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  1. There's a meme on FB that asks why no billionaire has funded the halting or reversal of climate change, just so people would revere them for literally saving humanity. This was my response:

    Partly it involves a process change to everything we do, so it doesn't happen on a specific day and so there is no glory, like saving us from an asteroid that's about to destroy Earth. There is no definitive problem that on a certain day you can say "see, it's done".

    Partly because the solutions involve changing how everything on the planet operates in a way that many people will regard as adverse, because even though we talk about caring about our kids, people are really a lot in it for themselves and if it comes down to them having a good time or leaving a livable world for their kids, they're going to have a good time and pretend to hope their kids will survive it.

    Partly it's that there's good money in pretending it's not a big deal, and these are people who like to use money as their signal of goodness. To the extent they pretend they care about humanity, in many cases they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that others do.

    Partly it's that the solution is actually something that even billionaires don't have enough to just buy outright overnight.

    Partly it's that it cuts into their lifestyles, in many cases, because the are some of the most planet-intensive people in existence. One of the things we need to do in order to survive as a species is stop being consumption-oriented and they are the poster-children for consumption.

    Partly it's that they do not perceive that the threat is to all of humanity, only to some of it, and they think the people who escape it will be the clever ones, who they imagine are the ones with money. They think that by becoming rich, they have avoided it, and that they are humanity's best chance.

    Partly it's that they have a bunker in their basement that is prepper-stocked with what they imagine is everything they need and they just don't care about others.

    Partly it's that although we revere them as super-smart for getting to where they are, we over-attribute intelligence and under-attribute sociopathy. So, yes, they don't care that much about others, but also they aren't in a lot of cases the smartest among us.

    Partly it's that everything else they do they already model as saving humanity in one way or another, so the "high" of having these alleged bragging rights would not last long.

    Partly it's that their notion of what "investing" in has nothing to do with outcomes you want to see in the world, and everything to do with what brings monetary return, which steers them in the wrong direction.

    Partly they think there are too many people and it's good that most of them will die, so they are doing humanity a favor by culling its numbers. (I'm not going to get into the racial breakdown of the order in which people die, but there's probably a lot to be said there, too.)

    Partly they may just do the calculation that there are cheaper ways to get adulation.

    #climate #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #ClimateDenial #collapse #extinction #billionaires #LateStageCapitalism #sociopathy #Consumption #AntiConsumption #sustainability #ClimateCulling

  2. There's a meme on FB that asks why no billionaire has funded the halting or reversal of climate change, just so people would revere them for literally saving humanity. This was my response:

    Partly it involves a process change to everything we do, so it doesn't happen on a specific day and so there is no glory, like saving us from an asteroid that's about to destroy Earth. There is no definitive problem that on a certain day you can say "see, it's done".

    Partly because the solutions involve changing how everything on the planet operates in a way that many people will regard as adverse, because even though we talk about caring about our kids, people are really a lot in it for themselves and if it comes down to them having a good time or leaving a livable world for their kids, they're going to have a good time and pretend to hope their kids will survive it.

    Partly it's that there's good money in pretending it's not a big deal, and these are people who like to use money as their signal of goodness. To the extent they pretend they care about humanity, in many cases they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that others do.

    Partly it's that the solution is actually something that even billionaires don't have enough to just buy outright overnight.

    Partly it's that it cuts into their lifestyles, in many cases, because the are some of the most planet-intensive people in existence. One of the things we need to do in order to survive as a species is stop being consumption-oriented and they are the poster-children for consumption.

    Partly it's that they do not perceive that the threat is to all of humanity, only to some of it, and they think the people who escape it will be the clever ones, who they imagine are the ones with money. They think that by becoming rich, they have avoided it, and that they are humanity's best chance.

    Partly it's that they have a bunker in their basement that is prepper-stocked with what they imagine is everything they need and they just don't care about others.

    Partly it's that although we revere them as super-smart for getting to where they are, we over-attribute intelligence and under-attribute sociopathy. So, yes, they don't care that much about others, but also they aren't in a lot of cases the smartest among us.

    Partly it's that everything else they do they already model as saving humanity in one way or another, so the "high" of having these alleged bragging rights would not last long.

    Partly it's that their notion of what "investing" in has nothing to do with outcomes you want to see in the world, and everything to do with what brings monetary return, which steers them in the wrong direction.

    Partly they think there are too many people and it's good that most of them will die, so they are doing humanity a favor by culling its numbers. (I'm not going to get into the racial breakdown of the order in which people die, but there's probably a lot to be said there, too.)

    Partly they may just do the calculation that there are cheaper ways to get adulation.

    #climate #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #ClimateDenial #collapse #extinction #billionaires #LateStageCapitalism #sociopathy #Consumption #AntiConsumption #sustainability #ClimateCulling

  3. There's a meme on FB that asks why no billionaire has funded the halting or reversal of climate change, just so people would revere them for literally saving humanity. This was my response:

    Partly it involves a process change to everything we do, so it doesn't happen on a specific day and so there is no glory, like saving us from an asteroid that's about to destroy Earth. There is no definitive problem that on a certain day you can say "see, it's done".

    Partly because the solutions involve changing how everything on the planet operates in a way that many people will regard as adverse, because even though we talk about caring about our kids, people are really a lot in it for themselves and if it comes down to them having a good time or leaving a livable world for their kids, they're going to have a good time and pretend to hope their kids will survive it.

    Partly it's that there's good money in pretending it's not a big deal, and these are people who like to use money as their signal of goodness. To the extent they pretend they care about humanity, in many cases they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that others do.

    Partly it's that the solution is actually something that even billionaires don't have enough to just buy outright overnight.

    Partly it's that it cuts into their lifestyles, in many cases, because the are some of the most planet-intensive people in existence. One of the things we need to do in order to survive as a species is stop being consumption-oriented and they are the poster-children for consumption.

    Partly it's that they do not perceive that the threat is to all of humanity, only to some of it, and they think the people who escape it will be the clever ones, who they imagine are the ones with money. They think that by becoming rich, they have avoided it, and that they are humanity's best chance.

    Partly it's that they have a bunker in their basement that is prepper-stocked with what they imagine is everything they need and they just don't care about others.

    Partly it's that although we revere them as super-smart for getting to where they are, we over-attribute intelligence and under-attribute sociopathy. So, yes, they don't care that much about others, but also they aren't in a lot of cases the smartest among us.

    Partly it's that everything else they do they already model as saving humanity in one way or another, so the "high" of having these alleged bragging rights would not last long.

    Partly it's that their notion of what "investing" in has nothing to do with outcomes you want to see in the world, and everything to do with what brings monetary return, which steers them in the wrong direction.

    Partly they think there are too many people and it's good that most of them will die, so they are doing humanity a favor by culling its numbers. (I'm not going to get into the racial breakdown of the order in which people die, but there's probably a lot to be said there, too.)

    Partly they may just do the calculation that there are cheaper ways to get adulation.

    #climate #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #ClimateDenial #collapse #extinction #billionaires #LateStageCapitalism #sociopathy #Consumption #AntiConsumption #sustainability #ClimateCulling

  4. There's a meme on FB that asks why no billionaire has funded the halting or reversal of climate change, just so people would revere them for literally saving humanity. This was my response:

    Partly it involves a process change to everything we do, so it doesn't happen on a specific day and so there is no glory, like saving us from an asteroid that's about to destroy Earth. There is no definitive problem that on a certain day you can say "see, it's done".

    Partly because the solutions involve changing how everything on the planet operates in a way that many people will regard as adverse, because even though we talk about caring about our kids, people are really a lot in it for themselves and if it comes down to them having a good time or leaving a livable world for their kids, they're going to have a good time and pretend to hope their kids will survive it.

    Partly it's that there's good money in pretending it's not a big deal, and these are people who like to use money as their signal of goodness. To the extent they pretend they care about humanity, in many cases they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that others do.

    Partly it's that the solution is actually something that even billionaires don't have enough to just buy outright overnight.

    Partly it's that it cuts into their lifestyles, in many cases, because the are some of the most planet-intensive people in existence. One of the things we need to do in order to survive as a species is stop being consumption-oriented and they are the poster-children for consumption.

    Partly it's that they do not perceive that the threat is to all of humanity, only to some of it, and they think the people who escape it will be the clever ones, who they imagine are the ones with money. They think that by becoming rich, they have avoided it, and that they are humanity's best chance.

    Partly it's that they have a bunker in their basement that is prepper-stocked with what they imagine is everything they need and they just don't care about others.

    Partly it's that although we revere them as super-smart for getting to where they are, we over-attribute intelligence and under-attribute sociopathy. So, yes, they don't care that much about others, but also they aren't in a lot of cases the smartest among us.

    Partly it's that everything else they do they already model as saving humanity in one way or another, so the "high" of having these alleged bragging rights would not last long.

    Partly it's that their notion of what "investing" in has nothing to do with outcomes you want to see in the world, and everything to do with what brings monetary return, which steers them in the wrong direction.

    Partly they think there are too many people and it's good that most of them will die, so they are doing humanity a favor by culling its numbers. (I'm not going to get into the racial breakdown of the order in which people die, but there's probably a lot to be said there, too.)

    Partly they may just do the calculation that there are cheaper ways to get adulation.

    #climate #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #ClimateDenial #collapse #extinction #billionaires #LateStageCapitalism #sociopathy #Consumption #AntiConsumption #sustainability #ClimateCulling

  5. There's a meme on FB that asks why no billionaire has funded the halting or reversal of climate change, just so people would revere them for literally saving humanity. This was my response:

    Partly it involves a process change to everything we do, so it doesn't happen on a specific day and so there is no glory, like saving us from an asteroid that's about to destroy Earth. There is no definitive problem that on a certain day you can say "see, it's done".

    Partly because the solutions involve changing how everything on the planet operates in a way that many people will regard as adverse, because even though we talk about caring about our kids, people are really a lot in it for themselves and if it comes down to them having a good time or leaving a livable world for their kids, they're going to have a good time and pretend to hope their kids will survive it.

    Partly it's that there's good money in pretending it's not a big deal, and these are people who like to use money as their signal of goodness. To the extent they pretend they care about humanity, in many cases they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that others do.

    Partly it's that the solution is actually something that even billionaires don't have enough to just buy outright overnight.

    Partly it's that it cuts into their lifestyles, in many cases, because the are some of the most planet-intensive people in existence. One of the things we need to do in order to survive as a species is stop being consumption-oriented and they are the poster-children for consumption.

    Partly it's that they do not perceive that the threat is to all of humanity, only to some of it, and they think the people who escape it will be the clever ones, who they imagine are the ones with money. They think that by becoming rich, they have avoided it, and that they are humanity's best chance.

    Partly it's that they have a bunker in their basement that is prepper-stocked with what they imagine is everything they need and they just don't care about others.

    Partly it's that although we revere them as super-smart for getting to where they are, we over-attribute intelligence and under-attribute sociopathy. So, yes, they don't care that much about others, but also they aren't in a lot of cases the smartest among us.

    Partly it's that everything else they do they already model as saving humanity in one way or another, so the "high" of having these alleged bragging rights would not last long.

    Partly it's that their notion of what "investing" in has nothing to do with outcomes you want to see in the world, and everything to do with what brings monetary return, which steers them in the wrong direction.

    Partly they think there are too many people and it's good that most of them will die, so they are doing humanity a favor by culling its numbers. (I'm not going to get into the racial breakdown of the order in which people die, but there's probably a lot to be said there, too.)

    Partly they may just do the calculation that there are cheaper ways to get adulation.

    #climate #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #ClimateDenial #collapse #extinction #billionaires #LateStageCapitalism #sociopathy #Consumption #AntiConsumption #sustainability #ClimateCulling

  6. By acknowledging that this is the same mechanisms that is used by #climatedenial since more than 2 decades... By acknowledging that this is the same mechanisms that is used by #bigoil lobbies since more than 2 decades ... acknowledging that this is the same mechanisms being used by #climatedeniers

  7. I guess someone has to be first. #Trump is helping them achieve their Texas Gov Abbott right-wing agenda.

    "Corpus Christi, Texas could soon completely out of water in the next year. It’s the eighth largest city in Texas, and a major industrial node in the Gulf Coast."

    #ClimateDenial #ClimateChange #Environment #Eco-Disaster #News #Science #Education #USA #MAGA #Democrats #Texas #Water #Drought

    futurism.com/science-energy/te?

  8. @commissionerHR @coe

    We'd like to think rights are inviolable, but they are fragile and borne of stability and surplus. When those are threatened, people get more casual with what they'll do for others.

    Also, the very notion of annual meetings has an inappropriate stability baked in. Climate is accelerating, which means the pace of its wrath is not synchronized to budget cycles or the Earth's leisurely path around the sun.

    At this point, the very notion of an annual meeting about climate is a statement of denial. It is essential to meet as often and for as long as is needed to get serious action. It may be uncomfortable for representatives to ask there host nation or company for resources or calendar time, itself the most precious resource, but if those entities are not up to feeling uncomfortable in service of something larger, then THAT is the key obstacle and the smoking gun of denialism.

    Climate change should be making us uncomfortable. It promises much worse than that, and soon. Discomfort helps to set priorities properly. Smoothing over discomfort admits the acceptability of status quo priorities.

    Ask for semi-annual meetings or the right to variable lengths of time to get real points across and obtain serious commitment.

    Survival of the species is on the line, and too many places in the world are hierarchically arranged so that that will be managed by herd thinning in vain hope that's enough to let our most affluent survive at the expense of others. In other words, kindness and human rights will be the first casualties of a society structured to preserve its sociopathic leaders at all costs.

    And, saddest of all, when the rest are gone, the sociopaths will realize they haven't the skill to do much of anything necessary even for survival, and then they will be gone, too. If I thought we were focused on preserving at least our kindest, or smartest, or hardest working people, I might have hope in this regard. But the ones with the bunkers are none of these things, nor will they be able to keep those bunkers in working order long enough for the planet to recover and humanity to thrive again.

    #climate #ClimateDenial #HumanRights #AnnualMeeting #AnnualMeetings #collapse #extinction #budgets #civilization #civilisation #society #discomfort #surplus #stability

  9. Big Oil war profits: $30m every hour

    "$30m an hour: big oil reaping huge war windfall from consumers, analysis finds
    Exclusive: Climate action blockers including Saudi Arabia, Russia and major fossil fuel firms set to make extra $234bn by end of 2026."

    "The world’s top 100 oil and gas companies banked more than $30m every hour in unearned profit in the first month of the US-Israeli war in Iran, according to exclusive analysis for the Guardian. Saudi Aramco, Gazprom and ExxonMobil are among the biggest beneficiaries of the bonanza, meaning key opponents of climate action continue to prosper."

    "Jess Ralston, the head of energy at the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit, said: “This oil and gas crisis is illustrating yet again the cost of our dependence on volatile fossil fuels." >>
    theguardian.com/environment/20
    #BigOil #oil #war #profit #cars #ClimateDenial #ClimateCrisis #energy #CarDependency #FossilFuels
    Image: Ad spammed my system. World on fire?

  10. "So, shall we label this as fake science?" is probably the discussion in all those climate denial circles and in the BP boardroom it can be ignored as the shareholders horizon is way shorter than the future collapse of AMOC.
    #AMOC #ClimateBreakdown #science #bp #bigoil #climatedenial

    Critical Atlantic current significantly more likely to collapse than thought
    theguardian.com/environment/20

  11. #Google to tap into gas plant for #AIDatacenter in sharp turn from climate goals

    #Texas power plant would emit 4.5m tons of carbon dioxide per year, more than that of the entire city of San Francisco

    Dara Kerr, Thu 2 Apr 2026

    "According to Crusoe’s 465-page permit application, the power plant would emit as much as 4.5m tons of carbon dioxide, a primary driver of climate change, per year. For comparison, the entire city of San Francisco emits about 4m tons of carbon dioxide annually."

    Read more:
    theguardian.com/technology/202

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/wZFzr

    #GoogleSucks #AISucks #Datacenters #ClimateChange #ClimateDenial #FossilFuels #FossilFools

  12. Why we confronted #EricGujer `s NZZ:

    As the fourth estate, the media bears the responsibility for reporting that holds the state and society to account. Democracy cannot function without independent, fact-based reporting.

    Gujer’s newspaper has long since abandoned the foundations of fact-based discussion and media balance. It has thus become a danger to our country and our democracy. Without the #nzz people in this country would be better informed. But that’s not all.

    Through its biased advocacy in favor of the #FossilFuelIndustry it is one of the main culprits behind #Switzerland ’s climate failure. It actively and deliberately supports the status quo and the #FossilFuels elites, thereby preventing any urgently needed #change to mitigate the life-threatening #ClimateCrisis .

    Through its unscientific discourse of denial, trivialization, and diversion, the NZZ is an active #ClimateCriminal .

    Don’t read NZZ if you want to be informed.

    #dropkollektiv #neinzurzukunftnzz #climatedenial #civilrestistance #scientificfacts