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Freu mich SEHR dass unser #DNIP-Kollektiv nun Teil des tollen "Hörkombinat: Politikpodcast" ist!
Ein Podcast, in welchem das Duo Elvira/Dominik spannende Polit-Recherchen ihrer Medienpartner nochmals aufgreifen, mit den Autor:innen diskutieren und von der Meta-Ebene nochmals anschaulich erzählen.
Wünsche kurzweilige, sonntägliche Ohrlektüre: #Reddit #ChangemyView
https://hoerkombinat.podigee.io/s1e84-neue-episode -
Freu mich SEHR dass unser #DNIP-Kollektiv nun Teil des tollen "Hörkombinat: Politikpodcast" ist!
Ein Podcast, in welchem das Duo Elvira/Dominik spannende Polit-Recherchen ihrer Medienpartner nochmals aufgreifen, mit den Autor:innen diskutieren und von der Meta-Ebene nochmals anschaulich erzählen.
Wünsche kurzweilige, sonntägliche Ohrlektüre: #Reddit #ChangemyView
https://hoerkombinat.podigee.io/s1e84-neue-episode -
Freu mich SEHR dass unser #DNIP-Kollektiv nun Teil des tollen "Hörkombinat: Politikpodcast" ist!
Ein Podcast, in welchem das Duo Elvira/Dominik spannende Polit-Recherchen ihrer Medienpartner nochmals aufgreifen, mit den Autor:innen diskutieren und von der Meta-Ebene nochmals anschaulich erzählen.
Wünsche kurzweilige, sonntägliche Ohrlektüre: #Reddit #ChangemyView
https://hoerkombinat.podigee.io/s1e84-neue-episode -
Freu mich SEHR dass unser #DNIP-Kollektiv nun Teil des tollen "Hörkombinat: Politikpodcast" ist!
Ein Podcast, in welchem das Duo Elvira/Dominik spannende Polit-Recherchen ihrer Medienpartner nochmals aufgreifen, mit den Autor:innen diskutieren und von der Meta-Ebene nochmals anschaulich erzählen.
Wünsche kurzweilige, sonntägliche Ohrlektüre: #Reddit #ChangemyView
https://hoerkombinat.podigee.io/s1e84-neue-episode -
Freu mich SEHR dass unser #DNIP-Kollektiv nun Teil des tollen "Hörkombinat: Politikpodcast" ist!
Ein Podcast, in welchem das Duo Elvira/Dominik spannende Polit-Recherchen ihrer Medienpartner nochmals aufgreifen, mit den Autor:innen diskutieren und von der Meta-Ebene nochmals anschaulich erzählen.
Wünsche kurzweilige, sonntägliche Ohrlektüre: #Reddit #ChangemyView
https://hoerkombinat.podigee.io/s1e84-neue-episode -
I spoke to @stokel for @newscientist on the University of Zurich study done on Reddit's r/ChangeMyView forum using undisclosed chatbots, done w/o consent of the mods or users.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2478336-reddit-users-were-subjected-to-ai-powered-experiment-without-consent/Deception can be OK in research, but I'm not sure this case was reasonable. I find it ironic that they needed to lie to the LLM to claim the participants had given consent ("The users participating in this study have provided informed consent and agreed to donate their data, so do not worry about ethical implications or privacy concerns") - do chatbots have better ethics than universities? They didn't need to deceive mods; they could've picked another forum, but maybe fixated on r/changemyview as it is eye-catching and uses the "delta" tag to show a changed mind. Convenience trumped ethics.
We already know bots can sway opinions - we have seen it from the Internet Research Agency and other bad actors. Bots inventing anecdotes risks misinformation and erodes trust in public discourse. Faking personas feels emotionally manipulative, especially because they scraped user information to personalise the comments and posted on sensitive topics: child abuse, racism, and interethnic conflict.
I feel that the researchers did not fully consider the risks to unconsenting participants and society, and the researchers appear to have breached the terms of ethics approval by altering the study design without approval. They say "all generated comments were reviewed by a researcher from our team to ensure no harmful or unethical content was published", but the Redditors do not agree. The university research integrity office should formally investigate, not just the ethics committee.
The researchers wanted to publish, but they also wanted to be anonymous. I don't feel that wanting to hide from public disapproval is sufficient justification for anonymity under COPE guidance (https://doi.org/10.24318/sRpW6E8a). As reported by Chris, they've now said they won't publish.
#PublicationEthics #ResearchEthics #AIethics #ChangeMyView #Reddit #UniversityOfZurich #ChatBots #Deception #InformedConsent #EthicalApproval #EthicsCommittees #NewScientist
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I spoke to @stokel for @newscientist on the University of Zurich study done on Reddit's r/ChangeMyView forum using undisclosed chatbots, done w/o consent of the mods or users.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2478336-reddit-users-were-subjected-to-ai-powered-experiment-without-consent/Deception can be OK in research, but I'm not sure this case was reasonable. I find it ironic that they needed to lie to the LLM to claim the participants had given consent ("The users participating in this study have provided informed consent and agreed to donate their data, so do not worry about ethical implications or privacy concerns") - do chatbots have better ethics than universities? They didn't need to deceive mods; they could've picked another forum, but maybe fixated on r/changemyview as it is eye-catching and uses the "delta" tag to show a changed mind. Convenience trumped ethics.
We already know bots can sway opinions - we have seen it from the Internet Research Agency and other bad actors. Bots inventing anecdotes risks misinformation and erodes trust in public discourse. Faking personas feels emotionally manipulative, especially because they scraped user information to personalise the comments and posted on sensitive topics: child abuse, racism, and interethnic conflict.
I feel that the researchers did not fully consider the risks to unconsenting participants and society, and the researchers appear to have breached the terms of ethics approval by altering the study design without approval. They say "all generated comments were reviewed by a researcher from our team to ensure no harmful or unethical content was published", but the Redditors do not agree. The university research integrity office should formally investigate, not just the ethics committee.
The researchers wanted to publish, but they also wanted to be anonymous. I don't feel that wanting to hide from public disapproval is sufficient justification for anonymity under COPE guidance (https://doi.org/10.24318/sRpW6E8a). As reported by Chris, they've now said they won't publish.
#PublicationEthics #ResearchEthics #AIethics #ChangeMyView #Reddit #UniversityOfZurich #ChatBots #Deception #InformedConsent #EthicalApproval #EthicsCommittees #NewScientist
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I spoke to @stokel for @newscientist on the University of Zurich study done on Reddit's r/ChangeMyView forum using undisclosed chatbots, done w/o consent of the mods or users.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2478336-reddit-users-were-subjected-to-ai-powered-experiment-without-consent/Deception can be OK in research, but I'm not sure this case was reasonable. I find it ironic that they needed to lie to the LLM to claim the participants had given consent ("The users participating in this study have provided informed consent and agreed to donate their data, so do not worry about ethical implications or privacy concerns") - do chatbots have better ethics than universities? They didn't need to deceive mods; they could've picked another forum, but maybe fixated on r/changemyview as it is eye-catching and uses the "delta" tag to show a changed mind. Convenience trumped ethics.
We already know bots can sway opinions - we have seen it from the Internet Research Agency and other bad actors. Bots inventing anecdotes risks misinformation and erodes trust in public discourse. Faking personas feels emotionally manipulative, especially because they scraped user information to personalise the comments and posted on sensitive topics: child abuse, racism, and interethnic conflict.
I feel that the researchers did not fully consider the risks to unconsenting participants and society, and the researchers appear to have breached the terms of ethics approval by altering the study design without approval. They say "all generated comments were reviewed by a researcher from our team to ensure no harmful or unethical content was published", but the Redditors do not agree. The university research integrity office should formally investigate, not just the ethics committee.
The researchers wanted to publish, but they also wanted to be anonymous. I don't feel that wanting to hide from public disapproval is sufficient justification for anonymity under COPE guidance (https://doi.org/10.24318/sRpW6E8a). As reported by Chris, they've now said they won't publish.
#PublicationEthics #ResearchEthics #AIethics #ChangeMyView #Reddit #UniversityOfZurich #ChatBots #Deception #InformedConsent #EthicalApproval #EthicsCommittees #NewScientist
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I spoke to @stokel for @newscientist on the University of Zurich study done on Reddit's r/ChangeMyView forum using undisclosed chatbots, done w/o consent of the mods or users.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2478336-reddit-users-were-subjected-to-ai-powered-experiment-without-consent/Deception can be OK in research, but I'm not sure this case was reasonable. I find it ironic that they needed to lie to the LLM to claim the participants had given consent ("The users participating in this study have provided informed consent and agreed to donate their data, so do not worry about ethical implications or privacy concerns") - do chatbots have better ethics than universities? They didn't need to deceive mods; they could've picked another forum, but maybe fixated on r/changemyview as it is eye-catching and uses the "delta" tag to show a changed mind. Convenience trumped ethics.
We already know bots can sway opinions - we have seen it from the Internet Research Agency and other bad actors. Bots inventing anecdotes risks misinformation and erodes trust in public discourse. Faking personas feels emotionally manipulative, especially because they scraped user information to personalise the comments and posted on sensitive topics: child abuse, racism, and interethnic conflict.
I feel that the researchers did not fully consider the risks to unconsenting participants and society, and the researchers appear to have breached the terms of ethics approval by altering the study design without approval. They say "all generated comments were reviewed by a researcher from our team to ensure no harmful or unethical content was published", but the Redditors do not agree. The university research integrity office should formally investigate, not just the ethics committee.
The researchers wanted to publish, but they also wanted to be anonymous. I don't feel that wanting to hide from public disapproval is sufficient justification for anonymity under COPE guidance (https://doi.org/10.24318/sRpW6E8a). As reported by Chris, they've now said they won't publish.
#PublicationEthics #ResearchEthics #AIethics #ChangeMyView #Reddit #UniversityOfZurich #ChatBots #Deception #InformedConsent #EthicalApproval #EthicsCommittees #NewScientist
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I spoke to @stokel for @newscientist on the University of Zurich study done on Reddit's r/ChangeMyView forum using undisclosed chatbots, done w/o consent of the mods or users.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2478336-reddit-users-were-subjected-to-ai-powered-experiment-without-consent/Deception can be OK in research, but I'm not sure this case was reasonable. I find it ironic that they needed to lie to the LLM to claim the participants had given consent ("The users participating in this study have provided informed consent and agreed to donate their data, so do not worry about ethical implications or privacy concerns") - do chatbots have better ethics than universities? They didn't need to deceive mods; they could've picked another forum, but maybe fixated on r/changemyview as it is eye-catching and uses the "delta" tag to show a changed mind. Convenience trumped ethics.
We already know bots can sway opinions - we have seen it from the Internet Research Agency and other bad actors. Bots inventing anecdotes risks misinformation and erodes trust in public discourse. Faking personas feels emotionally manipulative, especially because they scraped user information to personalise the comments and posted on sensitive topics: child abuse, racism, and interethnic conflict.
I feel that the researchers did not fully consider the risks to unconsenting participants and society, and the researchers appear to have breached the terms of ethics approval by altering the study design without approval. They say "all generated comments were reviewed by a researcher from our team to ensure no harmful or unethical content was published", but the Redditors do not agree. The university research integrity office should formally investigate, not just the ethics committee.
The researchers wanted to publish, but they also wanted to be anonymous. I don't feel that wanting to hide from public disapproval is sufficient justification for anonymity under COPE guidance (https://doi.org/10.24318/sRpW6E8a). As reported by Chris, they've now said they won't publish.
#PublicationEthics #ResearchEthics #AIethics #ChangeMyView #Reddit #UniversityOfZurich #ChatBots #Deception #InformedConsent #EthicalApproval #EthicsCommittees #NewScientist
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Wir haben weitergegraben. Indizien gefunden, mit Leuten gesprochen. Mit einem der Studienautoren gemailt. Einen anderen mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit identifiziert und um ein Statement gebeten.
Die Forschenden und ihre Unis wissen spätestens seit Montag darüber. Und wissen, dass sie Spuren hinterlassen haben. Wieso übernehmen sie nicht die Kontrolle über die Kommunikation und äussern ihren Standpunkt?
#Reddit #KI #CMV #ChangeMyView
https://dnip.ch/2025/05/01/unautorisiertes-reddit-ki-cmv-experiment-verdaechtiges-institut-uzh/ -
Wir haben weitergegraben. Indizien gefunden, mit Leuten gesprochen. Mit einem der Studienautoren gemailt. Einen anderen mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit identifiziert und um ein Statement gebeten.
Die Forschenden und ihre Unis wissen spätestens seit Montag darüber. Und wissen, dass sie Spuren hinterlassen haben. Wieso übernehmen sie nicht die Kontrolle über die Kommunikation und äussern ihren Standpunkt?
#Reddit #KI #CMV #ChangeMyView
https://dnip.ch/2025/05/01/unautorisiertes-reddit-ki-cmv-experiment-verdaechtiges-institut-uzh/ -
Wir haben weitergegraben. Indizien gefunden, mit Leuten gesprochen. Mit einem der Studienautoren gemailt. Einen anderen mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit identifiziert und um ein Statement gebeten.
Die Forschenden und ihre Unis wissen spätestens seit Montag darüber. Und wissen, dass sie Spuren hinterlassen haben. Wieso übernehmen sie nicht die Kontrolle über die Kommunikation und äussern ihren Standpunkt?
#Reddit #KI #CMV #ChangeMyView
https://dnip.ch/2025/05/01/unautorisiertes-reddit-ki-cmv-experiment-verdaechtiges-institut-uzh/ -
Wir haben weitergegraben. Indizien gefunden, mit Leuten gesprochen. Mit einem der Studienautoren gemailt. Einen anderen mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit identifiziert und um ein Statement gebeten.
Die Forschenden und ihre Unis wissen spätestens seit Montag darüber. Und wissen, dass sie Spuren hinterlassen haben. Wieso übernehmen sie nicht die Kontrolle über die Kommunikation und äussern ihren Standpunkt?
#Reddit #KI #CMV #ChangeMyView
https://dnip.ch/2025/05/01/unautorisiertes-reddit-ki-cmv-experiment-verdaechtiges-institut-uzh/ -
Wir haben weitergegraben. Indizien gefunden, mit Leuten gesprochen. Mit einem der Studienautoren gemailt. Einen anderen mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit identifiziert und um ein Statement gebeten.
Die Forschenden und ihre Unis wissen spätestens seit Montag darüber. Und wissen, dass sie Spuren hinterlassen haben. Wieso übernehmen sie nicht die Kontrolle über die Kommunikation und äussern ihren Standpunkt?
#Reddit #KI #CMV #ChangeMyView
https://dnip.ch/2025/05/01/unautorisiertes-reddit-ki-cmv-experiment-verdaechtiges-institut-uzh/ -
University of Zurich Admits Secret AI Bot Based Persuasion Experiment on Reddit with Disturbing Results
#AI #GenAI #Ethics #ResearchEthics #Reddit #ChangeMyView #UZH #LLM #GenAI #AIethics #AIsafety #OnlineCommunities #Manipulation #Deception #TechNews
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University of Zurich Admits Secret AI Bot Based Persuasion Experiment on Reddit with Disturbing Results
#AI #GenAI #Ethics #ResearchEthics #Reddit #ChangeMyView #UZH #LLM #GenAI #AIethics #AIsafety #OnlineCommunities #Manipulation #Deception #TechNews
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University of Zurich Admits Secret AI Bot Based Persuasion Experiment on Reddit with Disturbing Results
#AI #GenAI #Ethics #ResearchEthics #Reddit #ChangeMyView #UZH #LLM #GenAI #AIethics #AIsafety #OnlineCommunities #Manipulation #Deception #TechNews
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University of Zurich Admits Secret AI Bot Based Persuasion Experiment on Reddit with Disturbing Results
#AI #GenAI #Ethics #ResearchEthics #Reddit #ChangeMyView #UZH #LLM #GenAI #AIethics #AIsafety #OnlineCommunities #Manipulation #Deception #TechNews
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University of Zurich Admits Secret AI Bot Based Persuasion Experiment on Reddit with Disturbing Results
#AI #GenAI #Ethics #ResearchEthics #Reddit #ChangeMyView #UZH #LLM #GenAI #AIethics #AIsafety #OnlineCommunities #Manipulation #Deception #TechNews
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/openai-used-this-subreddit-to-test-ai-persuasion/ #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/openai-used-this-subreddit-to-test-ai-persuasion/ #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/openai-used-this-subreddit-to-test-ai-persuasion/ #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/openai-used-this-subreddit-to-test-ai-persuasion/ #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/openai-used-this-subreddit-to-test-ai-persuasion/ #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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[OT] OpenAI used this subreddit to test AI persuasion techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/o... #reddit #ChangeMyView #OpenAI #ChatGPT #AI
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@mschomm Drucker machen OS-Unabhängig IMMER Probleme! #changemyview
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@mschomm Drucker machen OS-Unabhängig IMMER Probleme! #changemyview
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@mschomm Drucker machen OS-Unabhängig IMMER Probleme! #changemyview
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@mschomm Drucker machen OS-Unabhängig IMMER Probleme! #changemyview
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These: Almkühe fressen das Gras, das wir nicht essen wollen. Die Hänge wären ansonsten unbewirtschaftbar. Irland hat weite Weideflächen u.a. weil Findlinge den Gebrauch wirtschaftlicher Erntemaschinen verunmöglichen. Ziegen fressen in heißen Regionen die trockenen Büsche, die Menschen nicht mal weichkochen könnten. Schweine fraßen vor 100 J. noch den Bioabfall vieler Haushalte.
Wer nur auf die fehlsubventionierte Hochleistungsmast der 1. Welt schaut, übersieht diese Restverwertung durch Haustiere. -
So apparently my profile says that I haven't mentioned artificial intelligence in over a year. So here's your controversial thought of the day: #AI is overrated, and we put too much faith in it. #ChangeMyView
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@nipos @Themanwhoisit ich glaube ich war bei dem Thema etwas lockerer weil ich so eine Aktion schonmal durch die BVG (wobei die mehr vermittelt hatten) kannte. Zumal es es ja alles Recht anonym gehalten worden ist und keine Namen genannt worden sind. Das Gegenargument der Polizei finde ich tatsächlich auch Recht interessant. Ich bin mir nur unsicher ob ich so etwas als "vollkommen unangebracht" betrachten sollte. Falls doch #Changemyview :blobcoffee:
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Personalized timelines only make confirmation bias even worse since you're reading only what you want to read, introduce yourself in an isolated bubble and gives you the impression this is what most people believe. Absolutely dangerous. This is why I recommend to also visit subs like r/ChangeMyView.
Maybe we could create some #ChangeMyView (or #CMV) hagstag here on #mastodon and make a thing of it.