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Recently I had listed Open Source Tools which help me in developing our fedi softwares.

Today I showed a mobile prototype to Clemens who is in Sweden.
And so I need to add :digitalcourage: @senfcall 💖
[and Big Blue Button].

It was basically enter the link, agree to TOS, reuse our protected room (click 1) and share screen (click 2). By all the heat, it was easy to come together.

Thank you #senfcall

#hosted #call #videoconferencing #videoconf #audiocall #sharescreen
#Videokonferenz

Recently I had listed Open Source Tools which help me in developing our fedi softwares.

Today I showed a mobile prototype to Clemens who is in Sweden.
And so I need to add :digitalcourage: @senfcall 💖
[and Big Blue Button].

It was basically enter the link, agree to TOS, reuse our protected room (click 1) and share screen (click 2). By all the heat, it was easy to come together.

Thank you #senfcall

#hosted #call #videoconferencing #videoconf #audiocall #sharescreen
#Videokonferenz

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Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of CALL Service actors associated with it) —

Maybe a call specific custom top-level attribute would be useful.

Maybe something like:

"call": [
{
"rel":"callpub",
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}
]

Or even:

"call": [
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
]

.

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

7/

Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of CALL Service actors associated with it) —

Maybe a call specific custom top-level attribute would be useful.

Maybe something like:

"call": [
{
"rel":"callpub",
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}
]

Or even:

"call": [
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
]

.

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

6/

Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

Maybe a custom top-level attribute would be useful.

Maybe something like:

"service": [
{
"rel":"callpub",
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}
]

Although perhaps that is not much better than "attachment", if you just care about calls

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

6/

Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

Maybe a custom top-level attribute would be useful.

Maybe something like:

"service": [
{
"rel":"callpub",
"href":"https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}
]

Although perhaps that is not much better than "attachment", if you just care about calls

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

5/

Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

I think "endpoints" would also be a poor choice, too. Again, the semantics are wrong, or at least lacking.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

5/

Continuing to look for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

I think "endpoints" would also be a poor choice, too. Again, the semantics are wrong, or at least lacking.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

4/

Looking for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

I think using "alsoKnownAs" or "sameAs" would be a poor choice. The semantics are wrong.

For example: a Service actor might represent my mobile phone (or software on it). My phone is not me. It is something I have.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

4/

Looking for an alternative to "attachment" (for properly supporting an Actor specifying a list of Service actors associated with it) —

I think using "alsoKnownAs" or "sameAs" would be a poor choice. The semantics are wrong.

For example: a Service actor might represent my mobile phone (or software on it). My phone is not me. It is something I have.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

3/

But, what about the non- fall-back situation where software could properly support this (when an Actor specifies a list of Service actors associated with it)‽

I think some might say, put the associated Service actors in "attachment". And, semantically I think that would work with ActivityPub, but — I have a very strong dislike with putting everything in "attachment" (and "tag"). It makes parsing difficult.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

3/

But, what about the non- fall-back situation where software could properly support this (when an Actor specifies a list of Service actors associated with it)‽

I think some might say, put the associated Service actors in "attachment". And, semantically I think that would work with ActivityPub, but — I have a very strong dislike with putting everything in "attachment" (and "tag"). It makes parsing difficult.

So —

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

2/

Because most people wouldn't be able to add custom attributes or custom values to most Fediverse software (including Mastodon) —

Most supporting software would probably want to support a "PropertyValue" link in "attachment" field as a fall-back

For example:

"attachment": [
{
"type": "PropertyValue",
"name": "Video Calls (callpub)",
"value": "https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}

But —

...

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

2/

Because most people wouldn't be able to add custom attributes or custom values to most Fediverse software (including Mastodon) —

Most supporting software would probably want to support a "PropertyValue" link in "attachment" field as a fall-back

For example:

"attachment": [
{
"type": "PropertyValue",
"name": "Video Calls (callpub)",
"value": "https://videocalls.example/users/joeblow"
}

But —

...

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

1/

AFAIK, there isn't a way for an ActivityPub Actor (such as a Person actor) to specify a list of Service actors associated with it.

...

For example, imagine that there is a Service actor that represents a way to make a video call to me.

And, for example, I have my Mastodon Person actor.

And, I want to let people know about it (and other Service actors associated with me).

How do I do that using AP, etc‽

...

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

1/

AFAIK, there isn't a way for an ActivityPub Actor (such as a Person actor) to specify a list of Service actors associated with it.

...

For example, imagine that there is a Service actor that represents a way to make a video call to me.

And, for example, I have my Mastodon Person actor.

And, I want to let people know about it (and other Service actors associated with me).

How do I do that using AP, etc‽

...

#ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #AudioCall #Call #FediDev #Fediverse #VideoCall

A Twitter designer posted up an image on her account that seems to indicate the social network may be planning to add support for both video and audio calls in the very near future. #Twitter #VideoCall #AudioCall https://www.neowin.net/news/twitter-may-be-adding-video-and-audio-calling-support-very-soon/