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  1. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta #fediverseculture #cwfediversemeta
  2. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta #fediverseculture #cwfediversemeta
  3. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta #fediverseculture #cwfediversemeta
  4. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #long #lists #groups #cwlong #richtext #hubzilla
  5. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta #fediverseculture #cwfediversemeta
  6. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    CW: Uncomfortable truth about the Fediverse that'll totally scare Mastodon users; CW: long (over 2,400 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, quote-post meta, character limit meta
    When you see it, you'll shit brix: The Hubzilla timeline.

    The "it" that you're supposed to see is:
    • The Fediverse did, in fact, not start with Mastodon.
      There was something in the Fediverse before Mastodon: Mistpark was there almost 6 years before Mastodon, Hubzilla was there 10 months before Mastodon.
      Mastodon came into an already existing Fediverse with servers and users and content and a culture.
      The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. And it will never be.
    • The Fediverse had quote-posts almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      (Accurate implication: The non-Mastodon Fediverse can quote-post any public Mastodon toot with no problems, and it has always been able to do so, for as long as Mastodon has been around.)
    • The Fediverse had groups almost 6 years before Mastodon which still doesn't even support groups.
    • The Fediverse had better lists than Mastodon lists almost 6 years before Mastodon.
    • The Fediverse had reply control almost 6 years before Mastodon where people are still waiting for some kind of reply control.
    • The Fediverse had permissions almost 6 years before Mastodon where the concept of permissions is completely unknown.
    And if you've really paid attention:
    • The Fediverse had no character limit to worry about almost 6 years before Mastodon came along with only 500 characters.
      The Fediverse had 16,777,215 characters almost 6 years before Mastodon had 500 characters.
    • The Fediverse had full rich-text formatting almost 6 years before Mastodon.
      The Fediverse could generate bold type, italics, underline, code blocks, bullet-point lists etc. without any Unicode trickery. Almost 6 years before Mastodon was there. And more than 12 years before Mastodon could even only display that stuff.

    Although it should be blatantly obvious: This here is not a Mastodon toot. This post comes from Hubzilla directly to your Mastodon apps.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Mistpark #Friendica #Hubzilla #FediverseCulture #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #Lists #ReplyControl #Permissions #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #500Characters #TextFormatting #RichText #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwcharacterlimitmeta #characterlimitmeta #fediverseculture #cwfediversemeta
  7. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    @Jasper Burns

    Permissions meet groups


    It gets really interesting when the permissions system is applied to groups. As the owner of a Hubzilla forum, you have the following options:
    • You can control who can see the profile of the forum, i.e. what it is all about. For example, you can only allow confirmed members to see it. Or, in fact, you can only allow certain members to see it by assigning a specific contact role to them. Or you could make it Fediverse-specific: Only those who can be recognised as logged-in Fediverse users can see the profile. Or you can hide it altogether.
    • You can control who can see the contacts, i.e. the forum members, all the same. Like, for example, only a chosen inner circle may be allowed to see the list of forum members, but Joe Average Forum Member is not.
    • Likewise, you can control who can see what has already happened in the forum when visiting the group profile.
    • You can choose to hide the whole forum from the directory, the place where people go to find new contacts (the mastodon.social equivalent is https://mastodon.social/directory), to keep the forum secret altogether by keeping people from finding it accidentally or by searching.

    (streams) and Forte have four different types of group channels instead:
    • Normal: public, group members may upload media to the group's file storage
    • Limited: public, but group members may not upload media to the group's file storage
    • Moderated: like Limited, but by default, posts and comments by new group members have to be approved by the admins; members may have their permissions upgraded and post and comment without approval once they've proven themselves worthy
    • Restricted: private, profile is only visible to group members, stream of posts and comments is only visible to group members, posts and comments are only sent to group members, but group members may upload media to the group's file storage
    Whether or not a group is visible in the directory is a separate switch.

    As I've already said, you can grant individual permissions to your contacts on your personal channel. But you can grant individual permissions to forum users on a forum channel just the same. You can have regular users. You can have users with certain extra privileges. You can use the permissions system to silence users without kicking and blocking them.

    And you can use the permissions system to appoint extra forum admins/mods. You can grant contacts permission to administer your forum. Now, this requires for your channel to recognise visitors and their identities to see what permissions they shall have and to grant them these permissions. And this requires OpenWebAuth. So right now, you can only make forum members from Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Friendica, Mitra and Tootik additional admins/mods. But you can.

    (9/9)

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Privacy #Security #Permission #Permissions #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #PrivateGroups
    #cwfediversemeta #fediversegroups #fediversemeta #privategroups #permissions #cwlongpost
  8. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    @Jasper Burns
    I'd like to see more of that in the fediverse features like events, groups, moderation, different roles, permissions etc. complemented by secure communication!

    The Fediverse has literally got just about of this right now. Mastodon doesn't. But the Fediverse does because there's stuff in the Fediverse, as in federated with Mastodon, that has it. And it has had all of this for longer than Mastodon has even existed.

    Friendica


    Friendica has
    • federating events
    • groups (which are special accounts)
    • private groups
    • hidden groups
    • moderated groups
    • groups with multiple moderators on the same server
    • a permissions system
    • DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
    • etc.

    Friendica is from May, 2010, over five and a half years older than Mastodon.

    It was made as an alternative for Facebook right away. It was not meant to be a Facebook clone, though, but better than Facebook while also covering all long-form blogging features.

    And Friendica is fully federated with Mastodon. You can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon, and Friendica users can connect to your Mastodon account from Friendica.

    Hubzilla


    Hubzilla has
    • federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
    • groups (which are special channels; Hubzilla calls them "forums")
    • various independent options of making groups private that can be combined
    • hidden groups, groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
    • the second-most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 17 different permissions and seven or eight channel-wide permission levels for each
    • DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
    • optional additional encryption (only works within Hubzilla)
    • optional non-federating articles
    • optional planning cards
    • optional webpages
    • optional wikis
    • nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
    • etc. etc.

    Hubzilla is from March, 2016, ten months older than Mastodon. It was created by Friendica's creator by rebuilding and repurposing a fork of a fork of Friendica.

    It is considered a "decentralised social content management system" that can be just about anything you want it to be because it's so modular. Basically, what's incomplete and unstable at best and an unfulfilled promise at worst on Bonfire has been readily available and rock-solid stable for over 10 years on Hubzilla. And even more on top of that.

    Red, the Hubzilla precursor, was the first software to establish nomadic identity, something that Bluesky claims to be in the process of inventing from scratch. And that was as early as 2012.

    Hubzilla was the very first software to implement ActivityPub. And unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla implemented ActivityPub by the book and largely still does so.

    And Hubzilla is optionally fully federated with Mastodon. In fact, this comment that you're reading right now comes from Hubzilla. Like, you're directly speaking with someone on something that has absolutely everything you wish for the Fediverse to have, and that has had all of it for longer than Mastodon has existed.

    (streams), Forte


    (streams) and Forte have
    • federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
    • groups (which are special channels)
    • private groups
    • hidden groups
    • groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
    • groups with moderated posting and commenting (as in posts and comments from new members will have to be confirmed by the moderators in order to be visible)
    • the most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 15 different permissions and three or four channel-wide permission levels for each
    • DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
    • nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
    • etc.

    (streams) is from October, 2021. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla.

    Forte is from August, 2024. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of (streams).

    Forte was the first software to establish nomadic identity via ActivityPub.

    And both are fully federated with Mastodon; (streams) optionally so, but it is by default.

    I've made a document with a series of tables which directly compare the features of Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:

    https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/0a75de76-eb27-4149-b708-f20b2f79d392

    In fact, this document is on the very same Hubzilla channel that I'm commenting from right now.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Calendar #Events #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #PrivateGroups #Permission #Permissions
    #mastodonisnotthefediverse #fediverseisnotmastodon #cwfediversemeta #notonlymastodon #fediversegroups #fediversemeta
  9. Jupiter Rowland @[email protected] ·
    @mradcliffe The danger in this, however, is that another Fediverse feature that's way older than Mastodon and at the same time absent from Mastodon would be reappropriated as something else, making Mastodon even more incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse.

    In 2017, Mastodon introduced its content warning field. Ever since, almost everyone on Mastodon has been fully convinced that Eugen Rochko had invented that field from scratch. (Be honest, how about you?)

    However, Mastodon's content warning field is actually a summary field that has been used by StatusNet, Friendica and Hubzilla as such since 2008, 2010 and 2012 respectively. Mastodon hadn't had any support for that summary field at first, for you don't need a summary for 500 characters. And I guess that coder from the demo scene who submitted the merge request that reappropriated the summary field as a content warning field was blissfully unaware that Mastodon was actually connected to something that did use the summary field as such.

    And now you have Mastodon users scolding Friendica users because the latter allegedly misuse the CW field for "like a subject or smth idk", unaware that the self-same field has been the abstract field on Friendica for five and a half years longer than Mastodon has even existed and some seven years longer than Mastodon had its CW field.

    Today, in 2025, next to nobody on Mastodon knows that the Fediverse already has group actors, and probably neither do many on the *keys. Neither Mastodon nor Misskey nor their respective forks have or support groups in any way.

    If they go and reappropriate group actors as starter packs, this will break compatibility with Friendica groups, Hubzilla forums, (streams) groups, Forte groups, Lemmy communities, /kbin magazines, Mbin magazines, PieFed communities, NodeBB forums etc., all of which can be and often already are being followed by Mastodon and *key users right now. And again, they've all had group actors since their respective inception.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #NodeBB #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta #Group #Groups #GroupActor #GroupActors #FediGroups #FediverseGroups
    #contentwarningmeta #cwfediversemeta #contentwarnings #fediversegroups #contentwarning #fediversemeta