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@me @shollyethan #liberachat is the 'fork' after the successful hostile takeover of #freenode.
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Możecie (lub nie) kojarzyć bajzel wokół przejęcia #Freenode. Niemniej, za sprawą otwartości protokołu #IRC, wiele projektów mogło przenieść się na #LiberaChat z ograniczonymi do minimum trudnościami.
Dobra wiadomość jest taka, że twojej zamkniętej platformy raczej nie czeka podobne przejęcie — bo już jest pod tego typu zarządem od samego początku. Co więc zrobisz, kiedy twój projekt nagle wyleci, i stracisz dostęp do wszystkich danych — włącznie z tymi, których nie powinieneś był tam trzymać? No cóż, rzucisz jakąś żenującym korpobełkotem typu "wyruszamy we wspaniałą podróż ku kolejnej zamkniętej platformie, nie zapomnijcie zainstalować kolejnej naruszającej prywatność 200 MiB apki, żeby uniknąć wykluczenia".
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You may (or may not) recall the #Freenode takeover mess. However, thanks to #IRC being an open and widely supported protocol, many projects migrated to #LiberaChat with as little disruption as possible.
Good news is, your walled garden is unlikely to suffer the fate of Freenode — because it already is there, from day one. What are you going to do when your project suddenly gets banned and you lose access to everything — including all the data that you shouldn't have kept there in the first place? Of course, come up with some corporate bullshit of "join us on our illustrious journey to the next walled garden, and don't forget to install another 200 MiB privacy nightmare app not to be excluded from our community".
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I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer. -
I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer. -
I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer. -
I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer. -
I've spent much of my time since Spring 2012 in #IRC. It's where I met some of my most important associates. However, I've largely kept to my own network, CoderNet, since mid-2017.
FWIW: I was involved as a bystander in the self-destruction of #Freenode and I haven't gone back to either of the offshoots since then.
I do spend some time in EdgyNet, the gamedev network that is run by Edgy McEdge aka Stella Valkyrie. I've known Edgy for about 8 years and I try to offer support.
I used to run an active 60-person channel in Freenode. Things change. These days, there is very little random discussion in my network or EdgyNet. However, IRC in general remains the go-to for simple, lightweight, and secure text chat [ provided that secure mode is used ].
In IRC, there is no corporation that believes it owns you, that focuses on selling flashy add-ons, and that relays everything which is said to other corporations and to the government.
The protocol is super-light. High-school students used to revel in making their very own IRC bots. It's also easy to add IRC support to game worlds and to keep an eye on the worlds that way.
One IRC issue is that a bouncer is helpful. Enter "bip". I run a tweaked "bip" setup and it works fine. For people who want a web gateway, I run TheLounge.
The remaining part is the question of the IRC client. For Linux and Windows, there's #HexChat, irssi, and weechat. Or just a web browser if an IRC network includes TheLounge. For Android, there's Revolution IRC. I don't have an iOS device, so I can't comment on that.
In short, IRC is great. If you'd like to talk to me in real-time, my network is presently:
Network name: CoderNet
IRC host: irc.oldcoder.org
IRC classic port: 6667
IRC secure port: 6697
Web gateway: irc.minetest.org
It isn't essential to join a channel, but if you make it into the network, try:
/join #ventures
To ping me, try:
/msg OldCoder Hello
I'm online 24 hours, some days, subtracting intermittent sleep, errands, or trips to different cities. The errands typically take two hours and the trips typically take a full day.
Illustration: GenAI. A deity offers IRC, the simple and sensible #FOSS chat system, to the viewer. -
I grew up when IRC was the main protocol to use for chatting about computer stuff in real-time. That was back on #freenode, when lilo used to run things (may he RIP).
Heck, when I worked at a previous company, we had an internal IRC server which we used to communicate internally with one-another.
So you end up understanding the "rules" -- especially around things like using pastebins, as well as knowing what can/cannot be shared easily.
That was ~20 years ago though.
Although IRC is still being used, even for some high-profile projects, I see more people join, and pasting in code snippets, treating them as markkdown code-blocks.
This, of course, won't wash with proper IRC clients such as #weechat -- which I've been a user of since forever.
Am I just getting old, or are people not aware of how to use IRC. I'm sure the young whipersnaper types will likely be ignorant, in which case if that's all it is... meh!
But it never used to be like this... 🙂
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All this #Fosstodon drama remember me #freenode I know the reasons to move to other instance are differents, but I can't stop to thing that #fosstodon is freenode and probably #flosssocial is #liberachat
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Musk's takeover of Twitter and later of the whole friggin' US government bears many similarities with the hostile takeover of FreeNode by Andrew Lee.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/q6k9md/ircfreenode_this_is_not_a_hostile_takeover_says/
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I never thought the hostile takeover of #freenode would have an equivalent in geopilitics.
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The Evolution of Internet Relay Chat (IRC)
Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is one of the oldest forms of real-time communication on the internet. It was created in August 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen, a Finnish programmer, as a replacement for a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk) on the University of Oulu's network.
Read More: https://machaddr.substack.com/p/the-evolution-of-internet-relay-chat
#IRC #Chat #OpenSource #Internet #Network #Freenode #Libera #Linux #Computer #Science #Rooms
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@brentdev
.. and on the other hand, you will certainly remember the time well (was that before Corona?) when, due to great egoism and the resulting loss of trust, freenode-irc became a no-go and thus destroyed for all people volunteering in free and open software #liberachat was created out of nowhere, which in turn resulted in a mass switch of all these good spirits to liberachat. This was unprecedented evidence of who the f(l)oss-fsf communities belong to mentally. Do you know a better example of positive conspiratorial and, above all, such great collective unity and clarity? Not me. This happened in no time without much talking. The good spirit called and everyone came. Well a few went to #OFTC, but even #Kali-Linux has a connection bot to liberachat because many of their fans were too quick to join libera. I have never experienced a major brain drain or should I say mind drain. The purest migration of good folks.
I don't mean to say that with what's left of #freenode there are only heartless zombies running around. My friends from PuppyLinux are still there (and also on lberachat) and are holding the fort because many Windows users are interested in #puppylinux to get started and are checking out freenode first.
You can see that so far I've only been on irc channels. Facebook x etc were never an option for me because even in their early days I foresaw that this could not have a good development for their users and for our society.You know, I believe that the spirit here for many people is the same good spirit and I have already seen a few profiles that reinforce my belief. I think I will feel comfortable here.
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@yisraeldov I have lost a count how many times my acquaintances asked me if they can contact me via #WhatsApp. The nearest competitors are #Telegram and #Viber. Of the three mentioned #messengers, I use Telegram. I do not use #Matrix; I tried Matrix and not liked it (the same about #Tox). I use #XMPP aka #Jabber and also #SIP (#VoIP), but not actively for now. I used to use also #IRC until #Freenode gone to another owner.
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@erik Most everyone moved to @liberachat after #Freenode shut down. #IRC is still alive and well, just elsewhere.
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@carnage4life sounds like Leenode, I mean, #freenode, all over again.
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CW: Freenode / Reddit
This whole #reddit situation feels very dejavu to #freenode and its collapse.
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@Sandra It didn't work terribly well. Few of its users even replied to our questions. Judging by other weird encounters (there was the occasional wave of Italians looking for warez), it seemed that someone set up a customized client with a list of IRC servers and channels to join by default. Which of course explained how they'd end up on #freenode, but little else.
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I got curious about what happened to #Freenode, and I read an article about it, and... it seems really similar to what happened to #Twitter recently...
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CW: Birdsite
#Twitter seems to be adopting the death spiral model of #freenode, just on a much larger scale.
Freenode was the largest IRC site, until it was bought by a rich nut job who seemed to implement a new crazy policy every day, one of which was banning people for discussing how to leave Freenode. (I wasn't involved - I just watched the events unfold, 2nd-hand.)
Now I'm technically violating Twitter policy by linking to my Mastodon account in my profile (https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1604531265419591681). But, since the entire purpose of my Twitter account now is to direct people to Mastodon, there's nothing for it but to just see if they decide to ban me for leaving.
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@recursiveelegance Hmm, I thought IRC faded out when #FreeNode went down. I guess it survived to some extent through #LiberaChat and maybe #OFTC.
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Brands migrating here from Twitter might be smart to disable their account, or Twitt might take them from you. That happened during the fall of Freenode, 18 months ago. The story has striking parallels to Twitter's: Got sold to rich dude. Staff left. Rules against hate speech were removed. Starting banning links to alternative networks...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode
#brand #migration #freenode #irc #mastodon #twitter #internet #history #repeating
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One of the points that came up from the #mastodonmeetup in Helsinki: there is a precedent for the kind of shift we are seeing from #Twitter to #Mastodon. When #Freenode #IRC went all bananas, people and projects started leaving in droves. Freenode is now completely empty.
Now the scale is different, of course, but it shows what can happen.
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@RetroSascha Guilty as charged. Seit über 20 Jahren #IRCnet, früher auch viel #Freenode, und immer noch dabei, wenn auch eher in einer kleinen nostalgischen Kerngruppe eines ehemals großen Kanals.
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Wow. I find this scrying back to 26 May 2021
I scry, with my little eye..
Enjoy the stroll down memory lane, but a dark day it was
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Freenode Commits Suicide - Evacuations Underway - Breaking News!
[**PLEASE BOOST**]
A few hours ago, under the direct intervention of the Crown Prince Andrew Lee of South Korea, beginning with about 700 IRC channells, Freenode staff began hijacking and purgings all channels that had mention of "Libera" in their channel topic.
https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse2
More details in a minute, but first, just a short list of the sort of channels that have been seized by Mr. Lee in what can only be described a suicidal and vindictive usurpation of some of the most prominent names in the world of computer software:
#wikipedia
#intel
#python
#ubuntu
#rust
##linux
#openbsd
# fosdem
#clearlinux
The Gentoo channels, Haskel, Weechat, etc., etc., ad nauseum...
Basically, the pillars of the software world, Linux, C, major Fortune 500 companies - you name it. POOF!
Earlier articles on the subjects of what has been widely characterized and regarded as a hostile takeover of freenode in the Media were published here over the course of the past few days and fortunately, our registered projects with freenode and Libera were previously announced as having been secured as well.
Only one of our channels has been affected, because the second wave of hijacking was administered by what we can only presume to be a misbehaving, poorly configured bot, in that it seized ownership of channels that merely had mentions of the string "Libera" or "Libera.Chat" by anyone in the channels.
We received the following **Apology** from Andrew Lee with this statement, at 21:15:30hrs PST, posted directly in one of our channels affected by this second wave of hijackings:
<snip>
-rasengan- [Global Notice] In the recent policy enforcement, some channels were erroneously included. We greatly apologize for the inconvenience. Please contact us in #freenode-services or [email protected]. Thanks for your patience and choosing freenode!
</snip>
To that we say, Fuck you freenode, and Fuck you very much Andrew Lee - go eat a fucking dick you punk ass bitch!
By tomorrow, the usual news media outlets will have published freenode's Obituary.
I'm going to post more discussion links to follow below, but suffice it to say that the Earth is indeed flat for freenode, and that ship has sailed over the edge into the abyss.
In the meantime, we urge everyone who has long standing friendships and associations with others still there to find them, and let them know where you'll be following the vacuum left after this implosion.
R.I.P. freenode
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@kline/106299403921451814
https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A7d3VZuH1myJ6gJS2C
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comparison of channels that have had their topics forcibly changed to reflect that they remain the official channels for registered projects (Libera string removed from topics):
https://archive.is/uHw1g
https://netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=libera&num=100
</snip>
https://www.teddit.net/r/haskell/comments/nl74hc/freenode_has_unilaterally_taken_over_haskell/
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=freenode&sort=byDate&type=story
Twatter is litterally on fire, it's such a mess that I just selected some random post that embodies the type of activities going on there:
https://nitter.fdn.fr/Slatzism/status/1397468106918928386
It's total and complete fuckery.
#tallship #Vger #freenode #libera #irc #FOSS #andrew_lee #fuckery
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Si vous êtes sur #matrix, vous pouvez dès maintenant rejoindre le nouveau réseau #LiberaChat.
Si vous n’avez pas suivi l’histoire : #LiberaChat est le réseau IRC qui va succéder à #Freenode qui vient de changer de main. Freenode hébergeait la grande majorité des salons #IRC dédiés au Libre : on assiste à un exode de milliers de #libristes
Choisissez tout simplement de lister les salons « libera.chat » dans votre client Matrix pour découvrir tous les salons déjà migrés.
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What I'm looking for right now is:
- A good overview of the sitution and what's happened. I'd like the best arguments from each side, though presumably Freenode's recent status should be suitable for theirs.
- A list of affected / migrated channels.
- If possible, a good backgrounder on what IRC is and why it matters / what its past role has been.
- The Freenode history. (I'm aware of a fair bit of it going back to lilo, though I've not been active on the network for about 15 years. I do stop by from time to time, or at least did until the past few weeks --- so yes, I've got a dog in this hunt).
A summary of status reports / developments / news coverage if possible.
(I'm doing most of my initial mining from Hacker News submissions.)
Thanks.
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What I'm looking for right now is:
- A good overview of the sitution and what's happened. I'd like the best arguments from each side, though presumably Freenode's recent status should be suitable for theirs.
- A list of affected / migrated channels.
- If possible, a good backgrounder on what IRC is and why it matters / what its past role has been.
- The Freenode history. (I'm aware of a fair bit of it going back to lilo, though I've not been active on the network for about 15 years. I do stop by from time to time, or at least did until the past few weeks --- so yes, I've got a dog in this hunt).
A summary of status reports / developments / news coverage if possible.
(I'm doing most of my initial mining from Hacker News submissions.)
Thanks.
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Plexodus is covering the Freenode / Liberanet Situation
Plexodus is a ... concept ... with a number of online presences (including a Reddit channel and Wiki) dedicated to the challenge of community migration from dead, or in this case, openly hostile, platforms.
We're now looking at the Freenode hijacking and Liberanet.chat situation.
https://old.reddit.com/r/plexodus/comments/nlquhk/freenode_liberanet_situation/
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Plexodus is covering the Freenode / Liberanet Situation
Plexodus is a ... concept ... with a number of online presences (including a Reddit channel and Wiki) dedicated to the challenge of community migration from dead, or in this case, openly hostile, platforms.
We're now looking at the Freenode hijacking and Liberanet.chat situation.
https://old.reddit.com/r/plexodus/comments/nlquhk/freenode_liberanet_situation/
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Wir ziehen unseren IRC-Channel von #freenode auf #hackint um.
IRC: ircs://irc.hackint.org/#cccc
Web: https://webirc.hackint.org/#irc://irc.hackint.org/#cccc -
Wir ziehen unseren IRC-Channel von #freenode auf #hackint um.
IRC: ircs://irc.hackint.org/#cccc
Web: https://webirc.hackint.org/#irc://irc.hackint.org/#cccc -
For the record, we never thought much of #Freenode, and frankly, are elated to see another centralised system go.
