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  1. Are the perpetrators men or the Taliban? Perhaps these da'wah bros are so insecure about their own and their brethren's masculinity, and unwilling to admit complicity in state violence because of the perceived sweeping statement against men in particular. I mean, if you have the energy to not-all-men state violence against women, then you should have the answer or justification for why it is only against women and what exactly you have done to prevent state violence. When blatant misogyny becomes a proper policy, then these men's mental gymnastics to disassociate themselves from the state apparatus are only that, mental gymnastics, nothing more and nothing less.

    HOWEVER, at the same time, this is something we should tread carefully on. What's happening in Iran started from the West's paternalistic rubbish and the Iranian diaspora being imperial agents; it doesn't mean state violence doesn't exist there. The violence is real; the instrumentalisation of that violence for imperial ends is also real. Both are true simultaneously. Everyone engaging in this conversation carries a responsibility to know what they are consenting to. With that in mind, speaking for Afghan women now requires answering: toward what end, through whose infrastructure, and who benefits from this particular framing reaching this particular audience at this particular moment.

    Afghan women, all Muslim women, WE deserve more than allies who speak for us and think that's enough solidarity. Speaking for Afghan women is the bare minimum. Any Zionist American disinformation agency, Gulf state with its petrodollar interests, the Russian state, any external power structures that historically had a hand in atrocities in Afghanistan can very well pay many of you to SPEAK FOR AFGHAN WOMEN. What they won't be doing is disclosing the motive behind speaking up.

    So tell me, what about Afghan women's liberation do you imagine when speaking up for them, through whose infrastructure, and who benefits from this particular framing reaching a wider audience at this particular moment?

    Don't project the reality where Muslims are a minority onto the discourse either. That framing is irrelevant. Muslims are the dominant group in Afghanistan. Use your class analysis. Deconstruct that latent Orientalism that latches onto your leftism while you're at it.

    #Afghanistan #politics #Iran #Taliban #imperialism #paternalism #Muslimwomen #Muslima #womensrights #zionism #misogyny

  2. Are the perpetrators men or the Taliban? Perhaps these da'wah bros are so insecure about their own and their brethren's masculinity, and unwilling to admit complicity in state violence because of the perceived sweeping statement against men in particular. I mean, if you have the energy to not-all-men state violence against women, then you should have the answer or justification for why it is only against women and what exactly you have done to prevent state violence. When blatant misogyny becomes a proper policy, then these men's mental gymnastics to disassociate themselves from the state apparatus are only that, mental gymnastics, nothing more and nothing less.

    HOWEVER, at the same time, this is something we should tread carefully on. What's happening in Iran started from the West's paternalistic rubbish and the Iranian diaspora being imperial agents; it doesn't mean state violence doesn't exist there. The violence is real; the instrumentalisation of that violence for imperial ends is also real. Both are true simultaneously. Everyone engaging in this conversation carries a responsibility to know what they are consenting to. With that in mind, speaking for Afghan women now requires answering: toward what end, through whose infrastructure, and who benefits from this particular framing reaching this particular audience at this particular moment.

    Afghan women, all Muslim women, WE deserve more than allies who speak for us and think that's enough solidarity. Speaking for Afghan women is the bare minimum. Any Zionist American disinformation agency, Gulf state with its petrodollar interests, the Russian state, any external power structures that historically had a hand in atrocities in Afghanistan can very well pay many of you to SPEAK FOR AFGHAN WOMEN. What they won't be doing is disclosing the motive behind speaking up.

    So tell me, what about Afghan women's liberation do you imagine when speaking up for them, through whose infrastructure, and who benefits from this particular framing reaching a wider audience at this particular moment?

    Don't project the reality where Muslims are a minority onto the discourse either. That framing is irrelevant. Muslims are the dominant group in Afghanistan. Use your class analysis. Deconstruct that latent Orientalism that latches onto your leftism while you're at it.

    #Afghanistan #politics #Iran #Taliban #imperialism #paternalism #Muslimwomen #Muslima #womensrights #zionism #misogyny

  3. The Character Arc and Drew DeVault

    In movies and books one dimensional, boring sort of characters, are those that never change throughout the story. Good stories contain character growth. A change in the character's world view. Think of Jake Sully in Avatar: He starts as a marine, ready to shoot and kill every living thing on Pandora. And end up being the leader of Pandoran resistance.

    On the internet people tend to think that other people are set in stone when it comes to their believes. That other people are one dimensional characters without character growth what so ever. If one is born with a flaw, or has a recorded history of a flaw, therefore, using the logic of the citizens of the internet, this flaw is unremovable, untouchable, and unchangeable truth representing this person's every second of existence. That is so silly. The world is full of character growth. The world is full of people learning new things. The world is full of people that change their mind.
  4. The Character Arc and Drew DeVault

    In movies and books one dimensional, boring sort of characters, are those that never change throughout the story. Good stories contain character growth. A change in the character's world view. Think of Jake Sully in Avatar: He starts as a marine, ready to shoot and kill every living thing on Pandora. And end up being the leader of Pandoran resistance.

    On the internet people tend to think that other people are set in stone when it comes to their believes. That other people are one dimensional characters without character growth what so ever. If one is born with a flaw, or has a recorded history of a flaw, therefore, using the logic of the citizens of the internet, this flaw is unremovable, untouchable, and unchangeable truth representing this person's every second of existence. That is so silly. The world is full of character growth. The world is full of people learning new things. The world is full of people that change their mind.
  5. @Gardenia @deuza42 @daliarezk @gomli @gazaverified Solène, a few points:

    1. This isn’t about you, it’s about our friends in Gaza.

    2. Our friends in Gaza are adults like us who can make their own decisions about things like whether they show their faces or share their photos on Mastodon, just like we do.

    3. We can inform our friends in Gaza about privacy issues but we cannot tell them to do anything. We are not their parents. And they are not children. That’s a very paternalistic and, dare I say, colonial view.

    4. By making it appear that they shouldn’t be sharing any photos of themselves, etc., there’s a very real danger of getting them to auto-erase themselves online while Israel is already trying to do that. There is a balance here that I believe you are missing. Their survival also depends on making genuine connections with people in the outside world. Your constant attempts to get them to stop sharing photos of their lives and experiences is pushing them to use AI-generated images, for example, which is making their accounts look like scammers. They are starting to make their accounts and posts look inauthentic, and helping contribute to their erasure. Which is what the Zionists want.

    5. Our friends in Palestine have been living their entire lives under surveillance and know the risks better than we do. Privacy is about threat models. It’s an area I know a thing or two about myself having worked for a third of my life in it. Your efforts, while well meaning, are having a negative effect. Not least of all on our tiny team of volunteers whose limited time is spent dealing with your constant displeasure instead of helping our friends in Gaza.

    Personally, I will be muting you as I do not have the time to function as your personal support department. We will also make it very clear that no one has the right to dictate how our Palestinian friends use Mastodon or the fediverse and that any advice is just that: advice.

    And for anyone from the West reading this, please be careful not paternalise our friends in Gaza.

    We do not know better than they do and we do not have the right to dictate a separate set of rules for them. We can advise them of existing rules and norms if violating them can have a negative impact on them and their accounts and we can try and help if they are persecuted for who they are but we do not get to tell them how to use Mastodon or the fediverse any more than we get to tell anyone from the West.

    Gaza Verified simply verifies, via video calls where one of our volunteers from Gaza is present, that they are Palestinian from Gaza. And, if their account is limited or suspended for who they are, we will advocate on their behalf or help them move to a server that isn’t complicit in genocide. That’s it. That’s all we can do with a tiny team of volunteers. Verification is not a character reference. We are not their parents. And it is not our job, or anyone else’s, to tell them how they should be using Mastodon or the fediverse.

    CC @fedipourgaza @fabio @casey @joynewacc @aseelfromgz @rania40

    #GazaVerified #private #public #paternalism #Gaza #Palestine #mastodon #fediverse

  6. @Gardenia @deuza42 @daliarezk @gomli @gazaverified Solène, a few points:

    1. This isn’t about you, it’s about our friends in Gaza.

    2. Our friends in Gaza are adults like us who can make their own decisions about things like whether they show their faces or share their photos on Mastodon, just like we do.

    3. We can inform our friends in Gaza about privacy issues but we cannot tell them to do anything. We are not their parents. And they are not children. That’s a very paternalistic and, dare I say, colonial view.

    4. By making it appear that they shouldn’t be sharing any photos of themselves, etc., there’s a very real danger of getting them to auto-erase themselves online while Israel is already trying to do that. There is a balance here that I believe you are missing. Their survival also depends on making genuine connections with people in the outside world. Your constant attempts to get them to stop sharing photos of their lives and experiences is pushing them to use AI-generated images, for example, which is making their accounts look like scammers. They are starting to make their accounts and posts look inauthentic, and helping contribute to their erasure. Which is what the Zionists want.

    5. Our friends in Palestine have been living their entire lives under surveillance and know the risks better than we do. Privacy is about threat models. It’s an area I know a thing or two about myself having worked for a third of my life in it. Your efforts, while well meaning, are having a negative effect. Not least of all on our tiny team of volunteers whose limited time is spent dealing with your constant displeasure instead of helping our friends in Gaza.

    Personally, I will be muting you as I do not have the time to function as your personal support department. We will also make it very clear that no one has the right to dictate how our Palestinian friends use Mastodon or the fediverse and that any advice is just that: advice.

    And for anyone from the West reading this, please be careful not paternalise our friends in Gaza.

    We do not know better than they do and we do not have the right to dictate a separate set of rules for them. We can advise them of existing rules and norms if violating them can have a negative impact on them and their accounts and we can try and help if they are persecuted for who they are but we do not get to tell them how to use Mastodon or the fediverse any more than we get to tell anyone from the West.

    Gaza Verified simply verifies, via video calls where one of our volunteers from Gaza is present, that they are Palestinian from Gaza. And, if their account is limited or suspended for who they are, we will advocate on their behalf or help them move to a server that isn’t complicit in genocide. That’s it. That’s all we can do with a tiny team of volunteers. Verification is not a character reference. We are not their parents. And it is not our job, or anyone else’s, to tell them how they should be using Mastodon or the fediverse.

    CC @fedipourgaza @fabio @casey @joynewacc @aseelfromgz @rania40

    #GazaVerified #private #public #paternalism #Gaza #Palestine #mastodon #fediverse

  7. CW: rant

    Guess I'll give up on fish again for one single stupid reason: Its strict refusal to pass unmatched wildcards to commands like grep. No, I am not going to quote each and every regular expression just because this otherwise pretty bloated shell decides to be paternalistic on this topic.

    #fish #shell #paternalism

  8. CW: rant

    Guess I'll give up on fish again for one single stupid reason: Its strict refusal to pass unmatched wildcards to commands like grep. No, I am not going to quote each and every regular expression just because this otherwise pretty bloated shell decides to be paternalistic on this topic.

    #fish #shell #paternalism

  9. "Instead of seeing authoritarianism as inherently gendered and violent, as an inevitable feature of patriarchy, as a system that justifies itself by co-opting any moral framework, you view it as either “uniquely Islam”, an “Abrahamic religions issue”, or “proof that all religions are oppressive.” Why don’t you name a secular, non-authoritarian, non-misogynistic nation-state, then?"

    Share this with your imperial feminist friends.

    wrzky.com/tizr/

    #feminism #liberalfeminism #muslimfeminism #islam #authoritarianism #patriarchy #paternalism #iran #palestine #indonesia #secularism #pluralism #panislamism #marxism #orientalism #edwardsaid

  10. Orientalism and the Denial of Muslim Political Agency

    Western political discourse often treats Muslims as politically illegible, interpreting Muslim societies through secular or liberal frameworks. This critique examines how Orientalism embedded in Western political thought denies Muslim political agency and frames Islamic resistance as a threat rather than a response to imperial violence.

    wrzky.com/orientalism-and-the-

  11. Breaking Down the New Stupid Ageist Californian Law that Requires Age Verification at OS account setup

    Assembly Bill No. 1043 of the State of California forces every operating system vendor to implement an age verification system on "account setup". I guess it's time to break the text of it down and rant a pissed-off rant about how stupid it is. Shall we?
  12. Breaking Down the New Stupid Ageist Californian Law that Requires Age Verification at OS account setup

    Assembly Bill No. 1043 of the State of California forces every operating system vendor to implement an age verification system on "account setup". I guess it's time to break the text of it down and rant a pissed-off rant about how stupid it is. Shall we?
  13. No hacks or kooks, and certainly no politics in science. It's time to ignore, dispense with and abolish the Food and Drug Administration. I'm sure all those private health organizations would love to fill the void, and maybe then we will have as many things approved here as already in Europe and other developed countries.

    cato.org/blog/when-fda-becomes

    #AbolishTheFDA #bureaucracy #FDA #nannyState #overregulation #paternalism #politicizationOfMedicine #politicizationOfScience

  14. Michael Cholbi ja Brent Kious ovat päivittäneet SEP-entryään itsesurmasta, plato.stanford.edu/entries/sui

    Historiallisen katsauksen lisäksi mukana on itsesurman moraalisuuden ja rationaalisuuden pohdintaa yhdeksän eri näkökulmia valottavan alaluvun kautta, ja lopussa on myös linkki Robert Youngin 2024 entryyn vapaaehtoisesta eutananiasta, plato.stanford.edu/entries/eut

    #suicide #itsemurha #kuolema #death #eutanasia #euthanasia #filosofia #philosophy #morality #prohibition #law #psychology #sociology #humanity #suicidology #autonomia #authonomy #voluntaryEuthanasia #paternalism #oikeus #rights #wellbeing #paternalism #libertarism #moralPhilosophy #ethics

  15. Michael Cholbi ja Brent Kious ovat päivittäneet SEP-entryään itsesurmasta, plato.stanford.edu/entries/sui

    Historiallisen katsauksen lisäksi mukana on itsesurman moraalisuuden ja rationaalisuuden pohdintaa yhdeksän eri näkökulmia valottavan alaluvun kautta, ja lopussa on myös linkki Robert Youngin 2024 entryyn vapaaehtoisesta eutananiasta, plato.stanford.edu/entries/eut

    #suicide #itsemurha #kuolema #death #eutanasia #euthanasia #filosofia #philosophy #morality #prohibition #law #psychology #sociology #humanity #suicidology #autonomia #authonomy #voluntaryEuthanasia #paternalism #oikeus #rights #wellbeing #paternalism #libertarism #moralPhilosophy #ethics

  16. CW: Triggering use of language
    "Open Source" vs "Free Software" the disagreement on Paternalism

    Both "open source" and "free software" mean, in terms of software itself, largely the same thing. The source code is published. The project is developed by a community of people. The project is forkable. Many pieces of software are both "free software" and "open source" in the same time. But when you dig into the details of their definitions, you start to see differences.
  17. "Open Source" vs "Free Software" the disagreement on Paternalism - take 2

    There are two types of people. One type of people is following the ideas called "Open Source" and another one follows the ideas of "Free Software". There is a third concept that I will hope to explain in this article, called "Paternalism", that in my opinion is the dividing force between the two camps of people.
  18. GPL doesn't make the program libre

    I don't consider freedom binary, for me some things are inherently more free than others. Here I define freedom as the capacity to do a task unhindered. With such definition, it comes to be clear, what I mean by freedom not being binary and existing on an axis. For instance, repairing a standard PC is easier than the newest model of iPhone. This ease of repairability exists on a gradient, with the PC and iPhone being on different sides. The same applies to the actual binary, software world as well. It is easier to modify a program written in Python than the same one written in C. In Python there is no need to keep recompiling and seeing the changes, all alterations can be done on the fly.
  19. "Open Source" vs "Free Software" the disagreement on Paternalism

    Both "open source" and "free software" mean, in terms of software itself, largely the same thing. The source code is published. The project is developed by a community of people. The project is forkable. Many pieces of software are both "free software" and "open source" in the same time. But when you dig into the details of their definitions, you start to see differences.
  20. Is Islam Compatible with Modern Values?

    When people ask whether Islam is compatible with modernity, they often assume Western liberalism as history’s endpoint. Islam does not exist to validate modernity; it exists to form an ethical life, challenge power, and expose the violence hidden inside “progress.”

    wrzky.com/is-islam-compatible-

  21. A Thought Expeiment to Understand Sexual Abuse

    Today I have an interesting thought experiment for you about specifically the hot topic of 2025-2026: Child Sexual Abuse.
  22. A Thought Expeiment to Understand Sexual Abuse

    Today I have an interesting thought experiment for you about specifically the hot topic of 2025-2026: Child Sexual Abuse.
  23. The Subtlety of Optimal Paternalism in a Population with Bounded Rationality arxiv.org/pdf/2410.13658
    "… optimal utilitarian policy in a heterogeneous population with bounded rationality is highly context specific
    …determination of an optimal policy requires the planner to have considerable knowledge of population preferences and behavior. The identification problem is yet more severe when decision makers may be boundedly rational
    … utilitarian planners with incomplete knowledge of population preferences and deviations from complete rationality should not seek to optimize policy invoking assumptions that lack credibility
    … Planners should recognize their own #boundedRationality, stemming from incompleteness of their knowledge of population preferences and behavior
    … pessimistic about the feasibility of credible implementation of optimal #paternalism. Even when heterogeneous agents are completely rational, revealed preference analysis commonly requires unrealistically strong assumptions to point-identify population distributions of utility functions"
    #BehavioralEconomics

  24. The Subtlety of Optimal Paternalism in a Population with Bounded Rationality arxiv.org/pdf/2410.13658
    "… optimal utilitarian policy in a heterogeneous population with bounded rationality is highly context specific
    …determination of an optimal policy requires the planner to have considerable knowledge of population preferences and behavior. The identification problem is yet more severe when decision makers may be boundedly rational
    … utilitarian planners with incomplete knowledge of population preferences and deviations from complete rationality should not seek to optimize policy invoking assumptions that lack credibility
    … Planners should recognize their own #boundedRationality, stemming from incompleteness of their knowledge of population preferences and behavior
    … pessimistic about the feasibility of credible implementation of optimal #paternalism. Even when heterogeneous agents are completely rational, revealed preference analysis commonly requires unrealistically strong assumptions to point-identify population distributions of utility functions"
    #BehavioralEconomics

  25. Conservative Ageists Tried Censoring Pepper & Carrot

    It is quite funny to me that we live in the world full with people that contradict themselves whenever possible. Politically Conservative people tend to always bring up "Free Speech" whenever Liberal-minded people disagree with their opinions. Yet they are also very much in the business of censorship themselves. We saw that with Florida's Book Bans and we now see it again with Pepper & Carrot. A comics from David Revoy that was attacked recently by those unable to see people expressing love to one another.
  26. From: blenderdumbass . org

    Child Abuse in on my mind right now. I have written a screenplay for a feature film that I'm already in early talks to produce. The bad guy in the movie is a child-rapist / child-killer. His presence alone justifies the anger of the heroes and creates the tension in the film. Yet I don't think I can make a movie that is a shlocky exploitation film. The subject m...

    Read: blenderdumbass.org/articles/wh

    #abuse #childabuse #politics #freedom #freerangekids #kids #paternalism

  27. A quotation from Joseph Addison

    The truth is, the person who pretends to advise, does, in that particular, exercise a superiority over us, and can have no other reason for it, but that, in comparing us with himself, he thinks us defective either in our conduct or our understanding. For these reasons, there is nothing so difficult as the art of making advice agreeable; and indeed all the writers, both ancient and modern, have distinguished themselves among one another, according to the perfection at which they have arrived in this art.

    Joseph Addison (1672-1719) English essayist, poet, statesman
    Essay (1712-10-17), The Spectator, No. 512

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/addison-joseph/76869…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #advice #adviser #attitude #comparison #paternalism #perspective #superiority

  28. "If a barber or a motor mechanic does shoddy work or behaves badly with his customers, he receives immediate critical feedback which forces him to reevaluate and improve either his work or his behavior if he desires to prosper in his trade. Doctors very rarely receive this kind of feedback from their patients because patients feel it may be dangerous or unwise to criticize a person in whose hands they have placed their health."

    #Medicalism #Medicalization #SelfControl #Paternalism

  29. "If a barber or a motor mechanic does shoddy work or behaves badly with his customers, he receives immediate critical feedback which forces him to reevaluate and improve either his work or his behavior if he desires to prosper in his trade. Doctors very rarely receive this kind of feedback from their patients because patients feel it may be dangerous or unwise to criticize a person in whose hands they have placed their health."

    #Medicalism #Medicalization #SelfControl #Paternalism