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1001 Other Albums @[email protected] · 2024-07-23 · 18:00 UTC
The next spotlight in our new “II Much II Listen II” series is number 786 in The List, submitted by kyonshi. Note for simplicity (i.e., too many – or “II” many – punctuation marks), I shortened the album name in the blog post title from Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell.
In this series, we consider how an album named “II” relates to the “I” that came before it. Bat Out of Hell (1977) was Meat Loaf’s wildly successful first solo album, a concept album developed largely out of Jim Steinman’s futuristic Peter Pan musical named Neverland, written in 1974 (as well as bit from a musical Steinman wrote while in college in the late 60s, The Dream Engine). Steinman and Meat Loaf had met the previous year, when Meat Loaf was cast in another musical of Steinman’s (More Than You Deserve). Following the success of Bat I, they would continue their collaboration – and the storyworld of Bat I – with Bat II, which was both written and produced by Steinman.
A lot could be said about the over-the-top but brilliant Bat albums and the duo of Meat Loaf and Steinman – the trials and tribulations of getting the albums made but then their ultimate success…the duo’s somewhat dramatic (if not tragic love-story-type) of relationship, complete with legal disputes (e.g., to get Bat Out of Hell III [2006] made without Steinman’s direct involvement) and the two dying just months apart…how “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” was originally meant for Bat II but then was replaced by “I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That)”, and then how Céline Dion’s spectacular cover essentially stole the thunder as it came out before Bat III…whether or not Mr. Loaf actually says what the “that” is that he wouldn’t do for love…
While wondering what to focus on for this spotlight, though, Mastodon dropped an utter gem in my lap. As it turns out, Michael Whelan, the renowned sci-fi/fantasy artist whose brilliant work has graced hundreds of book, magazine, and album covers, decided to share a lovely behind-the-scenes look into the development of his original painting created for the Bat II cover, right on Mastodon (his handle is @MichaelWhelan). With Whelan’s permission I’m quoting the text of his 5-post thread here, but make sure you click here to see the art he’s attached to each post, including the final full-sized acrylic painting (BACK INTO HELL [1993], 30″ x 20″) that would be cropped to fit the cover of Bat II.
Like everyone else in the world, I was aware of the epic piece Rich Corben had done for the first BAT OUT OF HELL cover—so my first feeling was a sinking one.
I felt dismay at the prospect of trying to do a follow-up to such an signature effort. I was thinking maybe I could palm off something I’d already done so I wouldn’t have to squeeze in another commission I had no time for.
I showed Meat Loaf a concept sketch I’d done titled BIRD OF PREY, and his eyes lit up. “Yeah, yeah, this is what want, only different!”
As it turned out, he had a rather specific idea of what he wanted, but his songwriter Jim Steinman had a different idea entirely. It took no little back-and-forth before we arrived on a concept that was acceptable to both of them.
In the end I resigned myself to getting little sleep and working round the clock to get the painting done. BAT OUT OF HELL II ended up being a landmark comeback album for Meat Loaf, and it was named Cover of the Year by “CD Review” Magazine.
Whelan has also painted the covers for a couple other albums also on The List (Cirith Ungol’s Frost and Fire and Sepultura’s Beneath the Remains), so we’ll see his work again soon (spoilers: very soon, in fact)! But for now, enjoy the art of Bat II, and, as always, happy listening.
https://1001otheralbums.com/2024/07/23/ii-much-ii-listen-ii-meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-ii-1993-us/
#1001OtherAlbums #1990s #conceptAlbum #hardRock #IIMuchIIListenII #JimSteinman #MeatLoaf #MichaelWhelan #rock
#1001otheralbums #1990s #conceptalbum #hardrock #iimuchiilistenii #jimsteinman
1001 Other Albums @[email protected] · 2024-07-23 · 18:00 UTC
The next spotlight in our new “II Much II Listen II” series is number 786 in The List, submitted by kyonshi. Note for simplicity (i.e., too many – or “II” many – punctuation marks), I shortened the album name in the blog post title from Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell.
In this series, we consider how an album named “II” relates to the “I” that came before it. Bat Out of Hell (1977) was Meat Loaf’s wildly successful first solo album, a concept album developed largely out of Jim Steinman’s futuristic Peter Pan musical named Neverland, written in 1974 (as well as bit from a musical Steinman wrote while in college in the late 60s, The Dream Engine). Steinman and Meat Loaf had met the previous year, when Meat Loaf was cast in another musical of Steinman’s (More Than You Deserve). Following the success of Bat I, they would continue their collaboration – and the storyworld of Bat I – with Bat II, which was both written and produced by Steinman.
A lot could be said about the over-the-top but brilliant Bat albums and the duo of Meat Loaf and Steinman – the trials and tribulations of getting the albums made but then their ultimate success…the duo’s somewhat dramatic (if not tragic love-story-type) of relationship, complete with legal disputes (e.g., to get Bat Out of Hell III [2006] made without Steinman’s direct involvement) and the two dying just months apart…how “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” was originally meant for Bat II but then was replaced by “I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That)”, and then how Céline Dion’s spectacular cover essentially stole the thunder as it came out before Bat III…whether or not Mr. Loaf actually says what the “that” is that he wouldn’t do for love…
While wondering what to focus on for this spotlight, though, Mastodon dropped an utter gem in my lap. As it turns out, Michael Whelan, the renowned sci-fi/fantasy artist whose brilliant work has graced hundreds of book, magazine, and album covers, decided to share a lovely behind-the-scenes look into the development of his original painting created for the Bat II cover, right on Mastodon (his handle is @MichaelWhelan). With Whelan’s permission I’m quoting the text of his 5-post thread here, but make sure you click here to see the art he’s attached to each post, including the final full-sized acrylic painting (BACK INTO HELL [1993], 30″ x 20″) that would be cropped to fit the cover of Bat II.
Like everyone else in the world, I was aware of the epic piece Rich Corben had done for the first BAT OUT OF HELL cover—so my first feeling was a sinking one.
I felt dismay at the prospect of trying to do a follow-up to such an signature effort. I was thinking maybe I could palm off something I’d already done so I wouldn’t have to squeeze in another commission I had no time for.
I showed Meat Loaf a concept sketch I’d done titled BIRD OF PREY, and his eyes lit up. “Yeah, yeah, this is what want, only different!”
As it turned out, he had a rather specific idea of what he wanted, but his songwriter Jim Steinman had a different idea entirely. It took no little back-and-forth before we arrived on a concept that was acceptable to both of them.
In the end I resigned myself to getting little sleep and working round the clock to get the painting done. BAT OUT OF HELL II ended up being a landmark comeback album for Meat Loaf, and it was named Cover of the Year by “CD Review” Magazine.
Whelan has also painted the covers for a couple other albums also on The List (Cirith Ungol’s Frost and Fire and Sepultura’s Beneath the Remains), so we’ll see his work again soon (spoilers: very soon, in fact)! But for now, enjoy the art of Bat II, and, as always, happy listening.
https://1001otheralbums.com/2024/07/23/ii-much-ii-listen-ii-meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-ii-1993-us/
#1001OtherAlbums #1990s #conceptAlbum #hardRock #IIMuchIIListenII #JimSteinman #MeatLoaf #MichaelWhelan #rock
#1001otheralbums #1990s #conceptalbum #hardrock #iimuchiilistenii #jimsteinman
1001 Other Albums @[email protected] · 2024-07-23 · 18:00 UTC
The next spotlight in our new “II Much II Listen II” series is number 786 in The List, submitted by kyonshi. Note for simplicity (i.e., too many – or “II” many – punctuation marks), I shortened the album name in the blog post title from Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell.
In this series, we consider how an album named “II” relates to the “I” that came before it. Bat Out of Hell (1977) was Meat Loaf’s wildly successful first solo album, a concept album developed largely out of Jim Steinman’s futuristic Peter Pan musical named Neverland, written in 1974 (as well as bit from a musical Steinman wrote while in college in the late 60s, The Dream Engine). Steinman and Meat Loaf had met the previous year, when Meat Loaf was cast in another musical of Steinman’s (More Than You Deserve). Following the success of Bat I, they would continue their collaboration – and the storyworld of Bat I – with Bat II, which was both written and produced by Steinman.
A lot could be said about the over-the-top but brilliant Bat albums and the duo of Meat Loaf and Steinman – the trials and tribulations of getting the albums made but then their ultimate success…the duo’s somewhat dramatic (if not tragic love-story-type) of relationship, complete with legal disputes (e.g., to get Bat Out of Hell III [2006] made without Steinman’s direct involvement) and the two dying just months apart…how “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” was originally meant for Bat II but then was replaced by “I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That)”, and then how Céline Dion’s spectacular cover essentially stole the thunder as it came out before Bat III…whether or not Mr. Loaf actually says what the “that” is that he wouldn’t do for love…
While wondering what to focus on for this spotlight, though, Mastodon dropped an utter gem in my lap. As it turns out, Michael Whelan, the renowned sci-fi/fantasy artist whose brilliant work has graced hundreds of book, magazine, and album covers, decided to share a lovely behind-the-scenes look into the development of his original painting created for the Bat II cover, right on Mastodon (his handle is @MichaelWhelan). With Whelan’s permission I’m quoting the text of his 5-post thread here, but make sure you click here to see the art he’s attached to each post, including the final full-sized acrylic painting (BACK INTO HELL [1993], 30″ x 20″) that would be cropped to fit the cover of Bat II.
Like everyone else in the world, I was aware of the epic piece Rich Corben had done for the first BAT OUT OF HELL cover—so my first feeling was a sinking one.
I felt dismay at the prospect of trying to do a follow-up to such an signature effort. I was thinking maybe I could palm off something I’d already done so I wouldn’t have to squeeze in another commission I had no time for.
I showed Meat Loaf a concept sketch I’d done titled BIRD OF PREY, and his eyes lit up. “Yeah, yeah, this is what want, only different!”
As it turned out, he had a rather specific idea of what he wanted, but his songwriter Jim Steinman had a different idea entirely. It took no little back-and-forth before we arrived on a concept that was acceptable to both of them.
In the end I resigned myself to getting little sleep and working round the clock to get the painting done. BAT OUT OF HELL II ended up being a landmark comeback album for Meat Loaf, and it was named Cover of the Year by “CD Review” Magazine.
Whelan has also painted the covers for a couple other albums also on The List (Cirith Ungol’s Frost and Fire and Sepultura’s Beneath the Remains), so we’ll see his work again soon (spoilers: very soon, in fact)! But for now, enjoy the art of Bat II, and, as always, happy listening.
https://1001otheralbums.com/2024/07/23/ii-much-ii-listen-ii-meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-ii-1993-us/
#1001OtherAlbums #1990s #conceptAlbum #hardRock #IIMuchIIListenII #JimSteinman #MeatLoaf #MichaelWhelan #rock
#1001otheralbums #1990s #conceptalbum #hardrock #iimuchiilistenii #jimsteinman
1001 Other Albums @[email protected] · 2024-07-23 · 18:00 UTC
The next spotlight in our new “II Much II Listen II” series is number 786 in The List, submitted by kyonshi. Note for simplicity (i.e., too many – or “II” many – punctuation marks), I shortened the album name in the blog post title from Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell.
In this series, we consider how an album named “II” relates to the “I” that came before it. Bat Out of Hell (1977) was Meat Loaf’s wildly successful first solo album, a concept album developed largely out of Jim Steinman’s futuristic Peter Pan musical named Neverland, written in 1974 (as well as bit from a musical Steinman wrote while in college in the late 60s, The Dream Engine). Steinman and Meat Loaf had met the previous year, when Meat Loaf was cast in another musical of Steinman’s (More Than You Deserve). Following the success of Bat I, they would continue their collaboration – and the storyworld of Bat I – with Bat II, which was both written and produced by Steinman.
A lot could be said about the over-the-top but brilliant Bat albums and the duo of Meat Loaf and Steinman – the trials and tribulations of getting the albums made but then their ultimate success…the duo’s somewhat dramatic (if not tragic love-story-type) of relationship, complete with legal disputes (e.g., to get Bat Out of Hell III [2006] made without Steinman’s direct involvement) and the two dying just months apart…how “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” was originally meant for Bat II but then was replaced by “I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That)”, and then how Céline Dion’s spectacular cover essentially stole the thunder as it came out before Bat III…whether or not Mr. Loaf actually says what the “that” is that he wouldn’t do for love…
While wondering what to focus on for this spotlight, though, Mastodon dropped an utter gem in my lap. As it turns out, Michael Whelan, the renowned sci-fi/fantasy artist whose brilliant work has graced hundreds of book, magazine, and album covers, decided to share a lovely behind-the-scenes look into the development of his original painting created for the Bat II cover, right on Mastodon (his handle is @MichaelWhelan). With Whelan’s permission I’m quoting the text of his 5-post thread here, but make sure you click here to see the art he’s attached to each post, including the final full-sized acrylic painting (BACK INTO HELL [1993], 30″ x 20″) that would be cropped to fit the cover of Bat II.
Like everyone else in the world, I was aware of the epic piece Rich Corben had done for the first BAT OUT OF HELL cover—so my first feeling was a sinking one.
I felt dismay at the prospect of trying to do a follow-up to such an signature effort. I was thinking maybe I could palm off something I’d already done so I wouldn’t have to squeeze in another commission I had no time for.
I showed Meat Loaf a concept sketch I’d done titled BIRD OF PREY, and his eyes lit up. “Yeah, yeah, this is what want, only different!”
As it turned out, he had a rather specific idea of what he wanted, but his songwriter Jim Steinman had a different idea entirely. It took no little back-and-forth before we arrived on a concept that was acceptable to both of them.
In the end I resigned myself to getting little sleep and working round the clock to get the painting done. BAT OUT OF HELL II ended up being a landmark comeback album for Meat Loaf, and it was named Cover of the Year by “CD Review” Magazine.
Whelan has also painted the covers for a couple other albums also on The List (Cirith Ungol’s Frost and Fire and Sepultura’s Beneath the Remains), so we’ll see his work again soon (spoilers: very soon, in fact)! But for now, enjoy the art of Bat II, and, as always, happy listening.
https://1001otheralbums.com/2024/07/23/ii-much-ii-listen-ii-meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-ii-1993-us/
#1001OtherAlbums #1990s #conceptAlbum #hardRock #IIMuchIIListenII #JimSteinman #MeatLoaf #MichaelWhelan #rock
#rock #michaelwhelan #meatloaf #jimsteinman #iimuchiilistenii #hardrock