#jabber — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #jabber, aggregated by home.social.
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Ist diese #NINA Warn-App eigentlich #freieSoftware? #PublicMoneyPublicCode sollte auch hier gelten.
Bei mir ist die #Jabber #XMPP Message des NINA-Bots leider erst um 11:06 Uhr gekommen. Blöd, wenn es ein Katastrophenfall gewesen wäre, wo jede Sekunde zählt. Und die #Sirene habe ich nur gehört, weil das Fenster offen war.
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AFAIK, at the moment, everyone needs to be in the room (MUC), i.e. they need an account.
I can imagine, that at some point, anonymous users ( #XEP-0175?) could be added. That would make #Movim an alternative to #JitsiMeet or #BigBlueButton, only better (ha!), because integrated into #Jabber #XMPP.
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AFAIK, at the moment, everyone needs to be in the room (MUC), i.e. they need an account.
I can imagine, that at some point, anonymous users ( #XEP-0175?) could be added. That would make #Movim an alternative to #JitsiMeet or #BigBlueButton, only better (ha!), because integrated into #Jabber #XMPP.
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AFAIK, at the moment, everyone needs to be in the room (MUC), i.e. they need an account.
I can imagine, that at some point, anonymous users ( #XEP-0175?) could be added. That would make #Movim an alternative to #JitsiMeet or #BigBlueButton, only better (ha!), because integrated into #Jabber #XMPP.
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AFAIK, at the moment, everyone needs to be in the room (MUC), i.e. they need an account.
I can imagine, that at some point, anonymous users ( #XEP-0175?) could be added. That would make #Movim an alternative to #JitsiMeet or #BigBlueButton, only better (ha!), because integrated into #Jabber #XMPP.
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AFAIK, at the moment, everyone needs to be in the room (MUC), i.e. they need an account.
I can imagine, that at some point, anonymous users ( #XEP-0175?) could be added. That would make #Movim an alternative to #JitsiMeet or #BigBlueButton, only better (ha!), because integrated into #Jabber #XMPP.
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Es ist wirklich #Bundeswarntag. Habe um 11:06 Uhr eine Nachricht vom #NINA #Jabber #XMPP bot erhalten.
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Es ist wirklich #Bundeswarntag. Habe um 11:06 Uhr eine Nachricht vom #NINA #Jabber #XMPP bot erhalten.
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Es ist wirklich #Bundeswarntag. Habe um 11:06 Uhr eine Nachricht vom #NINA #Jabber #XMPP bot erhalten.
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Es ist wirklich #Bundeswarntag. Habe um 11:06 Uhr eine Nachricht vom #NINA #Jabber #XMPP bot erhalten.
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Es ist wirklich #Bundeswarntag. Habe um 11:06 Uhr eine Nachricht vom #NINA #Jabber #XMPP bot erhalten.
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Make it an automatic reply 🙂
"Thanks for reaching out. Your message is very important to me. I'll probably read it in the next 72 hours. For a faster response, please consider installing #Snikket (https://snikket.org/) or any other #Jabber/ #XMPP chat application and reach me at xmpp:[email protected]. Thank you for your flexibility and understanding."
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Make it an automatic reply 🙂
"Thanks for reaching out. Your message is very important to me. I'll probably read it in the next 72 hours. For a faster response, please consider installing #Snikket (https://snikket.org/) or any other #Jabber/ #XMPP chat application and reach me at xmpp:[email protected]. Thank you for your flexibility and understanding."
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Make it an automatic reply 🙂
"Thanks for reaching out. Your message is very important to me. I'll probably read it in the next 72 hours. For a faster response, please consider installing #Snikket (https://snikket.org/) or any other #Jabber/ #XMPP chat application and reach me at xmpp:[email protected]. Thank you for your flexibility and understanding."
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Make it an automatic reply 🙂
"Thanks for reaching out. Your message is very important to me. I'll probably read it in the next 72 hours. For a faster response, please consider installing #Snikket (https://snikket.org/) or any other #Jabber/ #XMPP chat application and reach me at xmpp:[email protected]. Thank you for your flexibility and understanding."
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Make it an automatic reply 🙂
"Thanks for reaching out. Your message is very important to me. I'll probably read it in the next 72 hours. For a faster response, please consider installing #Snikket (https://snikket.org/) or any other #Jabber/ #XMPP chat application and reach me at xmpp:[email protected]. Thank you for your flexibility and understanding."
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@tzafrir, you DO have a #Jabber account, don't you? 🙂
#XMPP #RFC6120 #openStandards #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty
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@tzafrir, you DO have a #Jabber account, don't you? 🙂
#XMPP #RFC6120 #openStandards #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty
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@tzafrir, you DO have a #Jabber account, don't you? 🙂
#XMPP #RFC6120 #openStandards #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty
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@tzafrir, you DO have a #Jabber account, don't you? 🙂
#XMPP #RFC6120 #openStandards #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty
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@tzafrir, you DO have a #Jabber account, don't you? 🙂
#XMPP #RFC6120 #openStandards #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty
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Movim 0.35 "Thiele" is out!
This release ships with the very first version of Movim Galener, the Movim SFU service that can be plugged into any XMPP server, allowing you to enable Wide Conference Calls with many more participants ✨
This was the last milestone of a two-year project funded by @nlnet. A big thanks to them for making it happen 🫶
It's highly possible that some minor bugfix versions will follow, as this introduces a lot of new things that might need to be polished and optimized 👀
And as always, you can check out the release notes on the Movim blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/456123c0-78eb-4353-9560-79aba7eb4681
That's all, folks! 😸
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Movim 0.35 "Thiele" is out!
This release ships with the very first version of Movim Galener, the Movim SFU service that can be plugged into any XMPP server, allowing you to enable Wide Conference Calls with many more participants ✨
This was the last milestone of a two-year project funded by @nlnet. A big thanks to them for making it happen 🫶
It's highly possible that some minor bugfix versions will follow, as this introduces a lot of new things that might need to be polished and optimized 👀
And as always, you can check out the release notes on the Movim blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/456123c0-78eb-4353-9560-79aba7eb4681
That's all, folks! 😸
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Movim 0.35 "Thiele" is out!
This release ships with the very first version of Movim Galener, the Movim SFU service that can be plugged into any XMPP server, allowing you to enable Wide Conference Calls with many more participants ✨
This was the last milestone of a two-year project funded by @nlnet. A big thanks to them for making it happen 🫶
It's highly possible that some minor bugfix versions will follow, as this introduces a lot of new things that might need to be polished and optimized 👀
And as always, you can check out the release notes on the Movim blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/456123c0-78eb-4353-9560-79aba7eb4681
That's all, folks! 😸
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Movim 0.35 "Thiele" is out!
This release ships with the very first version of Movim Galener, the Movim SFU service that can be plugged into any XMPP server, allowing you to enable Wide Conference Calls with many more participants ✨
This was the last milestone of a two-year project funded by @nlnet. A big thanks to them for making it happen 🫶
It's highly possible that some minor bugfix versions will follow, as this introduces a lot of new things that might need to be polished and optimized 👀
And as always, you can check out the release notes on the Movim blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/456123c0-78eb-4353-9560-79aba7eb4681
That's all, folks! 😸
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Movim 0.35 "Thiele" is out!
This release ships with the very first version of Movim Galener, the Movim SFU service that can be plugged into any XMPP server, allowing you to enable Wide Conference Calls with many more participants ✨
This was the last milestone of a two-year project funded by @nlnet. A big thanks to them for making it happen 🫶
It's highly possible that some minor bugfix versions will follow, as this introduces a lot of new things that might need to be polished and optimized 👀
And as always, you can check out the release notes on the Movim blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/456123c0-78eb-4353-9560-79aba7eb4681
That's all, folks! 😸
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the possibility of sending someone a simple text-based message over the internet has existed for a very long time, and has been pretty much standardized with email
but most people only engage with email for two reasons: work-related communication (if they have an office job) and automated notices, such as confirming one's registration or, in rare cases, subscriptions to certain things
it is even possible to send end-to-end encrypted and/or signed emails, way before any of the more modern communication protocols gained that ability (and yes, i will admit that the traditional PGP-based way of doing that is flawed)
but the interface of most email clients is really clunky, and the metaphors used in them relate more to traditional paper-based mail, rather than modern-day chat or messaging apps -- you "attach" a file to a message, "CC" (carbon copy) additional addresses if you want to send the same thing to multiple people at once, etc.
and so, when dedicated messaging apps appeared, first as things like AIM, ICQ and MSN, and then in form of the more modern smartphone-capable apps we all tolerate today, these provided a lot of the same experiences, but in a more streamlined and convenient way
i, for one, was particularly surprised as to how quickly they caught on, even though a "modern messenger app" would often lack features that were common on previous-generation services -- such as free-for-chat/away/DND statuses or even custom status messages
often, this convenience came at a different cost -- the modern messaging app uses your phonebook to recognize contacts, and therefore signing up on one inherently demands use of a cellphone number -- while it was still possible to add a phone number as a contact detail on a more traditional app, and some even offered search by that kind of data, it was a more tedious process -- but also, you could use one without having to surrender your phone number, which in many countries is inherently linked to the user's real-life ID
these days, we have more modern open-source decentralized apps and services that try to match the user interface and expectations of the newer generation while providing the same features -- if you use a #Jabber / #XMPP client, such as #Gajim or #Conversations_im, you can still set custom status messages and have end-to-end encryption (with something like OMEMO) without compromising multi-device communications (like in Telegram) or trusting a central server to transfer keys between devices
sadly, doing everything like that still causes issues, most famously the "your device does not have the keys" or "unable to decrypt message" errors that show up in Jabber or #Matrix -- after all, if you can't just trust the server to safely store the keys, you need some other way to transfer them from one device to another, and both OMEMO and Olm have decided on a more complicated mechanism, where you need to either confirm all of your own devices manually (to make sure someone else doesn't sneakily sign in and steal your keys and get to decrypt the messages), or to make sure you trust the other user's set of keys in some other way
unlike the big tech companies with their centralized servers, they can't just say "well, you're already using our servers to log in, so you're inherently trusting us to also manage the keys" -- they don't know what server you and your contacts are using, and even if they have no evil intentions, they can't be sure none of the server admins do as well
this is exactly the type of problem where trying to match the convenience of centralized big-tech solutions will only compromise security, and the only way out is properly educating the users about how the system works
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the possibility of sending someone a simple text-based message over the internet has existed for a very long time, and has been pretty much standardized with email
but most people only engage with email for two reasons: work-related communication (if they have an office job) and automated notices, such as confirming one's registration or, in rare cases, subscriptions to certain things
it is even possible to send end-to-end encrypted and/or signed emails, way before any of the more modern communication protocols gained that ability (and yes, i will admit that the traditional PGP-based way of doing that is flawed)
but the interface of most email clients is really clunky, and the metaphors used in them relate more to traditional paper-based mail, rather than modern-day chat or messaging apps -- you "attach" a file to a message, "CC" (carbon copy) additional addresses if you want to send the same thing to multiple people at once, etc.
and so, when dedicated messaging apps appeared, first as things like AIM, ICQ and MSN, and then in form of the more modern smartphone-capable apps we all tolerate today, these provided a lot of the same experiences, but in a more streamlined and convenient way
i, for one, was particularly surprised as to how quickly they caught on, even though a "modern messenger app" would often lack features that were common on previous-generation services -- such as free-for-chat/away/DND statuses or even custom status messages
often, this convenience came at a different cost -- the modern messaging app uses your phonebook to recognize contacts, and therefore signing up on one inherently demands use of a cellphone number -- while it was still possible to add a phone number as a contact detail on a more traditional app, and some even offered search by that kind of data, it was a more tedious process -- but also, you could use one without having to surrender your phone number, which in many countries is inherently linked to the user's real-life ID
these days, we have more modern open-source decentralized apps and services that try to match the user interface and expectations of the newer generation while providing the same features -- if you use a #Jabber / #XMPP client, such as #Gajim or #Conversations_im, you can still set custom status messages and have end-to-end encryption (with something like OMEMO) without compromising multi-device communications (like in Telegram) or trusting a central server to transfer keys between devices
sadly, doing everything like that still causes issues, most famously the "your device does not have the keys" or "unable to decrypt message" errors that show up in Jabber or #Matrix -- after all, if you can't just trust the server to safely store the keys, you need some other way to transfer them from one device to another, and both OMEMO and Olm have decided on a more complicated mechanism, where you need to either confirm all of your own devices manually (to make sure someone else doesn't sneakily sign in and steal your keys and get to decrypt the messages), or to make sure you trust the other user's set of keys in some other way
unlike the big tech companies with their centralized servers, they can't just say "well, you're already using our servers to log in, so you're inherently trusting us to also manage the keys" -- they don't know what server you and your contacts are using, and even if they have no evil intentions, they can't be sure none of the server admins do as well
this is exactly the type of problem where trying to match the convenience of centralized big-tech solutions will only compromise security, and the only way out is properly educating the users about how the system works
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#Prosody 13.0.6 has been released ( #XMPP / #Jabber / #ProsodyIM / #Lua / #lxmppd / #SCRAM / #SCRAMSHA / #SCRAMSHA1 / #SCRAMSHA256 ) https://prosody.im/
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So far as far as Discord alternatives go, we can list them here:
IRC(The oldest and still continually used protocol for chatting, but prolly hardest for n00bs to onboard with)
XMPP/Jabber(Second oldest, easier onboarding depending on server)
Matrix(Is fine till you learn about self-hosting your own, cuz that's a real rabbit-hole to fall down in. Also encryption, fun!)
Fluxer(Relatively new, basically straight up copies Old Discord)
Signal(More of a one-to-one private messenger imho, but yeah)
Session(Can be one to many, still untested for me)
SimpleX(Don't know much about this one)
Cwitch(Or this one…)
DeltaChat(Have used this one before, pretty cool tbh)
Briar(More of an emergency thing)
Stoat(Formerly Revolt, interesting one)
Teamspeak(Another older one!)
Jami(I don't know much about this one tbh)
I'm sure I missed others lol.
#discord #irc #xmpp #jabber #fluxer #signal #session #simplex #cwitch #deltachat #briar #stoat #teamspeak #jami -
Servidor público descentralizado de #MensajeríaInstantánea y multimedia.
Crea una cuentas: https://www.suchat.org/crear-una-cuenta/
Descarga una #App: https://www.suchat.org/clientes-xmpp/
O utiliza el #WebChat: https://webchat.suchat.org/
Sin seguimiento ni análisis de datos con fines publicitarios o elaboración de perfiles comerciales.
Respetamos tu #privacidad
#XMPP es el estándar abierto para mensajería y presencia.
#Recomiendo #Jabber #Español #España #ServiciosLibres #SoftwareLibre
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## DDFON / Mycelial Web
Sometime in the early 2010s, I've been using DDFON = Decentralized, Distributed, Federated, Open Network.
In 2022/2023, I reopted the chosen new name for the Fediverse "Mycelium" since in the end no one used it (even after multiple votes and discussions). I now use it this way:
* DDFON friendly name is "Mycelial Web".
* Each network is called "Mycelium network".Since a "mycelium" is a single network in real life and the plural of it (a collection of mycelium) is "mycelial".
## Open Social / Social Web / Open Social Web
There is also "Social Web" and "Open Social Web", which are the same actually. However, in the mid to late 2000s, it was already defined as any network that uses any technology that promotes openness and interoperability. There was also a now defunct organization called "Open Social" and a W3C effort supporting such technologies that falls under "Open Social".
Two examples of "Open Social Web" are Hi5 and Google Plus. Hi5 and Google Plus are not DDFON / Mycelial Web but are Social Web / Open Social / Open Social Web.
## Personally
I make a distinction between the much larger "Social Web" / "Open Social" / "Open Social Web" versus the more focused DDFON or Mycelial Web .
Underneath the DDFON / Mycelial Web label are the Mycelium networks like:
1. Fediverse (ActivityPub)
2. ATmosphere (ATproto)
3. The Federation (diaspora*)
4. Matrix (Matrix)
5. Jabber (XMPP)
6. NOSTRich (Nostr)
7. and others🙂
Tags: #OpenSocial #SocialWeb #OpenSocialWeb #Fediverse #ActivityPub #ATmosphere #ATproto #TheFederation #diaspora* #Matrix #Jabber #XMPP #NOSTRich #Nostr #Mycelium #MycelialWeb #DDFON
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Whatever AP devs do, determined BadActors can easily circumvent blocks by going to the web page of your feed. What people looking for private discussion spaces need is something like #jabber #MUCs, or #Matrix rooms, or #Wire group chats, or #Crabgrass groups, or private Discourse instances, or any one of dozens of other free code tools that exist for private group discussions. But no, they demand we turn the fediverse into those to suit their use case.
#EntitledAsFuck