#robertmusil — Public Fediverse posts

Zettel 1603

Robert Musil: Die Erwachsenen begehen eine barbarische Sünde, indem sie das Schöpfertum des Kindes durch den Raub seiner Welt zerstören, unter herangebrachtem, totem Wissensstoff ersticken und auf bestimmte, ihm fremde Ziele abrichten.

Man sagt es gäbe keine dummen Fragen, nur dumme Antworten.
In diesem Sinne: welcher Roman ist besser?

#Literatur #umfrage #ThomasMann #DerZauberberg #RobertMusil #DerMannohneEigenschaften

Happy birthday, Robert Musil! 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎉 ✍️ 🥇

❤️ "The Man Without Qualities"

> "Clarisse, however, rubbed her nose very vigorously. ‘But I think it's very important,’ she said, ‘that there's something impossible in all of us. It explains so much. While I was listening I got this feeling: if someone could cut us open, our whole life might look like a ring, just something round about something.’ She had already a moment earlier pulled off her wedding-ring and now peeped through it at the lamp-lit wall. ‘I mean, after all there's nothing in the middle of it, and yet it looks as if that were the very thing that was important to it.’"

https://shc.stanford.edu/arcade/publications/rofl/issues/volume-4-issue-1/essayistic-novel-and-mode-life-robert-musils-man

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Musil

#robertmusil #literature #themanwithoutqualities #onthisday

Robert Musil, Percezioni finissime
("Pagine postume pubblicate in vita", Einaudi)
https://www.sagarana.net/rivista/numero9/narrativa2.html

Nel brano la comprensione dell'altro come persona implica che a ogni suo disvelarsi corrisponde una nuova articolazione della intimità con me. Un rinnovarsi dell'equilibrio raggiunto, con me e con l'altro, che continuamente mi mette in gioco nel processo di reciprocità.

L'altro è unicità da accogliere, riconoscere, rispettare, preservare e amare.

@cultura
#letteratura #RobertMusil #libri

@PercyButtons3 @GeneseGrill

Of course, in the end it's a subjective choice. My preference for the old is because of examples like the following, from the very first chapter:

> They obviously belonged to a privileged section of society, their good breeding being apparent in their clothes, their bearing and their manner of conversing. They had their initials significantly embroidered on their underclothing. And likewise – that is to say, not outwardly displayed, but, as it were, in the exquisite underlinen of their minds – they knew who they were and that they were in their proper place in a capital city that was also an imperial residence.

The first time I read this, the adverb "significantly" in "significantly embroidered" really hit me. Not only it somehow shows the perspective of these two people, but has also a sarcastic undertone. Without this adverb, which is in the original German ("bedeutsam"), that sentence loses much of its wit.

That was the older, E. Wilkins & E. Kaiser's translation. The new one by S. Wilkins & B. Pike runs as follows:

> They clearly belonged to a privileged social class, with their distinguished bearing, style of dress, and conversation, the initials of their names embroidered on their underwear, and just as discreetly, which is to say not for outward show but in the fine underwear of their minds, they knew who they were and that they belonged in a European capital city and imperial residence.

That significant "significantly" is gone in this translation, despite being in the original German. No idea why Wilkins & Pike omitted it.

There are also other subtle differences. For instance the German openly says "In the manner in which they were conversing" ("der Art, wie sie miteinander sprachen"), rather than just "conversation". The latter is less precise and might be instead be taken to refer, say, to the *topic* of conversation rather than its manner. Other example: the "European" appearing in the newer translation is *not* in the original.

Anyway, this is just a typical example of why I prefer the older translation.

Enjoy this outstanding novel!

#robertmusil #themanwithoutqualities #dermannohneeigenschaften

@GeneseGrill and Samantha Rose Hill are jointly leading a year long reading group to read Robert Musil's "The Man Without Qualities" (the English translation) in honour of Genese's upcoming biography of Robert Musil. I'll certainly be joining, you should consider it too

Details are here:

https://genesegrill.substack.com/p/man-without-qualities-reading-group

#books #bookstodon #RobertMusil #Vienna #austro_hungarian #modernism

"[...] la bêtise était 'moins un manque d'intelligence qu'une abdication de celle-ci devant les tâches qu'elle prétend accomplir' et 'une dysharmonie entre les partis pris du #sentiment et un entendement incapable de les modérer' ".

cf système 1/système 2 = #cerveau = #alimentation #ecran = #pollution = choix #politique
cf 'aide facilitée' de l'#IA

#marmion #cerveau #connaissance #manipulation #psy #science #SébastianDieguez #robertmusil

"D'une certaine manière, c'est comme si la #postverite consistait à recruter/exploiter l' #intelligence humaine dans le but de lui faire produire/accepter des formes optimales de connerie."

= maladie auto-immune

3 facteurs propres à la connerie contemporaines : #narcissisme / auto-aveuglement / prétention -> "leurs interactions peuvent les renforcer mutuellement."

#marmion #connaissance #cerveau #manipulation #SebastianDieguez #psy #science #RobertMusil #MichelAdam

... ses connaissances, ni même pourquoi il faudrait les transmettre correctement."

cf enjeux de l' #ecole et de sa destruction + usage de l'IA pour obtenir des bonnes notes scolaires.

"[...] #Kant considérait [le #bullshit] comme un défaut de jugement, défaut selon lui malheureusement incurable."

#livre La Vérité de #PascalEngel

#marmion #connaissance #cerveau #manipulation #SebastianDieguez #psy #science #RobertMusil

"[...] on prendra soin de les distinguer du simple défaut d' #intelligence. Il semble effectivement qu'un certain degré d'intelligence soit nécessaire pour produire le type de connerie qui caractérise la post-vérité [...]" -> "demande en réalité des ressources cognitives considérables, et même des dispositifs mentaux fort coûteux en énergie cérébrale."

#livre De la bêtise de #RobertMusil

#marmion #connaissance #cerveau #manipulation #SebastianDieguez #psy

🎭🤔 Oh, you didn't know Robert Musil's forgotten plays inspired his greatest work of fiction? Neither did anyone else, because who reads forgotten plays? But please, let's pretend this revelation is more than just intellectual name-dropping fodder for wannabe literary snobs. 🎩📚
https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/ #RobertMusil #forgottenplays #literaryhistory #intellectualdiscourse #fictioninspiration #HackerNews #ngated

🎭🤔 Oh, you didn't know Robert Musil's forgotten plays inspired his greatest work of fiction? Neither did anyone else, because who reads forgotten plays? But please, let's pretend this revelation is more than just intellectual name-dropping fodder for wannabe literary snobs. 🎩📚
https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/ #RobertMusil #forgottenplays #literaryhistory #intellectualdiscourse #fictioninspiration #HackerNews #ngated

🎭🤔 Oh, you didn't know Robert Musil's forgotten plays inspired his greatest work of fiction? Neither did anyone else, because who reads forgotten plays? But please, let's pretend this revelation is more than just intellectual name-dropping fodder for wannabe literary snobs. 🎩📚
https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/ #RobertMusil #forgottenplays #literaryhistory #intellectualdiscourse #fictioninspiration #HackerNews #ngated

🎭🤔 Oh, you didn't know Robert Musil's forgotten plays inspired his greatest work of fiction? Neither did anyone else, because who reads forgotten plays? But please, let's pretend this revelation is more than just intellectual name-dropping fodder for wannabe literary snobs. 🎩📚
https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/ #RobertMusil #forgottenplays #literaryhistory #intellectualdiscourse #fictioninspiration #HackerNews #ngated

Robert Musil Forgotten Plays Inspired His Greatest Work of Fiction

https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/

#HackerNews #RobertMusil #ForgottenPlays #Literature #Fiction #Inspiration #AustrianWriter

Robert Musil Forgotten Plays Inspired His Greatest Work of Fiction

https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/

#HackerNews #RobertMusil #ForgottenPlays #Literature #Fiction #Inspiration #AustrianWriter

Robert Musil Forgotten Plays Inspired His Greatest Work of Fiction

https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/

#HackerNews #RobertMusil #ForgottenPlays #Literature #Fiction #Inspiration #AustrianWriter

Robert Musil Forgotten Plays Inspired His Greatest Work of Fiction

https://lithub.com/the-austrian-writer-whose-forgotten-plays-inspired-his-greatest-work-of-fiction/

#HackerNews #RobertMusil #ForgottenPlays #Literature #Fiction #Inspiration #AustrianWriter

Happy birthday, Robert Musil! 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎉 ✍️ 🥇

❤️ "The Man Without Qualities"

> "Clarisse, however, rubbed her nose very vigorously. ‘But I think it's very important,’ she said, ‘that there's something impossible in all of us. It explains so much. While I was listening I got this feeling: if someone could cut us open, our whole life might look like a ring, just something round about something.’ She had already a moment earlier pulled off her wedding-ring and now peeped through it at the lamp-lit wall. ‘I mean, after all there's nothing in the middle of it, and yet it looks as if that were the very thing that was important to it.’"

https://shc.stanford.edu/arcade/publications/rofl/issues/volume-4-issue-1/essayistic-novel-and-mode-life-robert-musils-man

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Musil

#robertmusil #literature #themanwithoutqualities

| Wenn es aber Wirklichkeitssinn gibt, und niemand wird bezweifeln, dass er seine Daseinsberechtigung hat, dann muss es auch etwas geben, das man Möglichkeitssinn nennen kann[...]
| Wer den Möglichkeitssinn besitzt, sagt beispielsweise nicht: Hier ist dies oder das geschehen, wird geschehen, muss geschehen; sondern er erfindet: Hier könnte, sollte oder müsste geschehen; und wenn man ihm von irgendetwas erklärt, dass es so sei, wie es sei, dann denkt er: Nun, es könnte wahrscheinlich auch anders sein.

Die ganzen #LLM|s lügen nicht das Blaue vom Himmel, sie haben den Möglichkeitssinn.

#gnihi #RobertMusil #MannOhneEigenschaften

#UweWittstock's book "February 1933: The Winter of Literature" and #RobertMusil's "Literature and Politics" illustrate how many #WeimarRepublic writers compromised or fled to survive the rise of #fascism. Few actively resisted #Nazism, with most opting for silence or collaboration to avoid persecution. #BertoltBrecht and #JosephRoth are exceptions who recognized and opposed the threat early, while figures like #ErichKästner remained to document the era.

https://jacobin.com/2024/05/weimar-writers-fascism-book-review

In seiner Analyse zu #wimwenders Film „Perfect Days“ zieht #GertScobel einen Vergleich zu #RobertMusil „Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften“.
Alles ist veränderlich und vergänglich – wie das Spiel der Blätter. Diese zutiefst buddhistische Weisheit zeigt eine nahe Verwandtschaft zum japanischen Begriff #komorebi der in Wenders Film eine zentrale Rolle spielt. In ähnlicher Weise trifft dies auf den ,anderen Zustand‘ in Musils Hauptwerk zu.
#film #musik #buch #meditation
https://piped.video/watch?v=B5RX-NZB9lU&t=1078

#luomosenzaqualita #robertmusil #unocitazioni #citazioni #citazione #unolibri #unolibro
#libro #libri #leggere #scrivere #citazionedelgiorno

Pencil sketch of the great #translator Burton Pike, from a photo I took of him after our 2016 #podcast. He died yesterday (Dec. 22, 2022) at 92. Our conversation is at http://chimeraobscura.com/vm/episode-159-burton-pike if you'd like to listen to it

#books #bookstodon #translation #Musil #RobertMusil #TheManWithoutQualities #art #amateurartist

The Negative Dialectics of Poodle Play:

#PhilipKDick
#RobertMusil
#JaneAusten
#DanielSuarez
#SvenRegener
#MaxGoldt
#SebastianHaffner
#ThomasMann
#HermannHesse

hmmm not that much. i'm a slow reader

#Reading #AudioBooks

#MyHashtagList #MastoTags

I'm a #professor of #arthistory, #theory, and #criticism in Chicago. I'd like to use this platform to exchange ideas about #postmodern and #contemporary #experimental #fiction, especially #maximalist, including #Joyce, #robertmusil, #georgesperec, #witoldgombrowicz, #miklosszentkuthy, #arnoschmidt, #mariannefritz, #thomasbernhard, #fernandopessoa, #marcelproust, #ingeborgbachmann, #peterhandke, and delated #literarycriticism, #literarytheory, #literaryhistory, #publishing, #bookreviews