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  1. @demiguru

    As far as I know, in Lisp Machine, the entire software, from the operating system into user applications are all available as gigantic Lisp functions.

    We can use the functions in our code. We can also edit the code, even the code of the program we are currently running, save the code, then reload it.

    Yes, the operating system itself can be edited, saved and reloaded.

    But it is different with Emacs. It is basically an elisp interpreter with some functionalities to aid text editing. These two are all C code.

    They cannot be edited, saved and reload.

    Emacs in Unix possibly is different with Emacs (EINE, ZWEINE) on Lisp Machine.

    #GNUEmacs #Emacs #LispMachine

    @crandel @alerque @Zenie @weavejester

  2. @demiguru #CimateAction A lengthy answer, I'm afraid. FIrst, we need to recognize that there are things we can only do at an individual level - largely related to personal decisions about what we buy, what we do, how we travel, etc. BUt in many cases our options are constrained by where we live, and decisions made by government at all levels.

    Then there are things we cannot do at an individual level, and so require common effort. This can be at the local, state/regional, or federal level.
    So how can we overcome the lobbying power of industry and finance? Well, part of that is understanding why they have lobbying power, and then how to counter that power. Ultimately, that means making politicians recognize that if they do not respond to local wants and needs, they will be replaced in the next election. That's something only their constituents can do - and so a big part of local action is reaching those constituents with a vision that they want to support because it is good for them.

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  3. CW: Elon Musk

    @[email protected] @davetroy @Tnicholsmd And to be explicit, wasn't "bought out". Tesla was a shell company. It had no tech to its name - it was all ACP's. It didn't even own the trademark to its own name. No money changed hands. And - key point - *** was independently wealthy***. He had recently sold his compan NuvoMedia to for $187M.

  4. CW: Elon Musk

    @demiguru @davetroy @Tnicholsmd And to be explicit, #Tesla wasn't "bought out". Tesla was a shell company. It had no tech to its name - it was all ACP's. It didn't even own the trademark to its own name. No money changed hands. And - key point - ***#Eberhard was independently wealthy***. He had recently sold his compan NuvoMedia to #Gemstar for $187M.

  5. CW: Elon Musk

    @demiguru @davetroy @Tnicholsmd And to be explicit, #Tesla wasn't "bought out". Tesla was a shell company. It had no tech to its name - it was all ACP's. It didn't even own the trademark to its own name. No money changed hands. And - key point - ***#Eberhard was independently wealthy***. He had recently sold his compan NuvoMedia to #Gemstar for $187M.

  6. CW: Elon Musk

    @demiguru @davetroy @Tnicholsmd And to be explicit, #Tesla wasn't "bought out". Tesla was a shell company. It had no tech to its name - it was all ACP's. It didn't even own the trademark to its own name. No money changed hands. And - key point - ***#Eberhard was independently wealthy***. He had recently sold his compan NuvoMedia to #Gemstar for $187M.

  7. CW: Elon Musk

    @demiguru @davetroy @Tnicholsmd And to be explicit, #Tesla wasn't "bought out". Tesla was a shell company. It had no tech to its name - it was all ACP's. It didn't even own the trademark to its own name. No money changed hands. And - key point - ***#Eberhard was independently wealthy***. He had recently sold his compan NuvoMedia to #Gemstar for $187M.

  8. CW: Elon Musk

    @[email protected] @davetroy @Tnicholsmd Sorry, but this is revisionist history.

    Both of 's' early companies were mergers between pairs of startups, but he was *absolutely* working on them on his own at the time of the merger. Inc was the merger of Musk's X.com and 's Confinity. And when Elon and merged their forces, was already working on a converted with ACP's powertrain (while Eberhard was working on a with ACP's powertrain).

  9. @amszmidt @restorante @demiguru @crandel @[email protected] @weavejester

    > And the editor on #LispM is called ZWEI.

    Well, technically... :-)

    ZWEI (Zwei Was Eine Initially) was the infrastructure for writing editors, while the actual editor on the lispm was called Zmacs. In practice, nobody messed with Zwei unless they were extending Zmacs.

    I have no experience of Eine, or at least no memory of it.

    And yes, Zmacs was different from Gnu Emacs, which was different from all the other Emacsen before it.

  10. @simon_brooke

    GNU Emacs as a Lisp Machine surely is very nice. But Daniel Weinreb himself disagree with that.

    Is it possible that Emacs is only Lisp Machine in spirit only?

    Here is the link: web.archive.org/web/2025042707

    Note: on the debate about the original creator of Emacs, whether it is David Moon & Guy Steele or Richard Stallman, I am completely neutral.

    Edit: I have ever heard somewhere that Maxima is quite similar with GNU Emacs. At the core of Maxima is an implementation of Common Lisp. Maxima is just sitting on top of the Common Lisp.

    #GNUEmacs #Emacs #LispMachine #Symbolic #LMI #RMS #DavidMoon #Maxima #CommonLisp

    @demiguru @Zenie @weavejester

  11. @[email protected] beautiful contrast both between the in the background and the warm And the contrast between and is !

  12. @kosa_photo The sea of pink offers a pleasant background. I like how it's not

  13. @kosa_photo The sea of pink offers a pleasant background. I like how it's not #monotone #nicework