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  1. @wjmaggos

    Some speech is illegal.

    Um, no, not in America. #factcheckfalse Thank you for playing. No one is legally obligated to listen to what you say, and no one is legally obligated to carry your message (such as, say, corporate social media), but you always have the legal right to say it.

    Please go re-read the First Amendment. It has only a few words, so even an overeducated progressive can muddle through the meaning of the text. No matter how much authoritarians and leftists (but I repeat myself) want to make things they disagree with illegal, no law in the USA that limits speech can be constitutional.

    Now, to pre-emptively respond to your next replies to this thread:

    “But what if somebody said something really bad about your wife…” Yeah, you use this red herring a lot. My wife is not some fragile creature who crumbles whenever somebody looks at her sideways, and does not need me rushing out with the censor stamp every time somebody questions her hairstyle. But more to the point, it doesn’t matter. You can say the worst things in the world, and while you may lose my respect and make me ignore you, I will still defend your right to say it.

    “But these 10,000 pages of case law …” are eclipsed by the 45 words of the First Amendment. Sometimes courts get it wrong. Judges are humans too. Especially judges who were appointed not because they read the Constitution, but rather because they are activists who toe the party line, Constitution be damned. Truth is truth, no matter how many opinionated humans you try to obfuscate it with.

    When you say “some speech is illegal”, what you may mean to say is that armed gangs of uniformed thugs may come after me if I say something that the prevailing regime dislikes. To that, I begrudgingly agree. And if you equate that to being “illegal”, then I have no counterargument. But I believe that in order for our Republic to continue, we must always return to the Constitution, under which unconstitutional laws must necessarily be struck down.

  2. @wjmaggos

    Some speech is illegal.

    Um, no, not in America. #factcheckfalse Thank you for playing. No one is legally obligated to listen to what you say, and no one is legally obligated to carry your message (such as, say, corporate social media), but you always have the legal right to say it.

    Please go re-read the First Amendment. It has only a few words, so even an overeducated progressive can muddle through the meaning of the text. No matter how much authoritarians and leftists (but I repeat myself) want to make things they disagree with illegal, no law in the USA that limits speech can be constitutional.

    Now, to pre-emptively respond to your next replies to this thread:

    “But what if somebody said something really bad about your wife…” Yeah, you use this red herring a lot. My wife is not some fragile creature who crumbles whenever somebody looks at her sideways, and does not need me rushing out with the censor stamp every time somebody questions her hairstyle. But more to the point, it doesn’t matter. You can say the worst things in the world, and while you may lose my respect and make me ignore you, I will still defend your right to say it.

    “But these 10,000 pages of case law …” are eclipsed by the 45 words of the First Amendment. Sometimes courts get it wrong. Judges are humans too. Especially judges who were appointed not because they read the Constitution, but rather because they are activists who toe the party line, Constitution be damned. Truth is truth, no matter how many opinionated humans you try to obfuscate it with.

    When you say “some speech is illegal”, what you may mean to say is that armed gangs of uniformed thugs may come after me if I say something that the prevailing regime dislikes. To that, I begrudgingly agree. And if you equate that to being “illegal”, then I have no counterargument. But I believe that in order for our Republic to continue, we must always return to the Constitution, under which unconstitutional laws must necessarily be struck down.

  3. @wjmaggos

    Some speech is illegal.

    Um, no, not in America. #factcheckfalse Thank you for playing. No one is legally obligated to listen to what you say, and no one is legally obligated to carry your message (such as, say, corporate social media), but you always have the legal right to say it.

    Please go re-read the First Amendment. It has only a few words, so even an overeducated progressive can muddle through the meaning of the text. No matter how much authoritarians and leftists (but I repeat myself) want to make things they disagree with illegal, no law in the USA that limits speech can be constitutional.

    Now, to pre-emptively respond to your next replies to this thread:

    “But what if somebody said something really bad about your wife…” Yeah, you use this red herring a lot. My wife is not some fragile creature who crumbles whenever somebody looks at her sideways, and does not need me rushing out with the censor stamp every time somebody questions her hairstyle. But more to the point, it doesn’t matter. You can say the worst things in the world, and while you may lose my respect and make me ignore you, I will still defend your right to say it.

    “But these 10,000 pages of case law …” are eclipsed by the 45 words of the First Amendment. Sometimes courts get it wrong. Judges are humans too. Especially judges who were appointed not because they read the Constitution, but rather because they are activists who toe the party line, Constitution be damned. Truth is truth, no matter how many opinionated humans you try to obfuscate it with.

    When you say “some speech is illegal”, what you may mean to say is that armed gangs of uniformed thugs may come after me if I say something that the prevailing regime dislikes. To that, I begrudgingly agree. And if you equate that to being “illegal”, then I have no counterargument. But I believe that in order for our Republic to continue, we must always return to the Constitution, under which unconstitutional laws must necessarily be struck down.