#copyfarleft — Public Fediverse posts

This includes #CopyFarLeft licenses.

One might argue that unlike trying to prevent torture, limiting use of a piece of software by capitalists or corporations is something a copyright license can actually do. But is it? AFAIK no CopyFarLeft license has been tested in court. So we don't really know.

But the whole idea of these licenses is to protect some actors from economically stronger ones. All else being equal, economically stronger actors can afford the better copyright lawyers.

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The argument against Source Available licenses in a single sentence;

"We need to stop torture, but we can't do it through software licenses."

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.html

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#SoftwareFreedom #SourceAvailable #CopyFarLeft

@owiecc this idea is similar to #copyfarleft. The idea there is to extend software freedom to organization that respect workers’ freedom like worker cooperatives and charge non-cooperatives for use of the software.

@gedankenstuecke

This is a long read, but I think it has a much more coherent take on the idea of creating ethical, political, or anti-capitalistic software licenses:

https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/

#nccc #ppl #agpl #gpl #foss #fosh #freesoftware #freehardware #license #licensing #softwarelicense #softwarelicensing #copyleft #copyfarleft

@gedankenstuecke

This is a long read, but I think it has a much more coherent take on the idea of creating ethical, political, or anti-capitalistic software licenses:

https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/

#nccc #ppl #agpl #gpl #foss #fosh #freesoftware #freehardware #license #licensing #softwarelicense #softwarelicensing #copyleft #copyfarleft

@gedankenstuecke

This is a long read, but I think it has a much more coherent take on the idea of creating ethical, political, or anti-capitalistic software licenses:

https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/

#nccc #ppl #agpl #gpl #foss #fosh #freesoftware #freehardware #license #licensing #softwarelicense #softwarelicensing #copyleft #copyfarleft

@gedankenstuecke

This is a long read, but I think it has a much more coherent take on the idea of creating ethical, political, or anti-capitalistic software licenses:

https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/

#nccc #ppl #agpl #gpl #foss #fosh #freesoftware #freehardware #license #licensing #softwarelicense #softwarelicensing #copyleft #copyfarleft

@contrapunctus @Wuzzy There is actually this idea, #copyfarleft, that is like a #copyleft license that requires that commercial users are structured as worker coops

@nixCraft Widespread use of permissive #OpenSource licenses. We should be using #copyleft as a bare minimum and probably use even stronger licenses like #copyfarleft. There is no point in releasing code under licenses that don't require some form of reciprocity from commercial capitalist users. There is no virtue in developing software for free for capitalists

@tothedaring I have been thinking about this as well. FOSS has the kernel of a new mode of production within it. I think some ideas such an endeavor could take inspiration from are #copyfarleft, which requires commercial users to be structured as worker coops. Within the commons any funds should be allocated by democratic non-market mechanisms like quadratic funding. See (5 minutes):

https://youtu.be/xwY0UAk14Rk

@beejjorgensen @F100 @ajroach42 Even without government spending, there are ways to start experiment with these mechanisms now through clever licensing schemes and special organizations representing the commons as in #copyfarleft, #copyfair and harberger licenses

@beejjorgensen @F100 @ajroach42 Even without government spending, there are ways to start experiment with these mechanisms now through clever licensing schemes and special organizations representing the commons as in #copyfarleft, #copyfair and harberger licenses

@beejjorgensen @F100 @ajroach42 Even without government spending, there are ways to start experiment with these mechanisms now through clever licensing schemes and special organizations representing the commons as in #copyfarleft, #copyfair and harberger licenses

@beejjorgensen @F100 @ajroach42 Even without government spending, there are ways to start experiment with these mechanisms now through clever licensing schemes and special organizations representing the commons as in #copyfarleft, #copyfair and harberger licenses

@matrix I don't fully understand the different licenses in this case. I think I get the overall dilemma. It reminds me of similar license discussions about profit/non-profit and how to keep actors on a competitive commodity market from exploiting commons. I think Dmitry Kleiner did some really important work with the idea of #copyfarleft that perhaps could be built on.

@chaz When there was not a lot of free/libre "copyleft" software around it perhaps made some sense to have software from corporations channelled in to the "commons". But now with the commons channelling software into the corporate, and the corporate getting a free/cheap labour force, some thought at least is being given to how the commons deals with all of this, including discussion of a new idea of #copyfarleft. These are ideas that will need some serious discussion and debate.

@chaz Another concept that is beginning to be discussed is #copyfarleft

There's some discussion of these types of licenses here:

https://github.com/LibreCybernetics/awesome-copyfarleft

Just published my first libre source library: a small TOML library for Scala 3. :3

Triple Licensed under:

- Anticapitalist Software License
- Cooperative Software License, or
- Parity Public License (AGPL-like, bit stronger contribution requirments)

Code: https://github.com/LibreCybernetics/Monorepo/tree/main/code/lib/toml

Still incomplete but a first release non-the-less (v0.1.0-M1)

https://jitpack.io/#dev.librecybernetics/Monorepo

```
"dev.librecybernetics.Monorepo" %%% "toml" % "lib-toml-v0.1.0-M1"
```

Still need to learn a lot about POMs, publishing, jars, etc.

#scala #foss #LibreSource #LibreSoftware #copyfarleft #OpenSource

Hey #LibreSource / #OpenSource and #Leftist / #Cooperativist fediverse,

Here is a small repo (self promo) linking you both via #Copyfarleft / #Copyfair:

https://github.com/LibreCybernetics/awesome-copyfarleft

Hey #LibreSource / #OpenSource and #Leftist / #Cooperativist fediverse,

Here is a small repo (self promo) linking you both via #Copyfarleft / #Copyfair:

https://github.com/LibreCybernetics/awesome-copyfarleft

Hey #LibreSource / #OpenSource and #Leftist / #Cooperativist fediverse,

Here is a small repo (self promo) linking you both via #Copyfarleft / #Copyfair:

https://github.com/LibreCybernetics/awesome-copyfarleft

@ArneBab @tunda Was hält uns ab das Spiel zu übersetzen? Es ist frei lizenziert.

Ich habe keine Erfahrung damit, aber mittels #TranslateWiki könnten wir einen Versuch unternehmen. Habt ihr Zeit und Lust mitzumachen?

(Auf der Webseite ist nicht nur von #copyleft, sondern #copyfarleft die Rede; Es wundert mich, dass noch keine deutsche Sprachversion existiert. Dabei ist die meinem Gefühl nach doch oft eine der Übersetzungen die häufig in #FLOSS verfügbar ist.)

El #copyfarleft y la #propiedadintelectual #comunal

https://www.iis.unam.mx/blog/el-copyfarleft-y-la-propiedad-intelectual-comunal/

Copyfarleft

Copyfarleft is specifically limited to worker-owned entities and cooperatives, which some may find restrictive. So Copyfair addresses more generically the relations between commons communities and the market entities working with them, expecting reciprocity in exchange for commercial rights (note from Michel Bauwens)

"The main argument advanced in the essay is that artists can not earn a living from exclusivity of "intellectual property" and that that neither copyleft licenses like the GPL, nor "copyjustright" frameworks such as the creative commons, can help." ...

http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Copyfarleft

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25032406

#CopyFarLeft #copyleft #CreativeCommons #MichelBauwens #AlanToner #p2pFoundation #p2p

Copyfarleft

Copyfarleft is specifically limited to worker-owned entities and cooperatives, which some may find restrictive. So Copyfair addresses more generically the relations between commons communities and the market entities working with them, expecting reciprocity in exchange for commercial rights (note from Michel Bauwens)

"The main argument advanced in the essay is that artists can not earn a living from exclusivity of "intellectual property" and that that neither copyleft licenses like the GPL, nor "copyjustright" frameworks such as the creative commons, can help." ...

http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Copyfarleft

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25032406

#CopyFarLeft #copyleft #CreativeCommons #MichelBauwens #AlanToner #p2pFoundation #p2p

@wolftune well, #CopyFarLeft uses a cooperative vs. corporation distinction, rather than libre vs. proprietary. But I agree that the underlying logic of trying to exclude some parties from freely using free code kind of defeats the purpose, however well-intended (#CommonsClause, #FairSource etc). It's not a radical solution, in that it tries to bandage the symptom, rather than fix the problem at root (asymmetrical power/wealth relations between communities and corporations)

@maiadereva @Calimaq

what about a
CC-BY-SA-LL
LL = limited lucrativity
licence is granted free of all charge if the content is used and diffused in the context of personal, familial or non-profit associative, government, worker-owned cooperative or Social Economy organisation, with limited lucrativity status and goal recognized by local authorities and practice.
All other use is subject to prior authorisation and licence fee to be contracted with the authors.
#CC #coop #copyfarleft