#securejoin — Public Fediverse posts

In 2014 @matthew_d_green wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/

We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)

- Key management is automatic through #securejoin and #autocrypt protos

- #chatmail relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption.

- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon.

One to go? ;)

In 2014 @matthew_d_green wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/

We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)

- Key management is automatic through #securejoin and #autocrypt protos

- #chatmail relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption.

- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon.

One to go? ;)

In 2014 @matthew_d_green wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/

We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)

- Key management is automatic through #securejoin and #autocrypt protos

- #chatmail relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption.

- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon.

One to go? ;)

In 2014 @matthew_d_green wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/

We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)

- Key management is automatic through #securejoin and #autocrypt protos

- #chatmail relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption.

- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon.

One to go? ;)

In 2014 @matthew_d_green wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/

We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)

- Key management is automatic through #securejoin and #autocrypt protos

- #chatmail relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption.

- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon.

One to go? ;)

Public service announcement:

1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".

2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.

3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜

Public service announcement:

1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".

2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.

3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜

Public service announcement:

1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".

2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.

3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜

Public service announcement:

1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".

2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.

3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜

Public service announcement:

1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".

2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.

3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜

Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)

Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)

Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)

Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)

Isn't it poetic and ironic that out of all possible time lines we are in one where #securejoin #openpgp protocols on top of the existing #email protocols offer the arguably most solidly scaling, useable, world-wide federated end-to-end encrypted messaging reality, safe against compromised #mitm servers? Hundreds of billions spend to create "the email successor" and here we are in 2025 .... #interoperable #email and #cryptography as the tortoise looking at Achilles through the back mirror :)

@obsoleszenz @mntmn actually security is stronger with #securejoin protocols but Minute already said primary concern is not security. So if it's down to usability and versatility and reliability then trying out delta for your comms might indeed be worthwhile. There also are #webxdc apps which can be good for a shared calendar, checklists or shared notes in any chat. Happy to answer any questions as several of us are following your MNT project with interest.

@obsoleszenz @mntmn actually security is stronger with #securejoin protocols but Minute already said primary concern is not security. So if it's down to usability and versatility and reliability then trying out delta for your comms might indeed be worthwhile. There also are #webxdc apps which can be good for a shared calendar, checklists or shared notes in any chat. Happy to answer any questions as several of us are following your MNT project with interest.

@obsoleszenz @mntmn actually security is stronger with #securejoin protocols but Minute already said primary concern is not security. So if it's down to usability and versatility and reliability then trying out delta for your comms might indeed be worthwhile. There also are #webxdc apps which can be good for a shared calendar, checklists or shared notes in any chat. Happy to answer any questions as several of us are following your MNT project with interest.

@obsoleszenz @mntmn actually security is stronger with #securejoin protocols but Minute already said primary concern is not security. So if it's down to usability and versatility and reliability then trying out delta for your comms might indeed be worthwhile. There also are #webxdc apps which can be good for a shared calendar, checklists or shared notes in any chat. Happy to answer any questions as several of us are following your MNT project with interest.

@obsoleszenz @mntmn actually security is stronger with #securejoin protocols but Minute already said primary concern is not security. So if it's down to usability and versatility and reliability then trying out delta for your comms might indeed be worthwhile. There also are #webxdc apps which can be good for a shared calendar, checklists or shared notes in any chat. Happy to answer any questions as several of us are following your MNT project with interest.

@hund @coffe I think #DeltaChat using #Autocrypt and #Securejoin may have solved many of the usability issues with #pgp.

@hund @coffe I think #DeltaChat using #Autocrypt and #Securejoin may have solved many of the usability issues with #pgp.

@hund @coffe I think #DeltaChat using #Autocrypt and #Securejoin may have solved many of the usability issues with #pgp.

@hund @coffe I think #DeltaChat using #Autocrypt and #Securejoin may have solved many of the usability issues with #pgp.

@hund @coffe I think #DeltaChat using #Autocrypt and #Securejoin may have solved many of the usability issues with #pgp.

If you want to dive deep into guaranteed end-to-end encryption and how green checkmarks protect against compromised servers ("MITM attacks"), the "Cryptographic Analysis of Delta Chat" from Applied Cryptography researchers at ETH Zuerich has been published at https://eprint.iacr.org/2024/918.pdf -- earlier this year we had blogged from our side how we addressed all findings https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

#securejoin #deltachat

If you want to dive deep into guaranteed end-to-end encryption and how green checkmarks protect against compromised servers ("MITM attacks"), the "Cryptographic Analysis of Delta Chat" from Applied Cryptography researchers at ETH Zuerich has been published at https://eprint.iacr.org/2024/918.pdf -- earlier this year we had blogged from our side how we addressed all findings https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

#securejoin #deltachat

If you want to dive deep into guaranteed end-to-end encryption and how green checkmarks protect against compromised servers ("MITM attacks"), the "Cryptographic Analysis of Delta Chat" from Applied Cryptography researchers at ETH Zuerich has been published at https://eprint.iacr.org/2024/918.pdf -- earlier this year we had blogged from our side how we addressed all findings https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

#securejoin #deltachat

If you want to dive deep into guaranteed end-to-end encryption and how green checkmarks protect against compromised servers ("MITM attacks"), the "Cryptographic Analysis of Delta Chat" from Applied Cryptography researchers at ETH Zuerich has been published at https://eprint.iacr.org/2024/918.pdf -- earlier this year we had blogged from our side how we addressed all findings https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

#securejoin #deltachat

If you want to dive deep into guaranteed end-to-end encryption and how green checkmarks protect against compromised servers ("MITM attacks"), the "Cryptographic Analysis of Delta Chat" from Applied Cryptography researchers at ETH Zuerich has been published at https://eprint.iacr.org/2024/918.pdf -- earlier this year we had blogged from our side how we addressed all findings https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

#securejoin #deltachat

Delta Chat has "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven

Delta Chat has "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven

Delta Chat has "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven

Delta Chat has "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven

Delta Chat has "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven