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#AustralianStory what a delightful mind and spirit :clapping: former Labor Senator now Independent #Fatima #Payman
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/australian-story/series/2024/video/NC2402Q019S00 #FatimaPayman

@smitjo
The founding documents of Likud and Hamas both claim exclusive rights from the river to the sea (both parties have since moderated their language, but the intent is clear). Zionism also has a worrying history of aspiring to "Greater Israel". By some accounts, that stretches from the Euphrates to the Nile.
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@RaymondPierreL3
It seemed to me that we were discussing from different perspectives. Some of us were learning. Others, evidently not.

For the record, I don't believe that there's a viable a two-state solution. It's pretty clear that the Zionists are intent on being the master race in the region. While Israel exists, the chances of peace are slim to none.
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@RaymondPierreL3 "Palestine was created by the British"
The concept of Palestine has existed for more than a millennium. If it was "created", then that could be said to have been done by the Emperor Constantine in the fourth century CE (though he was building on history).

"...carved out by the jewish tribes through conquests as the Egyptian 'let them go'..."
There's no evidence of substantial numbers of Hebrew slaves in Egypt. Ever. No Passover. No Exodus (at least, not on the scale of the mythology). Probably no Moses.

@smitjo
"my recollection is that Israel has never accepted the proposed borders"
One of the conditions imposed by the UN was that Israel would declare it borders. That has never happened. (They probably intend to take total control from the river to the sea, then move on to "Greater Israel".) If we're going to obsess over borders, then Israel doesn't formally exist.
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"what territorial boundaries" @RaymondPierreL3
I wondered about that. It turns out to be irrelevant. A "state" is an organised political community. Territory is usual, but not necessary under all definitions.

Recognising a state formalises its existence. We can haggle over territory later.
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"recognising a Palestinian state which does not exists" (sic) @RaymondPierreL3
"As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 member states of the United Nations."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine
You must be missing something.

And your 'whatboutism' serves only to emphasise the point.

To me, the question is whether the Zionist state should exist. It's been nothing but trouble.
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Das Berliner Ensemble zeigt jeweils ab Freitag 18.00 Uhr eine Woche lang alte Aufnahmen bekannter Inszenierungen über ihre Webseite. Aktuell ist es Mutter Courage mit Helene Weigel.

Unsere Artikel über einen Besuch zu einer Inszenierung von Claus Peyman haben gibt es bei uns. http://denklatenz.de/artikel/kultur/mutter-courage.html

#Brecht #Payman #Weigel #BE #BerlinerEnsemble