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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate, union busting allegation against avi lewis
I ended up watching some of the Q&A after the NDP leadership debate. Interestingly, @avilewis was asked about an allegation which I hadn't heard before: that he obstructed and undermined the employee union at The Leap, the climate advocacy organization which he co-founded.
(edit: He is asked about it at 2:01:16 in the CPAC video of the debate and subsequent Q&A, it's the question from David Thurton at the CBC)
I found the reporting which was the source of the allegation: https://provincialtimes.ca/exclusive-did-an-ndp-leadership-candidate-bust-his-own-workers-union/
The main facts stated are:
1) Workers at The Leap obtained certification for a union in June 2020. (https://theleap.org/the-leap-workers-vote-to-join-cupe/)
2) Despite the union being certified, no progress on bargaining or reaching a collective agreement with the union ever occurred, for 9 months.
3) In March 2021, The Leap shut down. One of the cited reasons was the departure of Lewis. (https://theleap.org/closing-statement/)
4) In March 2021, 6 days after The Leap shut down, The Breach, a progressive news organization, launched.
5) Lewis would go on to become a prominent contributor to The Breach.
6) Notably, The Breach to this day remains a non-unionized newsroom.The main allegation is that Lewis took part in "union avoidance", specifically "an employer delaying bargaining until an organization closes, only to re-emerge in a non-union form."
In light of my reading I wasn't impressed with Lewis' answer, because he only pointed to the initial certification of the union in June, and never addressed the substance of the allegation: that he and other management deliberately delayed any progress towards an actual collective agreement before the organization shut down. I think that anyone who purports to care about unionization should be familiar with the "don't give anything substantive to the union, stall until the business shuts down" tactic that employers use. It's kind of 101 level union avoidance stuff.
I also have a very low opinion of The Breach as a newsroom, because they have a recurring pattern of publishing pieces that are indistinguishable from Russian and Chinese propaganda. For example, these articles that are basically bottom of the barrel scraping, lurid personal attacks on Chrystia Freeland, which use a line of attack ("her grandfather was a nazi!!1!!1") that is completely the same as what Russian state media says:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250922055414/https://breachmedia.ca/chrystia-freelands-denials-grandfather-complicit-nazi-genocide/
https://web.archive.org/web/20250821034722/https://breachmedia.ca/foreign-policy-without-diplomacy-will-be-freelands-legacy/Or these articles that try as hard as they possibly can using scraps of circumstantial evidence to deny that Chinese interference in Canadian politics took place, while very conveniently ignoring the Chinese diaspora who have actual first-hand experience with PRC transnational repression and interference:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250611194539/https://breachmedia.ca/no-traitors-cost-of-baseless-reporting-chinese-interference/
https://web.archive.org/web/20250828165825/https://breachmedia.ca/china-interference-canada/(I left an angry comment on the first article lmao)
Edit: Just noticed another article by The Breach which brings up really good concerns about Poilievre's hypocrisy in helping his uncle-in-law's asylum application while advocating against asylum seeker. The thing is though: They then completely taint the reporting by implying that his uncle-in-law was lying about his reasons for seeking asylum (detention without trial for making allegations about corruption in the Venezuelan government), by uncritically accepting the Venezuelan government prosecution's narrative. That's ignorant and disgusting; casting this kind of aspersion on asylum seeker cases from authoritarian countries, hurts all asylum seekers. It's the complete opposite of solidarity.
The Breach is aware of the existence of transnational repression and foreign propaganda - they've done great reporting on the role of the Hindutva movement / BJP in Canada - so the fact that they would publish this other garbage is even more damning. And to be honest, Lewis' involvement with The Breach, and The Breach's endorsement of Lewis, is kind of an anti-endorsement for me.
However, despite my doubt in Lewis' answer, and my disdain for The Breach, I think the allegations fall apart on one point: That The Breach was a direct succession organization to The Leap. The organizations had different purposes, and the same people were not involved in founding The Breach as the ones which departed The Leap. The facts of the allegation that I've listed above are correct as far as I can tell, but the rest of the reporting and the conclusions it drew are suspect (basically the same level of journalistic malpractice as The Breach's terrible articles above).
tl;dr I think my main point is just Don't Read The Breach. To put it politely, they are using the guise of being a leftist publication to sneak in pieces that are very much defending authoritarianism
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
OK I made it. It was pretty illuminating and I think I have a much better idea how how to rank my ballot now
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
@votetanille MASTODON MENTIONED
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
ROB ASHTON AI USAGE DURING REDDIT AMA MENTIONED
Honestly that basically already disqualified him from my ballot, and I'm not convinced from his answer that he has thought about modern technological disruption that deeply
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
Great comeback from @avilewis against the Leap Manifesto potshot
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
Maybe I'm misremembering but I don't think the Leap Manifesto "destroyed" the Alberta NDP's chances of being reelected in Alberta? The Alberta NDP pushed back against it hard, and also I don't think anyone was talking about the Leap Manifesto during the 2019 provincial election in Alberta, it was basically not relevant then
It's a weird attack for Ashton to levy against Lewis
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
@votetanille absolutely on target with the observation that Poilievre has been showing up to north Vancouver Island (and many other places) a lot even outside election cycles
Poilievre has legitimately hustled a lot to pull away union support
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
@avilewis is the only one that credibly seems like he can rebuild the party in Québec
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
desperately working the CPAC video player controls so I can hear what the Québec NDP member (and former candidate) Malcolm Lewis-Richmond is actually saying
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
Lewis had a good answer when asked about Nenshi that mentioned all of the things above w/ regards to what's happening in Alberta.
Although I'm not sure I heard Nenshi saying "who cares, we are united" the way Lewis is characterizing it...the last thing I heard Nenshi say is this :blobcatgrimacing: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/naheed-nenshi-ndp-leadership-race-9.7072751
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
Moderator inadvertently manifested nenshi as premier next year when she asked mcpherson "how would you negotiate between nenshi and eby, those 2 premiers" and IM MANIFESTING IT TOO
Maybe an unpopular opinion but: the Alberta NDP winning the provincial election in Alberta next year is actually way more important than this leadership race. Unlike the federal NDP, they actually have a chance at forming government.
This is especially with the Alberta fall referendum announced today which is just a huge disgusting targeting of immigrants in Alberta. Alberta right now is a lab for importing MAGA ideas, from targeting immigrants to targeting trans people to breaking organized labour, all through anti-democratic mechanisms. If these policies are enacted in Alberta they become acceptable and normalized things for governments to do in Canada. And that puts us on a very, very bad path.
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
Heather McPherson is also the only one so far to recognize another uncomfortable truth: The provincial NDP parties in this country are way more important and impactful and relevant than the federal one right now
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
in the environment section @votetanille has the best answer on the the reality of the canadian resource economy (as much as we like to fool ourselves we are still heavily a resource extraction economy)
really refreshing answers from her so far in this debate
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
definitely seeing the tensions here too between the big idea people and the people who are more focused on the reality of the ndp's political situation
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CW: canadian politics, ndp leadership debate
not super impressed by anyone's foreign policy / trade answers
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Was that the first (only?) mention of Gaza/Palestine in @avilewis's closing remarks?
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Yay! Got a Mastodon shoutout from @votetanille!
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Awww... In listing all those social media platforms @votetanille didn't mention the Fediverse (or even Mastodon).
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@votetanille on electoral strategy: "Sit down, close your mouth, and listen with both ears!"
Edit: That's strategy aimed at NDP candidates, not an instruction to voters 🫤
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I've favoured @tonymcquailgreenprogressive throughout this campaign, but I'm more impressed by @votetanille than ever.
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And the CBC simultaneous translation is awful. The French speakers' volume is as loud as the translation, so I can't make out either.
Please, CBC, let us listen to the candidates' speech. Provide captioning if translation is needed.