#longposts — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #longposts, aggregated by home.social.
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@Gazeshift You won't be able to get that on mastodon.social.
Either you try to find a Mastodon instance that has a raised character limit. However, there's no list of Mastodon instances with character limits.
Or you move to something that's part of the Fediverse, fully federated with Mastodon, but not Mastodon proper, such as:- Pleroma (5,000 characters by default)
- Akkoma (5,000 characters by default)
- Misskey (3,000 characters hard-coded, feels very Japanese)
- forks of Misskey like Sharkey or Iceshrimp (thousands of characters by default)
- Friendica (unlimited characters, handles nothing like Mastodon)
- Hubzilla (unlimited characters, handles absolutely nothing like Mastodon, doesn't work with Mastodon apps; this is where I am)
- the Streams repository (unlimited characters, handles absolutely nothing like Mastodon, doesn't work with Mastodon apps, public instances are few and hard to find)
They're all guaranteed to always give you many many more characters than vanilla Mastodon plus stuff like quotes, quote-posts and text formatting on top. But you'll have to get used to a wholly different UI and UX.
#Long #LongPost #LongPosts #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #FediverseIsNotMastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Sharkey #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #500Characters -
CW: Draft preamble for posts that go out to Mastodon; CW: long (over 2,850 characters), fedisplaining, Fediverse meta, Mastodon vs non-Mastodon meta, mentioning features that Mastodon doesn't have and not refusing to use them
I'm tempted to add the following preamble to all my posts and comments. This would answer a lot of questions right away and maybe leave nothing unclear.Preamble
IMPORTANT: I am not on Mastodon. I am on Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is a wholly different project in the Fediverse. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And Hubzilla is not a fork of Mastodon either.
Mastodon was not even here first. The first was StatusNet from 2008 which later became GNU social. Then came Friendica in 2010. And Hubzilla is from 2015 and based on a project from 2012. Mastodon was launched in 2016. It was immediately federated with all three because it spoke a language that these three spoke, too. Except for GNU social, all are still federated with one another to this day. And this is normal, legal and fully intentional.
We aren't the intruders. Technically speaking, Mastodon is the intruder.
Hubzilla has features that Mastodon doesn't have. Hubzilla has an unlimited character count where Mastodon has a limit of 500 characters. Hubzilla can create various ways of text formatting such as bold type, italics, code blocks, lists or headlines; Mastodon can display them now, but it can't create them. Hubzilla can embed hyperlinks; Mastodon toots only support URLs in plain sight. Hubzilla can do both quotes and "quote-tweets", and it doesn't have to resort to screenshots for either. And Hubzilla always mentions users by their full name, not by their short name like Mastodon.
When Mastodon was launched with its self-imposed restrictions, Hubzilla had had all these features for almost four years already. Friendica had had the same features for almost six years already. And many of these features, including longer posts and text formatting, have been available on all other Fediverse projects since they were created.
Thus, I will use features that are not available on Mastodon even though Mastodon users could read this. I will not refrain from writing over 500 characters in one post, and I will not refrain from using text formatting just because Mastodon users aren't used to that.
We were here first. And we won't limit ourselves just because you're limited by the software you're using. We will continue to make use of features that you don't have. Deal with it.
Unfortunately, the target audience of this, Mastodon users, won't read it because it's too long. Not to mention that it'd require a boatload of content warnings and filter-triggering hashtags; see below.
#Fediverse #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #NotOnlyMastodon #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #500Characters #TextFormatting #Quotes #QuoteTweets #QuoteToots #Long #LongPost #LongPosts #CWLong #CWLongPost #Meta #CWMeta #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #Fedisplaining #CWFedisplaining -
@Mark Kraft Obviously, staying on #MastodonSocial won't let you write #LongPosts. Not unless the devs raise the default character count.
One option would be to ask around which #Mastodon instances allow for more than #500Characters and then move there.
An even better option would be to ditch Mastodon altogether and move elsewhere in the #Fediverse. Then you won't have to ask around for instances with a high character count, and you can stay connected with the same people. Remember that #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse.
#Firefish, for example, offers 3,000 characters by default. Some instances offer even more. And it offers #TextFormatting through #Markdown including formatting that Mastodon still can't display.
There are Fediverse projects with even higher character counts. But another advantage of Firefish is that it can import Mastodon accounts AFAIK which makes moving easier. -
CW: CW for text formatting mandatory soon? CW: CW meta, text formatting (bold type, italics, code block, bullet-point list), post length meta
I'm halfway expecting #Mastodon users to demand a #ContentWarning for #TextFormatting.
Like, everyone outside of Mastodon must issue a #CW if they use- bold type
- italics
- a
code block - a bullet-point list
- bold type
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It's sometimes recommended to issue a #ContentWarning on #LongPosts ("CW: long").
But where do long posts start? When does "CW: long" become necessary?
#ContentWarnings #CW #CWs #LongToots #280Characters #500Characters -
CW: CW: long (almost 1,700 characters, mostly structured as a list), Mastodon vs non-Mastodon meta
I'm wondering...
What if someone on #Mastodon started a campaign for defederating everything in the #Fediverse that isn't Mastodon?
Reasons:- users of these projects keep shoving them into the faces of Mastodon users
- they think their projects are better than Mastodon
- they keep bragging about what their projects can do that Mastodon can't
- they spam Mastodon timelines with #LongPosts with over #500Characters
- they pester Mastodon users with their #RichText #TextFormatting
- they even use text formatting that Mastodon doesn't support, that must be intentional
- their mentions look weird because they're different from Mastodon mentions
- or they don't mention anyone at all when replying
- they can #FullTextSearch Mastodon already now
- they can make #QuoteToots of Mastodon toots, and nothing can stop them
- they rarely add alt-text
- they don't add content warnings because they don't have instance rules that demand so
- or they don't add content warnings because they claim that they'd allegedly got a better way of handling them, and the content warning field was actually for something else
- they never mark their images sensitive
- not a single one of their instances has signed the Mastodon Covenant
- you can't reach the admins of their instances
- or if you can, and you report a user for some of the stuff above, the admin claims the user hadn't done anything wrong
- it confuses and disturbs newbies when they find out that the Fediverse is not only Mastodon
- it makes the Fediverse too complicated if not everything is Mastodon
If you actually find this a good idea, keep in mind that defederating an entire decentralised project is a game of Whack-a-Mole. - users of these projects keep shoving them into the faces of Mastodon users