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Hey #RetroComputing folks! I'm running #LAP6 on @larsbrinkhoff's #LINC emulator! #VintageComputing #PDP12

Hey #RetroComputing folks! I'm running #LAP6 on @larsbrinkhoff's #LINC emulator! #VintageComputing #PDP12

Hey #RetroComputing folks! I'm running #LAP6 on @larsbrinkhoff's #LINC emulator! #VintageComputing #PDP12

Hey #RetroComputing folks! I'm running #LAP6 on @larsbrinkhoff's #LINC emulator! #VintageComputing #PDP12

Hey #RetroComputing folks! I'm running #LAP6 on @larsbrinkhoff's #LINC emulator! #VintageComputing #PDP12

Are there folks who would be interested in watching livestreams of me or my students working on / messing with the PDP-12? I'm thinking, like, live terminal / desktop view plus maybe a camera on the machine console / blinkenlights and / or the CRT? #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #pdp #pdp12

Are there folks who would be interested in watching livestreams of me or my students working on / messing with the PDP-12? I'm thinking, like, live terminal / desktop view plus maybe a camera on the machine console / blinkenlights and / or the CRT? #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #pdp #pdp12

Are there folks who would be interested in watching livestreams of me or my students working on / messing with the PDP-12? I'm thinking, like, live terminal / desktop view plus maybe a camera on the machine console / blinkenlights and / or the CRT? #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #pdp #pdp12

Are there folks who would be interested in watching livestreams of me or my students working on / messing with the PDP-12? I'm thinking, like, live terminal / desktop view plus maybe a camera on the machine console / blinkenlights and / or the CRT? #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #pdp #pdp12

Are there folks who would be interested in watching livestreams of me or my students working on / messing with the PDP-12? I'm thinking, like, live terminal / desktop view plus maybe a camera on the machine console / blinkenlights and / or the CRT? #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #pdp #pdp12

My student, Zach, got the famous Whetstone floating-point benchmark running in FORTRAN IV on our PDP-12 (results had never been recorded for a '12 without an FPP). He also implemented the Dhrystone integer benchmark in PDP-8 assembly, which (as far as we know) has never been done before. You can read more about it here, and if you have a PDP-8 compatible machine (with or without EAE), you should be able to run his code to benchmark your system! Way to go, Zach! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-8-and-pdp-12-and-dhrystone-and-whetstone.1253367/ #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #umdpdp12 #pdp8

My student, Zach, got the famous Whetstone floating-point benchmark running in FORTRAN IV on our PDP-12 (results had never been recorded for a '12 without an FPP). He also implemented the Dhrystone integer benchmark in PDP-8 assembly, which (as far as we know) has never been done before. You can read more about it here, and if you have a PDP-8 compatible machine (with or without EAE), you should be able to run his code to benchmark your system! Way to go, Zach! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-8-and-pdp-12-and-dhrystone-and-whetstone.1253367/ #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #umdpdp12 #pdp8

My student, Zach, got the famous Whetstone floating-point benchmark running in FORTRAN IV on our PDP-12 (results had never been recorded for a '12 without an FPP). He also implemented the Dhrystone integer benchmark in PDP-8 assembly, which (as far as we know) has never been done before. You can read more about it here, and if you have a PDP-8 compatible machine (with or without EAE), you should be able to run his code to benchmark your system! Way to go, Zach! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-8-and-pdp-12-and-dhrystone-and-whetstone.1253367/ #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #umdpdp12 #pdp8

My student, Zach, got the famous Whetstone floating-point benchmark running in FORTRAN IV on our PDP-12 (results had never been recorded for a '12 without an FPP). He also implemented the Dhrystone integer benchmark in PDP-8 assembly, which (as far as we know) has never been done before. You can read more about it here, and if you have a PDP-8 compatible machine (with or without EAE), you should be able to run his code to benchmark your system! Way to go, Zach! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-8-and-pdp-12-and-dhrystone-and-whetstone.1253367/ #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #umdpdp12 #pdp8

My student, Zach, got the famous Whetstone floating-point benchmark running in FORTRAN IV on our PDP-12 (results had never been recorded for a '12 without an FPP). He also implemented the Dhrystone integer benchmark in PDP-8 assembly, which (as far as we know) has never been done before. You can read more about it here, and if you have a PDP-8 compatible machine (with or without EAE), you should be able to run his code to benchmark your system! Way to go, Zach! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-8-and-pdp-12-and-dhrystone-and-whetstone.1253367/ #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #umdpdp12 #pdp8

My student, Zach, has been working to debug why our bottom tape unit has been misbehaving. We are fairly certain that the issue is a short in the interface cable between the top and bottom units, because the problem appears on whatever unit is on the end of the daisy chain. Stay tuned. But in the process of monkeying with it, there was a period of time where they both worked just fine! #dec #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

My student, Zach, has been working to debug why our bottom tape unit has been misbehaving. We are fairly certain that the issue is a short in the interface cable between the top and bottom units, because the problem appears on whatever unit is on the end of the daisy chain. Stay tuned. But in the process of monkeying with it, there was a period of time where they both worked just fine! #dec #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

My student, Zach, has been working to debug why our bottom tape unit has been misbehaving. We are fairly certain that the issue is a short in the interface cable between the top and bottom units, because the problem appears on whatever unit is on the end of the daisy chain. Stay tuned. But in the process of monkeying with it, there was a period of time where they both worked just fine! #dec #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

My student, Zach, has been working to debug why our bottom tape unit has been misbehaving. We are fairly certain that the issue is a short in the interface cable between the top and bottom units, because the problem appears on whatever unit is on the end of the daisy chain. Stay tuned. But in the process of monkeying with it, there was a period of time where they both worked just fine! #dec #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

My student, Zach, has been working to debug why our bottom tape unit has been misbehaving. We are fairly certain that the issue is a short in the interface cable between the top and bottom units, because the problem appears on whatever unit is on the end of the daisy chain. Stay tuned. But in the process of monkeying with it, there was a period of time where they both worked just fine! #dec #pdp12 #pdp #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

Hi all, we did our annual PDP-12 demo in Dr. Ted Pedersen's architecture class on Tuesday, and it went really well.

In cleaning up / reorganizing after showing off our artifacts, I realized that we have something that I haven't seen on @bitsavers, but I maybe just didn't know where to look. It's a big poster of PDP-12 instructions -- it's kind of like the pocket reference in poster format. It is about 9.5x30 inches (24x76 cm). I scanned it in two pieces on the office machine and stitched it together with GIMP. I'll try to make a PDF version with OCR text. @bitsavers #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp12 #pdp #dec #umdpdp12

Hi all, we did our annual PDP-12 demo in Dr. Ted Pedersen's architecture class on Tuesday, and it went really well.

In cleaning up / reorganizing after showing off our artifacts, I realized that we have something that I haven't seen on @bitsavers, but I maybe just didn't know where to look. It's a big poster of PDP-12 instructions -- it's kind of like the pocket reference in poster format. It is about 9.5x30 inches (24x76 cm). I scanned it in two pieces on the office machine and stitched it together with GIMP. I'll try to make a PDF version with OCR text. @bitsavers #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp12 #pdp #dec #umdpdp12

Today was PDP-12 demo day! #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp #pdp12 #umdpdp12

Today was PDP-12 demo day! #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp #pdp12 #umdpdp12

A TU-55 LINCtape drive from a PDP-12 in action. #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp #pdp12 #umdpdp12

A TU-55 LINCtape drive from a PDP-12 in action. #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #pdp #pdp12 #umdpdp12

Jason did the edit, so I wasn't sure how much would go into this, but it seems that all my rambling about #pdp8 and #pdp12 hacking stayed in, and there's a link to the video I did for @tastytronic last year in the show notes. Also my #awk implementation of the Cloak of Darkness game.

Loads of #RetroComputing and #VintageComputing chatter throughout: Scott even called on folks to start targeting the 16kB-RAM platforms of the 1970s again!

Jason did the edit, so I wasn't sure how much would go into this, but it seems that all my rambling about #pdp8 and #pdp12 hacking stayed in, and there's a link to the video I did for @tastytronic last year in the show notes. Also my #awk implementation of the Cloak of Darkness game.

Loads of #RetroComputing and #VintageComputing chatter throughout: Scott even called on folks to start targeting the 16kB-RAM platforms of the 1970s again!

Our PDP-12 (#435) is able to read tapes (but not yet write them). This OS/8 tape is close to 50 years old and still reads well. Here we use the TYPE command to print a long listing stored on multiple tape blocks. LINC and DECtape was able to be used as random access storage (like a disk). The block numbers were written forwards and backwards on the tape so that they could be read regardless of the motor's direction!

In this video, we have a tape mounted on the top drive and have already booted. Zach requests to print the file to the (virtual) teletype, and the blocks of the file are read in sequence.

https://youtu.be/X_GP_L6hK6U

#umdpdp12 #dec #pdp #pdp12 #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing

Our PDP-12 (#435) is able to read tapes (but not yet write them). This OS/8 tape is close to 50 years old and still reads well. Here we use the TYPE command to print a long listing stored on multiple tape blocks. LINC and DECtape was able to be used as random access storage (like a disk). The block numbers were written forwards and backwards on the tape so that they could be read regardless of the motor's direction!

In this video, we have a tape mounted on the top drive and have already booted. Zach requests to print the file to the (virtual) teletype, and the blocks of the file are read in sequence.

https://youtu.be/X_GP_L6hK6U

#umdpdp12 #dec #pdp #pdp12 #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing

Today, Zach and I got Vince Slyngstad's PDP MM8/I memory expansion installed in our PDP-12! No magic smoke got out, the computer booted, and appears (from console and diagnostic checks) to have 32kW of memory! The PDP-12 only had room for 8 kW inside, but could connect to an external box that would include up to 24kW of additional core. Vince's expansion plugs into the five flip chip slots that would normally lead to the external unit. All memory hardware is on those five cards, with a six card providing an electrical connection. More soon! #umdpdp12 #pdp12 #pdp #dec #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

Today, Zach and I got Vince Slyngstad's PDP MM8/I memory expansion installed in our PDP-12! No magic smoke got out, the computer booted, and appears (from console and diagnostic checks) to have 32kW of memory! The PDP-12 only had room for 8 kW inside, but could connect to an external box that would include up to 24kW of additional core. Vince's expansion plugs into the five flip chip slots that would normally lead to the external unit. All memory hardware is on those five cards, with a six card providing an electrical connection. More soon! #umdpdp12 #pdp12 #pdp #dec #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

We got the #PDP12 working again! #RetroComputing #RCSRI

We got the #PDP12 working again! #RetroComputing #RCSRI

A video from the same session: #umdpdp12 #pdp #pdp12 #dec #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

A video from the same session: #umdpdp12 #pdp #pdp12 #dec #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

PDP-12 #435 playing Spacewar! for the first time in over two years thanks to some debugging by us and our much more experienced friends on the VCF forums.

First, we noticed that minicom was inserting CRs in front of LFs when sending paper tapes, so we switched to a different paper tape sender, and second, someone pointed out that it looked like our 2nd 4K core was not inserted correctly (two cables were backwards). Fortunately, the magic smoke didn't get out.

The machine booted up like a champ, and April and Zach got their first chance to play the original deathmatch game. 💚

#umdpdp12 #pdp12 #pdp #dec #VintageComputing #RetroComputing

PDP-12 #435 playing Spacewar! for the first time in over two years thanks to some debugging by us and our much more experienced friends on the VCF forums.

First, we noticed that minicom was inserting CRs in front of LFs when sending paper tapes, so we switched to a different paper tape sender, and second, someone pointed out that it looked like our 2nd 4K core was not inserted correctly (two cables were backwards). Fortunately, the magic smoke didn't get out.

The machine booted up like a champ, and April and Zach got their first chance to play the original deathmatch game. 💚

#umdpdp12 #pdp12 #pdp #dec #VintageComputing #RetroComputing

Well, our eagle-eyed and experienced friends on the VCF forums noticed something that seemed a little weird about our PDP-12... the W025 cards for Field 1 were not crossed, but were parallel like the ones for Field 0. (Seems logical, right?)

Looking at old photos showed that Field 1 used to be crossed, just like some other PDP-12s we know about.

Zach and I swapped the cards back today and...

https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-12-435-at-the-university-of-minnesota-duluth.1241469/page-11#post-1388895

#umdpdp12 #pdp12 #dec #pdp #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

Well, our eagle-eyed and experienced friends on the VCF forums noticed something that seemed a little weird about our PDP-12... the W025 cards for Field 1 were not crossed, but were parallel like the ones for Field 0. (Seems logical, right?)

Looking at old photos showed that Field 1 used to be crossed, just like some other PDP-12s we know about.

Zach and I swapped the cards back today and...

https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-12-435-at-the-university-of-minnesota-duluth.1241469/page-11#post-1388895

#umdpdp12 #pdp12 #dec #pdp #RetroComputing #VintageComputing

We scoped the '12, got some useful information, and did not let any magic smoke out! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-12-435-at-the-university-of-minnesota-duluth.1241469/post-1388752 #umdpdp12 #pdp #pdp12 #dec #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing

We scoped the '12, got some useful information, and did not let any magic smoke out! https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/pdp-12-435-at-the-university-of-minnesota-duluth.1241469/post-1388752 #umdpdp12 #pdp #pdp12 #dec #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing

@davefischer @selzero Oh yes, I am extremely into this particular document! #PDP12 @tastytronic

@davefischer @selzero Oh yes, I am extremely into this particular document! #PDP12 @tastytronic

PDP-12 demo went great! #pdp12 #pdp #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #umdpdp12

PDP-12 demo went great! #pdp12 #pdp #vintagecomputing #retrocomputing #umdpdp12

Giving a presentation on the PDP-12 tomorrow, so Kyle and I did a little comparison of the PDP-12 and the Google Pixel 8 Pro:

- Of course, the PDP-12 is 12-bit (0-4096) while the Pixel 8 Pro is 64-bit (0-1.84x10^19)

- PDP-12 instructions vary, but are commonly 1.6usec each. The Pixel 8 Pro has 9 cores of varying speeds, but we estimate that it is around 1,300-11,000 times faster depending on how you calculate it

- The Pixel 8 Pro has a *million times* more RAM than the PDP-12 (8GB vs. 8KB)

- If crushed into a powder, approximately 7,000 Pixel 8 Pros could fit into the space occupied by the PDP-12 (a Pixel 8 Pro occupies approximately 1/7000th the volume of the PDP-12)

- A Pixel 8 Pro costs about $1,000, while our PDP-12 would have cost approximately $400,900 in 2024 dollars (it was $54k in 1972)! (Conversely, a Pixel 8 Pro would have cost about $135 in 1972 dollars!) In other words, the Pixel 8 Pro is 400 times cheaper than the PDP-12.

- Millions of Pixel phones have been sold, to say nothing of all Android phones -- while only about ~725 PDP-12s were sold. The PDP-8, a *wildly successful* minicomputer sold only about 50k units.

#pdp12 #pdp #dec #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

Giving a presentation on the PDP-12 tomorrow, so Kyle and I did a little comparison of the PDP-12 and the Google Pixel 8 Pro:

- Of course, the PDP-12 is 12-bit (0-4096) while the Pixel 8 Pro is 64-bit (0-1.84x10^19)

- PDP-12 instructions vary, but are commonly 1.6usec each. The Pixel 8 Pro has 9 cores of varying speeds, but we estimate that it is around 1,300-11,000 times faster depending on how you calculate it

- The Pixel 8 Pro has a *million times* more RAM than the PDP-12 (8GB vs. 8KB)

- If crushed into a powder, approximately 7,000 Pixel 8 Pros could fit into the space occupied by the PDP-12 (a Pixel 8 Pro occupies approximately 1/7000th the volume of the PDP-12)

- A Pixel 8 Pro costs about $1,000, while our PDP-12 would have cost approximately $400,900 in 2024 dollars (it was $54k in 1972)! (Conversely, a Pixel 8 Pro would have cost about $135 in 1972 dollars!) In other words, the Pixel 8 Pro is 400 times cheaper than the PDP-12.

- Millions of Pixel phones have been sold, to say nothing of all Android phones -- while only about ~725 PDP-12s were sold. The PDP-8, a *wildly successful* minicomputer sold only about 50k units.

#pdp12 #pdp #dec #retrocomputing #vintagecomputing #umdpdp12

@tastytronic I'm ready for debugging again!

#pdp12

@tastytronic I'm ready for debugging again!

#pdp12