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@dineinfr @michal.bryxi More than welcome to pop by. I’m super happy to host & show people around - #CouchSurfing / #WarmShowers are my 🫶 platforms

#COUCHERS.org = 73,000 accounts
vs.
#COUCHSURFING = 12,000,000,000 accounts

(ok the older CS inactive % is prob much higher due to age of site - but still more people active in early years than couchers and new signups prob)

73K is not enough vs #Couchsurfing 12MIL (or even half that) but hey it's a better #site + #ethics

https://couchers.org/

#Community #MoralOfTheStory #HowPeopleWork #Share #Truth #TruthCollective #Moral #Human #Humanity

#COUCHERS.org = 73,000 accounts
vs.
#COUCHSURFING = 12,000,000,000 accounts

(ok the older CS inactive % is prob much higher due to age of site - but still more people active in early years than couchers and new signups prob)

73K is not enough vs #Couchsurfing 12MIL (or even half that) but hey it's a better #site + #ethics

https://couchers.org/

#Community #MoralOfTheStory #HowPeopleWork #Share #Truth #TruthCollective #Moral #Human #Humanity

#COUCHERS.org = 73,000 accounts
vs.
#COUCHSURFING = 12,000,000,000 accounts

(ok the older CS inactive % is prob much higher due to age of site - but still more people active in early years than couchers and new signups prob)

73K is not enough vs #Couchsurfing 12MIL (or even half that) but hey it's a better #site + #ethics

https://couchers.org/

#Community #MoralOfTheStory #HowPeopleWork #Share #Truth #TruthCollective #Moral #Human #Humanity

#COUCHERS.org = 73,000 accounts
vs.
#COUCHSURFING = 12,000,000,000 accounts

(ok the older CS inactive % is prob much higher due to age of site - but still more people active in early years than couchers and new signups prob)

73K is not enough vs #Couchsurfing 12MIL (or even half that) but hey it's a better #site + #ethics

https://couchers.org/

#Community #MoralOfTheStory #HowPeopleWork #Share #Truth #TruthCollective #Moral #Human #Humanity

#COUCHSURFING YES changed to #subscription #businessmodel in May #2020 so it was during the #COVID-19 pandemic, so that's a bad example for me to say (as it's an ultimatum to subscribe) but people STILL TO THIS DAY PAY and signup !

And to to #couchers surfing because #wordofmouth or active encouragement on other platforms DOESN'T EXIST MUCH!

So if any of you have a decent contact for #couchers - then encourage them to talk here / do the people work!

#COUCHSURFING YES changed to #subscription #businessmodel in May #2020 so it was during the #COVID-19 pandemic, so that's a bad example for me to say (as it's an ultimatum to subscribe) but people STILL TO THIS DAY PAY and signup !

And to to #couchers surfing because #wordofmouth or active encouragement on other platforms DOESN'T EXIST MUCH!

So if any of you have a decent contact for #couchers - then encourage them to talk here / do the people work!

#COUCHSURFING YES changed to #subscription #businessmodel in May #2020 so it was during the #COVID-19 pandemic, so that's a bad example for me to say (as it's an ultimatum to subscribe) but people STILL TO THIS DAY PAY and signup !

And to to #couchers surfing because #wordofmouth or active encouragement on other platforms DOESN'T EXIST MUCH!

So if any of you have a decent contact for #couchers - then encourage them to talk here / do the people work!

#COUCHSURFING YES changed to #subscription #businessmodel in May #2020 so it was during the #COVID-19 pandemic, so that's a bad example for me to say (as it's an ultimatum to subscribe) but people STILL TO THIS DAY PAY and signup !

And to to #couchers surfing because #wordofmouth or active encouragement on other platforms DOESN'T EXIST MUCH!

So if any of you have a decent contact for #couchers - then encourage them to talk here / do the people work!

#Caturday #Mewpers #elric #CatsOfMastodon #CatsOfFediverse #couchsurfing #blackcat #ragdoll #digitalphotography #nogenerativeai

My Most Possessive Boys

Was ist #Cohousing , #ColaborativLiving und was sind #Clusterwohnungen? Wie grenzen sie sich zu #Couchsurfing, #Flatsharing und zur #Kurzzeitvermietung (#Flatsharing, #Airbnb) ab und dem #Campen lassen auf privaten Gründstücken (#1nitetent) oder gar #Wildcampen . Auch WGs oder #Coliving für Seniorinnen gibt es.
Die Verbraucherzentrale erklärt.

https://www.verbraucherzentrale.de/wissen/umwelt-haushalt/wohnen/co-living-von-wg-bis-cohousing-oder-collaborative-living-75424

Hier wurden nicht erwähnt: Rollheimer (Wohnwagendörfer) , https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mietsh%C3%A4user_Syndikat,Tinyhouse- Siedlungen, Ecovillages, (Ökodörfer) , 

We're going to northern Italy next month. Any things we should see/visit/explore?

#Italy #Travel #Tuskany #Turin #Bologna #Florence #Lombardy #ElmiliaRomagna #Couchsurfing

@Daojoan
#Couchsurfing used to have a vouch system which worked a bit like this (once you'd been vouched for x times you could vouch for other people)

BTW, I'm seeking a place to stay for myself and a friend from Jan. 29th to Feb. 3rd (excluded) 😴

#accomodations #fosdem #couchsurfing

"Windows is like that one friend who crashes on your couch uninvited and eats all your snacks 🍕💻. Meanwhile, the #Bomfather, clearly aspiring to be the Godfather of tech blogs, remains blissfully unaware of the irony in decrying AI while dominating the internet with a hand-drawn vengeance 🖍️🤦‍♂️."
https://bomfather.dev/comics/7/ #Windows #Crashing #TechBlogs #AIIrony #CouchSurfing #HackerNews #ngated

Dear #NewZealand Friends of #WarmShowers or #cycling in general: Would anyone have a place for sleeps for tomorrow nearby #Tekapo or #Pukaki? Boost mucho appreciated.

#CouchSurfing #BikePacking #BikeTouring #LookingForHost

The case of Trustroots alongside the earlier issue of #CouchSurfing are a cautionary tale about the pitfalls of traditional feudalistic #FOSS foundation/ #NGO models for open-source projects. The mess we keep making of #FOSS governance https://hamishcampbell.com/the-mess-we-keep-making-of-foss-governance/

A thank you card to lovely hosts and new friends made while bussing around in the Scottish Highlands. I was lucky enough to visit them again a year later and found my card on their fridge 🥰⛰️

#art #drawing #postcard #travel #solotravel #backpacking #couchsurfing #girlswhotravel #scotlandtravel #scottishhighlands #scotland #roadtrip #bustravel

Was für verrückte Menschen es gibt! Seit sie hier ist, hat sie sich praktisch ausschliesslich um ihren jet lag gekümmert und war gestern quasi 24 Stunden im Bett, hat nichts gegessen ( ich habe extra vegetarisch für sie gekocht). Aber heute Nacht hat sie die ganze Dose Kokosmakronen leer gegessen, die ich letzte Woche gebacken hatte ( vielleicht erinnert ihr Euch an das Experiment).
Wow, #couchsurfing ist eindeutig zu aufregend für mich!¨

Ich bin schon ganz aufgeregt -
habe übers Wochenende Besuch von einer indisch-amerikanischen Wissenschaftlerin, die hier in der Stadt an einem Kongress teilnimmt und über #Couchsurfing für Frauen ein Bett gesucht hat. Treffen von Kulturen, Ideen, Frühstücksgewohnheiten! Bin gespannt! 🤩

Tiamat and her partner are also looking for a safe place to crash (or even just a place to park the van) for a month around #HerberCity or #SaltLakeCity #Utah while she repairs the van. Please reply or let @NeonxDaze know if you can provide this! It would be much appreciated.

#VanLife #AskFedi #FediHelp #Help #MutualAid #Travel #CouchSurfing

I TRAVELED TO ALL 7 CONTINENTS WITH NO MONEY

• Hitchhiking
• Leftover food from restraunts
• Selling cookies for donations
• Couch surfing when possible

💡Sharing this for people to show how people can do anything without money, donations were monetary but people who donated just wanted to help if they didn't have money they would have helped with food or housing or whatever its about the feeling compassion and help.

#Hitchhiking #mutualaid #couchsurfing #gifteconomy #freeworld #tradelesssociety #moneylesssociety #antiwork #yestheory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cNrCPKlEKY

🚨 90% of my Couchsurfing messages had hidden motives! Here's how I learned to stay safe as a solo female traveler ✈️👩

Read more: https://flip.it/IV8BGY

#travel #traveltips #travelhacks #couchsurfing #couchsurfer #solotravel #solofemaletraveler #wanderlust

On my last trip I discovered https://welcometomygarden.org and I *love* the vibe of that community.

#WelcomeToMyGarden #CouchSurfing #WarmShowers #BikeTouring

Hi Internet :)
Ich suche eine Couch in #Augsburg (oder sonst München, Ulm,…) wo ich nächste Woche Dienstag auf Mittwoch übernachten könnte.

Ich komme Dienstag spät an und muss Mittwoch früh hoch. Viel Socialzeit ist da leider nicht. Es geht also wirklich nur um einen Schlafplatz.

Könnt mich jmd hosten?
#couchsurfing :blobcatflower:

Edit: Couch gefunden :)

🌍Hi #fediverse! Who of you is using the free and open source hospitality network #bewelcome, instead of #couchsurfing? Any experiences with the platform or the community?

https://www.bewelcome.org/

If you want to visit the European Capital of Culture #Chemnitz2025, don't miss out on meeting the locals. #Couchsurfing is a great way to explore the city and get a truly authentic experience. Use https://bewelcome.org for example to find a host.

#ECOC #CapitalOfCulture #Chemnitz #Tourism #beWelcome #warmShowers

@sesivany Tady se odvážím si svojí biased dojmo-statistikou oponovat: Poslední ~3 roky moji hosté z celého světa na #WarmShowers / #CouchSurfing už výhradně hlásí že používají jen dvě aplikace se splitem 50/50 mezi #MapyCz a #Komoot.
Jakákoliv alternativa pro kolo / hiking je spíš výjimečná. Mapy.cz jsou ve světě známé a uznávané.

Aux dernières vacances nous sommes partis vers Freiburg en Allemagne et au passage, nous nous sommes arrêtés à Tournus (visite by night avec nos charmants hôtes de couchsurfing), et aux hospices de Beaune !
Nous avons beaucoup aimé !
#tournus #beaune #couchsurfing

@wilms
Ja, seitdem #couchsurfing Gebühr kostet (für jeden, nicht mal "nur host" kostenfrei), hat die Community leider stark nachgelassen (verständlicherweise)
Ich streue und gucke in verschiedenen Communities.
Ich habe noch einen #warmshowers Account, schaue bei #1nitetent und #WelcomeToMyGarden - aber ich bin auch mit dem Zelt unterwegs

Dieses Dachgeber scheint mir unpraktikabel - wer schleppt denn ein 260 Seiten Buch mit... Und auch allgemein

Ansonsten hörte ich noch von #bewelcome

Frage an die #Fahrradreise-Community: wir planen zu dritt über Ostern die Saison ab #Duisburg Richtung NL zu eröffnen, netto 4-5 Tage à 40-80km. Ist der #Dachgeber zu empfehlen? Vor Jahren habe ich gute Erfahrungen mit #Couchsurfing gemacht, aber das ist nicht mehr so attraktiv. Wie geht ihr bei der Übernachtungsplanung vor? Gibt es Tipps bzgl hübscher Zwischenziele für unsere Familie im Raum MG/#Venlo/#Arnhem? Dankeschön! #fahrradtour #Reiseradler #fahrradbubble @adfc_nrw

The mess we keep making of #FOSS governance hamishcampbell.com/the-mess-we-... case studies like #Trustroots and #CouchSurfing offer insights into the complexities, and outcomes, of managing community platforms and the importance of fostering #4opens transparent

The mess we keep making of #FO...

The mess we keep making of #FOSS governance https://hamishcampbell.com/the-mess-we-keep-making-of-foss-governance/ case studies like #Trustroots and #CouchSurfing offer insights into the complexities, and outcomes, of managing community platforms and the importance of fostering #4opens transparent, inclusive, and participatory governance to sustain healthy and thriving communities.

So some time ago someone on Mastodon posted that they're biking into Portugal from Spain. I just sent them a message saying hi, and that should they ever be passing into central rural Portugal, i offer a couch to crash, a warm shower and nice warm meals. This person is moving around all mainland europe, essentially with just their bike, a tent and a water bottle.

Some weeks later, this person who i had only exchanged with just a couple of direct msgs here on Mastodon , was resting for 2 nights at my house, having conversation and hanging out. Up to the exact moment we met we both barely knew each other's names, how we looked, what kind of people we were. I didn't even know the exact date and time they were coming.

It reminded me of the great days of when i used couchsurfing .com when it was still completely free. Circumstances changed since then, and i had stopped using it for a long time, and i believe couchsurfing.com is no longer completely free. But having a similar experience after so long, and hosting someone completely random without any transaction happening except pure faith in people's goodness, reminded me once again of the joys of opening your doors to randoms. 1/2

#couchsurfing #travel #peoplekindness #hospitality #freehospitality #anotherworldispossible #randomthoughts

Liebe #fahrradbubble,
@meganL sucht Übernachtungsmöglichkeit(en) rund um eine Reise zur #Spezialradmesse 2025 am 26. / 27. April in #lauchringen für ein paar Tage längeren Aufenthalt in der Region bspw. für einen Trip zur #ethzurich (siehe Thread). Für internationalen Austausch über unsere geliebten #Drahtesel und #spezialfahrräder sicher spannend.

#mdrza #BikeTooter #MdRddG #bikebubble #waldshuttiengen #Freiburg #schaffhausen #couchsurfing #zurich

Liebe #fahrradbubble,
@meganL sucht Übernachtungsmöglichkeit(en) rund um eine Reise zur #Spezialradmesse 2025 am 26. / 27. April in #lauchringen für ein paar Tage längeren Aufenthalt in der Region bspw. für einen Trip zur #ethzurich (siehe Thread). Für internationalen Austausch über unsere geliebten #Drahtesel und #spezialfahrräder sicher spannend.

#mdrza #BikeTooter #MdRddG #bikebubble #waldshuttiengen #Freiburg #schaffhausen #couchsurfing #zurich

Liebe #fahrradbubble,
@meganL sucht Übernachtungsmöglichkeit(en) rund um eine Reise zur #Spezialradmesse 2025 am 26. / 27. April in #lauchringen für ein paar Tage längeren Aufenthalt in der Region bspw. für einen Trip zur #ethzurich (siehe Thread). Für internationalen Austausch über unsere geliebten #Drahtesel und #spezialfahrräder sicher spannend.

#mdrza #BikeTooter #MdRddG #bikebubble #waldshuttiengen #Freiburg #schaffhausen #couchsurfing #zurich

The current path of distraction’s and #stupidindividualism are pushing the cycle of pointless noise that is feeding into our inability to focus on real change. People are busy, swept up in distractions, and pointless pursuits to be the change and challenge they need to be. It’s a cycle of complacency with a bad outcome. Agitation, anger, and disturbance are powerful motivators, but we need to focus into something meaningful, to avoid drowning in the noise, we need to focus on what’s actually going on. But, in this mess, how do we push people to grow up and focus without falling into the trap of more #blocking or just offering more distractions or ‘better bling’?

The answer is simple and #KISS, by recreating collectives. We’ve seen first hand how hyper individualism (#stupidindividualism) isolates people, leaving them powerless against larger systemic issues. Rebuilding real, engaged, and active communities is key. Movements like #OMN, #OGB, #indymediaback, and #4opens are examples of initiatives that become the change and challenge we need. These projects draw from undercurrents of ideas that we know work, combining them with the best of #openweb tech to grow from small seeds into real change.

But it’s also essential to dig at the roots of the mess: #pomo (#postmodernism) and the #deathcult (#neoliberalism), ideologies that have shaped the mess we’re in, cynicism and cutting off collective alternatives. If we don’t address these root issues, they will keep returning, and we’ll remain stuck in the same cycles of decay.

The #geekproblem is real, it’s the problem of domination and control born out of geek culture shaped by “common sense” paths. Look at the decline of the #dotcons like #failbook and Google, where #fashionista optimism gave way to corporate greed. Then look at early days of #openweb projects like #couchsurfing and #indymedia, we had healthy, thriving native cultures that weren’t obsessed with control. The key is to recognize what went wrong and build on a path that doesn’t repeat those mistakes.

What the #dotcons think the future is, from meta

The challenge is that many within geek culture can’t see the value of projects like #OMN, as it exists outside their narrow, “common sense” world-views. We need to help people see beyond the obvious, look for non-mainstream alternatives, and recognize that the solutions aren’t in the corporate web but in the decentralized, open spaces, commons, we create ourselves.

Now is the time to reboot our own media and to be wary of #fashionista agendas that hijack and dilute the change we need. The way forward is messy, organic, and rooted in collective action. What we can do:

• Agitate and Disturb: Use media, art, and culture to push people out of their comfort zones and make them question the status quo. The hashtag story is a tool to do this.
• Build Collectives: Recreate spaces where people can work together meaningfully, paths that empower communities to balance the current #stupidindividualism. The OMN are projects for this.
• Focus on the Roots: Don’t only address symptoms, dig deep into the core ideologies that keep returning and haunting us, like #pomo and the #deathcult. This website is a tool for this
• Reboot Media: We need to take back control of our media, using open technology to create alternatives that aren’t based on capitalist greed but on #KISS shared values. There is a native project for this indymediaback
• Stay Wary of Distractions: Resist the temptation of ‘better bling.’ The solution is not to make the distractions shinier, but to focus on what matters.

The path out of this mess is in part social tech, which we need to build. It’s time to grow up, pay attention, and start building the world we actually want to live in. A shovel is need to compost the current mess #OMN. But I don’t have the focus to do this, we need a crew.

The key part of this is WHO decides, this is a political and democratic issue, not a tech “problem” we need to build with this strongly in mind.

https://hamishcampbell.com/the-path-out-of-this-mess-is-in-part-social-tech-and-we-need-to-build-this-path/

#4opens #blocking #couchsurfing #deathcult #dotcons #failbook #fashionista #geekproblem #indymedia #indymediaback #KISS #neoliberalism #OGB #OMN #openweb #pomo #postmodernism #stupidindividualism

The mess we keep making of #FOSS governance

https://hamishcampbell.com/the-mess-we-keep-making-of-foss-governance/

Very frustrating when all the people you send a request on #BeWelcome don't answer. Not even reject. Just ghosting.
Very rude in my opinion 😒

#Couchsurfing

Des mutuals sont sur BeWelcome ?
Depuis la merdification de CouchSurfing dans les années 2015 (et mon incapacité matérielle d’héberger) j’avais laissé tomber ce genre de choses… mais là je prends la température, voir si ça peut m’être utile pour des prochains voyages et si je peux dépanner des gens en galère.

Si tu y es aussi, ajoute-moi en ami, c’est sympa (et c’est mieux pour la confiance) :
https://www.bewelcome.org/members/chim

#BeWelcome #CouchSurfing

The hashtag story is a way of using different hashtags to paint a picture of the current state of the world and the paths that can be taken to address the issues at hand. It involves defining each hashtag and how it relates to the larger narrative. Here is an example of a hashtag story:

#fahernista is about consumer capitalism and the negative impact it has on society, treating it as a social illness.

More http://hamishcampbell.com/2023/01/12/the-hashtag-story-shows-the-current-state-of-the-world/

The #4opens is a powerful tool to be used in grassroots tech projects to promote open-source code, open standards, open governance, and open data. It can help to ensure that the development of technology is guided by ethical considerations, and that it is focused on the needs of the community, rather than the #dotcons.

There is hope in this situation, as it is possible to take the “stupid” away from “individualism” and to embrace a more balanced and responsible form of individualism. This would involve recognizing the importance of community and the well-being of others, and taking actions that promote the well-being of society and ecology as a whole.

It is a path that may not be easy, but it is essential for creating a more equitable and sustainable society.

The hashtag #stupidindividualism is used as a critique of this form of individualism, and highlights the negative consequences it can have on society. It suggests that this form of individualism is not only detrimental to society, but also to the individuals who embrace it.

The concept of “stupid individualism” refers to a form of individualism that prioritizes personal gain and self-interest over the well-being of others and the community. It is often associated with the post-modern and neoliberal times we live in, where people are encouraged to prioritize their own needs and wants over the needs of others and ecology/society as a whole. This can lead to a lack of empathy, cooperation, and social responsibility.

The human condition does include a desire or need for blindness, as it is often easier to conform to the status quo and ignore the negative consequences of our actions, rather than to challenge them. Throughout history, there have been moments of rebellion and enlightenment, where individuals and groups have challenged the dominant social thinking and pushed for change.

The hashtags suggest that often people find meaning and build their lives in the twilight, constantly pushing away glints of light that might illuminate too strongly the social squalor and everyday cruelty that is hidden away from them in the shadows. They are blind to the negative consequences of capitalism, choose to ignore them in order to preserve their way of life.

People shape their own history and create their own reality, but they do so within the constraints of the existing social and historical conditions. People are not free to make history as they please, but are limited by the circumstances that are already in place and have been inherited from the past.

The theme is expressed by the hashtags, people are shaped by the dominant social thinking of capitalism to conform to the expectations of society, even when it is detrimental to their well-being

It’s important to remember that people are not passive recipients of social structures and institutions, and can actively shape their own consciousness and the world around them. By becoming aware of the mechanisms that shape their thoughts and beliefs, and by actively challenging the dominant social thinking, people can create a more equitable and sustainable society.

This creates a dynamic where people feel compelled to conform to the dominant social thinking, even when it is detrimental to their well-being, in order to avoid punishment and to gain reward. It can be difficult for people to break away from this dynamic and to challenge the #mainstreaming agenda because they fear the consequences of not conforming.

People choose to be blind in our “sunlight” world. One possible reason is that people are often motivated by the desire for reward and the fear of punishment. Those who conform to the dominant social thinking and push the #mainstreaming agenda may be rewarded with social acceptance, material wealth, and status. On the other hand, those who challenge the mainstreaming agenda may be punished with social rejection, financial insecurity, and marginalization.

The hashtags tell a story that people are often blind to this obverse thinking and that they block challenges to their blindness by rejecting or ignoring alternative perspectives. This can be seen as a form of self-defense mechanism to protect their current way of thinking and to avoid the discomfort of change.

People’s thoughts and beliefs are not formed independently, but are shaped by the social structures and institutions in which they live.

This idea is in the themes of the hashtags , as they all talk about how people are shaped by the dominant social thinking of capitalism, and the control and manipulation of individuals by this dominant thinking.

The hashtags suggest that the way out of this sordid story is to step away from the constant pursuit of consumer goods and services, and to reject materialism and consumerism in favour of more meaningful and fulfilling pursuits. They advocate for a simpler and more sustainable way of life, where people are not controlled or manipulated for profit and where ethical considerations are at the forefront of the development of technology.

For open-source code, open standards, and open governance.

The hashtags express a desire for a more equitable and sustainable internet. They advocate for open-source code, open standards, and open governance.

The story and world-view that these hashtags embody is a critical examination of the current state of technology, and a call for a more equitable and sustainable future.

They are a reminder of the importance of considering the impact of technology on society and individuals, and the need for ethical and responsible innovation.

The #hashtags #fahernista, #openweb, #dotcons, #4opens, #geekproblem, #techcurn, #nothingnew, #techshit and #encryptionists, all embody a similar story and world-view, which is the critique of the negative impact of technology and its development on society. They all express a concern that the #mainstreaming current state of technology is not aligned with the values of fairness, openness, and sustainability, and that it is being driven by the profit motives.

#encryptionists prioritize the use of encryption, viewing it as a way to protect privacy and security online.

The problem is that they prioritize encryption over important principles such as trust, transparency, and collaboration. These are essential for a progressive society, the idea of giving up control and building trust among groups.

This issue is then embedded in the code and becomes a problem when it leads to the creation of technology that undermines trust and cooperation.

#techshit usually happens when people do not ask whether the project is necessary or brings new value, but instead build it anyway, repeatedly.

#nothingnew this term encourages developers and creators to consider if the project they are working on is truly innovative and necessary, or if it is just a replication of something that already exists. It also highlights the importance of evaluating the impact of new technologies and products on society, and encourages developers to consider the perspectives of different stakeholders before creating new products or services.

Looking at early examples of #couchsurfing and #indymedia, as healthy of #openweb culture, they built on the principles of sharing and collaboration, and they prioritized community building and connection over profit. However, as they grew in popularity and became more mainstream, they began to face challenges such as commercialization, privacy issues and other problems that led to the decline of the community spirit that once defined them. They are examples of the “problem” of openweb culture.

#failbook and Google are examples of large tech companies that are accused of using their dominance and control over technology to exploit users and undermine society. Both companies have faced criticism for their data collection and use practices.

#4opens refers to the four principles of open source, the essentials for creating a more equitable and sustainable internet. A tool that can guide us towards a better, more humane path, promoting transparency and collaboration. They give us the power to JUDGE the technology we use and the companies that provide it to decide whether they align with our values and interests. In this way, 4opens are a source of power for both individuals and communities to take back control of their digital lives.

A native path out of the mess people make on the #openweb

The Open Governance Body (#OGB) describes a permissionless process/structure that is open and allows the group that forms using the tools to decide who is a part of the group or not. This process can divide into a web of connecting instances of governance as a natural human process of group formation. The #OGB emphasizes that there is no exclusion and always diversity, making it a natural fit for the #fediverse.

The #OGB also shows that if people are stupid and focused on individualism, each governance instance will have one member and no power. To gain power, people have to work together, which is built into the code. The #OGB emphasizes that hoarding power is limited, and it flows through the community, energizing and solidifying the community and building horizontal power to challenge/change vertical power.

The #OGB focus is on the importance of keeping things simple (#KISS) and that some people will try to push for existing power structures before democracy. However, as the process is permissionless, it is not possible to stop them from doing this. The #OGB emphasizes the need to do better, and that being native to the #fediverse is a big help in this regard.

The #OGB emphasizes the importance of recognizing where power comes from in the context of the #fediverse. The fediverse operates differently from corporations, governments, courts, and police, and it is important to think and build with this difference rather than trying to drag the fediverse back to the #mainstreaming path.

The #OGB builds from the #fediverse works because it is different, and it is easy to forget this important thing when #mainstreaming agendas grab and hold. The #OGB suggests that the missing question in almost all conversations is “who are we empowering,” and emphasizes the need to do better in alt-tech.

The #OGB notes that there are problems in alt-tech and suggests that starting with the #4opens would remove 90% of the mess, revealing the real potential for good outcomes. The #OGB highlights that doing better in alt-tech would involve using shovels to make compost and planting seeds of the world we want to see.

The #OGB describes the process scaffolding for the governance body as a default effect, where the decisions on how things work will be up to the members of the body. The power of the governance body is only the power of default, and the #OGB is about removing all hard default choices and building in a small number of KISS tools, then letting the body members work out themselves how to use them.

The #OGB uses the example of #Couchsurfing, where the website redesign removed the #DIY tools active Couchsurfers had used to self-organize, leading to disappointment among members. The #OGB argues that letting members make their own process, open vs. closed, is necessary to overcome the #geekproblem and have hope for alt-tech.

The #OGB builds governance with the way, rules, norms, and actions are structured, sustained, regulated, and held accountable. this is to mediate that the #Fediverse currently has a “herding cats” governance, denoting a futile attempt to control or organize a class of entities that are inherently uncontrollable.

The #OGB codebase is not just a tool for the #Fediverse, but it can be used to democratically run any structures that have stakeholders.

The #OGB provides an example of how the codebase can be used to run a local street market, with each stallholder as a stakeholder, people who shop at the market as users, and the local council, events company, and shop owner’s association as affiliate groups. The #OGB approach and codebase will scale sideways, with street markets governed city-wide, and each of the markets becoming a stakeholder, users as users, and city-wide orgs and groups as affiliate groups.

The #OGB shaping of the “body” comes from a long history/experience of horizontal activism, where “those who do the work have more say.” https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy

The #OGB pushes that the bulk of the voice comes from those who run the #Fediverse, the people who run/support the instances. The people who build the tools also get a say, as do support orgs and events, and the users who will be spread widely get a say, but their power is diluted by the much larger numbers involved.

This working practice comes from 30 years of building from The Tyranny of Structureless tick box list https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/03.-The-Tyranny-of-Stucturelessness That code being quite “anti-human” is an interesting challenge, and it’s important to figure out how to get the humane “mess” in a coding process that is based on being “exact” and in control #OGB

The #OGB project is grounded in lived experience, and it’s a way out of this mess. We cannot keep using traditional institutions. We have to stop the #techcurn if we are going to use #openweb tech for social/ecological change/challenge, and we need to think about this now.

The #OGB project is about developing better ways of having “trust” based conversations and “trust” based “governance” in the #openweb. The project is built from hundreds of years of on the ground organizing that has shaped every “freedom” we enjoy and is done in a #KISS approach. The #OGB is a #fedivers native way of working, NOT a #mainstreaming way, and it comes from directly working, setting up, and solving recurring problems at hundreds of direct action protest camps.

The #OGB focus on what we know works, as at the moment, almost nothing works for social good. The #OGB project is what is needed, a voluntary cooperative and collaborative alliance that is native to the #fediverse.

The thinking is that we need to put a stop to the #techchurn as we have piles of #techshit already to compost, that #nothingnew is a hashtag for this.

It’s not the goal of the #OGB project to create an organization that tells everyone what protocols and standards to use in the #fediverse. The #OGB project is about developing better ways of having good “trust” based conversations and “trust” based “governance” in the #openweb

To sum up, the current working models of “governance” in open-source projects are monarchy, aristocracy and oligarchy. This is the rock star developer, the coders and the funders. It should be obverse to anyone that 99.99% of people are missing from this feudalistic ideal of “governance”.

Democracy is the basic foundation of our shared modernity.

WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS MESS IN TECH?

Let’s take a different path, please #OGB

Q. that is an optimistic projection

A. I have no illusion that the normal shitty behaver of fucking people over and being a prat will happen, but the codebase is designed to mediate this crap behaver for better outcomes 🙂

#OGB “permissionless” is an important word that needs some thought. The body is made up of three different, balanced groups: stakeholders, users, and affiliate stakeholders. Anybody can become a stakeholder by setting up and running an active instance, and users are self-explanatory. That affiliate stakeholders are a little more complex and are treated differently, and it’s up to the body itself to decide if they play an active and useful role.

That nothing in this is top-down, elitist, discriminatory, or undemocratic, and it’s #KISS and looks safe to the “normal world” while being native to the #fediverse and its roots. All the coding is #4opens, based on #activertypub.

With #OGB, it’s important not to get lost in the #processgeeks and their dogmatic love of #formalconsensus, as that’s a dead end and has been for the 30 years of activism and coding tech. It’s important to keep the #OGB both #KISS and human, understandable. The #OGB is native “governance” and federates in the same way as the projects it “governs”. That this approach is counterintuitive to mainstream ideas and “common sense,” but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

This approach has worked to some extent, as seen in the “#Fediverse” as a living example, working to scale small to bigger. There will be lots of “smoke,” and help is needed to keep the project clear of this mess. We have to overcome our #stupidindividualism to have a hope of a better world.

#OGB To remind you that the need for “governance” came out of a practical problem where the #activitypub community is made up of “cats” who were doing seminars outreach to powerful #EU Eurocrats on why they should be interested in #activertypub. #OGB is designed to be messy and not tidy, and it’s a “governance” of a disorganization, not a traditional power structure. “governance” can cooperate with more formal models of governance like traditional cooperatives.

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