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Oh man, Chick tracts. That's seriously hard-nosed #fundie. XD
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Oh man, Chick tracts. That's seriously hard-nosed #fundie. XD
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Oh man, Chick tracts. That's seriously hard-nosed #fundie. XD
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Oh man, Chick tracts. That's seriously hard-nosed #fundie. XD
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Oh man, Chick tracts. That's seriously hard-nosed #fundie. XD
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Illustration: Hypatia of Alexandria and Giordano Bruno.
If I encounter a #Fundie or an Xtian who speaks gently, I try to speak gently in return. Now that #MAGA is in the picture, as MAGA is distilled hatred, the Everclear of Christianity, gentle isn't always possible. However, I'd like to lay out a few points in this thread with civility in mind.
Part 1. We can all agree that Wikipedia is just a starting point for research.
It isn't true that just anybody can sign up and add whatever they like. That used to be true. In 2008, the situation was over the top and there was an internal [but public] trial to settle one case. For old-timers, I'm referring to the Slender Virgin Naked Shorting scandal. Which, technically, may have contributed to the Crash of 2008. Yay, Wikipedia.
The trial worked primarily to sweep abuses under the rug. FWIW Jimmie Wales offered to discuss the matter with me. When I pointed out that he'd destroyed evidence, he seemed to lose interest in the discussion.
However, if just anybody adds just anything these days to a Wikipedia article, and it's an important subject, the additions are reverted. To survive, the website has become a least common denominator project.
Part 2. No, there is no strong evidence that #Jesus of Nazareth ever even physically existed. He may have physically existed, but claims which go beyond that don't rise even to the level of myth that is consistent among His contemporaries.
The New Testament, the primary source even as myth for the existence of this person, is a set of texts composed up to 90 years after the putative death of Christ. Some of the texts were composed much earlier, 30 years after His death, but those claim to be by a single person, Paul, when [scholars agree] a number of different people wrote them.
To be fair, there is a core set of Pauline texts, about half a dozen, that were probably written by one person. The others are fan fiction, not a pejorative point but accurate enough, that were added to canon later.
The author of the Pauline core set, Paul, is the only named New Testament author who probably existed and probably wrote at least part of the New Testament. And Paul didn't even claim to have met Jesus Christ.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John weren't named formally as New Testament writers until the Second Century A.D. Four people with those names probably existed. But there is no significant reason to believe that they wrote the texts that are attributed to them. Attribution didn't take place until Christ, if He existed, had been dead for at least 120 to 150 years.
Today, we can't agree about what happened 3 months ago even if it's on video. And this was, again, 120 to 150 years.
We haven't even started on contradictions that are common to all imagined stories that grow over time into myth. A good question to ask Xtians is, "How did Judas die?" The response that is usually offered is, "You're only repeating what the Devil says. I can't hear you. Maranatha. Maranatha."
Spoiler alert: Judas both hanged himself and fell from a height and burst open. #Xtian apologists say that it was both, but it's an awkward conflation.
Nor have we gotten to the fact that the most commonly cited non-Church reference to a historic Christ, the one in Josephus's writings, was faked by Christian copyists. There is a claim that a reference existed before the Christians edited the text, but I haven't seen the evidence to this effect.
I realize now that this thread requires a book. Which has actually been written a number of times.
I'm not able to see how this thread started. But the part about how Christians shouldn't cite Christianity, the fact that it exists, as a justification for anything strikes a chord.
My mother's father was a religious leader of the Ukrainian Diaspora 100 years ago. He was the gentlest man alive. This doesn't change the fact that the religion he supported has been the most horrific and brutal force, after Genghis Khan aka Temujin, of the past 2,000 years. So, it's a conundrum.
The Catholic Church began with the rape and murder of Hypatia circa 415 A.D. This was the moment when civilization could have headed down either of two paths: Enlightenment, progress, a move away from the fact of ape origins. Or a millenium of darkness, horror, and torture and murder of the innocent.
It was the second path. Yay, Church.
They allowed Galileo to live. They burned Giordano Bruno to death. They burned countless other men, women, and children to death as well.
"Oh, that was the past" ? A secular organization can come back from that. But not a "religion". If a "religion" behaves as the one and only original Church did, it isn't possible to brush it aside and still be the religion.
I welcome discussion with #Christians who are civil despite the fact of the brutality of Christianity. MAGA, a subset, not so much. I recommend civility to others as well. But the context isn't argument from authority by Christians. -
Illustration: Hypatia of Alexandria and Giordano Bruno.
If I encounter a #Fundie or an Xtian who speaks gently, I try to speak gently in return. Now that #MAGA is in the picture, as MAGA is distilled hatred, the Everclear of Christianity, gentle isn't always possible. However, I'd like to lay out a few points in this thread with civility in mind.
Part 1. We can all agree that Wikipedia is just a starting point for research.
It isn't true that just anybody can sign up and add whatever they like. That used to be true. In 2008, the situation was over the top and there was an internal [but public] trial to settle one case. For old-timers, I'm referring to the Slender Virgin Naked Shorting scandal. Which, technically, may have contributed to the Crash of 2008. Yay, Wikipedia.
The trial worked primarily to sweep abuses under the rug. FWIW Jimmie Wales offered to discuss the matter with me. When I pointed out that he'd destroyed evidence, he seemed to lose interest in the discussion.
However, if just anybody adds just anything these days to a Wikipedia article, and it's an important subject, the additions are reverted. To survive, the website has become a least common denominator project.
Part 2. No, there is no strong evidence that #Jesus of Nazareth ever even physically existed. He may have physically existed, but claims which go beyond that don't rise even to the level of myth that is consistent among His contemporaries.
The New Testament, the primary source even as myth for the existence of this person, is a set of texts composed up to 90 years after the putative death of Christ. Some of the texts were composed much earlier, 30 years after His death, but those claim to be by a single person, Paul, when [scholars agree] a number of different people wrote them.
To be fair, there is a core set of Pauline texts, about half a dozen, that were probably written by one person. The others are fan fiction, not a pejorative point but accurate enough, that were added to canon later.
The author of the Pauline core set, Paul, is the only named New Testament author who probably existed and probably wrote at least part of the New Testament. And Paul didn't even claim to have met Jesus Christ.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John weren't named formally as New Testament writers until the Second Century A.D. Four people with those names probably existed. But there is no significant reason to believe that they wrote the texts that are attributed to them. Attribution didn't take place until Christ, if He existed, had been dead for at least 120 to 150 years.
Today, we can't agree about what happened 3 months ago even if it's on video. And this was, again, 120 to 150 years.
We haven't even started on contradictions that are common to all imagined stories that grow over time into myth. A good question to ask Xtians is, "How did Judas die?" The response that is usually offered is, "You're only repeating what the Devil says. I can't hear you. Maranatha. Maranatha."
Spoiler alert: Judas both hanged himself and fell from a height and burst open. #Xtian apologists say that it was both, but it's an awkward conflation.
Nor have we gotten to the fact that the most commonly cited non-Church reference to a historic Christ, the one in Josephus's writings, was faked by Christian copyists. There is a claim that a reference existed before the Christians edited the text, but I haven't seen the evidence to this effect.
I realize now that this thread requires a book. Which has actually been written a number of times.
I'm not able to see how this thread started. But the part about how Christians shouldn't cite Christianity, the fact that it exists, as a justification for anything strikes a chord.
My mother's father was a religious leader of the Ukrainian Diaspora 100 years ago. He was the gentlest man alive. This doesn't change the fact that the religion he supported has been the most horrific and brutal force, after Genghis Khan aka Temujin, of the past 2,000 years. So, it's a conundrum.
The Catholic Church began with the rape and murder of Hypatia circa 415 A.D. This was the moment when civilization could have headed down either of two paths: Enlightenment, progress, a move away from the fact of ape origins. Or a millenium of darkness, horror, and torture and murder of the innocent.
It was the second path. Yay, Church.
They allowed Galileo to live. They burned Giordano Bruno to death. They burned countless other men, women, and children to death as well.
"Oh, that was the past" ? A secular organization can come back from that. But not a "religion". If a "religion" behaves as the one and only original Church did, it isn't possible to brush it aside and still be the religion.
I welcome discussion with #Christians who are civil despite the fact of the brutality of Christianity. MAGA, a subset, not so much. I recommend civility to others as well. But the context isn't argument from authority by Christians. -
Illustration: Hypatia of Alexandria and Giordano Bruno.
If I encounter a #Fundie or an Xtian who speaks gently, I try to speak gently in return. Now that #MAGA is in the picture, as MAGA is distilled hatred, the Everclear of Christianity, gentle isn't always possible. However, I'd like to lay out a few points in this thread with civility in mind.
Part 1. We can all agree that Wikipedia is just a starting point for research.
It isn't true that just anybody can sign up and add whatever they like. That used to be true. In 2008, the situation was over the top and there was an internal [but public] trial to settle one case. For old-timers, I'm referring to the Slender Virgin Naked Shorting scandal. Which, technically, may have contributed to the Crash of 2008. Yay, Wikipedia.
The trial worked primarily to sweep abuses under the rug. FWIW Jimmie Wales offered to discuss the matter with me. When I pointed out that he'd destroyed evidence, he seemed to lose interest in the discussion.
However, if just anybody adds just anything these days to a Wikipedia article, and it's an important subject, the additions are reverted. To survive, the website has become a least common denominator project.
Part 2. No, there is no strong evidence that #Jesus of Nazareth ever even physically existed. He may have physically existed, but claims which go beyond that don't rise even to the level of myth that is consistent among His contemporaries.
The New Testament, the primary source even as myth for the existence of this person, is a set of texts composed up to 90 years after the putative death of Christ. Some of the texts were composed much earlier, 30 years after His death, but those claim to be by a single person, Paul, when [scholars agree] a number of different people wrote them.
To be fair, there is a core set of Pauline texts, about half a dozen, that were probably written by one person. The others are fan fiction, not a pejorative point but accurate enough, that were added to canon later.
The author of the Pauline core set, Paul, is the only named New Testament author who probably existed and probably wrote at least part of the New Testament. And Paul didn't even claim to have met Jesus Christ.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John weren't named formally as New Testament writers until the Second Century A.D. Four people with those names probably existed. But there is no significant reason to believe that they wrote the texts that are attributed to them. Attribution didn't take place until Christ, if He existed, had been dead for at least 120 to 150 years.
Today, we can't agree about what happened 3 months ago even if it's on video. And this was, again, 120 to 150 years.
We haven't even started on contradictions that are common to all imagined stories that grow over time into myth. A good question to ask Xtians is, "How did Judas die?" The response that is usually offered is, "You're only repeating what the Devil says. I can't hear you. Maranatha. Maranatha."
Spoiler alert: Judas both hanged himself and fell from a height and burst open. #Xtian apologists say that it was both, but it's an awkward conflation.
Nor have we gotten to the fact that the most commonly cited non-Church reference to a historic Christ, the one in Josephus's writings, was faked by Christian copyists. There is a claim that a reference existed before the Christians edited the text, but I haven't seen the evidence to this effect.
I realize now that this thread requires a book. Which has actually been written a number of times.
I'm not able to see how this thread started. But the part about how Christians shouldn't cite Christianity, the fact that it exists, as a justification for anything strikes a chord.
My mother's father was a religious leader of the Ukrainian Diaspora 100 years ago. He was the gentlest man alive. This doesn't change the fact that the religion he supported has been the most horrific and brutal force, after Genghis Khan aka Temujin, of the past 2,000 years. So, it's a conundrum.
The Catholic Church began with the rape and murder of Hypatia circa 415 A.D. This was the moment when civilization could have headed down either of two paths: Enlightenment, progress, a move away from the fact of ape origins. Or a millenium of darkness, horror, and torture and murder of the innocent.
It was the second path. Yay, Church.
They allowed Galileo to live. They burned Giordano Bruno to death. They burned countless other men, women, and children to death as well.
"Oh, that was the past" ? A secular organization can come back from that. But not a "religion". If a "religion" behaves as the one and only original Church did, it isn't possible to brush it aside and still be the religion.
I welcome discussion with #Christians who are civil despite the fact of the brutality of Christianity. MAGA, a subset, not so much. I recommend civility to others as well. But the context isn't argument from authority by Christians. -
#Fundie #Christianity is #TOXIC!
#Christians Can’t Be #Honest or Open, They Must Hide, #Lie and Deceive -
#Fundie #Christianity is #TOXIC!
#Christians Can’t Be #Honest or Open, They Must Hide, #Lie and Deceive -
#Fundie #Christianity is #TOXIC!
#Christians Can’t Be #Honest or Open, They Must Hide, #Lie and Deceive -
#Fundie #Christianity is #TOXIC!
#Christians Can’t Be #Honest or Open, They Must Hide, #Lie and Deceive -
#Fundie #Christianity is #TOXIC!
#Christians Can’t Be #Honest or Open, They Must Hide, #Lie and Deceive -
"‘We’re going to talk about death today – your death’: a doctor on what it’s like to end a life rather than extend one"
This article about #Canada's MAiD (medical assistance in dying) is a powerful story of people's ultimate rights over their own body, health and death. It will never come to pass in #fundie-vangie #christofascist places like #AZ but I'm glad to know about it.
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@ProPublica This is what happens when voters don't vote all the way down ballot. It allows #MAGAmoron #christofascist #fundie-vangies to steal taxpayer dollars with impunity. I live near a quristian #madrasa that teaches the world is 6000 years old and human children played with dinosaurs.
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Fleeing #Christian #patriarchy: "They raise #women who don't even know the #sound of their #voices"
Former #fundamentalist #TiaLevings discusses her new #memoir and why #evangelical #women speak in "#fundie #babyvoice"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #Spirituality #Conservatives #Extremism #Fascism #Religion #RepublicanParty #Hate #Bigotry #Discrimination #Misogyny #ThePartyOfHate #EmptyThePews
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Fleeing #Christian #patriarchy: "They raise #women who don't even know the #sound of their #voices"
Former #fundamentalist #TiaLevings discusses her new #memoir and why #evangelical #women speak in "#fundie #babyvoice"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #Spirituality #Conservatives #Extremism #Fascism #Religion #RepublicanParty #Hate #Bigotry #Discrimination #Misogyny #ThePartyOfHate #EmptyThePews
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Fleeing #Christian #patriarchy: "They raise #women who don't even know the #sound of their #voices"
Former #fundamentalist #TiaLevings discusses her new #memoir and why #evangelical #women speak in "#fundie #babyvoice"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #Spirituality #Conservatives #Extremism #Fascism #Religion #RepublicanParty #Hate #Bigotry #Discrimination #Misogyny #ThePartyOfHate #EmptyThePews
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Fleeing #Christian #patriarchy: "They raise #women who don't even know the #sound of their #voices"
Former #fundamentalist #TiaLevings discusses her new #memoir and why #evangelical #women speak in "#fundie #babyvoice"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #Spirituality #Conservatives #Extremism #Fascism #Religion #RepublicanParty #Hate #Bigotry #Discrimination #Misogyny #ThePartyOfHate #EmptyThePews
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Fleeing #Christian #patriarchy: "They raise #women who don't even know the #sound of their #voices"
Former #fundamentalist #TiaLevings discusses her new #memoir and why #evangelical #women speak in "#fundie #babyvoice"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #Spirituality #Conservatives #Extremism #Fascism #Religion #RepublicanParty #Hate #Bigotry #Discrimination #Misogyny #ThePartyOfHate #EmptyThePews
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@NinaBernstein1 Thank you for the link. This is fascinating. Two to three million years is a blink of an eye in the space-time continuum. I want to send this to the #fundie-vangie school in town just to watch their heads explode. They're of the ilk who teach the earth is 6000 years old and human children used to play with dinosaurs. They actually rx govt funding to teach this nonsense!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWqpvGq6b4
If you want to get the #fundie baby voice (and all around horribleness) out of your head, try this!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWqpvGq6b4
If you want to get the #fundie baby voice (and all around horribleness) out of your head, try this!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWqpvGq6b4
If you want to get the #fundie baby voice (and all around horribleness) out of your head, try this!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWqpvGq6b4
If you want to get the #fundie baby voice (and all around horribleness) out of your head, try this!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWqpvGq6b4
If you want to get the #fundie baby voice (and all around horribleness) out of your head, try this!
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For those that were exposed to the "700 Club" and Pat Robertson back in the day, you may not have realized that he wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. This article (and the film it references) were published before he died. Of course this sort of thing still goes on. Personally I would not ever trust any preacher, but especialliy not one that has a television show. Those charlatans are not in their business to serve a deity, they are in it to make money and to gain power and influence.
‘Mission Congo’ Alleges Pat Robertson Exploited Post-Genocide Rwandans For Diamonds
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mission-congo-alleges-pat-robertson-exploited-post-genocide-rwandans-for-diamonds#exploitation #exvangelical #christian #christianity #christians #fundie #scandal #religion #ReligiousTrauma #patrobertson
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For those that were exposed to the "700 Club" and Pat Robertson back in the day, you may not have realized that he wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. This article (and the film it references) were published before he died. Of course this sort of thing still goes on. Personally I would not ever trust any preacher, but especialliy not one that has a television show. Those charlatans are not in their business to serve a deity, they are in it to make money and to gain power and influence.
‘Mission Congo’ Alleges Pat Robertson Exploited Post-Genocide Rwandans For Diamonds
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mission-congo-alleges-pat-robertson-exploited-post-genocide-rwandans-for-diamonds#exploitation #exvangelical #christian #christianity #christians #fundie #scandal #religion #ReligiousTrauma #patrobertson
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For those that were exposed to the "700 Club" and Pat Robertson back in the day, you may not have realized that he wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. This article (and the film it references) were published before he died. Of course this sort of thing still goes on. Personally I would not ever trust any preacher, but especialliy not one that has a television show. Those charlatans are not in their business to serve a deity, they are in it to make money and to gain power and influence.
‘Mission Congo’ Alleges Pat Robertson Exploited Post-Genocide Rwandans For Diamonds
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mission-congo-alleges-pat-robertson-exploited-post-genocide-rwandans-for-diamonds#exploitation #exvangelical #christian #christianity #christians #fundie #scandal #religion #ReligiousTrauma #patrobertson
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For those that were exposed to the "700 Club" and Pat Robertson back in the day, you may not have realized that he wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. This article (and the film it references) were published before he died. Of course this sort of thing still goes on. Personally I would not ever trust any preacher, but especialliy not one that has a television show. Those charlatans are not in their business to serve a deity, they are in it to make money and to gain power and influence.
‘Mission Congo’ Alleges Pat Robertson Exploited Post-Genocide Rwandans For Diamonds
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mission-congo-alleges-pat-robertson-exploited-post-genocide-rwandans-for-diamonds#exploitation #exvangelical #christian #christianity #christians #fundie #scandal #religion #ReligiousTrauma #patrobertson
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For those that were exposed to the "700 Club" and Pat Robertson back in the day, you may not have realized that he wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. This article (and the film it references) were published before he died. Of course this sort of thing still goes on. Personally I would not ever trust any preacher, but especialliy not one that has a television show. Those charlatans are not in their business to serve a deity, they are in it to make money and to gain power and influence.
‘Mission Congo’ Alleges Pat Robertson Exploited Post-Genocide Rwandans For Diamonds
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mission-congo-alleges-pat-robertson-exploited-post-genocide-rwandans-for-diamonds#exploitation #exvangelical #christian #christianity #christians #fundie #scandal #religion #ReligiousTrauma #patrobertson
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@skykiss Actually, MSM is a psyop... for the #RWNJ #MAGAmorons, #fundie-vangie #christofascists and #billionaires.
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#Exvangelical Stacie Grahn hosts (with her mom) the Stacie's Mom Podcast. She joins us to talk about her escape from #fundie #Christianity.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMzI3MDM0Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNTc4NjY5Mzg?sa=X&ved=0CLUCEM-BB2oXChMI-KvInN2-gwMVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAE
#Atheism #atheist #exchristian #godless -
#Exvangelical Stacie Grahn hosts (with her mom) the Stacie's Mom Podcast. She joins us to talk about her escape from #fundie #Christianity.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMzI3MDM0Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNTc4NjY5Mzg?sa=X&ved=0CLUCEM-BB2oXChMI-KvInN2-gwMVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAE
#Atheism #atheist #exchristian #godless -
#Exvangelical Stacie Grahn hosts (with her mom) the Stacie's Mom Podcast. She joins us to talk about her escape from #fundie #Christianity.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMzI3MDM0Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNTc4NjY5Mzg?sa=X&ved=0CLUCEM-BB2oXChMI-KvInN2-gwMVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAE
#Atheism #atheist #exchristian #godless -
#Exvangelical Stacie Grahn hosts (with her mom) the Stacie's Mom Podcast. She joins us to talk about her escape from #fundie #Christianity.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMzI3MDM0Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNTc4NjY5Mzg?sa=X&ved=0CLUCEM-BB2oXChMI-KvInN2-gwMVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAE
#Atheism #atheist #exchristian #godless -
#Exvangelical Stacie Grahn hosts (with her mom) the Stacie's Mom Podcast. She joins us to talk about her escape from #fundie #Christianity.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMzI3MDM0Ny9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVk/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL2VwaXNvZGUvNTc4NjY5Mzg?sa=X&ved=0CLUCEM-BB2oXChMI-KvInN2-gwMVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAE
#Atheism #atheist #exchristian #godless -
I was never allowed to celebrate #Halloween growing up because it was demonic, among other #fundie reasons. This year was the first time in a place where I could give out candy. I was so excited to give out candy to all the kids in their costumes, but after a rough couple days at work, I wasn't feeling up to it. So many came by though and the candy I set out went so quickly!
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I was never allowed to celebrate #Halloween growing up because it was demonic, among other #fundie reasons. This year was the first time in a place where I could give out candy. I was so excited to give out candy to all the kids in their costumes, but after a rough couple days at work, I wasn't feeling up to it. So many came by though and the candy I set out went so quickly!
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I was never allowed to celebrate #Halloween growing up because it was demonic, among other #fundie reasons. This year was the first time in a place where I could give out candy. I was so excited to give out candy to all the kids in their costumes, but after a rough couple days at work, I wasn't feeling up to it. So many came by though and the candy I set out went so quickly!
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There's the cream of the crop and the bottom of the barrel, guess which Trump attracts... When you add in the fundie child beating Jebus obsessed contingent it's not a pretty sight.
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There's the cream of the crop and the bottom of the barrel, guess which Trump attracts... When you add in the fundie child beating Jebus obsessed contingent it's not a pretty sight.
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There's the cream of the crop and the bottom of the barrel, guess which Trump attracts... When you add in the fundie child beating Jebus obsessed contingent it's not a pretty sight.
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There's the cream of the crop and the bottom of the barrel, guess which Trump attracts... When you add in the fundie child beating Jebus obsessed contingent it's not a pretty sight.
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There's the cream of the crop and the bottom of the barrel, guess which Trump attracts... When you add in the fundie child beating Jebus obsessed contingent it's not a pretty sight.
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#parenting is hard & at times terrifying. Being a #fundie robbed me of chances to just accept & enjoy my kids. I was always on alert for disobedience, infractions, etc. I would parent SO differently now. I’m glad I got out & none of us buy into religion anymore - and that my kids still love me & want me in their lives. Apologies can’t change the hurt caused; #regret is a scar that I will always carry. It shows growth that I wish hadn’t been necessary. #ReligiousTrauma #exchristian #growth
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#parenting is hard & at times terrifying. Being a #fundie robbed me of chances to just accept & enjoy my kids. I was always on alert for disobedience, infractions, etc. I would parent SO differently now. I’m glad I got out & none of us buy into religion anymore - and that my kids still love me & want me in their lives. Apologies can’t change the hurt caused; #regret is a scar that I will always carry. It shows growth that I wish hadn’t been necessary. #ReligiousTrauma #exchristian #growth
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#parenting is hard & at times terrifying. Being a #fundie robbed me of chances to just accept & enjoy my kids. I was always on alert for disobedience, infractions, etc. I would parent SO differently now. I’m glad I got out & none of us buy into religion anymore - and that my kids still love me & want me in their lives. Apologies can’t change the hurt caused; #regret is a scar that I will always carry. It shows growth that I wish hadn’t been necessary. #ReligiousTrauma #exchristian #growth
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#parenting is hard & at times terrifying. Being a #fundie robbed me of chances to just accept & enjoy my kids. I was always on alert for disobedience, infractions, etc. I would parent SO differently now. I’m glad I got out & none of us buy into religion anymore - and that my kids still love me & want me in their lives. Apologies can’t change the hurt caused; #regret is a scar that I will always carry. It shows growth that I wish hadn’t been necessary. #ReligiousTrauma #exchristian #growth
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#parenting is hard & at times terrifying. Being a #fundie robbed me of chances to just accept & enjoy my kids. I was always on alert for disobedience, infractions, etc. I would parent SO differently now. I’m glad I got out & none of us buy into religion anymore - and that my kids still love me & want me in their lives. Apologies can’t change the hurt caused; #regret is a scar that I will always carry. It shows growth that I wish hadn’t been necessary. #ReligiousTrauma #exchristian #growth
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@slcw The all-purpose goto of #christofascists anbd #fundamentalists: "If we don't like it, demons must be behind it."
Reminds me of the meme with the image of the Ancient Aliens guy, that is captioned "I'm not saying it was aliens .... but it was aliens". Substitute "demons" for "aliens" and you could put the image of just about any #fundie lunatic preacher there. What gets me is they profess to believe that the devil and all the demons were confined to hell (one of the "hells" described by at least one of the three or four ancient words that were all translated into the English word "hell") but yet somehow God just lets them freely run around in our world and cause all kinds of evil and mischeif. If an all-powerful God puts the devil and his demons in hell then they ought to stay there, right? Not be let out on frequent passes just to come around and try to do as much damage as they can. That is just one of the things about the Christian religion that makes no sense but the fundies profess to believe it all the same.
I think "demon-possessed" is just the modern equivalent of accusing someone of being a witch back in the 1600's.
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@slcw The all-purpose goto of #christofascists anbd #fundamentalists: "If we don't like it, demons must be behind it."
Reminds me of the meme with the image of the Ancient Aliens guy, that is captioned "I'm not saying it was aliens .... but it was aliens". Substitute "demons" for "aliens" and you could put the image of just about any #fundie lunatic preacher there. What gets me is they profess to believe that the devil and all the demons were confined to hell (one of the "hells" described by at least one of the three or four ancient words that were all translated into the English word "hell") but yet somehow God just lets them freely run around in our world and cause all kinds of evil and mischeif. If an all-powerful God puts the devil and his demons in hell then they ought to stay there, right? Not be let out on frequent passes just to come around and try to do as much damage as they can. That is just one of the things about the Christian religion that makes no sense but the fundies profess to believe it all the same.
I think "demon-possessed" is just the modern equivalent of accusing someone of being a witch back in the 1600's.
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@slcw The all-purpose goto of #christofascists anbd #fundamentalists: "If we don't like it, demons must be behind it."
Reminds me of the meme with the image of the Ancient Aliens guy, that is captioned "I'm not saying it was aliens .... but it was aliens". Substitute "demons" for "aliens" and you could put the image of just about any #fundie lunatic preacher there. What gets me is they profess to believe that the devil and all the demons were confined to hell (one of the "hells" described by at least one of the three or four ancient words that were all translated into the English word "hell") but yet somehow God just lets them freely run around in our world and cause all kinds of evil and mischeif. If an all-powerful God puts the devil and his demons in hell then they ought to stay there, right? Not be let out on frequent passes just to come around and try to do as much damage as they can. That is just one of the things about the Christian religion that makes no sense but the fundies profess to believe it all the same.
I think "demon-possessed" is just the modern equivalent of accusing someone of being a witch back in the 1600's.
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@slcw The all-purpose goto of #christofascists anbd #fundamentalists: "If we don't like it, demons must be behind it."
Reminds me of the meme with the image of the Ancient Aliens guy, that is captioned "I'm not saying it was aliens .... but it was aliens". Substitute "demons" for "aliens" and you could put the image of just about any #fundie lunatic preacher there. What gets me is they profess to believe that the devil and all the demons were confined to hell (one of the "hells" described by at least one of the three or four ancient words that were all translated into the English word "hell") but yet somehow God just lets them freely run around in our world and cause all kinds of evil and mischeif. If an all-powerful God puts the devil and his demons in hell then they ought to stay there, right? Not be let out on frequent passes just to come around and try to do as much damage as they can. That is just one of the things about the Christian religion that makes no sense but the fundies profess to believe it all the same.
I think "demon-possessed" is just the modern equivalent of accusing someone of being a witch back in the 1600's.
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@slcw The all-purpose goto of #christofascists anbd #fundamentalists: "If we don't like it, demons must be behind it."
Reminds me of the meme with the image of the Ancient Aliens guy, that is captioned "I'm not saying it was aliens .... but it was aliens". Substitute "demons" for "aliens" and you could put the image of just about any #fundie lunatic preacher there. What gets me is they profess to believe that the devil and all the demons were confined to hell (one of the "hells" described by at least one of the three or four ancient words that were all translated into the English word "hell") but yet somehow God just lets them freely run around in our world and cause all kinds of evil and mischeif. If an all-powerful God puts the devil and his demons in hell then they ought to stay there, right? Not be let out on frequent passes just to come around and try to do as much damage as they can. That is just one of the things about the Christian religion that makes no sense but the fundies profess to believe it all the same.
I think "demon-possessed" is just the modern equivalent of accusing someone of being a witch back in the 1600's.
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Just had it confirmed my #fundie parents are holding the position that I'm not ill ( #pwme 30+yrs) & I'm responsible for my sister's divorce from an abusive husband, i.e. "the situation wasn't that bad" It's just that I was in the vicinity w my truthspeak. I just. Really? Still? I wonder if I'll ever not be blown away by such. What happens is I tell myself they felt that way at moments in the past when they were in a dark place, refusing to see so many things. But overall, they know the truth. Ha. They fabricate narratives to hide behind. And that won't ever change. You'd think it would quit making my heart race. Like come on, body, this is nothing new. O.o
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Just had it confirmed my #fundie parents are holding the position that I'm not ill ( #pwme 30+yrs) & I'm responsible for my sister's divorce from an abusive husband, i.e. "the situation wasn't that bad" It's just that I was in the vicinity w my truthspeak. I just. Really? Still? I wonder if I'll ever not be blown away by such. What happens is I tell myself they felt that way at moments in the past when they were in a dark place, refusing to see so many things. But overall, they know the truth. Ha. They fabricate narratives to hide behind. And that won't ever change. You'd think it would quit making my heart race. Like come on, body, this is nothing new. O.o
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Just had it confirmed my #fundie parents are holding the position that I'm not ill ( #pwme 30+yrs) & I'm responsible for my sister's divorce from an abusive husband, i.e. "the situation wasn't that bad" It's just that I was in the vicinity w my truthspeak. I just. Really? Still? I wonder if I'll ever not be blown away by such. What happens is I tell myself they felt that way at moments in the past when they were in a dark place, refusing to see so many things. But overall, they know the truth. Ha. They fabricate narratives to hide behind. And that won't ever change. You'd think it would quit making my heart race. Like come on, body, this is nothing new. O.o