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  1. > Mozi said: Now if the rulers and the gentlemen of the world sincerely desire to procure benefits and avert calamities for the world - if they desire to do righteousness and be superior men, if they desire to strike the way of the sage-kings on the one hand and bless the people on the other - if so, the doctrine of #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar should not be left unheeded.
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    #非戦 #非攻 #非攻下編 #Modi #Mozi #Motsu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #CTextDotOrg

  2. ... if every preparation is in good shape and the state goes out to engage in war, then the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Have we not heard it said that, when a warring state goes on an expedition, of the officers there must be several hundred, of the common people there must be several thousand, and of the soldiers and prisoners there must be ten thousand, before the army can set out? It may last for several years, or, at the shortest, several months. So, the superior will have no time to attend to government, the officials will have no time to attend to their offices, the farmers will have no time to sow or reap, the women will have no time to weave or spin: that is, the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Besides, the chariots will break and horses will be exhausted. As to tents, army supplies, and soldiers' equipment - if one-fifth of these can remain (after the war) it would already be beyond expectation. Moreover, innumerable men will be missing and lost on the way, and will become sick from the long distances, meagre rations, hunger and cold, and die in the ditches. Now the calamity to the people and the world is tremendous. Yet the rulers enjoy doing it. This means they enjoy injuring and exterminating the people; is this not perversity? ...
    When good government is substituted for aggressive war, the country will be benefited many fold. When the expense of the army is limited and the evils of the feudal lords removed, then we shall enjoy prosperity. Let the control (of the army) be judicious and the cause be righteous. Be lenient to the people and place confidence in the army - with this to meet the forces of the feudal lords, there can be no equal in the world. And the benefits to the world will be innumerable. This is what wiII benefit the world, yet the rulers do not understand making use of it: such may be said to be ignorance of the great thing in the world.

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    https://ctext.org/mozi/condemnation-of-offensive-war-iii

    #Modi #Mozi #Motzu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #非攻 #非攻下編
    #MoziBook5III #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar

  3. ... if every preparation is in good shape and the state goes out to engage in war, then the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Have we not heard it said that, when a warring state goes on an expedition, of the officers there must be several hundred, of the common people there must be several thousand, and of the soldiers and prisoners there must be ten thousand, before the army can set out? It may last for several years, or, at the shortest, several months. So, the superior will have no time to attend to government, the officials will have no time to attend to their offices, the farmers will have no time to sow or reap, the women will have no time to weave or spin: that is, the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Besides, the chariots will break and horses will be exhausted. As to tents, army supplies, and soldiers' equipment - if one-fifth of these can remain (after the war) it would already be beyond expectation. Moreover, innumerable men will be missing and lost on the way, and will become sick from the long distances, meagre rations, hunger and cold, and die in the ditches. Now the calamity to the people and the world is tremendous. Yet the rulers enjoy doing it. This means they enjoy injuring and exterminating the people; is this not perversity? ...
    When good government is substituted for aggressive war, the country will be benefited many fold. When the expense of the army is limited and the evils of the feudal lords removed, then we shall enjoy prosperity. Let the control (of the army) be judicious and the cause be righteous. Be lenient to the people and place confidence in the army - with this to meet the forces of the feudal lords, there can be no equal in the world. And the benefits to the world will be innumerable. This is what wiII benefit the world, yet the rulers do not understand making use of it: such may be said to be ignorance of the great thing in the world.

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    https://ctext.org/mozi/condemnation-of-offensive-war-iii

    #Modi #Mozi #Motzu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #非攻 #非攻下編
    #MoziBook5III #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar

  4. ... if every preparation is in good shape and the state goes out to engage in war, then the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Have we not heard it said that, when a warring state goes on an expedition, of the officers there must be several hundred, of the common people there must be several thousand, and of the soldiers and prisoners there must be ten thousand, before the army can set out? It may last for several years, or, at the shortest, several months. So, the superior will have no time to attend to government, the officials will have no time to attend to their offices, the farmers will have no time to sow or reap, the women will have no time to weave or spin: that is, the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Besides, the chariots will break and horses will be exhausted. As to tents, army supplies, and soldiers' equipment - if one-fifth of these can remain (after the war) it would already be beyond expectation. Moreover, innumerable men will be missing and lost on the way, and will become sick from the long distances, meagre rations, hunger and cold, and die in the ditches. Now the calamity to the people and the world is tremendous. Yet the rulers enjoy doing it. This means they enjoy injuring and exterminating the people; is this not perversity? ...
    When good government is substituted for aggressive war, the country will be benefited many fold. When the expense of the army is limited and the evils of the feudal lords removed, then we shall enjoy prosperity. Let the control (of the army) be judicious and the cause be righteous. Be lenient to the people and place confidence in the army - with this to meet the forces of the feudal lords, there can be no equal in the world. And the benefits to the world will be innumerable. This is what wiII benefit the world, yet the rulers do not understand making use of it: such may be said to be ignorance of the great thing in the world.

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    https://ctext.org/mozi/condemnation-of-offensive-war-iii

    #Modi #Mozi #Motzu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #非攻 #非攻下編
    #MoziBook5III #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar

  5. ... if every preparation is in good shape and the state goes out to engage in war, then the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Have we not heard it said that, when a warring state goes on an expedition, of the officers there must be several hundred, of the common people there must be several thousand, and of the soldiers and prisoners there must be ten thousand, before the army can set out? It may last for several years, or, at the shortest, several months. So, the superior will have no time to attend to government, the officials will have no time to attend to their offices, the farmers will have no time to sow or reap, the women will have no time to weave or spin: that is, the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Besides, the chariots will break and horses will be exhausted. As to tents, army supplies, and soldiers' equipment - if one-fifth of these can remain (after the war) it would already be beyond expectation. Moreover, innumerable men will be missing and lost on the way, and will become sick from the long distances, meagre rations, hunger and cold, and die in the ditches. Now the calamity to the people and the world is tremendous. Yet the rulers enjoy doing it. This means they enjoy injuring and exterminating the people; is this not perversity? ...
    When good government is substituted for aggressive war, the country will be benefited many fold. When the expense of the army is limited and the evils of the feudal lords removed, then we shall enjoy prosperity. Let the control (of the army) be judicious and the cause be righteous. Be lenient to the people and place confidence in the army - with this to meet the forces of the feudal lords, there can be no equal in the world. And the benefits to the world will be innumerable. This is what wiII benefit the world, yet the rulers do not understand making use of it: such may be said to be ignorance of the great thing in the world.

    -
    https://ctext.org/mozi/condemnation-of-offensive-war-iii

    #Modi #Mozi #Motzu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #非攻 #非攻下編
    #MoziBook5III #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar

  6. ... if every preparation is in good shape and the state goes out to engage in war, then the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Have we not heard it said that, when a warring state goes on an expedition, of the officers there must be several hundred, of the common people there must be several thousand, and of the soldiers and prisoners there must be ten thousand, before the army can set out? It may last for several years, or, at the shortest, several months. So, the superior will have no time to attend to government, the officials will have no time to attend to their offices, the farmers will have no time to sow or reap, the women will have no time to weave or spin: that is, the state will lose its men and the people will neglect their vocations. Besides, the chariots will break and horses will be exhausted. As to tents, army supplies, and soldiers' equipment - if one-fifth of these can remain (after the war) it would already be beyond expectation. Moreover, innumerable men will be missing and lost on the way, and will become sick from the long distances, meagre rations, hunger and cold, and die in the ditches. Now the calamity to the people and the world is tremendous. Yet the rulers enjoy doing it. This means they enjoy injuring and exterminating the people; is this not perversity? ...
    When good government is substituted for aggressive war, the country will be benefited many fold. When the expense of the army is limited and the evils of the feudal lords removed, then we shall enjoy prosperity. Let the control (of the army) be judicious and the cause be righteous. Be lenient to the people and place confidence in the army - with this to meet the forces of the feudal lords, there can be no equal in the world. And the benefits to the world will be innumerable. This is what wiII benefit the world, yet the rulers do not understand making use of it: such may be said to be ignorance of the great thing in the world.

    -
    https://ctext.org/mozi/condemnation-of-offensive-war-iii

    #Modi #Mozi #Motzu #Motse #墨子 #墨翟 #非攻 #非攻下編
    #MoziBook5III #CondemnationOfOffensiveWar

  7. 半藤末利子:
    > 主人が亡くなる直前のことですが、突然「起きてる?」と声をかけられたのです。病状が悪化したのかと思って「どうしたの?」と聞いたら、「2500年前の思想家に墨子という人がいてね、あの時代にずっと戦争に反対し続けた人なんだ。すごい人だから、墨子をお読みなさい」って。それでまたスヤスヤと寝ちゃった。それが最期の言葉でした。
    #墨子 #半藤一利 #最期の言葉
    #LastWords #ReadMoZi #半藤末利子 #中国思想 #思想 #非戦 #NoWar

  8. Here's another song that comes to mind while reading #MoZi, #墨子 sounds like BokuShi in Japanese, the same word for Protestant church ministers, not the word for Catholic priest.
    > Bob Marley and The Wailers - Fussing And Fighting (1973)
    yewtu.be/watch?v=YN1JoJcRvJg&n
    #BobMarley #FussingAndFighting #PeaceAndHarmony #兼愛 #兼相愛

  9. > Suppose everybody in the world loves universally, loving others as one's self. Will there yet be any unfilial individual?..When every one regards other families as his own.. who will steal? When every one regards other persons as his own person, who will rob?.. there will not be any thieves or robbers. Will there be mutual disturbance.. and invasion among the states.. When every one regards the states of others as one's own, who will invade?
    ctext.org/mozi/book-4
    #相愛 #MutualLove #兼愛 #墨子

  10. > The murder of one person is called unrighteous and incurs one death penalty.. the murder of ten persons will be ten times as unrighteous... a hundred persons will be a hundred times as unrighteous and there should be a hundred death penalties. All.. know that they should condemn these things.. But when it comes to the great unrighteousness of attacking states, they do not... On the contrary, they applaud it, calling it righteous.
    ctext.org/mozi/book-5
    Mozi #墨子 #非戦 #NoWar #Chinese #中国語