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Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"The American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."
#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman
@nicolesandler

Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"The American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."
#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman
@nicolesandler

Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"The American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."
#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman
@nicolesandler

Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"The American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."
#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman
@nicolesandler

Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"The American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."
#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman
@nicolesandler

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."

#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman Part 2
Whole clip https://youtu.be/wxylvu3bamo here

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."

#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman Part 2
Whole clip https://youtu.be/wxylvu3bamo here

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."

#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman Part 2
Whole clip https://youtu.be/wxylvu3bamo here

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."

#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman Part 2
Whole clip https://youtu.be/wxylvu3bamo here

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the Supreme Court's opinion on the Counterman V Colorado case.

"American people need to have 21st century rules to deal with 21st century cyberstalking, stalking, harassment and that type of threat. This is not about core 1st Amendment rights. People don't have the right to harass other people and threaten them."

#SupremeCourt #1stAmendment #stalking #CyberStalking #harassment #OnlineThreats #Facebook #Counterman Part 2
Whole clip https://youtu.be/wxylvu3bamo here

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the #SupremeCourt's opinion on the #Counterman V Colorado case. Part 1

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the #SupremeCourt's opinion on the #Counterman V Colorado case. Part 1

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the #SupremeCourt's opinion on the #Counterman V Colorado case. Part 1

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the #SupremeCourt's opinion on the #Counterman V Colorado case. Part 1

@GottaLaff Lisa Graves on the #SupremeCourt's opinion on the #Counterman V Colorado case. Part 1

@GottaLaff
I clipped Lisa Graves discussing the #SupremeCourt ruling #COUNTERMAN v. COLORADO with @nicolesandler Lisa on the case, "it really is a jaw dropping decision and it's very disappointing."
https://youtu.be/yOvMWD71fYc

@GottaLaff
I clipped Lisa Graves discussing the #SupremeCourt ruling #COUNTERMAN v. COLORADO with @nicolesandler Lisa on the case, "it really is a jaw dropping decision and it's very disappointing."
https://youtu.be/yOvMWD71fYc

@GottaLaff
I clipped Lisa Graves discussing the #SupremeCourt ruling #COUNTERMAN v. COLORADO with @nicolesandler Lisa on the case, "it really is a jaw dropping decision and it's very disappointing."
https://youtu.be/yOvMWD71fYc

@GottaLaff
I clipped Lisa Graves discussing the #SupremeCourt ruling #COUNTERMAN v. COLORADO with @nicolesandler Lisa on the case, "it really is a jaw dropping decision and it's very disappointing."
https://youtu.be/yOvMWD71fYc

@GottaLaff
I clipped Lisa Graves discussing the #SupremeCourt ruling #COUNTERMAN v. COLORADO with @nicolesandler Lisa on the case, "it really is a jaw dropping decision and it's very disappointing."
https://youtu.be/yOvMWD71fYc

Any experts on #Colorado procedural #penal #law here?

Can the State in #Counterman introduce new #evidence when the case goes back to the #trial #court now that #SCOTUS has spoken?

Or will the court only look at evidence introduced at the original trial?

#stalking #threats #cyberstalking

Any experts on #Colorado procedural #penal #law here?

Can the State in #Counterman introduce new #evidence when the case goes back to the #trial #court now that #SCOTUS has spoken?

Or will the court only look at evidence introduced at the original trial?

#stalking #threats #cyberstalking

Any experts on #Colorado procedural #penal #law here?

Can the State in #Counterman introduce new #evidence when the case goes back to the #trial #court now that #SCOTUS has spoken?

Or will the court only look at evidence introduced at the original trial?

#stalking #threats #cyberstalking

Any experts on #Colorado procedural #penal #law here?

Can the State in #Counterman introduce new #evidence when the case goes back to the #trial #court now that #SCOTUS has spoken?

Or will the court only look at evidence introduced at the original trial?

#stalking #threats #cyberstalking

Any experts on #Colorado procedural #penal #law here?

Can the State in #Counterman introduce new #evidence when the case goes back to the #trial #court now that #SCOTUS has spoken?

Or will the court only look at evidence introduced at the original trial?

#stalking #threats #cyberstalking

The Court decided on recklessness.

What exactly does recklessness entail? According to #Counterman, "in the threats context, it means the speaker is aware that others could regard his statements as threatening violence and delivers them anyway."

Kagan notes: "reckless defendants have done more than make a bad mistake. They have consciously accpeted a substantial risk of inflicting serious harm."

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #TrueThreat #speech #FreeSpeech #law #lawFedi #lawFed #FediLaw

The Court decided on recklessness.

What exactly does recklessness entail? According to #Counterman, "in the threats context, it means the speaker is aware that others could regard his statements as threatening violence and delivers them anyway."

Kagan notes: "reckless defendants have done more than make a bad mistake. They have consciously accpeted a substantial risk of inflicting serious harm."

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #TrueThreat #speech #FreeSpeech #law #lawFedi #lawFed #FediLaw

The Court decided on recklessness.

What exactly does recklessness entail? According to #Counterman, "in the threats context, it means the speaker is aware that others could regard his statements as threatening violence and delivers them anyway."

Kagan notes: "reckless defendants have done more than make a bad mistake. They have consciously accpeted a substantial risk of inflicting serious harm."

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #TrueThreat #speech #FreeSpeech #law #lawFedi #lawFed #FediLaw

The Court decided on recklessness.

What exactly does recklessness entail? According to #Counterman, "in the threats context, it means the speaker is aware that others could regard his statements as threatening violence and delivers them anyway."

Kagan notes: "reckless defendants have done more than make a bad mistake. They have consciously accpeted a substantial risk of inflicting serious harm."

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #TrueThreat #speech #FreeSpeech #law #lawFedi #lawFed #FediLaw

The Court decided on recklessness.

What exactly does recklessness entail? According to #Counterman, "in the threats context, it means the speaker is aware that others could regard his statements as threatening violence and delivers them anyway."

Kagan notes: "reckless defendants have done more than make a bad mistake. They have consciously accpeted a substantial risk of inflicting serious harm."

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #TrueThreat #speech #FreeSpeech #law #lawFedi #lawFed #FediLaw

On the other, too high a standard of subjective intent for a true threat unprotected by the Free Speech Clause would allow speakers to terrify their targets and claim lack of sufficent proof that they intended or knew that speech was threatening.

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

On the other, too high a standard of subjective intent for a true threat unprotected by the Free Speech Clause would allow speakers to terrify their targets and claim lack of sufficent proof that they intended or knew that speech was threatening.

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

On the other, too high a standard of subjective intent for a true threat unprotected by the Free Speech Clause would allow speakers to terrify their targets and claim lack of sufficent proof that they intended or knew that speech was threatening.

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

On the other, too high a standard of subjective intent for a true threat unprotected by the Free Speech Clause would allow speakers to terrify their targets and claim lack of sufficent proof that they intended or knew that speech was threatening.

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

On the other, too high a standard of subjective intent for a true threat unprotected by the Free Speech Clause would allow speakers to terrify their targets and claim lack of sufficent proof that they intended or knew that speech was threatening.

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

In #Counterman, #SupremeCourt had to balance the risk of chilling useful speech against the risk of letting people terrify & intimidate others w/o consequences

On the one hand, the lack of a subjective requirement for a true threat might chill speech that was rhetorical or joking or art bc speakers could not be sure what a court would conclude about reasonableness and stay silent

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

In #Counterman, #SupremeCourt had to balance the risk of chilling useful speech against the risk of letting people terrify & intimidate others w/o consequences

On the one hand, the lack of a subjective requirement for a true threat might chill speech that was rhetorical or joking or art bc speakers could not be sure what a court would conclude about reasonableness and stay silent

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

In #Counterman, #SupremeCourt had to balance the risk of chilling useful speech against the risk of letting people terrify & intimidate others w/o consequences

On the one hand, the lack of a subjective requirement for a true threat might chill speech that was rhetorical or joking or art bc speakers could not be sure what a court would conclude about reasonableness and stay silent

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

In #Counterman, #SupremeCourt had to balance the risk of chilling useful speech against the risk of letting people terrify & intimidate others w/o consequences

On the one hand, the lack of a subjective requirement for a true threat might chill speech that was rhetorical or joking or art bc speakers could not be sure what a court would conclude about reasonableness and stay silent

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

In #Counterman, #SupremeCourt had to balance the risk of chilling useful speech against the risk of letting people terrify & intimidate others w/o consequences

On the one hand, the lack of a subjective requirement for a true threat might chill speech that was rhetorical or joking or art bc speakers could not be sure what a court would conclude about reasonableness and stay silent

#SCOTUS #SupremeCourt #FreeSpeech #Speech #FirstAmendment #TrueThreat #Counterman #law #FediLaw #LawFedi

A true threat is speech that threatens a specific person and that a reasonable person would deem intimidating. This is not controversial.

What is uncertain is what state of mind (mens rea) the speaker must have

Must the speaker have the specific intent to frighten?

Must he know that his words will frighten?

Is it enough that he is recklessly indifferent to the frightening effect?

Or are none of these required?

That is the question that #Counterman might answer

#law #lawFedi #Fedilaw

A true threat is speech that threatens a specific person and that a reasonable person would deem intimidating. This is not controversial.

What is uncertain is what state of mind (mens rea) the speaker must have

Must the speaker have the specific intent to frighten?

Must he know that his words will frighten?

Is it enough that he is recklessly indifferent to the frightening effect?

Or are none of these required?

That is the question that #Counterman might answer

#law #lawFedi #Fedilaw

A true threat is speech that threatens a specific person and that a reasonable person would deem intimidating. This is not controversial.

What is uncertain is what state of mind (mens rea) the speaker must have

Must the speaker have the specific intent to frighten?

Must he know that his words will frighten?

Is it enough that he is recklessly indifferent to the frightening effect?

Or are none of these required?

That is the question that #Counterman might answer

#law #lawFedi #Fedilaw

A true threat is speech that threatens a specific person and that a reasonable person would deem intimidating. This is not controversial.

What is uncertain is what state of mind (mens rea) the speaker must have

Must the speaker have the specific intent to frighten?

Must he know that his words will frighten?

Is it enough that he is recklessly indifferent to the frightening effect?

Or are none of these required?

That is the question that #Counterman might answer

#law #lawFedi #Fedilaw

A true threat is speech that threatens a specific person and that a reasonable person would deem intimidating. This is not controversial.

What is uncertain is what state of mind (mens rea) the speaker must have

Must the speaker have the specific intent to frighten?

Must he know that his words will frighten?

Is it enough that he is recklessly indifferent to the frightening effect?

Or are none of these required?

That is the question that #Counterman might answer

#law #lawFedi #Fedilaw

Prof Franks cont. 5: "And one of the many, many self-defeating things about this way of looking at the world or choosing not to see the world is to think that it's not going to come for you too at some point, right? That we're making this world a dangerous place for everyone. Everyone's less safe. .."
http://slateprivate.supportingcast.fm/content/eyJ0IjoicCIsImMiOiIzMDMiLCJ1IjoiMTAyNTQ3OCIsImQiOiIxNTg1MDY4MzgzIiwiayI6ODV9fGMwYjk3MTQ5NzgxNzgwZWM0YTRmYThlM2VkZWE3ZDc2MmM4MTJjZTUyZWJmZjk3NTI0YTFmMGM0NTI1NWJmZjU.rss #slateplus link (no ads)
@Dahlialith #scotus #counterman #SupremeCourt #amicus #slate

Prof Franks cont. 5: "And one of the many, many self-defeating things about this way of looking at the world or choosing not to see the world is to think that it's not going to come for you too at some point, right? That we're making this world a dangerous place for everyone. Everyone's less safe. .."
http://slateprivate.supportingcast.fm/content/eyJ0IjoicCIsImMiOiIzMDMiLCJ1IjoiMTAyNTQ3OCIsImQiOiIxNTg1MDY4MzgzIiwiayI6ODV9fGMwYjk3MTQ5NzgxNzgwZWM0YTRmYThlM2VkZWE3ZDc2MmM4MTJjZTUyZWJmZjk3NTI0YTFmMGM0NTI1NWJmZjU.rss #slateplus link (no ads)
@Dahlialith #scotus #counterman #SupremeCourt #amicus #slate

Prof Franks cont. 5: "And one of the many, many self-defeating things about this way of looking at the world or choosing not to see the world is to think that it's not going to come for you too at some point, right? That we're making this world a dangerous place for everyone. Everyone's less safe. .."
http://slateprivate.supportingcast.fm/content/eyJ0IjoicCIsImMiOiIzMDMiLCJ1IjoiMTAyNTQ3OCIsImQiOiIxNTg1MDY4MzgzIiwiayI6ODV9fGMwYjk3MTQ5NzgxNzgwZWM0YTRmYThlM2VkZWE3ZDc2MmM4MTJjZTUyZWJmZjk3NTI0YTFmMGM0NTI1NWJmZjU.rss #slateplus link (no ads)
@Dahlialith #scotus #counterman #SupremeCourt #amicus #slate

Prof Franks cont. 5: "And one of the many, many self-defeating things about this way of looking at the world or choosing not to see the world is to think that it's not going to come for you too at some point, right? That we're making this world a dangerous place for everyone. Everyone's less safe. .."
http://slateprivate.supportingcast.fm/content/eyJ0IjoicCIsImMiOiIzMDMiLCJ1IjoiMTAyNTQ3OCIsImQiOiIxNTg1MDY4MzgzIiwiayI6ODV9fGMwYjk3MTQ5NzgxNzgwZWM0YTRmYThlM2VkZWE3ZDc2MmM4MTJjZTUyZWJmZjk3NTI0YTFmMGM0NTI1NWJmZjU.rss #slateplus link (no ads)
@Dahlialith #scotus #counterman #SupremeCourt #amicus #slate

Prof Franks cont. 5: "And one of the many, many self-defeating things about this way of looking at the world or choosing not to see the world is to think that it's not going to come for you too at some point, right? That we're making this world a dangerous place for everyone. Everyone's less safe. .."
http://slateprivate.supportingcast.fm/content/eyJ0IjoicCIsImMiOiIzMDMiLCJ1IjoiMTAyNTQ3OCIsImQiOiIxNTg1MDY4MzgzIiwiayI6ODV9fGMwYjk3MTQ5NzgxNzgwZWM0YTRmYThlM2VkZWE3ZDc2MmM4MTJjZTUyZWJmZjk3NTI0YTFmMGM0NTI1NWJmZjU.rss #slateplus link (no ads)
@Dahlialith #scotus #counterman #SupremeCourt #amicus #slate