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  1. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  2. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  3. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  4. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  5. A quotation from A. A. Milne

    Tell the innocent visitor from another world that two people were killed at Serajevo, and that the best that Europe could do about it was to kill eleven million more.

    A. A. Milne (1882-1956) English poet and playwright [Alan Alexander Milne]
    Peace with Honour, ch. 16 “Patriotism and Pledges,” sec. 5 (1934)

    More about this quote: wist.info/milne-a-a/82508/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #aamilne #casusbelli #death #proportionality #war #worldwari #ww1

  6. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  7. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  8. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  9. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  10. 2/2
    "Meloni is one of the last #Western #leaders to condemn Monday's strike, which has drawn wide #international #criticism.. "We did not hesitate to defend #Israel, but at the same time we cannot remain silent now in the face of a reaction that has gone far beyond the #principle of #proportionality, #killing #innocent victims and threatening #Christian communities, jeopardising the historic #twostatesolution," #Meloni said."
    #SaveGaza #palestine #genocide #JailNetanyahu #StopIDF #IDFwarCrimes

  11. #GDPR Implementation Dialogue: #CCIAeurope has submitted targeted recommendations to the @EU_Commission. 🎯

    - Reinforce #proportionality
    - Enable #innovation
    - Enhance #governance
    - Modernise rules to strengthen #SingleMarket

    🔗 Full input: ccianet.org/library/ccia-europ

  12. #GDPR Implementation Dialogue: #CCIAeurope has submitted targeted recommendations to the @EU_Commission. 🎯

    - Reinforce #proportionality
    - Enable #innovation
    - Enhance #governance
    - Modernise rules to strengthen #SingleMarket

    🔗 Full input: ccianet.org/library/ccia-europ

  13. Foam projectiles fired into the crowd of #protesters littered the ground outside a downtown detention center where a crowd has been growing since the morning.

    Tensions are escalating in one area of the protest, where a line of #LosAngeles #police officers are separating the crowd. “Love thy neighbor,” one protester yelled.

    #Trump #law #Title10 #PosseComitatusAct #UseOfForce #Proportionality #democracy #RightToProtest #authoritarianism #Gestapo #California #NationalGuard #immigration

  14. AP:

    Members of the #NationalGuard faced off w/ #protesters in #LosAngeles on Sun, & #TearGas was fired at a growing crowd that gathered outside a federal complex hours after the federal troops arrived in the city on #Trump’s orders.

    The confrontation broke out in front of the Metropolitan Detention Center in #LA, as a group of demonstrators SHOUTED INSULTS at the guard lined shoulder to shoulder behind riot shields.

    Tear gas for insults.

    #law #UseOfForce #RulesOfEngagement #Proportionality

  15. The principle of #proportionality is a #legal doctrine that requires any action taken by authorities, especially in the context of surveillance & #LawEnforcement, to be #proportionate to the objective being pursued.

    #Law enforcement officers should use only the amount of force necessary to mitigate an incident, make an arrest, or protect themselves or others from harm.

    #Trump #UseOfForce #RulesOfEngagement #NationalGuard #LosAngeles #protests #protesters #tyranny
    nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/ov

  16. What recommended moral philosophy literature is out there regarding proportionality from an ethical perspective? I am familiar with discussions in just war theory (e.g. McMahan, Lee, Shue); what interesting stuff is there beyond this?

    #philosophy #proportionality #ethics

  17. “Hydrogen is the realistic solution for decarbonizing the housing stock in Germany”

    #Aiwanger #Bavaria #EconomyMinister

    Technical #incompetence is measured in the unit [Aiwanger].

    It's an inverse #proportionality. The more Aiwanger, the lower the #competence.

    The #function tends towards zero.

    By @aellalabrys.bsky.social‬

  18. “Hydrogen is the realistic solution for decarbonizing the housing stock in Germany”

    #Aiwanger #Bavaria #EconomyMinister

    Technical #incompetence is measured in the unit [Aiwanger].

    It's an inverse #proportionality. The more Aiwanger, the lower the #competence.

    The #function tends towards zero.

    By @aellalabrys.bsky.social‬

  19. “Hydrogen is the realistic solution for decarbonizing the housing stock in Germany”

    #Aiwanger #Bavaria #EconomyMinister

    Technical #incompetence is measured in the unit [Aiwanger].

    It's an inverse #proportionality. The more Aiwanger, the lower the #competence.

    The #function tends towards zero.

    By @aellalabrys.bsky.social‬

  20. #proportionality #proportionalitat #gaza

    Omer Bartov, a former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces and historian of genocide, wrote that by May 2024 “it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions”.

    Palestinians displaced in Gaza: 1.9 million (90% of the population)

    theguardian.com/world/2025/jan

  21. DW has quite a picture for this story. German mainstream discourse has certainly moved in 16 months. #proportionality #proportionalitat #gaza

  22. #PeterSinger
    "climate protesters blocking 1000's of people fr driving their kids to school or going to work is more ethically worrisome than disrupting e routine of those w power to reduce #greenhousegas emissions.. #politicians & #bureaucrats in their official capacity .. #Unethical #activism, even when nonviolent, can easily spur counter-protests tt spiral to violence. The principle of #proportionality can serve as a useful guide to factors tt protesters shld consider"
    bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinio

  23. What is clear is that as Israel decimates Gaza and kills tens of thousands of people, it is also attempting to recreate the norms of war-making and significantly transform interpretations of the laws of armed conflict.

    If Netanyahu and his government succeed in rendering Israel’s version of #proportionality acceptable among other state actors, then the laws of armed conflict will end up justifying rather than preventing #genocidal violence.

    aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/7/

    @palestine
    #Israel
    #war

  24. “If you do something for long enough, the world will accept it. The whole of international law is now based on the notion that an act that is forbidden today becomes permissible if executed by enough countries.”

    Colonel Daniel Reisner

    In other words, the way we calculate #proportionality is not determined by some a priori moral edict but rather the norms and customs created by militaries as they adopt new and most often more lethal forms of war-making.

    aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/7/

    @palestine

  25. CW: data protection nerd thing about DSAR processes

    Hey #DataProtection friends.. can you spot the mistake in the HSE’s guidance on the SAR process?

    #Necessity #Proportionality

  26. "The Principle of #Proportionality, codified in Protocol I Additional to the #Geneva Conventions, defines as disproportionate any attack in which the incidental damage to civilians is excessive in relation to the military advantage anticipated from the attack. However, it is close to impossible to pinpoint exactly what is meant by “excessive”. This writer posits that this vagueness is not a coincidence, but rather a tool, serving the purposes of attacking states."

    papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf

    #IHL