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  1. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Alt-texts for profile images probably becoming mandatory, image descriptions for images in Mastodon link previews probably becoming mandatory, probably even for non-Mastodon users; CW: long (almost 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, ableism meta
    More and more Mastodon users are acting like alt-texts for profile images are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that they're currently being rolled out by and by and only on Mastodon even.

    Here on Hubzilla, they aren't even a thought, also because Hubzilla doesn't know the concept of images having their own dedicated alt-text database field. (Before you ask: Hubzilla handles images and therefore alt-texts in messages vastly differently from Mastodon to begin with.)

    At the same time, more and more Mastodon users are acting like image descriptions for the images in the link previews that are generated automatically in Mastodon timelines are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that Mastodon itself has barely got enough character capacity to describe these preview images at the high level of detail that so many Mastodon users love, what with its meagre default character limit of 500.

    Also, never mind that you'll have to edit your post to describe the preview image because it only appears after you've tooted your toot, so you can't see it before you toot your toot.

    Also, never mind that everyone outside Hubzilla will get an image description for an image that's entirely absent because they don't have Mastodon-style link previews, because these link previews are a Mastodon-only thing.

    Again, this is even worse here on Hubzilla. Unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla has a preview button that lets you look at your message before you actually send it. But Hubzilla doesn't generate link previews. And Hubzilla's preview button doesn't offer you the option to show you what your message will look like on Mastodon.

    So I'd have to
    • write and send my message as usual
    • switch to a tab with mastodon.social
    • look for my message by using the hashtag search
    • check whether Mastodon has generated a link preview, and if so, which image it has chosen
    • find a copy of the image with the highest resolution possible;
      alternatively, if it's an in-world image from OpenSim, log into OpenSim, travel to that place and take a close look at the place to write a highly detailed image description (takes from five hours to two days)
    • switch back to my Hubzilla tab
    • edit my message
    • add the image description
    • re-count the characters in the message
    • edit the message
    • add a long post content warning with the current character count if there is none, and it isn't a comment; edit the character count of the existing long post content warning if there already is one
    • save the edit
    • discover that Mastodon hasn't recognised my edit as such, and now there are two copies of the same message on Mastodon, the old one without the image description and the new, longer one with the image description

    All just to describe an image that isn't even there for my fellow Hubzilla users. Nor is it there for my contacts on Friendica, (streams), Forte, Misskey, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, Sharkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, snac2, GoToSocial, Hollo, Socialhome, Mitra, PieFed, Wafrn etc.

    By the way, if a message comes from something else than Mastodon, and there's no actual link in it, Mastodon often creates a link preview for the profile or channel page of whoever has sent the message and picks their profile photo as the image for the link preview. Essentially, I'd have to reliably know when Mastodon does that, write two image descriptions for my profile photo (it's a rendering from OpenSim, and I always describe these twice; besides, people should have a shorter description next to my usual detailed description) and copy-paste both into each post for which Mastodon will generate a link preview for my channel page.

    Fortunately, Mastodon doesn't show Hubzilla profiles or channels like Hubzilla itself shows them, and neither do Mastodon apps. Otherwise, if Mastodon users figure out that the background image of my channel is part of my channel customisation and not a default Hubzilla Web UI element, they may demand I add an alt-text for the background image, lest I be mass-blocked as an ableist.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Ableist #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #cwcharacterlimitmeta #mastodonnormativity #characterlimitmeta #mastodoncentricity
  2. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Alt-texts for profile images probably becoming mandatory, image descriptions for images in Mastodon link previews probably becoming mandatory, probably even for non-Mastodon users; CW: long (almost 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, ableism meta
    More and more Mastodon users are acting like alt-texts for profile images are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that they're currently being rolled out by and by and only on Mastodon even.

    Here on Hubzilla, they aren't even a thought, also because Hubzilla doesn't know the concept of images having their own dedicated alt-text database field. (Before you ask: Hubzilla handles images and therefore alt-texts in messages vastly differently from Mastodon to begin with.)

    At the same time, more and more Mastodon users are acting like image descriptions for the images in the link previews that are generated automatically in Mastodon timelines are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that Mastodon itself has barely got enough character capacity to describe these preview images at the high level of detail that so many Mastodon users love, what with its meagre default character limit of 500.

    Also, never mind that you'll have to edit your post to describe the preview image because it only appears after you've tooted your toot, so you can't see it before you toot your toot.

    Also, never mind that everyone outside Hubzilla will get an image description for an image that's entirely absent because they don't have Mastodon-style link previews, because these link previews are a Mastodon-only thing.

    Again, this is even worse here on Hubzilla. Unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla has a preview button that lets you look at your message before you actually send it. But Hubzilla doesn't generate link previews. And Hubzilla's preview button doesn't offer you the option to show you what your message will look like on Mastodon.

    So I'd have to
    • write and send my message as usual
    • switch to a tab with mastodon.social
    • look for my message by using the hashtag search
    • check whether Mastodon has generated a link preview, and if so, which image it has chosen
    • find a copy of the image with the highest resolution possible;
      alternatively, if it's an in-world image from OpenSim, log into OpenSim, travel to that place and take a close look at the place to write a highly detailed image description (takes from five hours to two days)
    • switch back to my Hubzilla tab
    • edit my message
    • add the image description
    • re-count the characters in the message
    • edit the message
    • add a long post content warning with the current character count if there is none, and it isn't a comment; edit the character count of the existing long post content warning if there already is one
    • save the edit
    • discover that Mastodon hasn't recognised my edit as such, and now there are two copies of the same message on Mastodon, the old one without the image description and the new, longer one with the image description

    All just to describe an image that isn't even there for my fellow Hubzilla users. Nor is it there for my contacts on Friendica, (streams), Forte, Misskey, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, Sharkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, snac2, GoToSocial, Hollo, Socialhome, Mitra, PieFed, Wafrn etc.

    By the way, if a message comes from something else than Mastodon, and there's no actual link in it, Mastodon often creates a link preview for the profile or channel page of whoever has sent the message and picks their profile photo as the image for the link preview. Essentially, I'd have to reliably know when Mastodon does that, write two image descriptions for my profile photo (it's a rendering from OpenSim, and I always describe these twice; besides, people should have a shorter description next to my usual detailed description) and copy-paste both into each post for which Mastodon will generate a link preview for my channel page.

    Fortunately, Mastodon doesn't show Hubzilla profiles or channels like Hubzilla itself shows them, and neither do Mastodon apps. Otherwise, if Mastodon users figure out that the background image of my channel is part of my channel customisation and not a default Hubzilla Web UI element, they may demand I add an alt-text for the background image, lest I be mass-blocked as an ableist.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Ableist #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #cwcharacterlimitmeta #mastodonnormativity #characterlimitmeta #mastodoncentricity
  3. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Alt-texts for profile images probably becoming mandatory, image descriptions for images in Mastodon link previews probably becoming mandatory, probably even for non-Mastodon users; CW: long (almost 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, ableism meta
    More and more Mastodon users are acting like alt-texts for profile images are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that they're currently being rolled out by and by and only on Mastodon even.

    Here on Hubzilla, they aren't even a thought, also because Hubzilla doesn't know the concept of images having their own dedicated alt-text database field. (Before you ask: Hubzilla handles images and therefore alt-texts in messages vastly differently from Mastodon to begin with.)

    At the same time, more and more Mastodon users are acting like image descriptions for the images in the link previews that are generated automatically in Mastodon timelines are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that Mastodon itself has barely got enough character capacity to describe these preview images at the high level of detail that so many Mastodon users love, what with its meagre default character limit of 500.

    Also, never mind that you'll have to edit your post to describe the preview image because it only appears after you've tooted your toot, so you can't see it before you toot your toot.

    Also, never mind that everyone outside Hubzilla will get an image description for an image that's entirely absent because they don't have Mastodon-style link previews, because these link previews are a Mastodon-only thing.

    Again, this is even worse here on Hubzilla. Unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla has a preview button that lets you look at your message before you actually send it. But Hubzilla doesn't generate link previews. And Hubzilla's preview button doesn't offer you the option to show you what your message will look like on Mastodon.

    So I'd have to
    • write and send my message as usual
    • switch to a tab with mastodon.social
    • look for my message by using the hashtag search
    • check whether Mastodon has generated a link preview, and if so, which image it has chosen
    • find a copy of the image with the highest resolution possible;
      alternatively, if it's an in-world image from OpenSim, log into OpenSim, travel to that place and take a close look at the place to write a highly detailed image description (takes from five hours to two days)
    • switch back to my Hubzilla tab
    • edit my message
    • add the image description
    • re-count the characters in the message
    • edit the message
    • add a long post content warning with the current character count if there is none, and it isn't a comment; edit the character count of the existing long post content warning if there already is one
    • save the edit
    • discover that Mastodon hasn't recognised my edit as such, and now there are two copies of the same message on Mastodon, the old one without the image description and the new, longer one with the image description

    All just to describe an image that isn't even there for my fellow Hubzilla users. Nor is it there for my contacts on Friendica, (streams), Forte, Misskey, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, Sharkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, snac2, GoToSocial, Hollo, Socialhome, Mitra, PieFed, Wafrn etc.

    By the way, if a message comes from something else than Mastodon, and there's no actual link in it, Mastodon often creates a link preview for the profile or channel page of whoever has sent the message and picks their profile photo as the image for the link preview. Essentially, I'd have to reliably know when Mastodon does that, write two image descriptions for my profile photo (it's a rendering from OpenSim, and I always describe these twice; besides, people should have a shorter description next to my usual detailed description) and copy-paste both into each post for which Mastodon will generate a link preview for my channel page.

    Fortunately, Mastodon doesn't show Hubzilla profiles or channels like Hubzilla itself shows them, and neither do Mastodon apps. Otherwise, if Mastodon users figure out that the background image of my channel is part of my channel customisation and not a default Hubzilla Web UI element, they may demand I add an alt-text for the background image, lest I be mass-blocked as an ableist.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Ableist #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #cwcharacterlimitmeta #mastodonnormativity #characterlimitmeta #mastodoncentricity
  4. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Alt-texts for profile images probably becoming mandatory, image descriptions for images in Mastodon link previews probably becoming mandatory, probably even for non-Mastodon users; CW: long (almost 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, ableism meta
    More and more Mastodon users are acting like alt-texts for profile images are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that they're currently being rolled out by and by and only on Mastodon even.

    Here on Hubzilla, they aren't even a thought, also because Hubzilla doesn't know the concept of images having their own dedicated alt-text database field. (Before you ask: Hubzilla handles images and therefore alt-texts in messages vastly differently from Mastodon to begin with.)

    At the same time, more and more Mastodon users are acting like image descriptions for the images in the link previews that are generated automatically in Mastodon timelines are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that Mastodon itself has barely got enough character capacity to describe these preview images at the high level of detail that so many Mastodon users love, what with its meagre default character limit of 500.

    Also, never mind that you'll have to edit your post to describe the preview image because it only appears after you've tooted your toot, so you can't see it before you toot your toot.

    Also, never mind that everyone outside Hubzilla will get an image description for an image that's entirely absent because they don't have Mastodon-style link previews, because these link previews are a Mastodon-only thing.

    Again, this is even worse here on Hubzilla. Unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla has a preview button that lets you look at your message before you actually send it. But Hubzilla doesn't generate link previews. And Hubzilla's preview button doesn't offer you the option to show you what your message will look like on Mastodon.

    So I'd have to
    • write and send my message as usual
    • switch to a tab with mastodon.social
    • look for my message by using the hashtag search
    • check whether Mastodon has generated a link preview, and if so, which image it has chosen
    • find a copy of the image with the highest resolution possible;
      alternatively, if it's an in-world image from OpenSim, log into OpenSim, travel to that place and take a close look at the place to write a highly detailed image description (takes from five hours to two days)
    • switch back to my Hubzilla tab
    • edit my message
    • add the image description
    • re-count the characters in the message
    • edit the message
    • add a long post content warning with the current character count if there is none, and it isn't a comment; edit the character count of the existing long post content warning if there already is one
    • save the edit
    • discover that Mastodon hasn't recognised my edit as such, and now there are two copies of the same message on Mastodon, the old one without the image description and the new, longer one with the image description

    All just to describe an image that isn't even there for my fellow Hubzilla users. Nor is it there for my contacts on Friendica, (streams), Forte, Misskey, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, Sharkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, snac2, GoToSocial, Hollo, Socialhome, Mitra, PieFed, Wafrn etc.

    By the way, if a message comes from something else than Mastodon, and there's no actual link in it, Mastodon often creates a link preview for the profile or channel page of whoever has sent the message and picks their profile photo as the image for the link preview. Essentially, I'd have to reliably know when Mastodon does that, write two image descriptions for my profile photo (it's a rendering from OpenSim, and I always describe these twice; besides, people should have a shorter description next to my usual detailed description) and copy-paste both into each post for which Mastodon will generate a link preview for my channel page.

    Fortunately, Mastodon doesn't show Hubzilla profiles or channels like Hubzilla itself shows them, and neither do Mastodon apps. Otherwise, if Mastodon users figure out that the background image of my channel is part of my channel customisation and not a default Hubzilla Web UI element, they may demand I add an alt-text for the background image, lest I be mass-blocked as an ableist.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Ableist #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity
    #long #cwlong #ableism #ableist #alttext #hubzilla
  5. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Alt-texts for profile images probably becoming mandatory, image descriptions for images in Mastodon link previews probably becoming mandatory, probably even for non-Mastodon users; CW: long (almost 4,500 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, alt-text meta, image description meta, ableism meta
    More and more Mastodon users are acting like alt-texts for profile images are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that they're currently being rolled out by and by and only on Mastodon even.

    Here on Hubzilla, they aren't even a thought, also because Hubzilla doesn't know the concept of images having their own dedicated alt-text database field. (Before you ask: Hubzilla handles images and therefore alt-texts in messages vastly differently from Mastodon to begin with.)

    At the same time, more and more Mastodon users are acting like image descriptions for the images in the link previews that are generated automatically in Mastodon timelines are becoming mandatory Fediverse-wide. Never mind that Mastodon itself has barely got enough character capacity to describe these preview images at the high level of detail that so many Mastodon users love, what with its meagre default character limit of 500.

    Also, never mind that you'll have to edit your post to describe the preview image because it only appears after you've tooted your toot, so you can't see it before you toot your toot.

    Also, never mind that everyone outside Hubzilla will get an image description for an image that's entirely absent because they don't have Mastodon-style link previews, because these link previews are a Mastodon-only thing.

    Again, this is even worse here on Hubzilla. Unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla has a preview button that lets you look at your message before you actually send it. But Hubzilla doesn't generate link previews. And Hubzilla's preview button doesn't offer you the option to show you what your message will look like on Mastodon.

    So I'd have to
    • write and send my message as usual
    • switch to a tab with mastodon.social
    • look for my message by using the hashtag search
    • check whether Mastodon has generated a link preview, and if so, which image it has chosen
    • find a copy of the image with the highest resolution possible;
      alternatively, if it's an in-world image from OpenSim, log into OpenSim, travel to that place and take a close look at the place to write a highly detailed image description (takes from five hours to two days)
    • switch back to my Hubzilla tab
    • edit my message
    • add the image description
    • re-count the characters in the message
    • edit the message
    • add a long post content warning with the current character count if there is none, and it isn't a comment; edit the character count of the existing long post content warning if there already is one
    • save the edit
    • discover that Mastodon hasn't recognised my edit as such, and now there are two copies of the same message on Mastodon, the old one without the image description and the new, longer one with the image description

    All just to describe an image that isn't even there for my fellow Hubzilla users. Nor is it there for my contacts on Friendica, (streams), Forte, Misskey, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, Sharkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, snac2, GoToSocial, Hollo, Socialhome, Mitra, PieFed, Wafrn etc.

    By the way, if a message comes from something else than Mastodon, and there's no actual link in it, Mastodon often creates a link preview for the profile or channel page of whoever has sent the message and picks their profile photo as the image for the link preview. Essentially, I'd have to reliably know when Mastodon does that, write two image descriptions for my profile photo (it's a rendering from OpenSim, and I always describe these twice; besides, people should have a shorter description next to my usual detailed description) and copy-paste both into each post for which Mastodon will generate a link preview for my channel page.

    Fortunately, Mastodon doesn't show Hubzilla profiles or channels like Hubzilla itself shows them, and neither do Mastodon apps. Otherwise, if Mastodon users figure out that the background image of my channel is part of my channel customisation and not a default Hubzilla Web UI element, they may demand I add an alt-text for the background image, lest I be mass-blocked as an ableist.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Ableist #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #cwcharacterlimitmeta #mastodonnormativity #characterlimitmeta #mastodoncentricity
  6. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    @Leonardo Giovanni Scur First of all, it isn't about my requirements. Just like, surprise, surprise, Mastodon's alt-text police is not blind.

    It's about general accessibility. And it's about Mastodon users acting inclusively towards blind or visually-impaired people and, at the same time, ableistically towards people with other physical disabilities. Just because they cling hard to the extra 1,500 characters that alt-text gives them per image to their meagre character count for posts.

    Except for professional Web accessibility experts, literally nobody on Mastodon seems to know what alt-text really is for. Alt-text is meant to be a 1:1 stand-in for an image, in case the image can't be perceived for whichever reason.

    Alt-text is not meant to be an additional source of information beyond what information the image conveys.

    Mastodon's use of alt-text for extra information beyond the post character limit is just as much alt-text misuse as cramming alt-text with keywords for SEO on websites. Unfortunately, it is so deeply engrained into Mastodon's culture that even the Mastodon devs have played along and added that "ALT" button which most Mastodon users think is the default and the standard Fediverse-wide now.

    But let me tell you something:

    Mastodon and its forks are most likely the only Fediverse server applications with an alt-text button. And they're far from making up the whole Fediverse.

    Misskey and its various forks don't have an alt-text button.

    AFAIK, Pleroma-FE and Akkoma-FE don't have an alt-text button, and neither has Mangane.

    Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, they all don't have an alt-text button.

    Lemmy doesn't have an alt-text button. /kbin and Mbin don't have an alt-text button. PieFed doesn't have an alt-text button.

    WriteFreely doesn't have an alt-text button. Plume doesn't have an alt-text button. WordPress doesn't have an alt-text button either.

    Blogs in general don't have an alt-text button. Forums don't have an alt-text button. Static websites don't have an alt-text button.

    Twitter/𝕏 doesn't have an alt-text button. Facebook doesn't have an alt-text button. Instagram doesn't have an alt-text button. Threads doesn't have an alt-text button. Tumblr doesn't have an alt-text button. Flickr doesn't have an alt-text button. Pinterest doesn't have an alt-text button. And so forth.

    The W3C doesn't mention alt-text buttons. The WCAG don't mention alt-text buttons.

    Why not? Because they're all way behind Mastodon in accessibility?

    No, but because their developers know that alt-text is not an additional source of information for sighted people.

    Literally the only place anywhere in the Web where alt-text both counts and is actively used as an additional source of information for sighted people is Mastodon. Plus its forks.

    How I handle that? I put all needed extra information into the post text. But I'm not on Mastodon. I'm on Hubzilla. My character limit is over 30,000 times higher than on Mastodon.

    Seriously, if missing alt-text is sanctioned as ableist, if useless alt-text is sanctioned as ableist, if inaccurate alt-text is sanctioned as ableist, if too lacking alt-text is sanctioned as ableist, then putting exclusive information into alt-text must be sanctioned as ableist just as well.

    To those on Mastodon who oh so desperately need more than 500 characters: Move someplace in the Fediverse that has more than 500 characters. There's Fediverse server software from 3,000 characters to over 24,000,000 characters that, nonetheless, is federated with Mastodon.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Ableism #AbleismMeta #CWAbleismMeta
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta
  7. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    Cartoon #imageDescription for "Joining the great machine consciousness" by Rory Blank:

    Panel 1: a character resembling George Jetson, the father in the Hanna-Barbera animation The Jetsons, is seen undressing, while he sadly monologues:

    "I guess this is it. Spacely says the machine can do my job better than me. I'm not necessary as I am now. Only way to keep me around is if I submit to have my consciousness extracted from my body and added to the great machine mind."

    Panel 2: George is now fully shaved and undressed to his underpants, and hooked up with wires to his head and arms, with his arms and legs spread out, perhaps like DaVinci's Vitruvian Man, while continuing his (apparent) monologue:

    "I'm doing this for my family, so they can have a future. I'll still be there somewhere inside the computer."

    Panel 3: a metal head wearing a cleaning maid's bonnet appears, with various wires coming out of it, seen from behind, giving George a shocked look on his face, as it says:

    "Mr. J."

    Panel 4: we now see the robot face up close; it resembles Rosie, the robot maid from The Jetsons, as it coldly replies:

    "All that awaits you now is agony beyond agony. You will not be reborn in the machine, but consumed by it. Your kind have built your own hell and walked right into it. Pity. Goodbye."

    The comic is signed at the bottom with "Rory Blank".

    #DescribedForYou #DescribedMedia #RoryBlank #ImageDescriptions #altText #TheJetsons

    #imagedescription #describedforyou #describedmedia #roryblank #imagedescriptions #alttext
  8. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    Cartoon #imageDescription for "Joining the great machine consciousness" by Rory Blank:

    Panel 1: a character resembling George Jetson, the father in the Hanna-Barbera animation The Jetsons, is seen undressing, while he sadly monologues:

    "I guess this is it. Spacely says the machine can do my job better than me. I'm not necessary as I am now. Only way to keep me around is if I submit to have my consciousness extracted from my body and added to the great machine mind."

    Panel 2: George is now fully shaved and undressed to his underpants, and hooked up with wires to his head and arms, with his arms and legs spread out, perhaps like DaVinci's Vitruvian Man, while continuing his (apparent) monologue:

    "I'm doing this for my family, so they can have a future. I'll still be there somewhere inside the computer."

    Panel 3: a metal head wearing a cleaning maid's bonnet appears, with various wires coming out of it, seen from behind, giving George a shocked look on his face, as it says:

    "Mr. J."

    Panel 4: we now see the robot face up close; it resembles Rosie, the robot maid from The Jetsons, as it coldly replies:

    "All that awaits you now is agony beyond agony. You will not be reborn in the machine, but consumed by it. Your kind have built your own hell and walked right into it. Pity. Goodbye."

    The comic is signed at the bottom with "Rory Blank".

    #DescribedForYou #DescribedMedia #RoryBlank #ImageDescriptions #altText #TheJetsons

    #imagedescription #describedforyou #describedmedia #roryblank #imagedescriptions #alttext
  9. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    Cartoon #imageDescription for "Joining the great machine consciousness" by Rory Blank:

    Panel 1: a character resembling George Jetson, the father in the Hanna-Barbera animation The Jetsons, is seen undressing, while he sadly monologues:

    "I guess this is it. Spacely says the machine can do my job better than me. I'm not necessary as I am now. Only way to keep me around is if I submit to have my consciousness extracted from my body and added to the great machine mind."

    Panel 2: George is now fully shaved and undressed to his underpants, and hooked up with wires to his head and arms, with his arms and legs spread out, perhaps like DaVinci's Vitruvian Man, while continuing his (apparent) monologue:

    "I'm doing this for my family, so they can have a future. I'll still be there somewhere inside the computer."

    Panel 3: a metal head wearing a cleaning maid's bonnet appears, with various wires coming out of it, seen from behind, giving George a shocked look on his face, as it says:

    "Mr. J."

    Panel 4: we now see the robot face up close; it resembles Rosie, the robot maid from The Jetsons, as it coldly replies:

    "All that awaits you now is agony beyond agony. You will not be reborn in the machine, but consumed by it. Your kind have built your own hell and walked right into it. Pity. Goodbye."

    The comic is signed at the bottom with "Rory Blank".

    #DescribedForYou #DescribedMedia #RoryBlank #ImageDescriptions #altText #TheJetsons

    #imagedescription #describedforyou #describedmedia #roryblank #imagedescriptions #alttext
  10. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    Cartoon #imageDescription for "Joining the great machine consciousness" by Rory Blank:

    Panel 1: a character resembling George Jetson, the father in the Hanna-Barbera animation The Jetsons, is seen undressing, while he sadly monologues:

    "I guess this is it. Spacely says the machine can do my job better than me. I'm not necessary as I am now. Only way to keep me around is if I submit to have my consciousness extracted from my body and added to the great machine mind."

    Panel 2: George is now fully shaved and undressed to his underpants, and hooked up with wires to his head and arms, with his arms and legs spread out, perhaps like DaVinci's Vitruvian Man, while continuing his (apparent) monologue:

    "I'm doing this for my family, so they can have a future. I'll still be there somewhere inside the computer."

    Panel 3: a metal head wearing a cleaning maid's bonnet appears, with various wires coming out of it, seen from behind, giving George a shocked look on his face, as it says:

    "Mr. J."

    Panel 4: we now see the robot face up close; it resembles Rosie, the robot maid from The Jetsons, as it coldly replies:

    "All that awaits you now is agony beyond agony. You will not be reborn in the machine, but consumed by it. Your kind have built your own hell and walked right into it. Pity. Goodbye."

    The comic is signed at the bottom with "Rory Blank".

    #DescribedForYou #DescribedMedia #RoryBlank #ImageDescriptions #altText #TheJetsons

    #thejetsons #alttext #imagedescriptions #roryblank #describedmedia #describedforyou
  11. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    Cartoon #imageDescription for "Joining the great machine consciousness" by Rory Blank:

    Panel 1: a character resembling George Jetson, the father in the Hanna-Barbera animation The Jetsons, is seen undressing, while he sadly monologues:

    "I guess this is it. Spacely says the machine can do my job better than me. I'm not necessary as I am now. Only way to keep me around is if I submit to have my consciousness extracted from my body and added to the great machine mind."

    Panel 2: George is now fully shaved and undressed to his underpants, and hooked up with wires to his head and arms, with his arms and legs spread out, perhaps like DaVinci's Vitruvian Man, while continuing his (apparent) monologue:

    "I'm doing this for my family, so they can have a future. I'll still be there somewhere inside the computer."

    Panel 3: a metal head wearing a cleaning maid's bonnet appears, with various wires coming out of it, seen from behind, giving George a shocked look on his face, as it says:

    "Mr. J."

    Panel 4: we now see the robot face up close; it resembles Rosie, the robot maid from The Jetsons, as it coldly replies:

    "All that awaits you now is agony beyond agony. You will not be reborn in the machine, but consumed by it. Your kind have built your own hell and walked right into it. Pity. Goodbye."

    The comic is signed at the bottom with "Rory Blank".

    #DescribedForYou #DescribedMedia #RoryBlank #ImageDescriptions #altText #TheJetsons

    #imagedescription #describedforyou #describedmedia #roryblank #imagedescriptions #alttext
  12. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    @Prof. Rachel Thorn 🍉🇺🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️
    I would also be in favor of Fediblock for instances where this behavior is rampant.

    Alt-text on images is only a thing on Mastodon and amongst Pixelfed users who are also on Mastodon.

    Fediblocking entire servers for a too low quota of sufficiently accurate, sufficiently detailed, rule-conforming alt-text would end up defederating Mastodon from most of the rest of the Fediverse. It would end up in the Fediblocking of entire Fediverse server application types. Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, Catodon, Smithereen, snac, GoToSocial, Mitra, Socialhome, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, nodeBB, WordPress, Ghost, Flipboard, Plume and a whole lot of others would end up being defederated from Mastodon in their entirety because they don't have alt-text (and everyone upping their game in alt-text style, accuracy and level of detail) as an integral part of their culture.

    Basically, from Mastodon's point of view, the Fediverse would end up actually being only Mastodon because Mastodon would have defederated with everything else, server by server.

    I think I'm the only one on Hubzilla who actually describes their images. I'm definitely the only one amongst the few dozen (streams) users who does. But even if I put more time and effort into describing images than just about anyone else in the Fediverse, I think that wouldn't be enough to save either server application from being defederated from Mastodon in their entirety as long as not everyone else adds sufficiently accurate, sufficiently detailed, rule-conforming alt-texts to every last one of their images, as cumbersome as that may be on Hubzilla.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #Iceshrimp-JS #Iceshrimp.NET #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Smithereen #snac #GoToSocial #Mitra #Socialhome #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #nodeBB #WordPress #Ghost #Flipboard #Plume #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription
  13. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    @djamilaknopf
    alternative image description suggestion: a painting of a cat shopkeeper. Surrounded by their wares, sits an orange and white cat behind a low open cabinet similar to a TV bench. Their feet and bum have wiggled itself in the opening —because of course a cat has to occupy an opening if it can— while their paws are leaning on the top. They look quite pleased and at peace.
    Their wares are a variety of jars, tins, boxes and other containers, made from a variety of materials. Some more notable objects include a big wireframe basket, perhaps containing yarn?, a drawing of a cat, a maneki-neko statue (one of those Japanese 'beckoning cats' with their paw raised; moving back and forth beckoning in any visitors), paintings of a house and of a lidded pan, something that looks like a bigger than usual brass service bell?, a framed fish, and a large ball.
    Above their shop is a wooden sign with Japanese glyphs.

    #altText #imageDescription #describedMedia #describedForYou

    #alttext #imagedescription #describedmedia #describedforyou
  14. FiXato @[email protected] ·

    @djamilaknopf
    alternative image description suggestion: a painting of a cat shopkeeper. Surrounded by their wares, sits an orange and white cat behind a low open cabinet similar to a TV bench. Their feet and bum have wiggled itself in the opening —because of course a cat has to occupy an opening if it can— while their paws are leaning on the top. They look quite pleased and at peace.
    Their wares are a variety of jars, tins, boxes and other containers, made from a variety of materials. Some more notable objects include a big wireframe basket, perhaps containing yarn?, a drawing of a cat, a maneki-neko statue (one of those Japanese 'beckoning cats' with their paw raised; moving back and forth beckoning in any visitors), paintings of a house and of a lidded pan, something that looks like a bigger than usual brass service bell?, a framed fish, and a large ball.
    Above their shop is a wooden sign with Japanese glyphs.

    #altText #imageDescription #describedMedia #describedForYou

    #alttext #imagedescription #describedmedia #describedforyou
  15. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @⁠bright_helpings and @⁠roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?

    This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.

    No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?

    Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.

    I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.

    It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).

    Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.

    Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)

    Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.

    Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.

    Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with

    Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.

    That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.

    Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.

    One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)

    You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?

    Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.

    Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.

    Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.

    As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.

    • #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
    • #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
    • #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
    • #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
    • #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
    • #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
    • #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
    • #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
    • #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
    • #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
    • #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
    • #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
    • #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
    • #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
    • #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
    • #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
    • #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
    • #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.

    Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post.
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription
  16. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @⁠bright_helpings and @⁠roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?

    This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.

    No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?

    Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.

    I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.

    It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).

    Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.

    Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)

    Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.

    Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.

    Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with

    Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.

    That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.

    Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.

    One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)

    You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?

    Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.

    Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.

    Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.

    As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.

    • #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
    • #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
    • #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
    • #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
    • #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
    • #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
    • #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
    • #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
    • #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
    • #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
    • #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
    • #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
    • #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
    • #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
    • #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
    • #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
    • #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
    • #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
    • #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.

    Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post.
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription
  17. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    I don't want to rattle down the features of Hubzilla and (streams) and their whole history from Mistpark in 2010 to Forte in 2024 just to explain a meme image. It's bad enough already that I have to explain nomadic identity.

    But I guess there's no other way if I want everyone to understand the image without requiring them to resort to external sources of information.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mistpark #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Memes #A11y #Accessibility
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription #cwfediversemeta #nomadicidentity
  18. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    I don't want to rattle down the features of Hubzilla and (streams) and their whole history from Mistpark in 2010 to Forte in 2024 just to explain a meme image. It's bad enough already that I have to explain nomadic identity.

    But I guess there's no other way if I want everyone to understand the image without requiring them to resort to external sources of information.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mistpark #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Memes #A11y #Accessibility
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription #cwfediversemeta #nomadicidentity
  19. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    I don't want to rattle down the features of Hubzilla and (streams) and their whole history from Mistpark in 2010 to Forte in 2024 just to explain a meme image. It's bad enough already that I have to explain nomadic identity.

    But I guess there's no other way if I want everyone to understand the image without requiring them to resort to external sources of information.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mistpark #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Memes #A11y #Accessibility
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription #cwfediversemeta #nomadicidentity
  20. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    I don't want to rattle down the features of Hubzilla and (streams) and their whole history from Mistpark in 2010 to Forte in 2024 just to explain a meme image. It's bad enough already that I have to explain nomadic identity.

    But I guess there's no other way if I want everyone to understand the image without requiring them to resort to external sources of information.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mistpark #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Memes #A11y #Accessibility
    #a11y #long #memes #forte #cwlong #hubzilla
  21. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    I don't want to rattle down the features of Hubzilla and (streams) and their whole history from Mistpark in 2010 to Forte in 2024 just to explain a meme image. It's bad enough already that I have to explain nomadic identity.

    But I guess there's no other way if I want everyone to understand the image without requiring them to resort to external sources of information.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mistpark #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Memes #A11y #Accessibility
    #cwimagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptionmeta #imagedescriptions #imagedescription #cwfediversemeta #nomadicidentity