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If you find a wiki page seemingly from a MediaWiki, but without a "View History" link, here’s a tip for how to find it.

Example: the old HTML Working Group (WG) wiki at W3C
* https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Main_Page

Note the warning at the top: “This wiki has been archived and is now read-only.”

Aside: many years ago, each group at W3C had their own MediaWiki install, in a different path and disconnected from both every other group’s wiki, and the top level general W3C wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki). I pointed out this made no sense, since groups more often than not had overlaps in documentation, technology, practices and would of course benefit from wiki-syntax interlinking. This was never really fixed at an infrastructure level, it had to be fixed at a cultural level, convincing working groups one by one to use the general W3C wiki, and ignore any WG-specific wiki. The other apparent hazard of having a WG-specific wiki is they can be (and have been) shutdown or frozen (like the example given), breaking any chance of fixing typos, other minor errors, or creating redirects to where the work has been restarted subsequently.

Note also the lack of a "View History" link as a tab top right adjacent to the content area (or anywhere else on the page).

This is likely because the page has been archived as static HTML, preserving the markup and styling, but removing any editing or history browsing or diffing or any other form submission based features that would require a dynamic backend like MediaWiki.

Here is how to find such a page’s history:
1. Find the “last modified” date in the footer and note the year, month, day.
2. Check for the page in the Internet Archive, e.g. prepend its URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/"
3. If there’s (presumably) still no "View History" link, look at the year month day numbers in the URL — the first 8 digits after "/web/" E.g. "20260512" for this page as of today.
4. Replace those 8 digits with the year, month, day noted in step 1, with 4, 2, 2 digit numbers respectively. E.g. "20150623" for this page. Press return to load that.
5. You may have to "close toolbar" the (x) in the top right of the page content.
6. Note the "View History" link, click it.

Presto, view history on a former MediaWiki page that’s been archived to static HTML.

This is my second #WASSUP #WASSUP2026 post, and first useful web tip.

#wiki #wikiPage #MediaWiki #ViewHistory #W3C #HTMLWG #wikiArchived #readOnly #staticHTML #InternetArchive #WaybackMachine #LastModified

If you find a wiki page seemingly from a MediaWiki, but without a "View History" link, here’s a tip for how to find it.

Example: the old HTML Working Group (WG) wiki at W3C
* https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Main_Page

Note the warning at the top: “This wiki has been archived and is now read-only.”

Aside: many years ago, each group at W3C had their own MediaWiki install, in a different path and disconnected from both every other group’s wiki, and the top level general W3C wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki). I pointed out this made no sense, since groups more often than not had overlaps in documentation, technology, practices and would of course benefit from wiki-syntax interlinking. This was never really fixed at an infrastructure level, it had to be fixed at a cultural level, convincing working groups one by one to use the general W3C wiki, and ignore any WG-specific wiki. The other apparent hazard of having a WG-specific wiki is they can be (and have been) shutdown or frozen (like the example given), breaking any chance of fixing typos, other minor errors, or creating redirects to where the work has been restarted subsequently.

Note also the lack of a "View History" link as a tab top right adjacent to the content area (or anywhere else on the page).

This is likely because the page has been archived as static HTML, preserving the markup and styling, but removing any editing or history browsing or diffing or any other form submission based features that would require a dynamic backend like MediaWiki.

Here is how to find such a page’s history:
1. Find the “last modified” date in the footer and note the year, month, day.
2. Check for the page in the Internet Archive, e.g. prepend its URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/"
3. If there’s (presumably) still no "View History" link, look at the year month day numbers in the URL — the first 8 digits after "/web/" E.g. "20260512" for this page as of today.
4. Replace those 8 digits with the year, month, day noted in step 1, with 4, 2, 2 digit numbers respectively. E.g. "20150623" for this page. Press return to load that.
5. You may have to "close toolbar" the (x) in the top right of the page content.
6. Note the "View History" link, click it.

Presto, view history on a former MediaWiki page that’s been archived to static HTML.

This is my second #WASSUP #WASSUP2026 post, and first useful web tip.

#wiki #wikiPage #MediaWiki #ViewHistory #W3C #HTMLWG #wikiArchived #readOnly #staticHTML #InternetArchive #WaybackMachine #LastModified

If you find a wiki page seemingly from a MediaWiki, but without a "View History" link, here’s a tip for how to find it.

Example: the old HTML Working Group (WG) wiki at W3C
* https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Main_Page

Note the warning at the top: “This wiki has been archived and is now read-only.”

Aside: many years ago, each group at W3C had their own MediaWiki install, in a different path and disconnected from both every other group’s wiki, and the top level general W3C wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki). I pointed out this made no sense, since groups more often than not had overlaps in documentation, technology, practices and would of course benefit from wiki-syntax interlinking. This was never really fixed at an infrastructure level, it had to be fixed at a cultural level, convincing working groups one by one to use the general W3C wiki, and ignore any WG-specific wiki. The other apparent hazard of having a WG-specific wiki is they can be (and have been) shutdown or frozen (like the example given), breaking any chance of fixing typos, other minor errors, or creating redirects to where the work has been restarted subsequently.

Note also the lack of a "View History" link as a tab top right adjacent to the content area (or anywhere else on the page).

This is likely because the page has been archived as static HTML, preserving the markup and styling, but removing any editing or history browsing or diffing or any other form submission based features that would require a dynamic backend like MediaWiki.

Here is how to find such a page’s history:
1. Find the “last modified” date in the footer and note the year, month, day.
2. Check for the page in the Internet Archive, e.g. prepend its URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/"
3. If there’s (presumably) still no "View History" link, look at the year month day numbers in the URL — the first 8 digits after "/web/" E.g. "20260512" for this page as of today.
4. Replace those 8 digits with the year, month, day noted in step 1, with 4, 2, 2 digit numbers respectively. E.g. "20150623" for this page. Press return to load that.
5. You may have to "close toolbar" the (x) in the top right of the page content.
6. Note the "View History" link, click it.

Presto, view history on a former MediaWiki page that’s been archived to static HTML.

This is my second #WASSUP #WASSUP2026 post, and first useful web tip.

#wiki #wikiPage #MediaWiki #ViewHistory #W3C #HTMLWG #wikiArchived #readOnly #staticHTML #InternetArchive #WaybackMachine #LastModified

If you find a wiki page seemingly from a MediaWiki, but without a "View History" link, here’s a tip for how to find it.

Example: the old HTML Working Group (WG) wiki at W3C
* https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Main_Page

Note the warning at the top: “This wiki has been archived and is now read-only.”

Aside: many years ago, each group at W3C had their own MediaWiki install, in a different path and disconnected from both every other group’s wiki, and the top level general W3C wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki). I pointed out this made no sense, since groups more often than not had overlaps in documentation, technology, practices and would of course benefit from wiki-syntax interlinking. This was never really fixed at an infrastructure level, it had to be fixed at a cultural level, convincing working groups one by one to use the general W3C wiki, and ignore any WG-specific wiki. The other apparent hazard of having a WG-specific wiki is they can be (and have been) shutdown or frozen (like the example given), breaking any chance of fixing typos, other minor errors, or creating redirects to where the work has been restarted subsequently.

Note also the lack of a "View History" link as a tab top right adjacent to the content area (or anywhere else on the page).

This is likely because the page has been archived as static HTML, preserving the markup and styling, but removing any editing or history browsing or diffing or any other form submission based features that would require a dynamic backend like MediaWiki.

Here is how to find such a page’s history:
1. Find the “last modified” date in the footer and note the year, month, day.
2. Check for the page in the Internet Archive, e.g. prepend its URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/"
3. If there’s (presumably) still no "View History" link, look at the year month day numbers in the URL — the first 8 digits after "/web/" E.g. "20260512" for this page as of today.
4. Replace those 8 digits with the year, month, day noted in step 1, with 4, 2, 2 digit numbers respectively. E.g. "20150623" for this page. Press return to load that.
5. You may have to "close toolbar" the (x) in the top right of the page content.
6. Note the "View History" link, click it.

Presto, view history on a former MediaWiki page that’s been archived to static HTML.

This is my second #WASSUP #WASSUP2026 post, and first useful web tip.

#wiki #wikiPage #MediaWiki #ViewHistory #W3C #HTMLWG #wikiArchived #readOnly #staticHTML #InternetArchive #WaybackMachine #LastModified

If you find a wiki page seemingly from a MediaWiki, but without a "View History" link, here’s a tip for how to find it.

Example: the old HTML Working Group (WG) wiki at W3C
* https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Main_Page

Note the warning at the top: “This wiki has been archived and is now read-only.”

Aside: many years ago, each group at W3C had their own MediaWiki install, in a different path and disconnected from both every other group’s wiki, and the top level general W3C wiki (http://www.w3.org/wiki). I pointed out this made no sense, since groups more often than not had overlaps in documentation, technology, practices and would of course benefit from wiki-syntax interlinking. This was never really fixed at an infrastructure level, it had to be fixed at a cultural level, convincing working groups one by one to use the general W3C wiki, and ignore any WG-specific wiki. The other apparent hazard of having a WG-specific wiki is they can be (and have been) shutdown or frozen (like the example given), breaking any chance of fixing typos, other minor errors, or creating redirects to where the work has been restarted subsequently.

Note also the lack of a "View History" link as a tab top right adjacent to the content area (or anywhere else on the page).

This is likely because the page has been archived as static HTML, preserving the markup and styling, but removing any editing or history browsing or diffing or any other form submission based features that would require a dynamic backend like MediaWiki.

Here is how to find such a page’s history:
1. Find the “last modified” date in the footer and note the year, month, day.
2. Check for the page in the Internet Archive, e.g. prepend its URL with "https://web.archive.org/web/"
3. If there’s (presumably) still no "View History" link, look at the year month day numbers in the URL — the first 8 digits after "/web/" E.g. "20260512" for this page as of today.
4. Replace those 8 digits with the year, month, day noted in step 1, with 4, 2, 2 digit numbers respectively. E.g. "20150623" for this page. Press return to load that.
5. You may have to "close toolbar" the (x) in the top right of the page content.
6. Note the "View History" link, click it.

Presto, view history on a former MediaWiki page that’s been archived to static HTML.

This is my second #WASSUP #WASSUP2026 post, and first useful web tip.

#wiki #wikiPage #MediaWiki #ViewHistory #W3C #HTMLWG #wikiArchived #readOnly #staticHTML #InternetArchive #WaybackMachine #LastModified