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Edit: services restored.

My website and email are temporarily down. Hopefully back in a few hours. My site is snapshot by #TroveAU but the latest seems to be more than a year old. Something for me to think about. (Main impact on #S_T_Gill project.)

She is no side saddle for a lady

A #19thCentury put down? No, just 21st century predictive text. #TroveAU

I've noticed #TroveAU has been slow in saving text corrections since late last week.

I've noticed #TroveAU has recently cut over to using #StateLibraryNSW *new* catalogue. The new catalogue is great. (I transitioned my project.) #ozGLAM

I've noticed #TroveAU has recently cut over to using #StateLibraryNSW *new* catalogue. The new catalogue is great. (I transitioned my project.) #ozGLAM

I've noticed #TroveAU has recently cut over to using #StateLibraryNSW *new* catalogue. The new catalogue is great. (I transitioned my project.) #ozGLAM

I've noticed #TroveAU has recently cut over to using #StateLibraryNSW *new* catalogue. The new catalogue is great. (I transitioned my project.) #ozGLAM

I've noticed #TroveAU has recently cut over to using #StateLibraryNSW *new* catalogue. The new catalogue is great. (I transitioned my project.) #ozGLAM

I did say my #S_T_Gill project would "further rock the art history boat, not by intent, but because that's where the evidence takes us". So here's the extra rock ...

Big claims need big evidence. My new article adds to the pile, showing despite his claim to his London publisher, George French Angas likely didn't go to the Victorian diggings in 1852 at all.

Pivotal to this story is Charles Lord for whom Angas had great affection. A quick trip to Melbourne by the pair landed Angas in the middle of gold rush lithography.

NARRATIVE, ANALYSIS & CATALOGUE. (Not light reading. Analysis only made possible by digitised newspapers.) #historyAU #artHistoryAU #TroveAU #ozGLAM

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/George_French_Angas_Victorian_Diggings_1852.htm

I did say my #S_T_Gill project would "further rock the art history boat, not by intent, but because that's where the evidence takes us". So here's the extra rock ...

Big claims need big evidence. My new article adds to the pile, showing despite his claim to his London publisher, George French Angas likely didn't go to the Victorian diggings in 1852 at all.

Pivotal to this story is Charles Lord for whom Angas had great affection. A quick trip to Melbourne by the pair landed Angas in the middle of gold rush lithography.

NARRATIVE, ANALYSIS & CATALOGUE. (Not light reading. Analysis only made possible by digitised newspapers.) #historyAU #artHistoryAU #TroveAU #ozGLAM

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/George_French_Angas_Victorian_Diggings_1852.htm

I did say my #S_T_Gill project would "further rock the art history boat, not by intent, but because that's where the evidence takes us". So here's the extra rock ...

Big claims need big evidence. My new article adds to the pile, showing despite his claim to his London publisher, George French Angas likely didn't go to the Victorian diggings in 1852 at all.

Pivotal to this story is Charles Lord for whom Angas had great affection. A quick trip to Melbourne by the pair landed Angas in the middle of gold rush lithography.

NARRATIVE, ANALYSIS & CATALOGUE. (Not light reading. Analysis only made possible by digitised newspapers.) #historyAU #artHistoryAU #TroveAU #ozGLAM

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/George_French_Angas_Victorian_Diggings_1852.htm

I did say my #S_T_Gill project would "further rock the art history boat, not by intent, but because that's where the evidence takes us". So here's the extra rock ...

Big claims need big evidence. My new article adds to the pile, showing despite his claim to his London publisher, George French Angas likely didn't go to the Victorian diggings in 1852 at all.

Pivotal to this story is Charles Lord for whom Angas had great affection. A quick trip to Melbourne by the pair landed Angas in the middle of gold rush lithography.

NARRATIVE, ANALYSIS & CATALOGUE. (Not light reading. Analysis only made possible by digitised newspapers.) #historyAU #artHistoryAU #TroveAU #ozGLAM

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/George_French_Angas_Victorian_Diggings_1852.htm

I did say my #S_T_Gill project would "further rock the art history boat, not by intent, but because that's where the evidence takes us". So here's the extra rock ...

Big claims need big evidence. My new article adds to the pile, showing despite his claim to his London publisher, George French Angas likely didn't go to the Victorian diggings in 1852 at all.

Pivotal to this story is Charles Lord for whom Angas had great affection. A quick trip to Melbourne by the pair landed Angas in the middle of gold rush lithography.

NARRATIVE, ANALYSIS & CATALOGUE. (Not light reading. Analysis only made possible by digitised newspapers.) #historyAU #artHistoryAU #TroveAU #ozGLAM

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/George_French_Angas_Victorian_Diggings_1852.htm

Bryce Ross kept the artist's name secret. Who was it sketching the gold diggings and looking to publish in #Melbourne or elsewhere?

Ross was an institution on the Victorian diggings in 1852. He reported weekly for the Melbourne Herald and his "Mems from the Mount [Alexander]" were reprinted in colonial newspapers. His office was at what is now Chewton near #Castlemaine. Ross was one of thousands of #SouthAustralia'ns on the diggings.

And why can't we find the artist's original field sketches?

#historyAU #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill #Bendigo

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_at_the_Victorian_Diggings.htm

Bryce Ross kept the artist's name secret. Who was it sketching the gold diggings and looking to publish in #Melbourne or elsewhere?

Ross was an institution on the Victorian diggings in 1852. He reported weekly for the Melbourne Herald and his "Mems from the Mount [Alexander]" were reprinted in colonial newspapers. His office was at what is now Chewton near #Castlemaine. Ross was one of thousands of #SouthAustralia'ns on the diggings.

And why can't we find the artist's original field sketches?

#historyAU #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill #Bendigo

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_at_the_Victorian_Diggings.htm

Bryce Ross kept the artist's name secret. Who was it sketching the gold diggings and looking to publish in #Melbourne or elsewhere?

Ross was an institution on the Victorian diggings in 1852. He reported weekly for the Melbourne Herald and his "Mems from the Mount [Alexander]" were reprinted in colonial newspapers. His office was at what is now Chewton near #Castlemaine. Ross was one of thousands of #SouthAustralia'ns on the diggings.

And why can't we find the artist's original field sketches?

#historyAU #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill #Bendigo

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_at_the_Victorian_Diggings.htm

#Coffee and breakfast sorted!

6 miles from the Bush Inn on the road from #Melbourne to the diggings (1852): https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/s-t-gill-melbourne-to-the-diggings_800099?feature=Coffee%20Tent%206%20m%20from%20Bush%20Inn,%20Diggers%20Breakfast%20|%20SLV%20H7824#11/-37.557/144.654

#historicalMapping #uMap #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

#Coffee and breakfast sorted!

6 miles from the Bush Inn on the road from #Melbourne to the diggings (1852): https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/s-t-gill-melbourne-to-the-diggings_800099?feature=Coffee%20Tent%206%20m%20from%20Bush%20Inn,%20Diggers%20Breakfast%20|%20SLV%20H7824#11/-37.557/144.654

#historicalMapping #uMap #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

#Coffee and breakfast sorted!

6 miles from the Bush Inn on the road from #Melbourne to the diggings (1852): https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/s-t-gill-melbourne-to-the-diggings_800099?feature=Coffee%20Tent%206%20m%20from%20Bush%20Inn,%20Diggers%20Breakfast%20|%20SLV%20H7824#11/-37.557/144.654

#historicalMapping #uMap #TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

S. T. Gill is arguably Australia's most recognisable colonial artist. The story of Gill's 1852 passage from #SouthAustralia to the #Victoria goldfields has been a confused one. But it can now be teased out with help of digitised newspapers and a database approach. Who he went with adds to a sense of story.

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_to_Victoria_and_Diggings.htm

#TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

S. T. Gill is arguably Australia's most recognisable colonial artist. The story of Gill's 1852 passage from #SouthAustralia to the #Victoria goldfields has been a confused one. But it can now be teased out with help of digitised newspapers and a database approach. Who he went with adds to a sense of story.

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_to_Victoria_and_Diggings.htm

#TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

S. T. Gill is arguably Australia's most recognisable colonial artist. The story of Gill's 1852 passage from #SouthAustralia to the #Victoria goldfields has been a confused one. But it can now be teased out with help of digitised newspapers and a database approach. Who he went with adds to a sense of story.

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_to_Victoria_and_Diggings.htm

#TroveAU #1850s #S_T_Gill

S. T. Gill is arguably Australia's most recognisable colonial artist. The story of Gill's 1852 passage from #SouthAustralia to the #Victoria goldfields has been a confused one. But it can now be teased out with help of digitised newspapers and a database approach. Who he went with adds to a sense of story.

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_to_Victoria_and_Diggings.htm

#TroveAU #1850s

S. T. Gill is arguably Australia's most recognisable colonial artist. The story of Gill's 1852 passage from #SouthAustralia to the #Victoria goldfields has been a confused one. But it can now be teased out with help of digitised newspapers and a database approach. Who he went with adds to a sense of story.

My new article: https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/S_T_Gill_1852_to_Victoria_and_Diggings.htm

#TroveAU #1850s

Trouble again at #NationalLibraryAU / #TroveAU for display of NLA's images, although newspapers are fine.
HTTP504 Unable to load TileSource. AESST 13:30

EDIT: Working again at 14:30.

Trouble at #NationalLibraryAU / #TroveAU for display of NLA's images, although newspapers are fine.

EDIT 13:30 - back up again!

https://coombe.id.au/S_T_Gill/online_availability_check.htm

Australian National and State Libraries have been quitting / archiving Twitter/X recently. #ausGLAM

#StateLibraryNSW - 5 May
#TroveAU - 10 July
#NationalLibraryAU - 10 July
NSLA National & State Libraries Australasia - 30 July
VIC - last tweeted in February
WA - archive date not specified

QLD - still active
#StateLibrarySA - still active

For generations the family
had been la crime de la crime of society.

I left this #TroveAU OCR'd text uncorrected for others to enjoy.

UPDATE: this is working again now.

ORIGINAL: #NationalLibraryAU catalogue links aren't working (including onward links from #TroveAU). e.g. https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/461228 and click View Online - page not found. Haven't seen an NLA outage notice.

@wragge You make a fair point about permission. Would NLA consult with a State Library? What if a State Library gives blanket such approval? Doubt this has been thought through.

I read the Terms of Use this afternoon. There are some really odd things. Like updating data using API and “disrepute”. (I’m guessing these are copied and pasted from Trove ToU.)

And what’s that about image reuse appearing in a sort of preamble as an afterthought? #TroveAU

@wragge Now that they also make *ongoing* Trove Collaborative Services payments to #NationalLibraryAU how well does their business case still stack up?

At the start the Australian newspapers project made good sense.

Artworks not so ubiquitous with art galleries not broadly participating.

I used to think #TroveAU lists would be good integrators but non-persistent links and constant tinkering has left them weak.

@wragge @histodons This is #NationalLibraryAU petty mindedness scoring reputation management own goal. #TroveAU

#TroveAU survey offering a $50 gift card. However they already have a quota. I don’t think we’ll see the results. #Trove

@wragge “The NLA was contacted for comment.”

I imagine the advice to NLA, as after the launch of Trove 2020, will be to stay quiet and wait for the controversy to blow over.

#NationalLibraryAU #TroveAU

@macalba @wragge that’s a huge number of WA titles! From the “Fishwrap”. Fishy! Worth a look into.

One of the things that has puzzled me is why did #TroveAU suddenly react to Tim’s work? What had they seen that made them cancel his key without discussion? Perhaps newspapers[.]com is it?

Edit: To be clear, I’m definitely not thinking Tim had anything to do with this. Tim reports NLA’s shifting justification. So did NLA stuff up here when it was newspapers[.]com all along?

@secretgeek @wragge It does sound to me like cover (a shield) for wanting to teach Tim a lesson for some perceived slight. For doing stuff they can’t. For criticism of their spaghetti API. For posting about #TroveAU other than on Twitter. Or any number of petty grievances they may have. #Trove risk losing their greatest champion of all time. And they deserve that.

Sounds like #NationalLibraryAU planned a controlled burn and - now that it’s a bushfire coming back at them - they want to put it out. #TroveAU undertaking reputation management.

https://hcommons.social/@wragge/114068162650994733

NLA cancelling @wragge’s #Trove API key is mean and stupid. This is NLA’s “not invented here” chip on their shoulder.

Over many years I’ve been a big fan of Trove and then (maybe?) its regular critic. Not being part of the Trove-GLAM industry meant I had more freedom to criticise. Not because I enjoy criticising but because after Tim left it cared more about its reputation than about its users. Spin won out over diligence. Quantity over quality.

I wrote about #FundTrove presented as grassroots but really being a masked industry campaign. Recently I mentioned Trove budget’s double-dipping.

But people can’t keep “loving” Trove that takes them for granted. They can’t care forever.

See also #TroveAU #NationalLibraryAU and elsewhere and elsewhen at @coombeidau

Finally releasing this research into the wild. Years ago I was deep into horse racing results from 1839 to 1845 using #TroveAU and it paid off. No back to the future wins 👀 but recovering forgotten historical context for a watercolour of the Adelaide Races by John Michael Skipper.

I identify this picture as a race for "gentlemen riders" on New Year's Day 1839 featuring a uniformed Captain Charles Berkeley. (This is a side outcome of the #S_T_Gill project.)

#Adelaide #historyAU #colonialArtAU #sportsHistory #horseRacing
New Article: https://coombe.id.au/1840s_South_Australia/New_Year_Races_by_Skipper.htm

Finally releasing this research into the wild. Years ago I was deep into horse racing results from 1839 to 1845 using #TroveAU and it paid off. No back to the future wins 👀 but recovering forgotten historical context for a watercolour of the Adelaide Races by John Michael Skipper.

I identify this picture as a race for "gentlemen riders" on New Year's Day 1839 featuring a uniformed Captain Charles Berkeley. (This is a side outcome of the #S_T_Gill project.)

#Adelaide #historyAU #colonialArtAU #sportsHistory #horseRacing
New Article: https://coombe.id.au/1840s_South_Australia/New_Year_Races_by_Skipper.htm

Finally releasing this research into the wild. Years ago I was deep into horse racing results from 1839 to 1845 using #TroveAU and it paid off. No back to the future wins 👀 but recovering forgotten historical context for a watercolour of the Adelaide Races by John Michael Skipper.

I identify this picture as a race for "gentlemen riders" on New Year's Day 1839 featuring a uniformed Captain Charles Berkeley. (This is a side outcome of the #S_T_Gill project.)

#Adelaide #historyAU #colonialArtAU #sportsHistory #horseRacing
New Article: https://coombe.id.au/1840s_South_Australia/New_Year_Races_by_Skipper.htm

Finally releasing this research into the wild. Years ago I was deep into horse racing results from 1839 to 1845 using #TroveAU and it paid off. No back to the future wins 👀 but recovering forgotten historical context for a watercolour of the Adelaide Races by John Michael Skipper.

I identify this picture as a race for "gentlemen riders" on New Year's Day 1839 featuring a uniformed Captain Charles Berkeley. (This is a side outcome of the #S_T_Gill project.)

#Adelaide #historyAU #colonialArtAU #sportsHistory #horseRacing
New Article: https://coombe.id.au/1840s_South_Australia/New_Year_Races_by_Skipper.htm

I think this is the first time I've noticed that "Family Notices" are not "Articles" in #TroveAU search any more (Article category). I need to change my search methods.

FN's, Detailed Lists, etc used to be subsets of Articles. Now they appear to be distinct sets. (I know you can manually add a Category to an Article.)

2/5. With the article reporting von Sommer arriving South Australia in September 1845, I was puzzled I couldn't recall the name. So I spent some time in #TroveAU. So ... genius or charlatan? My overwhelming impression is it's the latter. Ludewig's article brings to light this "colourful" character, but I don't think it gives sufficient weight to the contemporary poor opinion of von Sommer ... /3

@wragge How frustrating! One wonders if Trove even has in-house ability to update its own API? But this is SNAFU at NLA and has been for some years. (I know this is not news to you of course.) I think millions in funding doesn’t fix Trove in the absence of cultural change at NLA. NLA needs to stop seeing Trove as their love machine and start seeing themselves as a diligent service provider to the Australian public.

P.S. The latest annual report shows NLA double dipped by taking extra Commonwealth funding while hanging onto Trove Collaborative Services income. #fundTrove #TroveAU #NationalLibraryAU

Historical Adelaide Maps

I'm setting free my #TroveAU lists of historical #Adelaide maps by changing them from private to public view. Originally for my research, I now make them publicly available for what they're worth. (This material found more mature realisation in interactive maps and related map articles on my website.) #historicalMapping

Adelaide City, District and County Maps, 1837 to 1851+ https://trove.nla.gov.au/list/130558

1842 Kingston Map of Adelaide, CWC prints and James Allen's "South Australian News-Letter" https://trove.nla.gov.au/list/125895

This coming #TroveAU change will impact on collaborative lists. The decision by a list owner to approve a collaborator would have to be based solely on username or on external communication such as FB. Will the list's FB page also go? (I have public lists but none are collaborative.)

It looks like #Trove is getting out of user collaboration. The public forum went years ago. It's understandable. Part of the shifting role of Trove. Your thoughts? #familyHistory #familyHistoryMonth

https://trove.nla.gov.au/help/become-voluntrove/lists/collaborative-lists#manage-a-request-to-join-a-collaborative-list

#TroveAU soon to remove all identifying information from account profiles. All that's left is your user name.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/announcement/2024/08/07/updates-trove-account-profiles-12-august-2024

@wragge Taking @wragge 's #Trove newspaper issues by state and year (CSV), I further looked into the impact of the 1852 Victorian #goldRush on newspapers. (It was hard to get staff with so many at the diggings.) From this data there is a big impact on #SouthAustralia and #Victoria itself and a smaller impact on #Tasmania.

#historyAU #TroveAU #newspaperHistory #1850s