#permission — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #permission, aggregated by home.social.
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J’interroge (Nikos Kazantzaki)
Second devoir 21 J'interroge, j'interroge encore, je cogne dans les ténèbres : Qui nous a plantés sur la terre sans nous en demander la permission ? Qui nous a déracinés de cette terre sans nous en demander la permission ? 22 Je suis une créature débile et éphémère, pétrie de boue et de songe. Mais, au dedans de moi, je sens tourbillonner toutes les forces de l'univers. 23 Avant qu'elles ne me brisent, je veux un instant ouvrir les yeux et les voir. Voilà le […]https://arbrealettres.wordpress.com/2026/07/05/jinterroge-nikos-kazantzaki/
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J’interroge (Nikos Kazantzaki)
Second devoir 21 J'interroge, j'interroge encore, je cogne dans les ténèbres : Qui nous a plantés sur la terre sans nous en demander la permission ? Qui nous a déracinés de cette terre sans nous en demander la permission ? 22 Je suis une créature débile et éphémère, pétrie de boue et de songe. Mais, au dedans de moi, je sens tourbillonner toutes les forces de l'univers. 23 Avant qu'elles ne me brisent, je veux un instant ouvrir les yeux et les voir. Voilà le […]https://arbrealettres.wordpress.com/2026/07/05/jinterroge-nikos-kazantzaki/
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J’interroge (Nikos Kazantzaki)
Second devoir 21 J'interroge, j'interroge encore, je cogne dans les ténèbres : Qui nous a plantés sur la terre sans nous en demander la permission ? Qui nous a déracinés de cette terre sans nous en demander la permission ? 22 Je suis une créature débile et éphémère, pétrie de boue et de songe. Mais, au dedans de moi, je sens tourbillonner toutes les forces de l'univers. 23 Avant qu'elles ne me brisent, je veux un instant ouvrir les yeux et les voir. Voilà le […]https://arbrealettres.wordpress.com/2026/07/05/jinterroge-nikos-kazantzaki/
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J’interroge (Nikos Kazantzaki)
Second devoir 21 J'interroge, j'interroge encore, je cogne dans les ténèbres : Qui nous a plantés sur la terre sans nous en demander la permission ? Qui nous a déracinés de cette terre sans nous en demander la permission ? 22 Je suis une créature débile et éphémère, pétrie de boue et de songe. Mais, au dedans de moi, je sens tourbillonner toutes les forces de l'univers. 23 Avant qu'elles ne me brisent, je veux un instant ouvrir les yeux et les voir. Voilà le […]https://arbrealettres.wordpress.com/2026/07/05/jinterroge-nikos-kazantzaki/
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@Jasper BurnsI'd like to see more of that in the fediverse features like events, groups, moderation, different roles, permissions etc. complemented by secure communication!
The Fediverse has literally got just about of this right now. Mastodon doesn't. But the Fediverse does because there's stuff in the Fediverse, as in federated with Mastodon, that has it. And it has had all of this for longer than Mastodon has even existed.Friendica
Friendica has- federating events
- groups (which are special accounts)
- private groups
- hidden groups
- moderated groups
- groups with multiple moderators on the same server
- a permissions system
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- etc.
Friendica is from May, 2010, over five and a half years older than Mastodon.
It was made as an alternative for Facebook right away. It was not meant to be a Facebook clone, though, but better than Facebook while also covering all long-form blogging features.
And Friendica is fully federated with Mastodon. You can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon, and Friendica users can connect to your Mastodon account from Friendica.Hubzilla
Hubzilla has- federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
- groups (which are special channels; Hubzilla calls them "forums")
- various independent options of making groups private that can be combined
- hidden groups, groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
- the second-most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 17 different permissions and seven or eight channel-wide permission levels for each
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- optional additional encryption (only works within Hubzilla)
- optional non-federating articles
- optional planning cards
- optional webpages
- optional wikis
- nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
- etc. etc.
Hubzilla is from March, 2016, ten months older than Mastodon. It was created by Friendica's creator by rebuilding and repurposing a fork of a fork of Friendica.
It is considered a "decentralised social content management system" that can be just about anything you want it to be because it's so modular. Basically, what's incomplete and unstable at best and an unfulfilled promise at worst on Bonfire has been readily available and rock-solid stable for over 10 years on Hubzilla. And even more on top of that.
Red, the Hubzilla precursor, was the first software to establish nomadic identity, something that Bluesky claims to be in the process of inventing from scratch. And that was as early as 2012.
Hubzilla was the very first software to implement ActivityPub. And unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla implemented ActivityPub by the book and largely still does so.
And Hubzilla is optionally fully federated with Mastodon. In fact, this comment that you're reading right now comes from Hubzilla. Like, you're directly speaking with someone on something that has absolutely everything you wish for the Fediverse to have, and that has had all of it for longer than Mastodon has existed.(streams), Forte
(streams) and Forte have- federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
- groups (which are special channels)
- private groups
- hidden groups
- groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
- groups with moderated posting and commenting (as in posts and comments from new members will have to be confirmed by the moderators in order to be visible)
- the most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 15 different permissions and three or four channel-wide permission levels for each
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
- etc.
(streams) is from October, 2021. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla.
Forte is from August, 2024. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of (streams).
Forte was the first software to establish nomadic identity via ActivityPub.
And both are fully federated with Mastodon; (streams) optionally so, but it is by default.
I've made a document with a series of tables which directly compare the features of Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/0a75de76-eb27-4149-b708-f20b2f79d392
In fact, this document is on the very same Hubzilla channel that I'm commenting from right now.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Calendar #Events #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #PrivateGroups #Permission #Permissions -
@Jasper BurnsI'd like to see more of that in the fediverse features like events, groups, moderation, different roles, permissions etc. complemented by secure communication!
The Fediverse has literally got just about of this right now. Mastodon doesn't. But the Fediverse does because there's stuff in the Fediverse, as in federated with Mastodon, that has it. And it has had all of this for longer than Mastodon has even existed.Friendica
Friendica has- federating events
- groups (which are special accounts)
- private groups
- hidden groups
- moderated groups
- groups with multiple moderators on the same server
- a permissions system
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- etc.
Friendica is from May, 2010, over five and a half years older than Mastodon.
It was made as an alternative for Facebook right away. It was not meant to be a Facebook clone, though, but better than Facebook while also covering all long-form blogging features.
And Friendica is fully federated with Mastodon. You can follow Friendica accounts from Mastodon, and Friendica users can connect to your Mastodon account from Friendica.Hubzilla
Hubzilla has- federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
- groups (which are special channels; Hubzilla calls them "forums")
- various independent options of making groups private that can be combined
- hidden groups, groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
- the second-most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 17 different permissions and seven or eight channel-wide permission levels for each
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- optional additional encryption (only works within Hubzilla)
- optional non-federating articles
- optional planning cards
- optional webpages
- optional wikis
- nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
- etc. etc.
Hubzilla is from March, 2016, ten months older than Mastodon. It was created by Friendica's creator by rebuilding and repurposing a fork of a fork of Friendica.
It is considered a "decentralised social content management system" that can be just about anything you want it to be because it's so modular. Basically, what's incomplete and unstable at best and an unfulfilled promise at worst on Bonfire has been readily available and rock-solid stable for over 10 years on Hubzilla. And even more on top of that.
Red, the Hubzilla precursor, was the first software to establish nomadic identity, something that Bluesky claims to be in the process of inventing from scratch. And that was as early as 2012.
Hubzilla was the very first software to implement ActivityPub. And unlike Mastodon, Hubzilla implemented ActivityPub by the book and largely still does so.
And Hubzilla is optionally fully federated with Mastodon. In fact, this comment that you're reading right now comes from Hubzilla. Like, you're directly speaking with someone on something that has absolutely everything you wish for the Fediverse to have, and that has had all of it for longer than Mastodon has existed.(streams), Forte
(streams) and Forte have- federating events (in addition to a non-federating CalDAV calendar server)
- groups (which are special channels)
- private groups
- hidden groups
- groups with multiple admins/moderators anywhere on Hubzilla or (streams) or Forte
- groups with moderated posting and commenting (as in posts and comments from new members will have to be confirmed by the moderators in order to be visible)
- the most advanced permissions system in the Fediverse on three levels (entire channel, individual contacts, content) with 15 different permissions and three or four channel-wide permission levels for each
- DMs that are actually private because they're covered by the permissions system rather than just handling who receives a message
- nomadic (fully portable, decentralised, distributed) identity
- etc.
(streams) is from October, 2021. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of Hubzilla.
Forte is from August, 2024. It was created by Friendica's creator as a fork of (streams).
Forte was the first software to establish nomadic identity via ActivityPub.
And both are fully federated with Mastodon; (streams) optionally so, but it is by default.
I've made a document with a series of tables which directly compare the features of Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/0a75de76-eb27-4149-b708-f20b2f79d392
In fact, this document is on the very same Hubzilla channel that I'm commenting from right now.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Calendar #Events #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups #PrivateGroups #Permission #Permissions -
@Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 This would require three things, however.
One, any Fediverse server software would have to be capable of altering comments from any Fediverse software. Don't think that posts, comments etc. aren't formatted the same everywhere. They aren't.
For example, Mastodon would have to know and understand that it would have to remove@[email protected]from Misskey, Sharkey, CherryPick, Iceshrimp etc. notes,@[url=https://mas.to/users/osma]Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦[/url]from Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte comments and an invisible shadow mention from (streams) and Forte comments, too.
Two, anyone in the Fediverse would have to always have full and unlimited permission to alter everyone else's content without their consent. This is particularly crucial in the cases of Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte with their highly advanced and fine-grained permissions systems that don't even cover having your content altered by others.
Three, edits on any Fediverse software must always be federated to absolutely everywhere and anywhere in the Fediverse, no exceptions, regardless of software. AFAIK, there is Fediverse server software that still doesn't understand edits at all, and that will either ignore received edits or understand them as and treat them like new posts.
It's very similar to the wish for being able to edit alt-texts into other people's posts which seems to pretty much always come from people who think that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or at least that everything in the Fediverse is like Mastodon plus one or two extra features.
And let's be honest: If you give especially Mastodon users the ability to alter other people's posts, they will want to alter other people's posts in lots of other ways. Like, delete summaries on Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte posts because they're "abuse of the CW field" from a "Fediverse = Mastodon" point of view. Remove all hashtags but four, regardless of these hashtags triggering the automated, individual, reader-side content warnings that have existed in the Friendica family since five and a half years before Mastodon was first published. Cutting "long posts" (= everything over 500 characters) down to a maximum of 500 characters because "the Fediverse was invented by Eugen Rochko for only microblogging". Even removing any and all mentions of the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Removing text formatting because "it has no place in a Twitter alternative". Or removing all contents from posts or comments altogether.
Of course, the very same Mastodon users will completely flip their shit if a Friendica user comes and copies their 20-post threads into one long post, deletes the contents of the 19 follow-ups afterwards and replaces the content warning in the abstract field (= their CW field) with an actual abstract, just to fit it into a Fediverse culture that's way older than Mastodon itself.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Misskey #Sharkey #CherryPick #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Mention #Mentions #MentionTag #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #Permission #Permissions -
@Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 This would require three things, however.
One, any Fediverse server software would have to be capable of altering comments from any Fediverse software. Don't think that posts, comments etc. aren't formatted the same everywhere. They aren't.
For example, Mastodon would have to know and understand that it would have to remove@[email protected]from Misskey, Sharkey, CherryPick, Iceshrimp etc. notes,@[url=https://mas.to/users/osma]Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦[/url]from Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte comments and an invisible shadow mention from (streams) and Forte comments, too.
Two, anyone in the Fediverse would have to always have full and unlimited permission to alter everyone else's content without their consent. This is particularly crucial in the cases of Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte with their highly advanced and fine-grained permissions systems that don't even cover having your content altered by others.
Three, edits on any Fediverse software must always be federated to absolutely everywhere and anywhere in the Fediverse, no exceptions, regardless of software. AFAIK, there is Fediverse server software that still doesn't understand edits at all, and that will either ignore received edits or understand them as and treat them like new posts.
It's very similar to the wish for being able to edit alt-texts into other people's posts which seems to pretty much always come from people who think that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or at least that everything in the Fediverse is like Mastodon plus one or two extra features.
And let's be honest: If you give especially Mastodon users the ability to alter other people's posts, they will want to alter other people's posts in lots of other ways. Like, delete summaries on Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams)/Forte posts because they're "abuse of the CW field" from a "Fediverse = Mastodon" point of view. Remove all hashtags but four, regardless of these hashtags triggering the automated, individual, reader-side content warnings that have existed in the Friendica family since five and a half years before Mastodon was first published. Cutting "long posts" (= everything over 500 characters) down to a maximum of 500 characters because "the Fediverse was invented by Eugen Rochko for only microblogging". Even removing any and all mentions of the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Removing text formatting because "it has no place in a Twitter alternative". Or removing all contents from posts or comments altogether.
Of course, the very same Mastodon users will completely flip their shit if a Friendica user comes and copies their 20-post threads into one long post, deletes the contents of the 19 follow-ups afterwards and replaces the content warning in the abstract field (= their CW field) with an actual abstract, just to fit it into a Fediverse culture that's way older than Mastodon itself.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #Misskey #Sharkey #CherryPick #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Mention #Mentions #MentionTag #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #Permission #Permissions -
#Gay #teen asks #friend's #mom with #noboys #rule, for #permission to attend #girlsonly #sleepover and she handled it #perfectly.
"Hmm. Well my husband is hot. Should I worry?"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #GayKids #TransKids #Sleepovers #Representation #Culture
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#Gay #teen asks #friend's #mom with #noboys #rule, for #permission to attend #girlsonly #sleepover and she handled it #perfectly.
"Hmm. Well my husband is hot. Should I worry?"
#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA #GayKids #TransKids #Sleepovers #Representation #Culture