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  1. @forteller @CelloMomOnCars

    isnt going to be deciding in your survival or death.

    The way the impact happens and where those acceleration forces are transferred meanwhile almost certainly matters a lot. The entire reason of Airbags saving so many life is quite simple their ability to cushion the impact, reducing peak G-Forces and transmitting them also over a much larger area of your body.

    - Modern active safety systems (that add weight) as well as better (but heavier) tires and brakes also help to avoid or at least mitigate the severity of accidents.

    Nuff said... the 3 ton SUV coming to a screeching stop 30 cm before you is much better for your health than the 500 kg #PersonalLightVehicle slamming into you at 25 kmh.

    Small vehicles may be space efficient, but the limitation of length also means that any rammed pedestrian is much more likely to hit the hard and unyielding parts of the passenger safety cell. Very small cars may have almost no hood, but as a result, their impact on a pedestrian is 👇

  2. @forteller @CelloMomOnCars

    isnt going to be deciding in your survival or death.

    The way the impact happens and where those acceleration forces are transferred meanwhile almost certainly matters a lot. The entire reason of Airbags saving so many life is quite simple their ability to cushion the impact, reducing peak G-Forces and transmitting them also over a much larger area of your body.

    - Modern active safety systems (that add weight) as well as better (but heavier) tires and brakes also help to avoid or at least mitigate the severity of accidents.

    Nuff said... the 3 ton SUV coming to a screeching stop 30 cm before you is much better for your health than the 500 kg #PersonalLightVehicle slamming into you at 25 kmh.

    Small vehicles may be space efficient, but the limitation of length also means that any rammed pedestrian is much more likely to hit the hard and unyielding parts of the passenger safety cell. Very small cars may have almost no hood, but as a result, their impact on a pedestrian is 👇

  3. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    I was not aware, that the US basically ban smaller than car vehicles like #PersonalLightVehicle . That of course is not good.

    In Europe, we have multiple vehicles classes that allow such vehicles to be on the "road". But I have to dissappoint you... they sell quite poorly which isnt very surprising, because they are almost as expensive as a small regular car, have very little in comfort and safety and at least when combustion engine powered, dont even consume particular less fuel.

    Some Quad Bikes saw some popularity a decade ago or so, but they were primary used a joy ride, not really as an car alternative.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, the moment you want 4 wheels - and you really want to from a driving dynamics and safety standpoint - things quickly get expensive and since you probably also want some weather protection (or why not use a bike?), price further increases.

    Personally I am really interested in this:👇

  4. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    I was not aware, that the US basically ban smaller than car vehicles like #PersonalLightVehicle . That of course is not good.

    In Europe, we have multiple vehicles classes that allow such vehicles to be on the "road". But I have to dissappoint you... they sell quite poorly which isnt very surprising, because they are almost as expensive as a small regular car, have very little in comfort and safety and at least when combustion engine powered, dont even consume particular less fuel.

    Some Quad Bikes saw some popularity a decade ago or so, but they were primary used a joy ride, not really as an car alternative.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, the moment you want 4 wheels - and you really want to from a driving dynamics and safety standpoint - things quickly get expensive and since you probably also want some weather protection (or why not use a bike?), price further increases.

    Personally I am really interested in this:👇

  5. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    I was not aware, that the US basically ban smaller than car vehicles like #PersonalLightVehicle . That of course is not good.

    In Europe, we have multiple vehicles classes that allow such vehicles to be on the "road". But I have to dissappoint you... they sell quite poorly which isnt very surprising, because they are almost as expensive as a small regular car, have very little in comfort and safety and at least when combustion engine powered, dont even consume particular less fuel.

    Some Quad Bikes saw some popularity a decade ago or so, but they were primary used a joy ride, not really as an car alternative.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, the moment you want 4 wheels - and you really want to from a driving dynamics and safety standpoint - things quickly get expensive and since you probably also want some weather protection (or why not use a bike?), price further increases.

    Personally I am really interested in this:👇

  6. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    I was not aware, that the US basically ban smaller than car vehicles like #PersonalLightVehicle . That of course is not good.

    In Europe, we have multiple vehicles classes that allow such vehicles to be on the "road". But I have to dissappoint you... they sell quite poorly which isnt very surprising, because they are almost as expensive as a small regular car, have very little in comfort and safety and at least when combustion engine powered, dont even consume particular less fuel.

    Some Quad Bikes saw some popularity a decade ago or so, but they were primary used a joy ride, not really as an car alternative.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, the moment you want 4 wheels - and you really want to from a driving dynamics and safety standpoint - things quickly get expensive and since you probably also want some weather protection (or why not use a bike?), price further increases.

    Personally I am really interested in this:👇

  7. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    I was not aware, that the US basically ban smaller than car vehicles like #PersonalLightVehicle . That of course is not good.

    In Europe, we have multiple vehicles classes that allow such vehicles to be on the "road". But I have to dissappoint you... they sell quite poorly which isnt very surprising, because they are almost as expensive as a small regular car, have very little in comfort and safety and at least when combustion engine powered, dont even consume particular less fuel.

    Some Quad Bikes saw some popularity a decade ago or so, but they were primary used a joy ride, not really as an car alternative.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, the moment you want 4 wheels - and you really want to from a driving dynamics and safety standpoint - things quickly get expensive and since you probably also want some weather protection (or why not use a bike?), price further increases.

    Personally I am really interested in this:👇

  8. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    That is correct, but I guess having a reasonable survival change in the event of a side impact is worth it. Even it it makes the vehicle wider in beam.

    While to fat (beam) vehicles are a problem, the advantage for the environment and other road users quickly decreases as beam decreases.

    The difference between a 170 cm wide vehicle and a 185 cm one is less valuable to other road users than the difference between a 200 cm and an 185 cm wide vehicle is what I mean to say.

    As such I consider it a unnecessary design flaw, that so many #PersonalLightVehicle are so thin in beam. If you have almost zero crash protection in the first place, at least give me some side room so that my left or right arm isnt instantly pressed into service as a human crumble zone.

    Due to our roads for decades having been made with cars in mind, having cars that fit next to each other on a single lane is a rather minor advantage as traffic rules (and safety) dont work well.

  9. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    That is correct, but I guess having a reasonable survival change in the event of a side impact is worth it. Even it it makes the vehicle wider in beam.

    While to fat (beam) vehicles are a problem, the advantage for the environment and other road users quickly decreases as beam decreases.

    The difference between a 170 cm wide vehicle and a 185 cm one is less valuable to other road users than the difference between a 200 cm and an 185 cm wide vehicle is what I mean to say.

    As such I consider it a unnecessary design flaw, that so many #PersonalLightVehicle are so thin in beam. If you have almost zero crash protection in the first place, at least give me some side room so that my left or right arm isnt instantly pressed into service as a human crumble zone.

    Due to our roads for decades having been made with cars in mind, having cars that fit next to each other on a single lane is a rather minor advantage as traffic rules (and safety) dont work well.

  10. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    That is correct, but I guess having a reasonable survival change in the event of a side impact is worth it. Even it it makes the vehicle wider in beam.

    While to fat (beam) vehicles are a problem, the advantage for the environment and other road users quickly decreases as beam decreases.

    The difference between a 170 cm wide vehicle and a 185 cm one is less valuable to other road users than the difference between a 200 cm and an 185 cm wide vehicle is what I mean to say.

    As such I consider it a unnecessary design flaw, that so many #PersonalLightVehicle are so thin in beam. If you have almost zero crash protection in the first place, at least give me some side room so that my left or right arm isnt instantly pressed into service as a human crumble zone.

    Due to our roads for decades having been made with cars in mind, having cars that fit next to each other on a single lane is a rather minor advantage as traffic rules (and safety) dont work well.

  11. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    That is correct, but I guess having a reasonable survival change in the event of a side impact is worth it. Even it it makes the vehicle wider in beam.

    While to fat (beam) vehicles are a problem, the advantage for the environment and other road users quickly decreases as beam decreases.

    The difference between a 170 cm wide vehicle and a 185 cm one is less valuable to other road users than the difference between a 200 cm and an 185 cm wide vehicle is what I mean to say.

    As such I consider it a unnecessary design flaw, that so many #PersonalLightVehicle are so thin in beam. If you have almost zero crash protection in the first place, at least give me some side room so that my left or right arm isnt instantly pressed into service as a human crumble zone.

    Due to our roads for decades having been made with cars in mind, having cars that fit next to each other on a single lane is a rather minor advantage as traffic rules (and safety) dont work well.

  12. @kilpatds @CelloMomOnCars @mekkaokereke @blikkie @tess

    That is correct, but I guess having a reasonable survival change in the event of a side impact is worth it. Even it it makes the vehicle wider in beam.

    While to fat (beam) vehicles are a problem, the advantage for the environment and other road users quickly decreases as beam decreases.

    The difference between a 170 cm wide vehicle and a 185 cm one is less valuable to other road users than the difference between a 200 cm and an 185 cm wide vehicle is what I mean to say.

    As such I consider it a unnecessary design flaw, that so many #PersonalLightVehicle are so thin in beam. If you have almost zero crash protection in the first place, at least give me some side room so that my left or right arm isnt instantly pressed into service as a human crumble zone.

    Due to our roads for decades having been made with cars in mind, having cars that fit next to each other on a single lane is a rather minor advantage as traffic rules (and safety) dont work well.

  13. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I dont think it is the right way into the future even for those area where #PublicTransport is of poor quality/doesnt exist at all.

    Imho it is just physics that make this otherwise great idea not so great.

    For a reasonable driving risk, those very small and light vehicles need to stay quite slow. But if they are that slow, you might as well use an enclosed (weather protected) E-Bike with maybe #PersonalLightVehicle only being suitable for old people because you dont need to pedal in those.

    While fast and even very fast Personal Light Vehicles are possible, the reality is, that they are very likely almost as dangerous as riding a motorcycle which has one of the highest risk of injury and death of any motorized vehicle.

    Physics are not kind to small, light and fast things with vulnerable humans inside.

  14. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I dont think it is the right way into the future even for those area where #PublicTransport is of poor quality/doesnt exist at all.

    Imho it is just physics that make this otherwise great idea not so great.

    For a reasonable driving risk, those very small and light vehicles need to stay quite slow. But if they are that slow, you might as well use an enclosed (weather protected) E-Bike with maybe #PersonalLightVehicle only being suitable for old people because you dont need to pedal in those.

    While fast and even very fast Personal Light Vehicles are possible, the reality is, that they are very likely almost as dangerous as riding a motorcycle which has one of the highest risk of injury and death of any motorized vehicle.

    Physics are not kind to small, light and fast things with vulnerable humans inside.

  15. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    save the most amount of money, as neither tax nor insurance is required. It also has low operating and maintainance costs, because its power output and speed is low.

    Yet, in inner cities, an e-bike is just as fast as an full size car (and a #PersonalLightVehicle ), but much cheaper, yet has comparable levels of independence (which is really important if you want to convert people from cars).

    Because E-Bikes mostly top out at 25 kmh, they also pose far less of a threat to other people.

    On a final note: No matter if enclosed e-bike or Personal Light Vehicle... please use 4 wheels..... 3 wheels are a very bad idea so if you decide that 2 is not enough, please go straight to 4 wheels.

    4 Wheels offer the best stability in all driving condititions, making bikes more suitable for harsh weather and ice and snow. They also usually increase crash protection as some form of axle is required which then automatically serves as a certain buffer in the event of a crash.

  16. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    save the most amount of money, as neither tax nor insurance is required. It also has low operating and maintainance costs, because its power output and speed is low.

    Yet, in inner cities, an e-bike is just as fast as an full size car (and a #PersonalLightVehicle ), but much cheaper, yet has comparable levels of independence (which is really important if you want to convert people from cars).

    Because E-Bikes mostly top out at 25 kmh, they also pose far less of a threat to other people.

    On a final note: No matter if enclosed e-bike or Personal Light Vehicle... please use 4 wheels..... 3 wheels are a very bad idea so if you decide that 2 is not enough, please go straight to 4 wheels.

    4 Wheels offer the best stability in all driving condititions, making bikes more suitable for harsh weather and ice and snow. They also usually increase crash protection as some form of axle is required which then automatically serves as a certain buffer in the event of a crash.

  17. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    save the most amount of money, as neither tax nor insurance is required. It also has low operating and maintainance costs, because its power output and speed is low.

    Yet, in inner cities, an e-bike is just as fast as an full size car (and a #PersonalLightVehicle ), but much cheaper, yet has comparable levels of independence (which is really important if you want to convert people from cars).

    Because E-Bikes mostly top out at 25 kmh, they also pose far less of a threat to other people.

    On a final note: No matter if enclosed e-bike or Personal Light Vehicle... please use 4 wheels..... 3 wheels are a very bad idea so if you decide that 2 is not enough, please go straight to 4 wheels.

    4 Wheels offer the best stability in all driving condititions, making bikes more suitable for harsh weather and ice and snow. They also usually increase crash protection as some form of axle is required which then automatically serves as a certain buffer in the event of a crash.

  18. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    save the most amount of money, as neither tax nor insurance is required. It also has low operating and maintainance costs, because its power output and speed is low.

    Yet, in inner cities, an e-bike is just as fast as an full size car (and a #PersonalLightVehicle ), but much cheaper, yet has comparable levels of independence (which is really important if you want to convert people from cars).

    Because E-Bikes mostly top out at 25 kmh, they also pose far less of a threat to other people.

    On a final note: No matter if enclosed e-bike or Personal Light Vehicle... please use 4 wheels..... 3 wheels are a very bad idea so if you decide that 2 is not enough, please go straight to 4 wheels.

    4 Wheels offer the best stability in all driving condititions, making bikes more suitable for harsh weather and ice and snow. They also usually increase crash protection as some form of axle is required which then automatically serves as a certain buffer in the event of a crash.

  19. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    save the most amount of money, as neither tax nor insurance is required. It also has low operating and maintainance costs, because its power output and speed is low.

    Yet, in inner cities, an e-bike is just as fast as an full size car (and a #PersonalLightVehicle ), but much cheaper, yet has comparable levels of independence (which is really important if you want to convert people from cars).

    Because E-Bikes mostly top out at 25 kmh, they also pose far less of a threat to other people.

    On a final note: No matter if enclosed e-bike or Personal Light Vehicle... please use 4 wheels..... 3 wheels are a very bad idea so if you decide that 2 is not enough, please go straight to 4 wheels.

    4 Wheels offer the best stability in all driving condititions, making bikes more suitable for harsh weather and ice and snow. They also usually increase crash protection as some form of axle is required which then automatically serves as a certain buffer in the event of a crash.

  20. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    The problem with #PersonalLightVehicle is, that if you want it to achieve speeds above 30 kmh - which you want, because otherwise, why not take something like the Podbike (legally a bike in Europe) instead?

    podbike.com/

    But such higher speeds quickly make any crash a very lethal affair, because your PLV simple has no crumble zone to lessen the G-Forces and often not even a durable passengers cell, leading to fatal penetration in even "mild" crashes at higher inner cities speeds.

    If you want to go above 30 kmh - you need some crash protection. Above 50 kmh, you need pretty much all the bells and whistles, as forces increase rapidly.

    So personally I think, that if one wants to look into Light Vehicles, that they should be e-bike based:

    - Cycle ways make the poor crash safety far less of a concern. The less likely it is, that I get rammed by a 2 ton SUV, there more lenient i can be in this regard

    - Because it is a mostly pedal powered 🚲, you also 👇

  21. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    The problem with #PersonalLightVehicle is, that if you want it to achieve speeds above 30 kmh - which you want, because otherwise, why not take something like the Podbike (legally a bike in Europe) instead?

    podbike.com/

    But such higher speeds quickly make any crash a very lethal affair, because your PLV simple has no crumble zone to lessen the G-Forces and often not even a durable passengers cell, leading to fatal penetration in even "mild" crashes at higher inner cities speeds.

    If you want to go above 30 kmh - you need some crash protection. Above 50 kmh, you need pretty much all the bells and whistles, as forces increase rapidly.

    So personally I think, that if one wants to look into Light Vehicles, that they should be e-bike based:

    - Cycle ways make the poor crash safety far less of a concern. The less likely it is, that I get rammed by a 2 ton SUV, there more lenient i can be in this regard

    - Because it is a mostly pedal powered 🚲, you also 👇

  22. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    The problem with #PersonalLightVehicle is, that if you want it to achieve speeds above 30 kmh - which you want, because otherwise, why not take something like the Podbike (legally a bike in Europe) instead?

    podbike.com/

    But such higher speeds quickly make any crash a very lethal affair, because your PLV simple has no crumble zone to lessen the G-Forces and often not even a durable passengers cell, leading to fatal penetration in even "mild" crashes at higher inner cities speeds.

    If you want to go above 30 kmh - you need some crash protection. Above 50 kmh, you need pretty much all the bells and whistles, as forces increase rapidly.

    So personally I think, that if one wants to look into Light Vehicles, that they should be e-bike based:

    - Cycle ways make the poor crash safety far less of a concern. The less likely it is, that I get rammed by a 2 ton SUV, there more lenient i can be in this regard

    - Because it is a mostly pedal powered 🚲, you also 👇

  23. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    The problem with #PersonalLightVehicle is, that if you want it to achieve speeds above 30 kmh - which you want, because otherwise, why not take something like the Podbike (legally a bike in Europe) instead?

    podbike.com/

    But such higher speeds quickly make any crash a very lethal affair, because your PLV simple has no crumble zone to lessen the G-Forces and often not even a durable passengers cell, leading to fatal penetration in even "mild" crashes at higher inner cities speeds.

    If you want to go above 30 kmh - you need some crash protection. Above 50 kmh, you need pretty much all the bells and whistles, as forces increase rapidly.

    So personally I think, that if one wants to look into Light Vehicles, that they should be e-bike based:

    - Cycle ways make the poor crash safety far less of a concern. The less likely it is, that I get rammed by a 2 ton SUV, there more lenient i can be in this regard

    - Because it is a mostly pedal powered 🚲, you also 👇

  24. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    The problem with #PersonalLightVehicle is, that if you want it to achieve speeds above 30 kmh - which you want, because otherwise, why not take something like the Podbike (legally a bike in Europe) instead?

    podbike.com/

    But such higher speeds quickly make any crash a very lethal affair, because your PLV simple has no crumble zone to lessen the G-Forces and often not even a durable passengers cell, leading to fatal penetration in even "mild" crashes at higher inner cities speeds.

    If you want to go above 30 kmh - you need some crash protection. Above 50 kmh, you need pretty much all the bells and whistles, as forces increase rapidly.

    So personally I think, that if one wants to look into Light Vehicles, that they should be e-bike based:

    - Cycle ways make the poor crash safety far less of a concern. The less likely it is, that I get rammed by a 2 ton SUV, there more lenient i can be in this regard

    - Because it is a mostly pedal powered 🚲, you also 👇

  25. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I certainly share your desire for sleeker and more elegant cars again, instead of the ugly boxes that for reasons beyond my understanding of taste, are so popular.

    Just take a look at this classy Ford Mondeo.... a long hood but it is very low to the ground, granting the driver great view on the road and making the blind spot in front of the vehicle very small.

    Now, that is a car. Build for elegance, build for speed. Not some obese box with a battering ram attached. And it speaks volumes, that besides its dated engine, it still consumes only arround 1L more fuel than my 2009 Ford Focus.... Just imagine... building things aerodynamically reduces fuel consumption. 🤯

    Ohh, and unlike #PersonalLightVehicle or very small cars, this can be just as safe for the people inside than any SUV - without hurting the safety of other road users, cyclists and pedestrians remotly as much.

    In fact, it will be safer, because hugging the ground actually grants vastly superior handling

  26. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I certainly share your desire for sleeker and more elegant cars again, instead of the ugly boxes that for reasons beyond my understanding of taste, are so popular.

    Just take a look at this classy Ford Mondeo.... a long hood but it is very low to the ground, granting the driver great view on the road and making the blind spot in front of the vehicle very small.

    Now, that is a car. Build for elegance, build for speed. Not some obese box with a battering ram attached. And it speaks volumes, that besides its dated engine, it still consumes only arround 1L more fuel than my 2009 Ford Focus.... Just imagine... building things aerodynamically reduces fuel consumption. 🤯

    Ohh, and unlike #PersonalLightVehicle or very small cars, this can be just as safe for the people inside than any SUV - without hurting the safety of other road users, cyclists and pedestrians remotly as much.

    In fact, it will be safer, because hugging the ground actually grants vastly superior handling

  27. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I certainly share your desire for sleeker and more elegant cars again, instead of the ugly boxes that for reasons beyond my understanding of taste, are so popular.

    Just take a look at this classy Ford Mondeo.... a long hood but it is very low to the ground, granting the driver great view on the road and making the blind spot in front of the vehicle very small.

    Now, that is a car. Build for elegance, build for speed. Not some obese box with a battering ram attached. And it speaks volumes, that besides its dated engine, it still consumes only arround 1L more fuel than my 2009 Ford Focus.... Just imagine... building things aerodynamically reduces fuel consumption. 🤯

    Ohh, and unlike #PersonalLightVehicle or very small cars, this can be just as safe for the people inside than any SUV - without hurting the safety of other road users, cyclists and pedestrians remotly as much.

    In fact, it will be safer, because hugging the ground actually grants vastly superior handling

  28. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I certainly share your desire for sleeker and more elegant cars again, instead of the ugly boxes that for reasons beyond my understanding of taste, are so popular.

    Just take a look at this classy Ford Mondeo.... a long hood but it is very low to the ground, granting the driver great view on the road and making the blind spot in front of the vehicle very small.

    Now, that is a car. Build for elegance, build for speed. Not some obese box with a battering ram attached. And it speaks volumes, that besides its dated engine, it still consumes only arround 1L more fuel than my 2009 Ford Focus.... Just imagine... building things aerodynamically reduces fuel consumption. 🤯

    Ohh, and unlike #PersonalLightVehicle or very small cars, this can be just as safe for the people inside than any SUV - without hurting the safety of other road users, cyclists and pedestrians remotly as much.

    In fact, it will be safer, because hugging the ground actually grants vastly superior handling

  29. @kkarhan @tikibunnyimports @growdene

    I certainly share your desire for sleeker and more elegant cars again, instead of the ugly boxes that for reasons beyond my understanding of taste, are so popular.

    Just take a look at this classy Ford Mondeo.... a long hood but it is very low to the ground, granting the driver great view on the road and making the blind spot in front of the vehicle very small.

    Now, that is a car. Build for elegance, build for speed. Not some obese box with a battering ram attached. And it speaks volumes, that besides its dated engine, it still consumes only arround 1L more fuel than my 2009 Ford Focus.... Just imagine... building things aerodynamically reduces fuel consumption. 🤯

    Ohh, and unlike #PersonalLightVehicle or very small cars, this can be just as safe for the people inside than any SUV - without hurting the safety of other road users, cyclists and pedestrians remotly as much.

    In fact, it will be safer, because hugging the ground actually grants vastly superior handling

  30. @kkarhan @growdene @tikibunnyimports

    You realize that a lot of this "bloat" makes the difference between needing a doctor, needing a hospital or just the grave digger?

    Physics are not kind to fast small vehicles and neither are they towards humans inside.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Safe

    Choose two.

    Motorcycles which can be considered a type of #PersonalLightVehicle have one of the highest fatality rates of all motorized transport. Going fast without safety very quickly leads to death in accidents that you would have survived in any car built the last 2 decades.

  31. @kkarhan @growdene @tikibunnyimports

    You realize that a lot of this "bloat" makes the difference between needing a doctor, needing a hospital or just the grave digger?

    Physics are not kind to fast small vehicles and neither are they towards humans inside.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Safe

    Choose two.

    Motorcycles which can be considered a type of #PersonalLightVehicle have one of the highest fatality rates of all motorized transport. Going fast without safety very quickly leads to death in accidents that you would have survived in any car built the last 2 decades.

  32. @kkarhan @growdene @tikibunnyimports

    You realize that a lot of this "bloat" makes the difference between needing a doctor, needing a hospital or just the grave digger?

    Physics are not kind to fast small vehicles and neither are they towards humans inside.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Safe

    Choose two.

    Motorcycles which can be considered a type of #PersonalLightVehicle have one of the highest fatality rates of all motorized transport. Going fast without safety very quickly leads to death in accidents that you would have survived in any car built the last 2 decades.

  33. @kkarhan @growdene @tikibunnyimports

    You realize that a lot of this "bloat" makes the difference between needing a doctor, needing a hospital or just the grave digger?

    Physics are not kind to fast small vehicles and neither are they towards humans inside.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Safe

    Choose two.

    Motorcycles which can be considered a type of #PersonalLightVehicle have one of the highest fatality rates of all motorized transport. Going fast without safety very quickly leads to death in accidents that you would have survived in any car built the last 2 decades.

  34. @kkarhan @growdene @tikibunnyimports

    You realize that a lot of this "bloat" makes the difference between needing a doctor, needing a hospital or just the grave digger?

    Physics are not kind to fast small vehicles and neither are they towards humans inside.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Safe

    Choose two.

    Motorcycles which can be considered a type of #PersonalLightVehicle have one of the highest fatality rates of all motorized transport. Going fast without safety very quickly leads to death in accidents that you would have survived in any car built the last 2 decades.

  35. @DavittoKun That's why I want to do a #toybox + #musl / #Linux distro.

    Why reinvent the cabin scooter when @landley, @torvalds and contributors already offer you basically the whole range of parts to build the OS equivalent of a "#PersonalLightVehicle"...

    Espechally since I got neither the skills nor time to reinvent wheels that ain't square or drive faster than 20km/h... ^^
    youtube.com/watch?v=hKyNqc1p2i (not me btw!)

  36. @DavittoKun That's why I want to do a #toyox + #musl / #Linux distro.

    Why reinvent the cabin scooter when @landley, @torvalds and contributors already offer you basically the whole range of parts to build the OS equivalent of a "#PersonalLightVehicle"...

    Espechally since I got neither the skills nor time to reinvent wheels that ain't square or drive faster than 20km/h... ^^
    youtube.com/watch?v=hKyNqc1p2i (not be btw!)

  37. @DavittoKun That's why I want to do a #toyox + #musl / #Linux distro.

    Why reinvent the cabin scooter when @landley, @torvalds and contributors already offer you basically the whole range of parts to build the OS equivalent of a "#PersonalLightVehicle"...

    Espechally since I got neither the skills nor time to reinvent wheels that ain't square or drive faster than 20km/h... ^^
    youtube.com/watch?v=hKyNqc1p2i (not be btw!)

  38. @tikibunnyimports Personally I've to admit are one of the inspirations for the I have...

    After all, I don't want a and if I can't avoid having to own and drive a "" then choosing the smallest and most cost-effective that can fit the requirements is the most rational choice...
    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

  39. @tikibunnyimports Personally I've to admit #KeiCars are one of the inspirations for the #PersonalLightVehicle #concept I have...

    After all, I don't want a #SuperUselessVehicles and if I can't avoid having to own and drive a "#car" then choosing the smallest and most cost-effective that can fit the requirements is the most rational choice...
    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

  40. @tikibunnyimports Personally I've to admit #KeiCars are one of the inspirations for the #PersonalLightVehicle #concept I have...

    After all, I don't want a #SuperUselessVehicles and if I can't avoid having to own and drive a "#car" then choosing the smallest and most cost-effective that can fit the requirements is the most rational choice...
    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

  41. @paultk @notjustbikes

    Not to mention can replace emergency systems relying of generators or other combustion engines, allowing for scalable applications from a to giant freighters at sea, which are one of the worst air pollutants in the workd due to basically using more or less unfiltered crude oil aka.
    youtube.com/watch?v=aVAWYBLymY

  42. @paultk @notjustbikes

    Not to mention #Methanol #FuelCells can replace #ColdStandby emergency systems relying of #Diesel generators or other combustion engines, allowing for scalable applications from a #PersonalLightVehicle to giant freighters at sea, which are one of the worst air pollutants in the workd due to basically using more or less unfiltered crude oil aka. #HeavyFuelOil
    youtube.com/watch?v=aVAWYBLymY

  43. @paultk @notjustbikes

    Not to mention #Methanol #FuelCells can replace #ColdStandby emergency systems relying of #Diesel generators or other combustion engines, allowing for scalable applications from a #PersonalLightVehicle to giant freighters at sea, which are one of the worst air pollutants in the workd due to basically using more or less unfiltered crude oil aka. #HeavyFuelOil
    youtube.com/watch?v=aVAWYBLymY

  44. @threetails there's a reason why I'd not even bother to build something that would be "legally classified as car" (as per EC Vehicle Class M1) because there is so much expensive bloat mandated per law that just makes it impossible to build a that could be sold with taxes and fees for <€10k.

    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

  45. @threetails there's a reason why I'd not even bother to build something that would be "legally classified as car" (as per EC Vehicle Class M1) because there is so much expensive bloat mandated per law that just makes it impossible to build a #car that could be sold with taxes and fees for <€10k.

    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

    #PLV #PersonalLightVehicle

  46. @threetails there's a reason why I'd not even bother to build something that would be "legally classified as car" (as per EC Vehicle Class M1) because there is so much expensive bloat mandated per law that just makes it impossible to build a #car that could be sold with taxes and fees for <€10k.

    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

    #PLV #PersonalLightVehicle

  47. @SheDrivesMobility Das sowieso:

    Und wenn nicht geht dann sollte es wenigstens sein statt .
    github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV#

    PS: Gute Clients for :mastodon: / :activitypub: blenden das # aus und färben diese auf Wunsch genauso wie den Rest des Textes...