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  1. @CdnCurmudgeon

    youtube.com/watch?v=8rS3fTbC7TE
    SpaceX is targeting a $1.75 trillion valuation for what could be the largest IPO in history. SpaceNazi Elon Musk is folding a money-burning AI startup and a struggling social media platform into a rocket company to justify a price tag that defies financial gravity.

    #SpaceX #IPO #Ponzi ? maybe

  2. Can you have PE if there is no E or negative E?

    If a startup never makes money, will applying higher multiple for scaling/hyper scaling make it bigger or lesser negative?

    If startup has negative operating cashflow since inception, can it even be considered a legitimate business?

    #AIPonzi #Ponzi #Scam #Fraud #AI

  3. AI valuation is a fraud.

    If a startup is burning cash and never makes money, wont applying higher multiple in the name of scaling/hyper scaling make that even bigger negative value?

    Whose interests is being served by pushing such flimsy numbers?

    #Fraud #AI #Scam #Ponzi

  4. How can startups with negative operating cashflow since inception have valuations?

    Can they even be considered legitimate businesses?

    #Scam #Fraud #Finance #Ponzi #AI #Startups

  5. Ok @quinta, ma l'#Europa cosa dovrebbe fare secondo te? Buttarsi in quelli che, più che bolle, somigliano a schemi #Ponzi?

    Da documenti processuali emerge la verità sul fatturato e sui costi reali di #Anthropic – Quinta’s weblog
    blog.quintarelli.it/2026/03/da

  6. ⬆️ @Stinson_108

    Of course I don't believe any words coming out the mouths of the #Trump Administration, but oftentimes, it is their body language and tone of delivery that gives the game away.

    Look in the thread for the body language of #Bessent when he makes a circular motion to explain the $20B #DFC "circular" #insurance program as a #Ponzi scheme to profit from when #Lloyds declares #ForceMajeure and refuses to pay for ships and cargo lost in the #StraitOfHormuz.

  7. ⬆️ @Stinson_108

    Of course I don't believe any words coming out the mouths of the #Trump Administration, but oftentimes, it is their body language and tone of delivery that gives the game away.

    Look in the thread for the body language of #Bessent when he makes a circular motion to explain the $20B #DFC "circular" #insurance program as a #Ponzi scheme to profit from when #Lloyds declares #ForceMajeure and refuses to pay for ships and cargo lost in the #StraitOfHormuz.

  8. ⬆️ @Stinson_108

    Of course I don't believe any words coming out the mouths of the #Trump Administration, but oftentimes, it is their body language and tone of delivery that gives the game away.

    Look in the thread for the body language of #Bessent when he makes a circular motion to explain the $20B #DFC "circular" #insurance program as a #Ponzi scheme to profit from when #Lloyds declares #ForceMajeure and refuses to pay for ships and cargo lost in the #StraitOfHormuz.

  9. @timrichards Great article calling out investor tax breaks as the bigger culprit in Australia’s housing mess, not migrants (it’s behind a paywall). But it misses a key real-world example: Victoria has hit investors hard with higher land taxes, lowered thresholds, vacant residential land taxes (now statewide), etc. Result? Melbourne’s median house price (~$1.06–1.11M recently) lags well behind Sydney’s (~$1.7M+), with slower growth and more first-home buyer entry. Proof that curbing investor advantages can actually tame the ponzi-like property market without killing the economy

    #auspol #negativegearing #cgt #ponzi #housingcrisis

  10. Decime #Ponzi sin decir Ponzi: «#OpenAI está próxima a cerrar la primera fase de una nueva ronda de financiación que superaría los US$100.000 millones, en lo que sería uno de los mayores acuerdos privados de capital en la historia del sector tecnológico. La inyección inicial provendría principalmente de inversores estratégicos como #Amazon (AMZN), #SoftBank, #Nvidia (NVDA) y #Microsoft (MSFT).»
    bloomberglinea.com/mercados/wa
    #Burbuja #AI #IA #LLM #deuda #capitalismo #estafa #BurbujaIA #AIbubble #bubble

  11. RE: framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/1160

    Come on, #capitalism, waste non-renewable natural resources and keep destroying our only planet in order to inflate another #Ponzi bubble and steal social wealth..., do your thing.

  12. @bloomberg @bloomberg-bloomberg #Ponzi schemes can only draw in so many suckers before they start to collapse. #bitcoin

  13. RE: mastodon.world/@bermaninstitut

    this is bullshit propaganda. #AIslop is never going to be a substitute to a good doctor; but the #EpsteinClass investing in the #AI #ponzi want to create an air of #eugenics inevitability.

    don't believe the fascist hype.

    #medicine #capitalism #fascism

  14. @workingclasshistory For some reason this toot ⬆️ about recent #history of #ponzi #economics in #Europe reminds me what Warren Buffett said: “#Bitcoin (and other #crypto currencies) is like rat poison squared.” ✅

  15. CW: NZ - liquidation - Chance Voight - Ponzi?

    The name's Whimp, Bernard Whimp.

    He was bankrupted in 1998, had a mortgage company closed by the Securities Commission in 2003, was banned from acting as a director from 2007 to 2012, and in 2010 was found by the High Court to be engaging in “misleading and deceptive” behaviour trying to fleece naive shareholders.

    In 2021 he set up the Chance Voight group - 27 companies under one umbrella, but all using just a single bank account. They've taken in $45m and not complied with investigators. The judge found the group's liabilities had exceeded its assets every year of trading.

    “The factor that I consider most significant…is that the group appears to be dependent on issuing new debt securities to raise cash to meet redemption and interest payment obligations on existing debt securities.”

    Isn't that the definition of a ponzi scheme?

    stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924281/

    #NZ #Ponzi #ChanceVoight

  16. #Bitcoin offers humanity nothing for something; that's its legacy and that's why you'll never see the kinds of gains you did in the past.

    #blockchain #crypto #ponzi #fintech #defi #scams

  17. This is such a deadpan scathing and serious takedown of crypto nonsense that you don't feel the cuts from the smashed-ceramic-sharp wit and sarcasm until a few moments later. Wonderful. 24 minutes long but give it 5 and see if it hooks you like it did me.

    youtu.be/fhsrkvEY55s

    #Ponzi #Crypto #Ludicrous

  18. "El lunes no hay bancos porque hace 2000 años, en un pueblito en medio del desierto, un chanta le dijo a un grupito de crédulos que a una fulana la había embarazado una paloma o algo así, y el cuentito prendió, y los chantas y los crédulos no pararon de multiplicarse...", y se preguntan por qué no nos visitan civilizaciones más avanzadas.
    #argentina #religión #civilización #historia #ciencia #oscurantismo #scifi #oscurantismo #sociología #ponzi #estafa

  19. Subject: "Wall Street AIs" rumors

    "$619 Billion Ponzi Scheme" is a reference to a well-known AI funding loop issue. The attached related illustration is from Bloomberg, so Bloomberg can be considered to be a source for the underlying allegations.

    The new part is rumors that seem to be spreading. One version of the rumors is that "Wall Street AIs" flagged an NVidia funding loop, or "circular financing", in the last few days and warned that a collapse of NVidia might be imminent.

    The "circular financing" part is true. However, I see no evidence yet that the "Wall Street AIs" part or anything else unusual has just happened. The rumors seem to have started because of fluctuations in NVidia's stock price.

    Bloggers are commenting as quoted below on the "circular financing" issue. Some of the posts out there talk as though something new has happened, but so far there is no evidence of that. The phrase "Ponzi Scheme" is used on multiple sites and I feel that the phrase is reasonable in context.

    "While the accounting anomalies are worrying, the very structure of the current AI economy looks increasingly like a sophisticated Ponzi scheme, or at the very least, a vast system of “Round-Tripping” (circular revenue)."

    https://aiquantumcomputing.substack.com/p/the-nvidia-illusion-why-the-ai-giant

    "NVIDIA invested $2 billion in xAI, xAI borrowed $12.5 billion to buy NVIDIA chips; Microsoft invested $13 billion in OpenAI, with OpenAI committing to purchase $50 billion of Azure, leading Microsoft to place a $100 billion order with NVIDIA; Oracle provided OpenAI with a $300 billion cloud credit, and OpenAI in turn bought NVIDIA chips for Oracle. The same money was repeatedly counted as revenue, yet cash never actually materialized."

    https://en.bitpush.news/articles/8287781

    "Here’s where it gets criminal. Nvidia gave $2 billion to xAI. xAI borrowed $12.5 billion to buy Nvidia chips. Microsoft gave OpenAI $13 billion. OpenAI committed $50 billion to buy Microsoft cloud. Microsoft ordered $100 billion in Nvidia chips for that cloud. Oracle gave OpenAI $300 billion in cloud credits. OpenAI ordered Nvidia chips for Oracle data centers. The same dollars circle through different companies and get counted as revenue multiple times. Nvidia books sales, but nobody actually pays. The bills age. The inventory piles up. The cash never comes... The AI companies in order to make it look good, they are cooking the books!"

    https://johnsonwkchoi.com/2025/11/22/breaking-the-610-billion-ai-ponzi-scheme-just-collapsed/

    #OpenAI #NVidia #Ponzi
  20. the UK's Solicitors Regulation Authority is prosecuting one of the UK's more infamous libel law firms (Carter Ruck) for silencing critics of the massive OneCoin ponzi scheme (2nd only to madoff) that imploded back in 2017.

    sadly there's a million other cases of Big Law firms openly aiding and abetting out and out frauds that will go unpunished, but it's nice to see at least some kind of minimal attempt at justice

    (the story of OneCoin is completely insane; worth a read if you haven't run across it before)

    taxpolicy.org.uk/2023/12/18/ca

    #uk #ukpol #carterRuck #libel #OneCoin #RujaIgnatova #ponzi #ponziScheme #eupol #bulgaria #FCA #SRA #BigLaw #law #lawstodon #PrivateEye

  21. #SCTP 29 - What does it take to admit we're wrong about #bitcoin and #crypto? This is a super simple question and answer that most crypto bros want to ignore....

    #ponzi #fintech #finance #economy

  22. #MSTR is so heavily leveraged it's like watching a glass house being built next to a ball bearing factory.

    #bitcoin #crypto #ponzi #fintech #finance #economy

  23. Latest episode has dropped: ioRadio.org

    I speak with a crypto dev who has "left the cult" and he talks about what he saw and what's wrong with the industry.

    #crypto #bitcoin #blockchain #eth #tech #dev #cryptoReality #btc #trumpcoin #ponzi #scams #podcast

  24. Almost without fail, every service that touches creeptocurrencies goes into a decline.

    Don't expect Proton to make virtuous ethical choices anytime soon, especially now that Trump joined the cult. Once the greed bug has bitten, making a profit supersedes delivering a good product as the primary objective.

    arscyni.cc/file/crypto_cult_sc

    fosstodon.org/@stardust/112404

    @Xavier @protonprivacy