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[AMOP]
@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

Right now I'm thinking that the real value of _The Art of the Metaobject Protocol_ is showing one way to do metaprogramming, and object-oriented programming is merely a demonstration domain.

Of course, what begat AMOP was a desire for an approach that can cover a large part of the OOP language design space, not just one point in that space, in order to be attractive to different schools of thought.

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

[AMOP]
@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

Right now I'm thinking that the real value of _The Art of the Metaobject Protocol_ is showing one way to do metaprogramming, and object-oriented programming is merely a demonstration domain.

Of course, what begat AMOP was a desire for an approach that can cover a large part of the OOP language design space, not just one point in that space, in order to be attractive to different schools of thought.

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

[AMOP]
@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

Right now I'm thinking that the real value of _The Art of the Metaobject Protocol_ is showing one way to do metaprogramming, and object-oriented programming is merely a demonstration domain.

Of course, what begat AMOP was a desire for an approach that can cover a large part of the OOP language design space, not just one point in that space, in order to be attractive to different schools of thought.

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

> no one else has been mentioning (so far as I've noticed) "The Art of the Metaobject Protocol"

Not in this thread.
Indeed, this book is a tour de force (et de magique).

> uncertain that the topic deserved such a deep analysis

The topic—maybe, maybe not, but the book is really about the metatopic, i.e. about metaprogramming, if I may abuse this prefix.
(I know this ought to be formulated more carefully.)

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

> no one else has been mentioning (so far as I've noticed) "The Art of the Metaobject Protocol"

Not in this thread.
Indeed, this book is a tour de force (et de magique).

> uncertain that the topic deserved such a deep analysis

The topic—maybe, maybe not, but the book is really about the metatopic, i.e. about metaprogramming, if I may abuse this prefix.
(I know this ought to be formulated more carefully.)

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

@dougmerritt @weekend_editor @sigue @abuseofnotation @screwlisp

> no one else has been mentioning (so far as I've noticed) "The Art of the Metaobject Protocol"

Not in this thread.
Indeed, this book is a tour de force (et de magique).

> uncertain that the topic deserved such a deep analysis

The topic—maybe, maybe not, but the book is really about the metatopic, i.e. about metaprogramming, if I may abuse this prefix.
(I know this ought to be formulated more carefully.)

#AMOP
#CLOS
#CommonLisp

@Seanleblanc

WRT #CommonLisp Object System (#CLOS):

The seminal book ›The Art of the Metaobject protocol‹ (1991, #AMOP) by #Kiczales, #Rivieres & #Bobrow demonstrates & discusses many design patterns for #ObjectSystem|s with #metaobject protocol, in which methods are not part of classes, due to #multimethod, #multipledispatch paradigms.

It also contributed much to #DylanLang.

🌺

🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp
🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt

🏷️ #Lisp #FamilyOfLisp #CLtL2 #CLHS #ELSConf #XEROXParc

@freakazoid

Regarding the publications of #HenryGBaker on #Lisp and related topics — have you had a look around here?

🧷 https://www.plover.com/~mjd/misc/hbaker-archive/home.html

🌺

🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp
🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt

🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #ELSConf #Clojure #DylanLang #CLHS #Lisp #FamilyOfLisp #Racket #AMOP #CLOS #CLtL2 #Clozure #SBCL #CLISP #Emacs #AutoLisp

40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:

🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4

🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP

40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:

🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4

🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP

40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:

🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4

🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP

40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:

🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4

🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP

40 days left to the submission deadline of #EuropeanLispSymposium (#ELSConf) in #Amsterdam:

🧷 (Friendica) https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 (Matrix) https://matrix.to/#/!gqlYAZsfzSnmFNEHAT:magdeburg.jetzt/$z7kGECRQluF1iZzNhW-0I1e3lUmg-pff8PcAh96gox4

🦎 (Telegram) https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Clojure #Racket #Emacs #ACL2 #AutoLisp # ISLisp #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #InterLisp #Medley #OpenGenera #Symbolics #ThinkingMachines #ConnectionMachine #MultiLisp #AMOP #CLOS #SICP #PAIP #AIMA #Lambda #CLtL2 #HTDP

The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):

🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp

🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt

The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.

🌺

🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP

The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):

🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp

🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt

The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.

🌺

🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP

The #Telegram and #Matrix groups named #FamilyOfLisp are now synchronized (bridged):

🦎 https://telegram.me/FamilyOfLisp

🦎 https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt

The two groups are for friendly exchange and dialogue on topics related to the Family of #Lisp #programming languages.

🌺

🏷️ #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #Clojure #DylanLang #ELSConf #AMOP #CLOS #InterLisp #OpenGenera #LispMachine #Medley #ConnectionMachine #Symbolics #AutoLisp #MacLisp #ZetaLisp #EuLisp #ISLisp #CLHS #SICP #AIMA #CLtL2 #PAIP #HTDP

@phoe

Note that the #PrettyPrinting dispatch tables of #CommonLisp conceptionally are a #GenericFunction with #ParametricDispatch.

The function SET-PPRINT-DISPATCH is essentially an ADD-METHOD to the pretty printing parametric dispatch.

(Unfortunatly, the canonical, #ProofOfConcept implementation of PP by #RichardWaters is one single convoluted mess; basically a negative example of software design, even by standards of its time.)

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CLOS #AMOP #MetaObject #MetaObjectSystem

On #Friendica and #Telegram:

›Call for Papers — 16th European #Lisp Symposium — #ELSConf —#Amsterdam — 2023-04-24/25‹

🔗 Friendica: https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

🦎 Telegram: https://t.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🌺

🏷️ #CommonLisp #Scheme #EmacsLisp #Clojure #Racket #ACL2 #AutoLisp #ISLISP #DylanLang #SKILL #Hy #Shen #Carp #Janet #Jank #uLisp #Picolisp #Gamelisp #TXR #FunctionalProgramming #AMOP #SICP #CLOS #PAIP #CLtL2 #AIMA #Emacs #VIM #LispWorks #AllegroCommonLisp #ACL #CLISP #SBCL #MetaObject #MetaObjectSystem

If you would like to come over to a friendly group on Telegram focused on the programming languages in the #FamilyOfLisp — please feel welcomed to join!

We are here:

→ https://t.me/FamilyOfLisp 🦎

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #Scheme #CommonLisp #Racket #InterLisp #Clojure #BaLindaLisp #Hy #ELSConf #ZetaLisp #LispMachine #ConnectionMachine #ThinkingMachines #Emacs #AutoLisp #CLOS #AMOP #SICP #CLtL2 #PAIP #AIMA #PCL #Symbolics #Genera #DylanLang #LFE #ISLisp #Arc #Janet #Jank #OnLisp #HTDP #CLHS #EuLisp

@sigue

Btw, maybe you would like to join this Lisp Telegram group:

→ https://t.me/FamilyOfLisp

🌺

🏷️ #DylanLang #CommonLisp #Lisp #Scheme #Racket #ELSConf #Clojure #AutoLisp #ISLisp #EuLisp #Emacs #EmacsLisp #AMOP #CLOS #PMD #MultiLisp #qLisp #StarLisp #ConnectionMachine #ConnectionMachineLisp #SExpr

@ahribellah

You'll find help and resources here:

→ https://t.me/FamilyOfLisp 🦎

🌺

🏷️ #Lisp #CommonLisp #Scheme #EuLisp #ISLisp #Racket #Clojure #ELSConf #AMOP #MOP #CLOS #FamilyOfLisp

16th #EuropeanLispSymposium
— #CallForPapers —

EDIT:

For easier reading and dissemination, the content of this toot was moved to the following place in the #Fediverse:

🔗 https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1763-a88a-e526-72b275177682

It is also available on Telegram:

🦎 https://t.me/FamilyOfLisp/309

🏷️ #MOP #CLOS #MetaObjectSystem #AMOP #DylanLang