#privacy_mining — Public Fediverse posts

@evacide

Eva, I'm not sure whether I believe that's a dedicaed privacy mining funnel.

After attempting to jump through all of the hoops with the crazy KYC-like requirements, including the reliance of IIRC, https://gov.com logon and not until the very end of the verification that I was who I said I was it went and required me to provide a DID (that's a phone number, for those of you who do not already know) that it liked.

I'm sorry (NOT) but there was way more than enough divulged, including my existing Gov.com creds, to believe that California was privacy mining for the sake of tracking their subjugated chattel.

Thanks, great idea and thank you also for your public service, but I don't even know if I"m going to bother to go look again - I FELT REALLY VIOLATED

#tallship #privacy #privacy_mining #fingerprinting #industrial_surveillance

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Chatrie v. United States

Police officers conducted a Fourth Amendment search when they acquired Okello Chatrie’s location data from Google because an individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy in his cellphone location information.

But is that really the case? Sure, your phone's location data, and (in this country at least) a reasonable expectation of privacy, and that would presumably include cellular data the carriers have.

But does it really include location data that Mr Chatrie sold (bartered, traded in kind for access to network services instead of being charged directly for them) to Google, #Amazon, Faceplant, and other companies who buy ( with the right to resell in exchange for the privilege of utilizing their network services) this data - specifically to sell this privacy mined data to other third party aggregators and.... wait for it.... presumably those who either are, or would sell it to law enforcement agencies on the open market?

Lemme break that down into the crux of the biscuit. Faceplant, InstaSpam, TakToe, Google, Amazon, and others, buy your privacy in a transaction that includes your access to their services - that's the fee for using Faceplant (You know it's not free).

Most of those companies are built wholly, or in part, on this form of legally privacy mining you (in exchange for you using their services). That's how you pay for access to their services. They, in turn, sell that data for operating costs of their business product and hopefully make a profit by doing so.

That sure sounds like consensual sex to me!

So, what's the difference between selling your privacy mined data to other aggregators, for advertising, whatev, and law enforcement?

Don't get me wrong, I think that both notions are atrocious injustices:

- selling your privacy to have access to their network
- Selling that privacy mined data to law enforcement

Let's not church it up here folks - You went to the crossroads, just like Robert Johnson and sold your eternal soul so you could post stupid pictures of yourself on InstaSpam. You literally paid #Meta for network access and the use of their products (InstaSpam and FacePlant and Wassup). You litterally paid google for access to and the use of Google Docs and Gmail and YouTube, gDrive, Etc., (Wait for it...) by giving them permission over the ownership of a certain amount of your personal data (location, posts, private emails, documents saved on Google infra, etc.).

And you wanna know what's wrong with them providing law enforcement with this info.... without a warrant? Umm... Because you sold it to them so they could sell it to others on the open market!!!.

Now, I think there could be distinctions between just handing over data without an actual warrant, and selling that data to law enforcement. The former sounds like infringement of rights while the latter sounds perfectly reasonable to me - both resulting in the exact same disclosure of (potentially) your most private secrets.

But the facts of the matter are that you literally sold them the rights to distribute this information about you in the free marketplace!

"You got this ad because you're a teacher, but more importantly you're a Leo (and single). This ad used your location to see you're in Moscow. You like to support sketch comedy, and this ad thinks you do drag,"

Ew that must've stung!

Once upon a time you could just track virtually anyone's location on Faceplant in real time, but when some people started complaining and there were concerns about potential stalkers, they began shoring this up - first, with Opt-out, but eventually, just removing that capability from the platform for all intents and purposes.... sort of.

There are plenty of companies who publish their AUPs and ToS's explaining that under no circumstances will they divulge shit about you without a legally compelling warrant - further, many of these sites/companies often also publish a Warrant Canary. None of these businesses are of the stature that rises to the level of a #Big_Tech stature.

Here's a bit more on the topic of Warrant Canaries. And another #Warrant_Canary example is HERE.

Now, let's not get all upset about an innocent person being persecuted - Okello Chatrie is a fricken' bank robber who walked into and robbed a credit union in Virginia on the 20th of May in 2019.

If you read through that opinion, you may get the impression that the damming information was cellular data - but I don't believe that's the case; rather, I believe it was GPS data that Alphabet (aka Google) collects with your permission, as a condition agreed to so that you can use Google stuffs. You may say 'same difference', but if it was Geolocation based on GPS data that Google collected from his phone (rather than cellular data provided by the cellular carrier that was his provider), that's an important distinction (Besides, Neither T-Mobile nor Verizon are mentioned).

Anyway, he's a despicable scumbag to be sure, but did he give permission for Google to sell that information to other parties as a result of Google's consent for him to gain access to Googles services? After all, Google paid for the right to do so (when he sold his soul).

Where the distinction becomes relevant, as I see it, oh.... wait... disclaimer (IANAL). There, let's move along, in lay terms, coz I'm a lay person. Anyway, as I see it, Google didn't actually [legally] sell this information to a third party, namely the FBI and other law enforcement agencies - They provided under the terms of a warrant that was issued demanding that it be provided.

That might be nit-picking to some, but I think that's a HUGE distinction. Further, had the cops come to Google and asked if they would sell his geolocation data to them, I believe that it may have been a perfectly acceptable and legal transaction - after all, he did sell his privacy rights at the cross-roads.

But this was a judicial warrant, and the information was subpoena'd (I'm reaching here with the nomenclature, but you get the gist of what I'm saying here.

For a warrant demanding the information, he had a reasonable expectation of privacy. For the sale of the disclosure of information privacy farmed in his Google account for these very purposes, the sale would have, or rather might have, been perfectly legal.

I dunno. I'm interested in your take on this.

So, did the #InstaSpam users have an expectation of privacy to keep #Signal from publishing their private information? Nope! Because that data was legitimately purchased from #Faceplant (Meta, Whatev).

On the other hand, was the same data that law enforcement could have presumably legally purchased from #Google, but chose instead to acquire by court order, substantively any different due to the method they incorporated to secure that data?

Was this a subtle difference? Because I could buy that data from Google if I wanted to, right? Was it just because it was #law_enforcement?

In closing, again, I reiterate that #IANAL but it seems to me that there sure are a lot of crux in that biscuit.

#tallship #privacy_mining #privacy #industrial_surveillance #Supreme_Court

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That's right buoys and gulls, notwithstanding the fact that the announcement is about an assassin engaging in an act of terrorism, it's really just an academic distinction - As Mysk points out, look at item "Q" in the graphic if you were under the delusion that you had an expectation of privacy.

It's says nothing about whether you're a bad person or not, but rather, that all of your data is subject to wholesale farming on your Apple 🍏 device.

#tallship #privacy_mining h/t to @mysk for propagating privacy awareness

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RE: https://mastodon.social/users/mysk/statuses/112791500114399254

This Should be *a huge conversation in the #Fediverse - really.

@jupiter_rowland certainly paraphrases much of the sentiment here in the Fediverse where many conversations are taking place, albeit briefly, and then dismissed, but why? Are people too busy to care? Are people too apathetic to take seriously anything that begins with the letters, masto...? Do those 5 letters really invoke such categorical dismissiveness that cuts into topics that would otherwise likely gain immediate traction were it not for mention of that corporate monolithic silo brand?

Probably; likely; perhaps - take your pick. There is indeed a general apathy amongst especially long term Fedizens and also Lemmy users who are refugees from Reddit, but it's okay to dismiss masto as the neo-corporate EEE platform conceivably threatening the UX for millions of Fedizens. And like it or not, there does need to be a viable shitposting platform, which is exactly what masto is, inhabited in very large ways by people who, as Jupiter raises the question, "are incapable of actually engaging in textual conversation. There's something to that.

Well, #A11Y is a very real concern, perhaps for the FEPs, considering there are projects that are very close in architecture to completely ignoring anything that isn't part of the W3's official specification, and that's okay.

It is, however, a misnomer that one must insert alt-text into media on the masto platform, at least at this juncture. Forcing the hand of refugees from the deprecated, #Privacy_Mining, monolithic silos is yet another complication that those poor souls need to be gently nudged into accepting - but even more importantly, ... "Why".

Some popular Android clients will complain if you try to post media without also including alt-text, some have no facilities at all for doing so. This is an adoption phenomenon, slowly being rolled out, as awareness increases (awareness of the WHY - not the HowTO) with respect to the reasons it is an important design consideration.

Do people actually get unceremoniously banned for not including alt-text for attached media on masto? Yes, On some instances they do, as if it will have any affect at all on the wider Fediverse - I have heard on several occasions that this does indeed happen - there aren't many things that piss people off more than having something that is important to them getting yanked out from underneath them in rug-pull fashion than that of an #instabanhammer, and yet childish, juvenile moderators and admins on several masto instances are truly guilty of such dystopian tyranny and abuse of privilege.

Those types of adversarial, clickish masto instances are much of the reason Fediverse gets a bad rap in some silo social networking circles, and it isn't a fair characterization, but the offensive behavior persists. More than an impetus for the deployment of #smolweb, single-user instances, it is indeed primarily a masto phenomenon.

Not a pretty thing, but masto always has been a caustic cauldron of cacophony of enmity and active vitriol, and that's just one more reason to expedite the outreach programs popping up all over the place to entice the good folks to ditch it in favor of many other good social networking platforms mentioned by Jupiter in his cw-LONG article (I wish he wouldn't bother catering to those mastoblasters with that sentiment, they should at least be smart enough to see that it's more substantive than their shitposting personas are capable of parsing).

RE: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/9e481d2a-72a6-4f4a-bad8-b72cf6272327

@jupiter_rowland

Really now, why do people stubbornly adhere to the belief that Government entities require warrants to determine anything about you - like, where you are at this particular moment or the GPS coordinates of your location last Tuesday at 17:42hrs UTC? ... And pretty much anything else you can dream up about yourself: The content of conversations with others, everything you've purchased at anytime, what you are likely to eat for dinner this coming Friday, your medical records; you name it!

All without a warrant, even for local law enforcement.

And why would they bother, when they can just buy it from the #privacy_mining companies that you already gave it to for free?

#tallship #industrial_surveillance #privacy_farming #AYBABTU #Subjugation

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RE: https://fosstodon.org/users/RTP/statuses/112018299149948961

@RTP

This is really messed up stuffs...

I call it despotic overreach via subjugation through state sponsored industrial surveillance systems.... It has nothing to do with capitalism but rather, that thing that Thomas Jefferson gave us... you know, the thing.

Been to a grocery store lately? You've been complaining for decades now, that they artificially inflate the prices of items so that they can offer you steep discounts on a rotating list of them - If, and only if, you consent to being a "club member". Personally, I've consented many a times; Rite-Aid, Albertson's, Wallgreens, CVS,Von's, and many others, as Brittney Spears, Charles Manson, Joseph Stalin, and even John Rambo, another obvious #nom_de_guerre to combat what would follow as spam but worse, industrial surveillance and privacy mining (of course, you also need to use a fake phone number and a /dev/null email addy).

Have you tried to buy things at Jack in the Box or 7/11 or Mcdonald's lately? ... They have an app for that. Why do you suppose that is? They could just as easily and more efficiently deliver their content via PWS/webapps through your regular browser experience (they don't want to be counter-measured with uBlock Origin or integrated anti-tracking measures on the more sensible web browsers).

They're working really hard to deliver you to evil. I walked into a Smart & Final the other day and saw an unbelievable price for a 30 pack of Natural Light Beer - you had to use a "digital coupon" (just like you do at 7/11 to pay the regular, competitive price for an item). I asked the cashier where in their weekly rag the "digital coupon" was located, and she informed me that one needs to install an app to be eligible for the discount. Fuck that noise. Homey don't play dat.

China has WeChat ... Resistance is Futile.

When you install an app, it's a whole different ballpark of invasiveness, intrusions, data farming, and privacy mining, it's like it's your first day in #Pelican_Bay and you announce that you're going to drop the soap as you shower.

So the next time someone says, "Thank you for shopping at Walmart!", or synonymously, "Go Fuck Yourself", just smile, and offer, "Yes, there's an app for that".

What follows below in the #boost I've shared, that so inspired me to address this issue, is not a simple inconvenience - it's a new beginning :p In #Communist_Red_China, you do everything on your #WeChat app - you submit your elementary school homework, you buy stuffs at the local market, you inform on yourself and your friends to their state equivalent of the #Stazi, and you tell them exactly where to come and arrest, perhaps even disappear you. #Falun_Gong? Healthy? awesome! Now your a live organ donor too - you can thank #Meg_Whitman for that one.

You have been assimilated 🖖

All Your Base Are Belong To Us

#tallship #Sunnyvale_Syndrome #Industrial_Surveillance #Privacy_Mining #Data_Farming #Tracking #Despotism #AYBABTU h/t to @gabriel for bringing this to us via his #LibreSolutions_Network

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RE: https://mk.gabe.rocks/notes/9qreb3vsod

@lsn