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  1. @Canageek Part of the issue is when people say , it's not particularly descriptive. They could be talking about , or , , or even some other variants, like or , none of which have to really be in agreement with each other, for something to exist within the larger project, or ship them.

  2. @machenni @MsDropbear42 No, tik is specific at the moment, and I'm considering it for . The new installer for Leap and Tumbleweed is and is also being evaluated as the installer for Kalpa