377471833), while the bridge to Cocoa has been deprecated with WebObjects 5.4 (and thus is not part of its docs anymore).

Compare https://leopard-adc.pepas.com/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html to https://leopard-adc.pepas.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference/.

Probably doing #Cocoa in #Swift is nice. But it wasn't that bad in #Java either. Somehow this tech was deprecated. This client-server database app runs on any desktop operation system having a regular JVM. Crazy stuff, #Apple did, huh?

#WebObjects #D2JC

I mean, it doesn't look as gorgeous on #elementaryOS, but still, it works.

#Java #WebObjects #D2JC

Ok, it even works using JDK 17 when you add `--add-exports java.base/sun.security.action=ALL-UNNAMED` as JVM option.

#WebObjects #Java #D2JC

It‘s just lovely how they made these #Swing apps look like #Cocoa .

#Java #WebObjects

Think I got it running. It is aged. But aged very well. The client of this almost 30 years old example runs quite nicely, errors only point to SQL/model setup.

#WebObjects #D2JC

Think I‘ll reread that #WebObjects Desktop Application docs. They are just delicious.

Hm, really tired of this #MSAccess, #LibreOfficeBase database application stuff. I need a quick way to create a "main/detail" GUI from a database.

There once was #WebObjects and that really nice #JavaClient stuff.

Is there anything else, existing to this day?

I know of
- #Apache #Cayenne (only ORM, no GUI generation)
- #ManyDesigns #Portofino (very close, but only web GUI. Thanks to @peter for that hint some time ago).

Do you know of anything? @helge

#Boost

Hm, really tired of this #MSAccess, #LibreOfficeBase database application stuff. I need a quick way to create a "main/detail" GUI from a database.

There once was #WebObjects and that really nice #JavaClient stuff.

Is there anything else, existing to this day?

I know of
- #Apache #Cayenne (only ORM, no GUI generation)
- #ManyDesigns #Portofino (very close, but only web GUI. Thanks to @peter for that hint some time ago).

Do you know of anything? @helge

#Boost

Hm, really tired of this #MSAccess, #LibreOfficeBase database application stuff. I need a quick way to create a "main/detail" GUI from a database.

There once was #WebObjects and that really nice #JavaClient stuff.

Is there anything else, existing to this day?

I know of
- #Apache #Cayenne (only ORM, no GUI generation)
- #ManyDesigns #Portofino (very close, but only web GUI. Thanks to @peter for that hint some time ago).

Do you know of anything? @helge

#Boost

Hm, really tired of this #MSAccess, #LibreOfficeBase database application stuff. I need a quick way to create a "main/detail" GUI from a database.

There once was #WebObjects and that really nice #JavaClient stuff.

Is there anything else, existing to this day?

I know of
- #Apache #Cayenne (only ORM, no GUI generation)
- #ManyDesigns #Portofino (very close, but only web GUI. Thanks to @peter for that hint some time ago).

Do you know of anything? @helge

#Boost

Hm, really tired of this #MSAccess, #LibreOfficeBase database application stuff. I need a quick way to create a "main/detail" GUI from a database.

There once was #WebObjects and that really nice #JavaClient stuff.

Is there anything else, existing to this day?

I know of
- #Apache #Cayenne (only ORM, no GUI generation)
- #ManyDesigns #Portofino (very close, but only web GUI. Thanks to @peter for that hint some time ago).

Do you know of anything? @helge

#Boost

Lately I was thinking why #SwiftUI ecosystem does not have many open-source reusable extensions. (The first framework with reusable components I did contribute was MiscKit for AppKit, ca 1991). Still, the best example is #WebObjects

I think the reason is the inability to parametrise. Like configure a reusable view with external data (e.g. JSON, XML). The focus of the most reusable frameworks is on developing controllers that use an external data dynamically configure the reusable components.

@airspeedswift

Actually this talk already “paid” for my flight from Sofia to London! 🎉

We have about 1.500.000 of #WebObjects LOC that is getting rusty, and we slowly are moving to #swift. I only hope we can use (and contribute to) the interop for older (ancient) version of Java. I hope you at  have the same pain, so you know what I am talking about! 😂

I am installing @mattl's favourite framework ever rn

#retrocomputing #apple #macintosh #WebObjects

Great news for all of us, old #WebObjects dinosaurs!

Our team will be very happy to help with this initiative, that was announce at #serversideswift2024 After all, I think we have the largest WebObjects installed base outside Apple.

https://github.com/swiftlang/swift-java

Had a #java dev job interview today. They maintain a lot of legacy code done with #webobjects i.e. project wonder. Should I run?

Being an old Apple/Mac OS X Server fan and having done web development for quite some time, I always think #Apache #Cayenne and its #CayenneModeler are looking really sexy. I've gotta make a project using it at some point. #ORM #Java #databases #WebObjects #EOF #EOModeler