#p2pf — Public Fediverse posts

Take back the App! A dialogue on Platform Cooperativism, Free Software and DisCOs https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/take-back-the-app-a-dialogue-on-platform-cooperativism-free-software-and-discos/2020/04/24 #DisCO #PlatformCooperativism #DAO #Blockchain #P2PF #Commons

«Patterns for Decentralised Governance and why Blockchain Doesn’t Decentralise Power… Unless You Design It To»
https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/patterns-for-decentralised-governance-and-why-blockchain-doesnt-decentralise-power-unless-you-design-it-to/2017/09/22 #p2pf

I finally finished porting my page on Slack replacements to the P2PF wiki and updating it for 2020 remote workers desperate to liberate themselves:
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Slack_Alternatives

#Slack #P2PF

Do we really need to sacrifice #privacy for health in the fight against #covid19? https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-contact-tracing-apps-can-foil-both-covid-19-and-big-brother/2020/04/28 from #P2PF

I just updated the #P2PF page I started (originally on the #Disintermedia wiki) about online decision-making software:
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Online_Decision_Platforms

Corrections/ additions/ comments welcome.

This list of community-hosted #CodeForge instances, which I've been curating on the #P2PF wiki, now has more than 50 entries. Additions and corrections welcome:
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/List_of_Community-Hosted_Code_Forge_Instances

I've been curating a list of independent code forges that might be interested in becoming part of a federated code forge network using #ForgeFed or #SourceHut:
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/List_of_Community-Hosted_Code_Forge_Instances

If anyone knows of any (public-facing) instances missing from the list, please let me know, or if you have an account on the #P2PF wiki, just add them.

@jcbrand also spare me the red-baiting. Given two options, I take the third. Eg neo-liberal capitalism or command economy? Neither. Both have clearly failed (collapse of USSR and of Washington Consensus with GFC). Whatever economic systems will carry us into the post-carbon era, it won't those industrial dinosaurs. Maybe a hybrid of both (eg #P2PF's "partner state"), or something totally new.

@xj9 I hadn't heard of #Hyperboria, looks cool. I've been meaning to update the mesh-related pages on the #P2PF wiki. I'll have to check if that's there.
@popefucker @kaikatsu

'Forking' the #fediverse article from #Wikipedia onto another #MediaWiki instance (#P2PF) results in a mess full of redlinks, and a broken table, whether I copy from the view page, or the edit page. There's got to be an easier way to do this! Some way of combining some of the portability concepts of the #SmallestFederatedWiki into MediaWiki?

@clacke not a coop, because one of the core principles of a coop is voluntary membership. A state, by definition, is not that. As an aside, my politics are a weird mix of social democrat values from unionist family, and my own #counterculture #anarchist inclinations. I'm intrigued by the #P2PF's concept of a #PartnerState as a possible synthesis of the two:
http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Partner_State

@bhaugen yeah, I remember that from when I brought up federated social networks on the #CommonsTransition group on #Loomio ;-) I can see the value of a group like #P2PF having a token "presence" there, to make them discoverable from those outside the choir. But it seems odd to hold their main forum discussions in a FB group, instead of on Loomio or some self-hosted forum system.
@ebel

@bhaugen my understanding is the phrase "peer-to-peer" was coined as a description of a network topology, and was later applied to human-to-human by analogy. The #P2PF were the first folks I came across using it in that way. I could be wrong though.

@ebel

Rich has described his experiments with using Patreon, Medium, and LeanPub to seek revenue for his writing in this piece on the #P2PF blog:
https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/paywalls-vs-creative-commons-experiments-with-patreon-medium-and-leanpub/2018/06/13

One commenter wrote:

> "P2P, still utilize Facebook"

There's a difference between using FB to publish stuff, so people have to log in to FB to see it, and using FB as a megaphone to promote stuff published on the open web, to people who are already using FB. If somebody saw this blog piece because it came through their FB feed, and decided to #DeleteFaceBook as a result, I don't think that's a ruinous compromise. The #P2PF site infesting its users with #goOgleAnalticks on the other hand ...

@mike_hales The only rule of the road on the #P2PF wiki is to sign any editorializing you do there. I find Michel to be very hands-off (libre?), except to thank me for my contibutions, and sometimes respond to questions I ask on the Talk page, with useful guidance. I approached #P2PF very slowly at first, but now feel more and more at home in their spaces.