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#Reading new book by #TysonYunkaporta called #RightStoryWrongStory
it is VERY readable and has the same casual conversational tone as #SandTalk
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i have been thinking recently - it’s nothing to fear, this isn’t the first time- about all of the bizarre assumptions of western culture that might not necessarily have been invented by monotheism, but nonetheless came to us *via* monotheism -

e.g. time is linear (cos in genesis there is first nothing, then god creates it all, then stuff happens, and prophecy tells us what will happen in the future.
because time is linear in the west we think of mistakes as past and unfixable (or at the very least that is what spin doctors try to tell us) and god is in charge of the future (anyone but us)

the idea that “might is right” cos everything was created by some power bigger than mere humans, and from the very beginning he demanded we follow his rules or else…

LAND OWNERSHIP - we once had every thing we needed (“and it was good”) but ‘the shot hot the fan’ when adam and eve were evicted for breaking the rules of their tenancy … now displacement is natural, and the fault of
the unhoused/ homeless/ refugee (today’s figures 35 million refugees, 62.5 million internally displaced people, 5.4 million asylum seekers)

(then from 1400s AD, enclosures turfed people out of communities and into cities - leading to industrial revolution and *massive* inequities etc)

god gave man dominion over all the living things (compare with Indigenous belief everything on earth is kin) but in genesis
the idea of a pecking order/ hierarchy is god-given

right from the get go the bible starts with some truly dreadful assumptions - rules that are not biological imperatives so much as human choices. and these choices are killing the planet.

but “land”? man, the idea of land title is killing us all. we are coerced by the resulting “system” into living unnatural and largely pointless lives.

what makes me think the world OWES me a living? actually, the world gave me a living and i don’t know what “right” anyone has to take it from me, or destroy it all.
(i do see the reality we must live with, but all the “moral judgement” when we don’t/ can’t make it work is a bit rich.)
———
anyway, saw his comment about land as leverage in Tyson’s new book and got excited…

#Reading new book by #TysonYunkaporta called #RightStoryWrongStory
it is VERY readable and has the same casual conversational tone as #SandTalk
—-
i have been thinking recently - it’s nothing to fear, this isn’t the first time- about all of the bizarre assumptions of western culture that might not necessarily have been invented by monotheism, but nonetheless came to us *via* monotheism -

e.g. time is linear (cos in genesis there is first nothing, then god creates it all, then stuff happens, and prophecy tells us what will happen in the future.
because time is linear in the west we think of mistakes as past and unfixable (or at the very least that is what spin doctors try to tell us) and god is in charge of the future (anyone but us)

the idea that “might is right” cos everything was created by some power bigger than mere humans, and from the very beginning he demanded we follow his rules or else…

LAND OWNERSHIP - we once had every thing we needed (“and it was good”) but ‘the shot hot the fan’ when adam and eve were evicted for breaking the rules of their tenancy … now displacement is natural, and the fault of
the unhoused/ homeless/ refugee (today’s figures 35 million refugees, 62.5 million internally displaced people, 5.4 million asylum seekers)

(then from 1400s AD, enclosures turfed people out of communities and into cities - leading to industrial revolution and *massive* inequities etc)

god gave man dominion over all the living things (compare with Indigenous belief everything on earth is kin) but in genesis
the idea of a pecking order/ hierarchy is god-given

right from the get go the bible starts with some truly dreadful assumptions - rules that are not biological imperatives so much as human choices. and these choices are killing the planet.

but “land”? man, the idea of land title is killing us all. we are coerced by the resulting “system” into living unnatural and largely pointless lives.

what makes me think the world OWES me a living? actually, the world gave me a living and i don’t know what “right” anyone has to take it from me, or destroy it all.
(i do see the reality we must live with, but all the “moral judgement” when we don’t/ can’t make it work is a bit rich.)
———
anyway, saw his comment about land as leverage in Tyson’s new book and got excited…

#Reading new book by #TysonYunkaporta called #RightStoryWrongStory
it is VERY readable and has the same casual conversational tone as #SandTalk
—-
i have been thinking recently - it’s nothing to fear, this isn’t the first time- about all of the bizarre assumptions of western culture that might not necessarily have been invented by monotheism, but nonetheless came to us *via* monotheism -

e.g. time is linear (cos in genesis there is first nothing, then god creates it all, then stuff happens, and prophecy tells us what will happen in the future.
because time is linear in the west we think of mistakes as past and unfixable (or at the very least that is what spin doctors try to tell us) and god is in charge of the future (anyone but us)

the idea that “might is right” cos everything was created by some power bigger than mere humans, and from the very beginning he demanded we follow his rules or else…

LAND OWNERSHIP - we once had every thing we needed (“and it was good”) but ‘the shot hot the fan’ when adam and eve were evicted for breaking the rules of their tenancy … now displacement is natural, and the fault of
the unhoused/ homeless/ refugee (today’s figures 35 million refugees, 62.5 million internally displaced people, 5.4 million asylum seekers)

(then from 1400s AD, enclosures turfed people out of communities and into cities - leading to industrial revolution and *massive* inequities etc)

god gave man dominion over all the living things (compare with Indigenous belief everything on earth is kin) but in genesis
the idea of a pecking order/ hierarchy is god-given

right from the get go the bible starts with some truly dreadful assumptions - rules that are not biological imperatives so much as human choices. and these choices are killing the planet.

but “land”? man, the idea of land title is killing us all. we are coerced by the resulting “system” into living unnatural and largely pointless lives.

what makes me think the world OWES me a living? actually, the world gave me a living and i don’t know what “right” anyone has to take it from me, or destroy it all.
(i do see the reality we must live with, but all the “moral judgement” when we don’t/ can’t make it work is a bit rich.)
———
anyway, saw his comment about land as leverage in Tyson’s new book and got excited…

#Reading new book by #TysonYunkaporta called #RightStoryWrongStory
it is VERY readable and has the same casual conversational tone as #SandTalk
—-
i have been thinking recently - it’s nothing to fear, this isn’t the first time- about all of the bizarre assumptions of western culture that might not necessarily have been invented by monotheism, but nonetheless came to us *via* monotheism -

e.g. time is linear (cos in genesis there is first nothing, then god creates it all, then stuff happens, and prophecy tells us what will happen in the future.
because time is linear in the west we think of mistakes as past and unfixable (or at the very least that is what spin doctors try to tell us) and god is in charge of the future (anyone but us)

the idea that “might is right” cos everything was created by some power bigger than mere humans, and from the very beginning he demanded we follow his rules or else…

LAND OWNERSHIP - we once had every thing we needed (“and it was good”) but ‘the shot hot the fan’ when adam and eve were evicted for breaking the rules of their tenancy … now displacement is natural, and the fault of
the unhoused/ homeless/ refugee (today’s figures 35 million refugees, 62.5 million internally displaced people, 5.4 million asylum seekers)

(then from 1400s AD, enclosures turfed people out of communities and into cities - leading to industrial revolution and *massive* inequities etc)

god gave man dominion over all the living things (compare with Indigenous belief everything on earth is kin) but in genesis
the idea of a pecking order/ hierarchy is god-given

right from the get go the bible starts with some truly dreadful assumptions - rules that are not biological imperatives so much as human choices. and these choices are killing the planet.

but “land”? man, the idea of land title is killing us all. we are coerced by the resulting “system” into living unnatural and largely pointless lives.

what makes me think the world OWES me a living? actually, the world gave me a living and i don’t know what “right” anyone has to take it from me, or destroy it all.
(i do see the reality we must live with, but all the “moral judgement” when we don’t/ can’t make it work is a bit rich.)
———
anyway, saw his comment about land as leverage in Tyson’s new book and got excited…

#Reading new book by #TysonYunkaporta called #RightStoryWrongStory
it is VERY readable and has the same casual conversational tone as #SandTalk
—-
i have been thinking recently - it’s nothing to fear, this isn’t the first time- about all of the bizarre assumptions of western culture that might not necessarily have been invented by monotheism, but nonetheless came to us *via* monotheism -

e.g. time is linear (cos in genesis there is first nothing, then god creates it all, then stuff happens, and prophecy tells us what will happen in the future.
because time is linear in the west we think of mistakes as past and unfixable (or at the very least that is what spin doctors try to tell us) and god is in charge of the future (anyone but us)

the idea that “might is right” cos everything was created by some power bigger than mere humans, and from the very beginning he demanded we follow his rules or else…

LAND OWNERSHIP - we once had every thing we needed (“and it was good”) but ‘the shot hot the fan’ when adam and eve were evicted for breaking the rules of their tenancy … now displacement is natural, and the fault of
the unhoused/ homeless/ refugee (today’s figures 35 million refugees, 62.5 million internally displaced people, 5.4 million asylum seekers)

(then from 1400s AD, enclosures turfed people out of communities and into cities - leading to industrial revolution and *massive* inequities etc)

god gave man dominion over all the living things (compare with Indigenous belief everything on earth is kin) but in genesis
the idea of a pecking order/ hierarchy is god-given

right from the get go the bible starts with some truly dreadful assumptions - rules that are not biological imperatives so much as human choices. and these choices are killing the planet.

but “land”? man, the idea of land title is killing us all. we are coerced by the resulting “system” into living unnatural and largely pointless lives.

what makes me think the world OWES me a living? actually, the world gave me a living and i don’t know what “right” anyone has to take it from me, or destroy it all.
(i do see the reality we must live with, but all the “moral judgement” when we don’t/ can’t make it work is a bit rich.)
———
anyway, saw his comment about land as leverage in Tyson’s new book and got excited…

juon taas kahvia ja luen. Tyson Yunkaporta: #SandTalk.

jos nykyisen valtakulttuurin toimintaa vertaa teineihin niin yhtäläisyydet on aika ilmeisiä: fyysistä voimaa on (vrt teknologia kuten fossiilienegia, aseet) mutta kypsyyttä hallita sitä ei ole, vaan asioita hajotetaan. moni ihailee ja seuraa koulukiusaajia tai muita toksisia tyyppejä, tai vähintään pelkää.

eikä aikuisia ole. jumala on kuollut, eikä se valtiollisen kristinuskon patriarkaattinen jumala kovin hyvä ollutkaan. #Ilmastokriisi

@_L1vY_ @melanie

#SandTalk fan here - the more i read about Indigenous perspectives the more i feel hope for the world.
human nature is not what western culture would have us believe

https://theconversationfactory.com/podcast/sand-talk-how-indigenous-thinking-can-save-the-world-tyson-yunkaporta

I'm thinking about what Tyson Yunkaporta said in #SandTalk, that knowledge is about relationships and processes, not content. This is difficult to do, and I'm not quite sure how to go about this. But I don't want to just learn what things are, I want to know them, to be related to them.

#process #relationality #SystemsThinking

"In my community there is a phrase that is repeated daily: “Nobody boss for me!” Yet at the same time, each person is bound within complex patterns of relatedness and communal obligation. Indigenous models of governance are based on respect for social, ecological, and knowledge systems and all their components or members."

-- Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta.

#Quote #bookstodon #SandTalk #Governance #Community #Anarchy

Tyson Yunkaporta is one of my absolute heroes. Well worth listening to. I don't know how to hashtag it - it's so big.
#sandtalk #Yunkaporta #indigenous #ecology https://anchor.fm/tyson-yunkaporta/episodes/Eco-Warrior-e1rj0rs

"What are the common threads at the heart of Indigenous thinking across cultures?

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Tyson Yunkaporta, an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne.

Dr. Yunkaporta is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save The World."

#indigenous #yunkaporta #sandtalk
https://greendreamer.com/podcast/dr-tyson-yunkaporta-sand-talk